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zeddiinerdctl and it isn't even the big go application in meta-virt . I'm still staunchly not using the google infra modules, so I'll have to dig through more and see what is going on.02:31
zeddiitalking to myself I am.02:31
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throosGood morning! Question - is there a common pattern or mechanism to generate recipes before a image/recipe is generated via bitbake? Before parsing, as the generated recipes needs to be existing...08:50
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rburtonthroos: one approach is a stub recipe that writes more files in task so you can then re-bitbake.  eg the go/rust fetcher update logic will write .inc files that the recipes include.09:20
throosThanks, I saw that but that needs explicit called and if part of other recipes depends it will fail during parsing...09:24
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throosSo there is no hook or so in bitbake to run this generation before parsing I guess? Before it fails.09:34
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rburtonthere's no way to run code _before_ the parse, mainly because i'm not sure how you'd read that outside of parse. a pre-parse parse?09:37
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rburtonalso yocto tends to like reproducible things, so a task that writes a recipe that is then committed is better than a task that dynamically creates a recipe each build09:40
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throosAgree, just wanna check options. Ty!10:03
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RPthroos: we only parse once so you can't pre-parse things10:26
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jam16Hi,10:49
jam16Just came across the following cargo-c DEBUG build package_QA failure:10:49
jam16Steps:10:49
jam16DEBUG_BUILD = "1" in local.conf10:49
jam16bitbake cargo-c10:49
jam16ERROR: cargo-c-0.10.14+cargo-0.89.0-r0.wr2500 do_package_qa: QA Issue: File /usr/bin/.debug/cargo-capi in package cargo-c-dbg contains reference to TMPDIR [buildpaths]10:49
jam16ERROR: cargo-c-0.10.14+cargo-0.89.0-r0.wr2500 do_package_qa: QA Issue: File /usr/bin/.debug/cargo-cinstall in package cargo-c-dbg contains reference to TMPDIR [buildpaths]10:49
jam16ERROR: cargo-c-0.10.14+cargo-0.89.0-r0.wr2500 do_package_qa: QA Issue: File /usr/bin/.debug/cargo-cbuild in package cargo-c-dbg contains reference to TMPDIR [buildpaths]10:49
jam16ERROR: cargo-c-0.10.14+cargo-0.89.0-r0.wr2500 do_package_qa: QA Issue: File /usr/bin/.debug/cargo-ctest in package cargo-c-dbg contains reference to TMPDIR [buildpaths]10:49
jam16ERROR: cargo-c-0.10.14+cargo-0.89.0-r0.wr2500 do_package_qa: Fatal QA errors were found, failing task.10:49
jam16How to fix these errors so that the buildpath references are not included in the binaries?10:49
jam16Perhaps something like "--remap-path-prefix" should be used in cargo-c recipe or .bbclass to fix this?10:49
jam16I am not sure how to exactly use this.10:49
jam16Can someone assist me?10:49
jam16Thanks!10:49
rburtonjam16: if you don't _really_ need debug info of that magnitude that DEBUG_BUILD sets in cargo-c, i'd set it in the recipes that you need it for10:50
rburtonand we build with prefix mapping enabled, so this must be some new strings that appear in super-debug mode.10:51
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jam16rburton How do we strip them and fix the qa error in this case?10:52
rburtonin the general case: identify what the strings actually are, try and identify where they came from, stop that happening. could be from the debuginfo generation but as i said, we already pass prefix mapping flags. there's no one-size answer here, if you want it fixed you'll need to chase it down.10:54
rburtonyou know what file, so next step is what are the strings10:54
rburtoneasier solution: don't buld cargo-c with DEBUG_BUILD10:54
jam16How to identify the strings? Any tool like readelf or objdump to be used?10:55
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rburtonyes10:56
RPjam16: "strings" can also sometimes be useful10:57
jam16I didn't get that. Which cmd or options yields the strings with buildpaths?10:58
rburton'strings' is a good start10:58
RPjam16: there is a command called "strings"10:59
jam16Ohh, I see. Thanks for the info.10:59
jam16Any other pointers/suggestions that can help me debug the issue?11:00
rburtonfirst step is identifying what the string is then you just have to figure out where it came from11:00
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rburtonvery quickly you're not looking for tooling anymore, but just trying to understand what generated it in the first place.11:01
rburtongrepping the build tree for the same string might lead you to intermediate .o files so you can work back and figure out where it originated11:02
