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| aduskett | No way, dnf5 in master-next ?! | 09:59 |
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| aduskett | I will wait to see if it makes it into master before updating it to 5.4.8.0 | 10:03 |
| paulbarker | aduskett: I think it's still waiting for one of us to have a good stare at the patches | 10:03 |
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| aduskett | paulbarker: just pretend the patch works 100% and I did it perfectly. | 10:09 |
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| aduskett | problem solved! | 10:09 |
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| rburton | aduskett: my test of 'is a rootfs built with dnf3 and dnf5 identical' passed. you can likely remove EXTRANATIVEPATH += "python3-native" from rootfs_rpm.bbclass if you want to send a quick followup, and i think dnf was the last user of libcomps so a removal patch of that too? | 12:26 |
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| rburton | If anyone wants a Ideal First Contribution then https://bugzilla.yoctoproject.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16495 links to an upstream patch we can apply to our glib recipe to fix a test failure | 12:43 |
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| aduskett | rburton: sure. Want me to update the dnf5 package to 5.4.8.0 as well? | 13:20 |
| rburton | aduskett: sure. feel free to send those as bonus patches on top of what you have so we can merge on monday what was tested so far | 13:20 |
| aduskett | rburton: ok. I'll send a V14 in an hour or so | 13:20 |
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| walter | Hello, what's the difference between `linux-yocto_%.bbappend` and `linux-yocto%.bbappend`? The latter has a missing `_` before `%` and is from `meta-arm`, is that a mistake or is it meant to be applied to all `linux-yocto.*` recipes like: -dev, -rt and -tiny? | 13:27 |
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| walter | Yeah, sorry for the noise. I just found 360a278c449775bbee3ca4c1f3d2ac3ef7a885e0, don't know how I've missed it when I looked in the log for that file. | 13:29 |
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| aduskett | rburton: v14 is up | 14:23 |
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| aduskett | I added the removal of EXTRANATIVEPATH += "python3-native" from rootfs_rpm.bbclass to the dnf 5.4.7.0 patch and then added the removal of libcomps and a bump to 5.4.8.0 as separate patches | 14:23 |
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| jmd | When I run bitbake in my project, I'm often surprised at the package which get built. Is there an easy way to show a dependency tree? | 16:12 |
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| rburton | bitbake -g [target] | 16:14 |
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| rburton | oe-depends-dot can parse it for simple "why is <foo> in the tree" expressions to save you having to render and look at a graphviz tree with hundreds of nodes | 16:15 |
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| jmd | Hmm: I get just "Because:" with nothing afterwards | 16:19 |
| rburton | the dot is human-readable, just about, so you can grep it | 16:20 |
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| rburton | the usual reason is because of ptest dependencies. a test suite might need gcc or make on the target, for example | 16:21 |
| rburton | easily solved if you don't care by disabling ptest | 16:21 |
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| jmd | What the hell are "Setscene tasks" ? | 16:39 |
| fray | https://docs.yoctoproject.org/overview-manual/concepts.html#setscene-tasks-and-shared-state | 16:40 |
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| Saur | jmd: They are the tasks that save you from having to rebuild everything all the time. ;) | 16:45 |
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| jmd | I see. | 16:49 |
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| fray | they 'set' the 'scene' by extracting cached versions of previous tasks so they don't need to repeated in future builds. | 16:49 |
| jmd | If yocto was more like nix/guix then that would come free. | 16:50 |
| fray | (cached version are the sstate - shared state files) | 16:50 |
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| jmd | I wish the % complete indicaation would represent time instead of whatever it does. | 17:25 |
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| rburton | Currently 6 running tasks (1629 of 2400) 67% |######################################################## | Elapsed Time: 0:01:42 | 17:26 |
| rburton | mine shows time | 17:26 |
| rburton | 0: gcc-runtime-16.2.0-r0 do_compile - 8s (pid 3374904) | 17:26 |
| rburton | per-task too | 17:26 |
| rburton | unless you asking for the task to know how long it will take in advance, which obviously isn't possile | 17:27 |
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| Saur | rburton: Somwhow I think jmd wants it to show how many percent has passed of the expected time, rather than expected jobs... | 17:27 |
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| jmd | It shows time, but that 67% I think is merely 1629/2400 - it's not 67% of the time to complete. | 17:28 |
| Saur | Which obviously is way harder to compute... | 17:28 |
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| rburton | jmd: also "impossible to know" | 17:28 |
| rburton | how would bitbake know that task 1630 takes 10 minutes instead of 1 second? | 17:28 |
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| jmd | I thought AI could do anything. | 17:29 |
| rburton | lol | 17:29 |
| * rburton finds a bridge to sell | 17:29 | |
| rburton | time to cook a steak, good weekend all | 17:30 |
| Saur | Technically, it could keep track of how long that task has taken in the past and base an approximation on that, but... | 17:30 |
| jmd | bitbake -c build crystal-ball | 17:30 |
| rburton | Saur: yesterday my shared builder was "somewhat busy" and gcc took almost 2 hours to build | 17:30 |
| rburton | something about a colleague doing a full debian archive rebuild on it :) | 17:30 |
| Saur | I said approximation... ;) | 17:31 |
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| jmd | Yeah. I'm sure there would be heuristics to estimate the time to complete. | 17:31 |
| rburton | patches welcome | 17:32 |
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| jmd | and I think it's rather invariant that more dependent tasks take longer than the less dependent ones. | 17:36 |
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| RP | and this is why I hate the progress bars :/ | 19:05 |
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| jmd | How can I remove packagegroup-base-alpha from my layer? | 20:03 |
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| walter | What's -alpha? There doesn't seem to be such a package group in the main OE/YP repos. Did you mean -alsa? | 21:52 |
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| walter | Now this is strange. The packagegroup-base.bb recipe looks into `MACHINE_FEATURES` for features when adding to `PACKAGES`, and into `COMBINED_FEATURES` when adding to `RDEPENDS`. I wonder why. | 21:57 |
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