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jmd | I'm getting this warning: "NOTE: Multiple providers are available for wayland-protocols-native (wayland-protocols-native, wayland-protocols-mainline-native)" What does it mean and how do I resolve it? | 06:19 |
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mckoan | jmd: hard to answer without a context. However that is caused by a misconfiguration for multiple providers for the same feature. You have to set PREFERRED_PROVIDER_wayland-protocols-native = "..." one of them | 06:54 |
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jmd | mckoan: And where exactly do I set that? | 07:11 |
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mckoan | jmd: as a quick hack you can set it in local.conf. But the question is why | 07:47 |
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jmd | Right. The other question is: which one should I prefer? | 07:52 |
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rburton | jmd: wayland-protocols-mainline isn't part of the core layer, so its something you or your BSP added. so the choice is yours to make, not ours. | 07:58 |
rburton | i'm guessing -mainline is "from git" so i'd only use that if you have a very good reason to | 07:58 |
jmd | I have to trust our BSP so if it comes from there, then that's what I'll use. | 08:00 |
rburton | i'd find out if its "you must use this piece of bleeding edge software" or "we provide this for your convenience" | 08:01 |
rburton | as releases are better than "random git snapshots" | 08:02 |
jmd | Okay, I will try to look into it. Thanks. | 08:05 |
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walter | I figured out why I was getting that strange postinst scriptlet error, looks like depmod was segfaulting because of a butchered dts. | 09:03 |
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walter | Is there a way to not do a full kernel rebuild when changing a DTS? It takes ages (~15m) to wait for the kernel to recompile. | 09:14 |
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Jones42 | Has someone already tried the new improve_kernel_cve_report.py on scarthgap? I have the feeling it requires more than just cherry-picking a few commits | 09:22 |
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Jones42 | walter: you could use overlays | 09:23 |
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walter | will do that, but I think that at first I need to prepare a basic DTS for the board, then I'll try overlays | 09:33 |
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ukleinek | zeddii: probably depends on what you consider "not much". My notes indicate that on Aug 20 linux-yocto was still at 6.6.101 in the yocto-6.6 branch and your update to 6.6.102 (released on Aug 15) was done on Aug 21 (commit b5db76e52474d0ee7dbbb897cf02a2665f1a14fd). I'd like to tell my customer that I'm able to be quicker than 5 days to roll out a stable update. | 09:45 |
ukleinek | (no offence intended!) | 09:48 |
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LetoThe2nd | kanavin_: getting started with bitbake-setup, I get blocked at this: mender@ix:~/bitbake-builds/yocto-master-nested-configs-qemux86-64-poky/build$ bitbake core-image-minimal | 10:23 |
LetoThe2nd | ERROR: "Unable to use hash equivalence server at 'wss://hashserv.yoctoproject.org/ws' due to missing or incorrect python module: | 10:23 |
LetoThe2nd | ModuleNotFoundError("No module named 'websockets'") | 10:23 |
LetoThe2nd | Please install the needed module on the build host, or use an environment containing it (e.g a pip venv or OpenEmbedded's buildtools tarball). | 10:23 |
LetoThe2nd | You can also remove the BB_HASHSERVE_UPSTREAM setting, but this may result in significantly longer build times as bitbake will be unable to reuse prebuilt sstate artefacts. | 10:23 |
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kanavin_ | LetoThe2nd, use 'bitbake-setup install-buildtools' to install the buildtools | 10:32 |
kanavin_ | we'll adjust the bitbake error to include that tip, once bitbake-setup lands, but it can't be done yet :) | 10:32 |
LetoThe2nd | kanavin_: tried that initially too, and that fell over because I instinctively pointed it to ../build. without that, seems to pass. but the error persists. | 10:35 |
kanavin_ | LetoThe2nd, you need to follow the instructions after installing to enter the shell environment that includes the buildtools in PATH | 10:36 |
kanavin_ | . /some/path/to/buildtools/script, it should be printed when installing | 10:36 |
kanavin_ | or just install python websockets package in your host distro | 10:37 |
LetoThe2nd | kanavin_: ok. obvious question here is, why that is problematic as this particular machine is already building a *LOT* of YOEP stuff. | 10:38 |