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jam16strings -d build/tmp/work/core2-32-wrs-linux/cargo-c/0.10.16+cargo-0.91.0/packages-split/cargo-c-dbg/usr/bin/.debug/cargo-ctest11:19
jam16gives only11:19
jam16"J}i&"11:19
jam16as the output of the command, other bins didn't yield anything.11:19
jam16Perhaps, should I use -a option? but that's too much of of info to compare.11:19
kanavinjam16, why do you put -d in there?11:20
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jam16Which is the correct option to use? (I am new to this)11:22
kanavinthe correct option is no option, just 'strings file'11:22
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LetoThe2ndpossibly stupid/ignorant me, but what's the actual use case of the genericarm64 target? does it serve as a compile+virtual platform? if so, what's the advantage over qemuarm64? and if it target real HW, which and what's the conditions? is it SystemReady?17:53
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khemLetoThe2nd:a real h/w kernel ( uki ) and systemdready is definitely on the cards18:33
khemtrchnically qemuarm64 could be made to use same bits18:33
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rburtonLetoThe2nd: real hardware, systemready IR at least.  verified to work out of the box on qemu, beagleplay and kv260. mcfrisk can possibly list more boards that they've booted it on to varying levels of success (which is mostly a matter of adding yet more kernel modules to the build)18:56
LetoThe2ndkhem: rburton: thx, thats a good enough explanation for me. there was a Mender-y context :)19:08
khemrburton: we have 4 machines booting same image of RDKB using this stuff19:08
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rburtonlinaro are doing systemready testing with the prebuilt images (thus their frustration that altcfg is old kernel but systemd, a funky mix)19:10
LetoThe2ndkhem: without context, my brain made that a Rapid Drinking Chaotic Bunch.19:11
LetoThe2ndChaotic.19:11
LetoThe2ndmeh. Autocorrect. "Khaotic"19:11
rburtonkhem: success!19:11
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* LetoThe2nd needs to cough up something for Embedded World CFP and no motivation.19:13
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khemrburton: yeah we have it even worse, so poky-altconfig sticking to older kernel is not even registered as pain :)19:16
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khemLetoThe2nd: yeah, we can get OSes to be systemReady compliant, its the SOCs who have to come together19:16
LetoThe2ndkhem: yup, its not he OSes that are a the standardization blockers here.19:17
khemall boards should come preinstalled with low level (UEFI) plaform stuff perhaps19:17
khemLetoThe2nd:there is your topic for CFP :)19:18
LetoThe2ndkhem: in a rainbow farting unicorn world, sure. in a reality world, not gonna happen. having that stuff on the board or in the SoC is $$$. At hobbyist or small run scale nobody cares about hiding like 50ct for the standardization stuff in the BoM, but at scale, it's a no-starter. why are lowballers such as allwinner, rockchip so successful? they sell the most soc at the lowest price.19:20
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khemI think total cost of ownership should be the real measure but sadly I do not see that in any BOMs19:29
LetoThe2ndcouldn't agree more.19:30
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khemwe may fall for one thing or other and then carry through to save the time and money investment we have made19:30
khemthen hire expertize to optimize for size etc. where does that cost count towards ?19:31
LetoThe2ndthe core problem is that there is no structure in business processes to reflect continuous software maintenance.19:32
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AdrianFSystem Ready IR would be interesting also for cost optimized systems. But I'm still missing the full A/B partitioning schema as we have it with fitImage and various software update solutions. As long as there is one single non powerfail-save fat16 in the middle of the reference implementations, it's probably not yet the one fits all solution.19:48
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khemI mean memory map should specify the required partitions a/b etc. is device detail20:14
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AdrianFkhem: We have hardware and boot-loaders with state machines deciding if we are on A or on B or in the transition or even if we are in a failing transition and need to fallback.20:32
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AdrianFkhem: Our customers would not be happy with a boot menu where they could choose from multiple distros (especially if the serial console is not even soldered :-) )20:33
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