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| kanavin | RP: right, this should be an easy fix | 07:35 |
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| kanavin | paulg, I'm afraid it's a bit late to start messing with directory layouts and where layer checkouts go etc, especially given that we're deep into integrating this into Yocto CI. If you want to change them, half a year ago was the time. | 07:38 |
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| kanavin | paulg, otherwise I'd suggest you summarize your findings in an email, and better yet, send patches. y/n I disagree with. Far too easy to hit enter without thinking or reading what the tool says (we've been conditioned to this by EULAs). | 07:40 |
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| kanavin | paulg, regarding sstate mirror checking, do you get the same problem if you set up a basic poky or oe configuration with bitbake-setup, and do *not* add any local tweaks? | 07:47 |
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| kanavin | paulg, independent releases on two different branches are already decopled. you can put them in the same top dir, and they will have their own layer checkouts and build dirs. No need for multiple build dirs. | 07:52 |
| kanavin | *multiple top dirs | 07:52 |
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| kanavin | paulg, you won't have to check out layers again and again. Set up another build, and they will be taken from download cache. | 07:56 |
| kanavin | *clone layers | 07:57 |
| RP | kanavin: we do still have some options with layout, I wouldn't discount that yet. The CI stuff is a start and we can change it. | 07:57 |
| landgraf | wic no-fstab-update breaks grub :-/ | 08:00 |
| landgraf | not the grub itself but grubenv which we use for OTA updates. | 08:03 |
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| RP | kanavin, yocton: you mentioned some dash fixes for bitbake-setup, were those merged yet? | 10:47 |
| kanavin | RP: I have a pull request that is ready to be merged, once the same fix to oe-setup-build merges (which it has just now :) | 10:47 |
| RP | kanavin: I think that is one of the reasons for some of the ab failures | 10:48 |
| kanavin | RP: https://github.com/kanavin/bitbake/commit/5b76676435abea8ba5a529714930c20c4c25d250.patch | 10:49 |
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| kanavin | RP: the esdk fix is easy (add CONF_VERSION to generated local.conf), but I'm puzzled as to why the error only shows up in that esdk task, and not when just running regular bitbake - and also why no complaints about missing versions in site.conf or bblayers.conf. I'd like to clear this up before rushing the fix. | 10:52 |
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| RP | kanavin: I had wondered that too | 10:57 |
| RP | kanavin: we're effectively obsoleting these files too, at least the sample ones and that does worry me | 10:57 |
| RP | kanavin: the autobuilder is also currently overwriting auto.conf with it's own. That works right now but I'm not sure how to make it and bb-setup coexist | 10:58 |
| kanavin | RP: there's a lead: if CONF_VERSION is not set in the original local.conf, then esdk writes CONF_VERSION = "None" into the local.conf that goes into the esdk bundle | 10:58 |
| RP | ah, that would do it | 10:59 |
| RP | and if you totally replace the file, it doesn't try and print upgrade messages | 10:59 |
| kanavin | RP: yes, if CONF_VERSION isn't set at all, then the insane qa check for versions is altogether skipped | 11:00 |
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| kanavin | RP: I was hoping that autobuilder would be able to take auto.conf from bitbake-setup and add the two autobuilder fragments to it. | 11:01 |
| RP | kanavin: it isn't easy as the autobuilder rewrites auto.conf quite frequently | 11:03 |
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| RP | it assumes it owns it and can do what it wants with it | 11:03 |
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| kanavin | RP: FWIW I'm also leaning towards making sstate CDN opt-in, however sad that is. Using sstate mirror places a much higher requirements on both network robustness and network bandwidth than just fetching source code. And when it doesn't work, the errors are cryptic and intermittent, or it simply sits there doing nothing. | 11:09 |