kanavin_ | LetoThe2nd, it probably isn't using a hash equivalence server | 10:38 |
kanavin_ | if you want faster builds via pre-build sstate from yocto mirrors, you need to enable the server too, and that needs websockets | 10:39 |
jmd | bitbake is insisting that I put my auxilliary files in a subdirectory. However, when I do that, the do_install function cannot find them, even if I provide the complete path. How is one supposed to resolve this? | 10:41 |
kanavin_ | jmd, you need to list them in SRC_URI, then they'll be in UNPACKDIR | 10:41 |
LetoThe2nd | kanavin_: not doubting that, but having that as a hard default in the current state feels questionable to me (unless I'm the only one who doesn't have python-websockets installed on their dev box by default) | 10:42 |
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kanavin_ | LetoThe2nd, you need to ask Joshua and/or Michael if yocto servers can provide hash equivalance over some other transport than websockets | 10:42 |
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jmd | kanavin_: ${UNPACKDIR} resolves to an empty string. | 10:43 |
LetoThe2nd | plus, the build doesn't even pass and falls over with a lot of scary messages like | 10:43 |
LetoThe2nd | ERROR: ncurses-native-6.5-r0 do_create_spdx_setscene: Fetcher failure: Unable to find file | 10:43 |
LetoThe2nd | file://universal/a8/7c/sstate:ncurses-native:x86_64-linux:6.5:r0:x86_64:14:a87c96a503f6a3f8061fe084b898aad38cb7602ecfc486f60760fd96deb3e890_create_spdx.tar.zst.siginfo;downloadfilename=universal/a8/7c/sstate:ncurses-native:x86_64-linux:6.5:r0:x86_64:14:a87c96a503f6a3f8061fe084b898aad38cb7602ecfc486f60760fd96deb3e890_create_spdx.tar.zst.siginfo anywhere to download to | 10:43 |
LetoThe2nd | /home/mender/bitbake-builds/yocto-master-nested-configs-qemux86-64-poky/build/sstate-cache/universal/a8/7c/sstate:ncurses-native:x86_64-linux:6.5:r0:x86_64:14:a87c96a503f6a3f8061fe084b898aad38cb7602ecfc486f60760fd96deb3e890_create_spdx.tar.zst.siginfo. The paths that were searched were: | 10:43 |
LetoThe2nd | /home/mender/bitbake-builds/yocto-master-nested-configs-qemux86-64-poky/build/sstate-cache | 10:43 |
kanavin_ | jmd, you need to run bitbake -e and show how UNPACKDIR ends up empty | 10:45 |
kanavin_ | LetoThe2nd, you need to provide steps to reproduce. | 10:46 |
LetoThe2nd | kanavin_: literally https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MbMtEuTPV_0 | 10:46 |
LetoThe2nd | kanavin_: typing along with out. | 10:46 |
LetoThe2nd | *you. | 10:46 |
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jmd | That produces an enormous python trace. My python skills are not that good! | 10:48 |
jmd | Is UNPACKDIR the same as S ? | 10:50 |
rburton | unpackdir is where everything is unpacked. S is the directory under that which is the main source location. eg a source tarball is unpacked into unpackdir and so S is UNPACKDIR/foo-1.2/ | 10:50 |
kanavin_ | LetoThe2nd, you can't follow that because the choices in bitbake-master have changed since, e.g. there's poky-master and oe-nodistro | 10:51 |
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kanavin_ | so again, please, where have you cloned bitbake from, and what choices you made? | 10:52 |
kanavin_ | *bitbake master-next | 10:52 |
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LetoThe2nd | kanavin_: again, I literally cloned bitbake master-next as in that video. for the choices, I picked the same numbers as you gave there. Just trying to understand what users will try to do and follow, and understand what will possibly happen. Ok, wiped config and builds directory, let me start over again. | 10:55 |
kanavin_ | the choices are not the same as in the video though. | 10:55 |
kanavin_ | I just cloned bitbake master-next, and the choices now are 0. poky-master, 1. oe-nodistro | 10:56 |
kanavin_ | so I wonder why you still have this nested-configs thing | 10:56 |
LetoThe2nd | kanavin_: I know. Thats why I said, I'm trying to understand what a random user (who cannot just poke you here and ask) might do. So which of the choices should be used now? | 10:56 |
LetoThe2nd | also seeing poky-master and oe-nodistro now. | 10:57 |
jmd | ${S}/../ seems to work .... | 10:57 |
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kanavin_ | jmd, that's just ${UNPACKDIR} | 10:57 |
jmd | So you said, but ${UNPACKDIR} is "" whereas ${S} is a largeish string. | 10:58 |
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kanavin_ | jmd, which yocto version you're on? you might be on something old where unpackdir doesn't yet exist, in which case you need to use ${WORKDIR} | 10:59 |
kanavin_ | LetoThe2nd, these are RP's experimental configurations added after the talk. you can probably try poky-master | 11:00 |
kanavin_ | but I need to follow *exactly* what you do in order to see your problems. You can't just tell me you are following the video, because you are using RP's configurations, not the ones in the video. | 11:01 |
LetoThe2nd | kanavin_: ok, chose "bitbake-setup init --non-interactive poky-master poky distro/poky machine/qemuarm64" equivalent now. | 11:01 |
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kanavin_ | LetoThe2nd, ok, it's cloning bitbake and oe-core now | 11:02 |
jmd | kanavin_: I'm on scarthgap | 11:02 |
kanavin_ | jmd, yes, that predates unpackdir support | 11:03 |
jmd | I thought is was supposed to be fairly recent. | 11:04 |
kanavin_ | ${S}/.. is perhaps okay | 11:04 |
kanavin_ | LetoThe2nd, it finished, now I sourced the environment (as suggested in the last line of 'init' output) and run bitbake m4-native (to make sstate mirror check faster), and there's no error | 11:05 |
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jmd | If I have a SYSTEMD_SERVICE:${PN} line, do I have to explicitly install the service file myself, or should that be taken care of? | 11:07 |
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Jones42 | jmd: https://docs.yoctoproject.org/singleindex.html#ref-classes-systemd | 11:11 |
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Jones42 | (also https://git.openembedded.org/openembedded-core/tree/meta/classes-recipe/systemd.bbclass ) | 11:14 |
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LetoThe2nd | kanavin_: chose configuration as mentioned above. installed build tools, sourced it, bitbake m4-native. resulting error log at https://hastebin.com/share/ijiyuvecif.bash | 11:16 |
kanavin_ | LetoThe2nd, can you show /home/mender/bitbake-builds/poky-master-poky-distro_poky-machine_qemuarm64/build/tmp/work/x86_64-linux/gettext-minimal-native/0.26/temp/log.do_fetch.587773 ? | 11:17 |
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kanavin_ | wget execution is failing, and that log would show why | 11:18 |
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LetoThe2nd | kanavin_: https://hastebin.com/share/juqohutipe.bash | 11:20 |
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kanavin_ | LetoThe2nd, wget is unable to connect to anything | 11:22 |
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kanavin_ | Resolving mirrors.kernel.org (mirrors.kernel.org)... 139.178.88.99, 2604:1380:45e3:2400::1 | 11:28 |
kanavin_ | Connecting to mirrors.kernel.org (mirrors.kernel.org)|139.178.88.99|:443... failed: No route to host. | 11:28 |
kanavin_ | Connecting to mirrors.kernel.org (mirrors.kernel.org)|2604:1380:45e3:2400::1|:443... failed: Network is unreachable. | 11:28 |
kanavin_ | -2025-09-19 11:11:23-- http://downloads.yoctoproject.org/mirror/sources/gettext-0.26.tar.gz | 11:28 |
kanavin_ | Resolving downloads.yoctoproject.org (downloads.yoctoproject.org)... 37.27.135.249, 2a01:4f9:3070:3985::2 | 11:28 |
kanavin_ | Connecting to downloads.yoctoproject.org (downloads.yoctoproject.org)|37.27.135.249|:80... failed: No route to host. | 11:28 |
kanavin_ | Connecting to downloads.yoctoproject.org (downloads.yoctoproject.org)|2a01:4f9:3070:3985::2|:80... failed: Network is unreachable. | 11:28 |
kanavin_ | and so on | 11:28 |
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LetoThe2nd | kanavin_: its using wget from the build tools, and manually invoking works fine | 11:28 |
LetoThe2nd | mender@ix:~/bitbake-builds/poky-master-poky-distro_poky-machine_qemuarm64/build$ which wget | 11:28 |
LetoThe2nd | /home/mender/bitbake-builds/poky-master-poky-distro_poky-machine_qemuarm64/buildtools/sysroots/x86_64-pokysdk-linux/usr/bin/wget | 11:28 |
LetoThe2nd | mender@ix:~/bitbake-builds/poky-master-poky-distro_poky-machine_qemuarm64/build$ wget https://ftpmirror.gnu.org/gnu/gettext/gettext-0.26.tar.gz | 11:28 |
kanavin_ | do you have a strange permissions issue on the machine where this copy of wget is denied network access? | 11:28 |
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LetoThe2nd | kanavin_: its a very standard ubuntu 22.04. and buildtools-wget seems to work when invoked manually, yet not from within bitbake. thats the current state of observations. | 11:29 |
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rburton | looks like its running inside a task context without networking | 11:30 |
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kanavin_ | I'm out of ideas at the moment though. Other than try to narrow down the problem e.g. try another machine, try cloning poky master in the standard way and see if that works, and then install buildtools and see if that stops working. | 11:33 |
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MarcWeDLM | i like to modify a recipe with devtool but if i do a devtool modify imx-kernel. the current patches are not applied ( patches listed in the yocto layers | 13:20 |