| kanavin | but I would still like to suggest to users they try it for faster builds, just not sure yet how and where to make that suggestion | 11:09 |
| kanavin | because when it does work, it's glorious | 11:09 |
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| kanavin | LetoThe2nd ^^^ | 11:19 |
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| LetoThe2nd | kanavin: thanks for the heads up! I agree with that assessment. I'll put my findings onto the public ML too as you suggested so hopefully somebody can make use of it, but my life sadly is very complicated at the moment (== busy) | 11:27 |
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| MrMojo | I am curious to see if others are using generative AI to build Linux using Yocto. I am currently using GitHub CoPilot using Sonnet as the model to try and build a custom image for a RaspberryPi 4 with a custom boot splash, XFCE4, WiFi, and boots in under 10 seconds. Currently boots to console but not to XFCE4 so still iterating. | 11:39 |
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| rburton | MrMojo: imho, genAI works well when there's a lot of boilerplate or vast array of examples. what you've described is basically just meta-xfce+meta-raspberrypi+systemd. | 11:40 |
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| kanavin | MrMojo, it needs to figure out two key pieces: a) add meta-xfce layer; b) one way or another, build an image that actually includes xfce | 11:40 |
| kanavin | I'm not sure genAI is able to operate on this level of cognition yet :) | 11:41 |
| kanavin | as a very sophisticated tape recorder with a remix function, it's amazing | 11:42 |
| MrMojo | So far it seems to be understanding the console output and making appropriate changes to improve the build. I purposefully chose something relatively straightforward but with the boot optimization as a potential curveball | 11:42 |
| kanavin | but are you understanding what changes it is doing and why? | 11:42 |
| rburton | i'd love to see what it comes up with :) | 11:43 |
| MrMojo | To some extent. I am a novice on some of this and trying to learn myself. | 11:43 |
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| MrMojo | Summary: Final Critical Fixes for Boot and Display | 11:43 |
| MrMojo | The Pi was booting but failing at the display stage. I've resolved all remaining issues: | 11:43 |
| MrMojo | 🔧 Critical Fixes: | 11:43 |
| MrMojo | systemd timeout error | 11:44 |
| MrMojo | ❌ Removed RuntimeWatchdogSec=30s (invalid, causes "Failed to set timeout" error) | 11:44 |
| MrMojo | ✅ Increased DefaultTimeoutStartSec to 90s (devices need time to initialize) | 11:44 |
| MrMojo | ❌ tty7 doesn't exist with VC4 KMS graphics | 11:44 |
| MrMojo | ✅ Changed XFCE4 service to use vt1 (tty1 - the primary console) | 11:44 |
| MrMojo | ✅ Removed Requires=dev-tty7.device dependency | 11:44 |
| MrMojo | Missing framebuffer | 11:44 |
| MrMojo | ✅ Explicitly enabled dtoverlay=vc4-kms-v3d in config.txt | 11:44 |
| MrMojo | ✅ Added max_framebuffers=2 | 11:44 |
| MrMojo | ✅ Removed dtparam=spi=off and dtparam=i2c_arm=off (were blocking init) | 11:44 |
| MrMojo | Console configuration | 11:44 |
| MrMojo | ✅ Changed kernel cmdline from console=tty3 to console=tty1 console=ttyS0,115200 | 11:44 |
| MrMojo | ✅ Updated SERIAL_CONSOLES to include tty1 | 11:44 |
| MrMojo | ✅ Removed fastboot parameter (can interfere) | 11:44 |
| MrMojo | 📊 Build Status: | 11:44 |
| MrMojo | Currently at 77% completion (5540 of 7137 tasks) - no errors! | 11:44 |
| MrMojo | This is what is currently building | 11:44 |
| RP | kanavin: we need to make sure bitbake-setup isn't judged on the CDN issues | 11:44 |
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| kanavin | RP: patch for esdk issues sent (to oe-core list) | 11:46 |
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| RP | kanavin: thanks, I'll try a run of this and Yoann's patch | 11:48 |
| kanavin | RP: yes, I trust Yoann tested his, as I didnt run it locally yet | 11:48 |
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| RP | kanavin: ah well, it is about to get tested at scale :) | 11:52 |
| yocton | RP: kanavin: (Hello) I've tested that it did not broke under dash, bash and zsh over a simple test (bb-setup init; . ./init-build-env; bitbake-getvar) | 11:52 |