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jjrh | What is the process for adding a variable for a recipe? I'm trying to setup a flag to change INITSCRIPT_PARAMS to disable a startup service. I can set this variable successfully in local.conf but it doesn't appear to be displayed when setting it inside the image (i'd like to have a image I can build with this flag set) | 13:26 |
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jjrh | Am I approaching this wrong? | 13:27 |
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rburton | you can't set a variable inside an image (a recipe) that another recipe can see | 13:28 |
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jjrh | Oh - so how do things like EXTRA_USERS_PARAMS work? Don't they get fed into another recipe? | 13:33 |
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jjrh | Oh, that stuff would be living in the inhertited images | 13:34 |
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rburton | the model is that normal recipes generate packages, and then image recipes simply take those packages and build an image from them. so if you build four images, you don't build glibc four times. | 13:37 |
rburton | also if you have two machines which are very similar, the bulk of the packages are shared | 13:38 |
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rburton | (this is why most packages are tune-specific not machine-specific) | 13:38 |
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jjrh | Yep makes sense. So I guess for my specific case I need to figure out how to disable the startup service inside my image? | 13:44 |
rburton | yeah, it can just nuke the init symlinks in a rootfs postprocess hook | 13:45 |
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jjrh | Didn't know about ROOTFS_PREPROCESS_COMMAND - I'll give that a go rburton thanks! | 13:49 |
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walter | What do you mean by "tune-specific"? Are you talking about `images/xyz-image.bb` files? | 13:54 |
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rburton | no. eg i've a qemuarm64 build here, but 90% of the packages are actually built in the cortexa57 namespace. only a few (kernel, firmware, machine configuration) are built _for_ qemuarm64. | 13:55 |
rburton | so if i switch to qemuarm64-secureboot, i only rebuild the firmware and kernel but the bulk of the packages are shared as they have the same tune | 13:56 |
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walter | oh, ok. thanks | 13:59 |
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LetoThe2nd | rburton: kanavin_: mostly AFK until tonight now - but managed to just grab a fresh poky master with cold DL_DIR and cold SSTATE_CACHE, kicked off, all fetches I could see in the first 2 or 3 minutes are passing. | 14:28 |
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kanavin_ | LetoThe2nd, what if you install buildtolls in there, using scripts/install-buildtools? | 14:37 |
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LetoThe2nd | kanavin_: seems to also work then. | 14:56 |
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jmd | I thought SYSTEMD_SERVICE:${PN} was supposed to install unit for me. But it would seem not. I have to explictly do that in the do_install rule. So wahat is SYSTEMD_SERVICE for? what good is it? | 16:32 |
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khem | jmd:is the recipe also inheriting sytemd class or not ? | 17:00 |
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jmd | khem: Not. | 17:07 |
khem | thats your problem then | 17:07 |
khem | https://docs.yoctoproject.org/ref-manual/classes.html#systemd | 17:08 |
jmd | At least it doesn't inherit it directly. | 17:08 |
jmd | Yeah I read that earlier today. | 17:08 |
ukleinek | ..ooOO(is the recipe also inheriting systemd class or not?) | 17:08 |
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ukleinek | :-D | 17:09 |
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jmd | So if I understand the inference correctly, any recipe which uses SYSTEMD_SERVICE must also inherit systemd.class ? | 17:13 |
khem | right | 17:13 |
* jmd wonders why the once does not then automatically imply the other. | 17:14 | |
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khem | classes and variables are different semantics, one way it does work, when class is inherited it will have a default value for SYSTEMD_SERVICE | 17:17 |
khem | It derives it from SYSTEMD_PACKAGES which is set to ${PN} as fallback in class, if recipe does not alter it | 17:18 |
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khem | AFAIR it will also throw errors if service file does not exist | 17:18 |
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jmd | Hmm. Even with "inherit systemd" I have to explicitly install the service. | 17:28 |
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khem | yes, systemd class doc says it too, installing into staging area ( do_install ) has to put it in right place where it should appear on target, component build systems do that automatically mostly these days, however if they do not then you have to | 17:38 |
khem | so have systemd in DISTRO_FEATURES, inherit systemd and apply any tweaks needed by staging and packaging | 17:39 |
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jmd | So it would seem that "inherit systemd" and SYSTEMD_SERVICE are both quite useless. | 17:43 |
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khem | they work as described | 17:46 |
jmd | But according to the description you just quoted, they don't do anything (and that is consistent with my experiments). | 17:47 |
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khem | rburton: cmake build time rpaths patch is problematic with clang, I think we need to think a bit differently, perhaps encode relative rpaths using ORIGIN | 17:48 |
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khem | jmd: installation into staging area is one part of whole process when cross compiling, the abstractions these provide are used in several steps | 17:52 |
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jmd | So do I have to do it myself? Or will systemd.class do it for me? | 17:53 |
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khem | they wont do the staging installs for you. | 17:57 |
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Saur | jmd: Installing the systemd unit file is your responsibility (either by letting meson/cmake/whatever install it, or doing it from the recipe). What the systemd bbclass does is that it makes sure the unit is enabled and started when the package is installed (in buildtime or runtime). | 17:58 |
jmd | Saur: okay. | 17:59 |
Saur | This relies on there being an [install] section in the unit file. | 17:59 |
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jmd | In other words, I have to install it in /usr/lib/systemd, but the systemd class will put the link in /etc/systemd ? | 18:01 |
Saur | Exactly | 18:01 |
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jmd | How does it know in what subdirectory to put it? | 18:03 |
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jmd | I guess it must inspect the WantedBy field | 18:03 |
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rburton | khem: i'm still struggling to see how removing the _build path_ is bad, because we actively don't want those in the result binaries | 18:10 |
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rburton | all cmake does is pad the rpath and then change it on install | 18:29 |
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jmd` | Why is it that changing something as simple as the whitespace in FILES:${PN} can drastically change the outcome of bitbake? | 18:44 |
Saur | jmd`: It shouldn't... | 18:45 |
jmd` | That was my thought too. Unfortunately it does. | 18:46 |
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khem | rburton: I think, its a good idea provided we capture all tools its building during build which its using during the build | 19:13 |
khem | now that we have libLLVM pulled out, we still might have some left linking with libclang | 19:13 |
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khem | since we are using it in place ORIGIN relative might work in scalable manner | 19:14 |
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jmd` | What steps need to be taken to get stuff from the source dir into WORKDIR ? | 19:15 |
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walter | How does one view `task-depends.dot` files? For a minimal image, I have a 2.1MB dot file, and `dot -Tpng` or `xdot` seem to take forever. I need to see why a package is included in order to remove it. | 21:40 |
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mischief | walter: you can try `bitbake -u taskexp ..` | 21:54 |
mischief | i'm sure i've asked this before but have forgotten.. is the procedure for contributing or requesting changes be backported documented anywhere? | 21:55 |
walter | mischief: thanks! | 21:57 |
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khem | mischief: backport the patch yourself, send it to ML after testing and prefix subject with branch its intended for, otherwise send a request to ML and hope someone will do it | 22:33 |
khem | simple cherry-picks stable maintainer might do if its requested but for complext backports less of a chance | 22:34 |
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jmd` | How can I undo the effects of bitbake foo.bb ? | 22:42 |
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