| kanavin | yocton, cool, I'll get to your PRs in a moment | 11:55 |
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| yocton | I'm available for quick fixes this afternoon if needed | 11:59 |
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| kanavin | yocton, I have a couple ideas, I'll write them down in the PR | 12:00 |
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| RP | yocton, kanavin: that definitely fixed some errors so thanks! | 12:06 |
| yocton | yay :D | 12:06 |
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| RP | agodard: I ended up updating the workers list from the changes on the controller rather than your patches, just to avoid further confusion,. Hope that is ok! | 12:07 |
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| kanavin | yocton, one of the dash fixing commits is missing your s-o-b. I took the liberty of adding it. | 12:10 |
| kanavin | sadly github isn't making it easy to spot this, and generally diverts attention away from commit messages :( | 12:11 |
| yocton | kanavin: Thanks! I work under the assumption that would squash my commit with yours | 12:11 |
| RP | agodard, mathieudb: it was Mathieu's patches I replaced... | 12:11 |
| yocton | worked* | 12:11 |
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| agodard | RP: I did send some patches because I thought we wanted to keep the ubuntu2004 workers for previous releases. If that's not needed, lgtm! | 12:16 |
| RP | kanavin: the bitbake-selftests for bitbake-setup aren't working on the AB: https://autobuilder.yoctoproject.org/valkyrie/#/builders/23/builds/2591/steps/12/logs/stdio - I suspect the horrible things I did to the env to use it are breaking them but I didn't dig into it | 12:17 |
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| kanavin | yocton, I wrote a comment about the other PR of yours. you'll learn a bit about how bitbake-setup tests work :) | 12:39 |
| yocton | kanavin: already started to look at tests :) I just wanted to wait to see if the feature was worth it. (Seems like it :) ) | 12:41 |
| kanavin | yocton, rebase on latest commits first, as I made a tweak to the tests to make extending them easier | 12:41 |
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| kanavin | RP: there's definitely some kind of settings contamination from 'the host' in the test, it probably needs to really make sure to avoid them | 12:42 |
| kanavin | I'll check | 12:43 |
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| kanavin | RP: I think the bitbake-selftest fail is my own bug :) | 12:57 |
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| mathieudb | RP: no problem for the workers config, thanks! | 12:59 |
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| kanavin | RP: patch for bitbake-selftest fails https://github.com/kanavin/bitbake/commit/64f55c1717b93a4c151d006045b6ee0decedbb09.patch | 14:01 |
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| RP | kanavin: thanks. I realised I misset the test branch earlier on the ab :/ | 14:07 |
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| kanavin | RP: there's more fixes on github, but others are not critical to getting greener builds | 14:07 |
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| RP | kanavin: I've started another run, lets hope this one looks better | 14:18 |
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| RP | kanavin: ah, the code isn't passing all the right repo config :( | 14:20 |
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| kanavin | yocton, since THISDIR PR is marked as RFC, do you want further feedback from others? Should it be separately sent to bitbake-devel? | 14:39 |
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| yocton | kanavin: I'm fine with whatever you prefer... Since you took it in your branch, review can happen next time you post the bb-setup series on bitbake-devel? | 14:44 |
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| RP | kanavin: https://autobuilder.yoctoproject.org/valkyrie/#/builders/50/builds/2509/steps/6/logs/stdio vs the header in https://autobuilder.yoctoproject.org/valkyrie/#/builders/50/builds/2509/steps/12/logs/stdio - HEAD vs master-next :/ | 15:03 |
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| kanavin | RP: I see 'rev' but not 'branch'? You need both to avoid HEAD | 15:46 |
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| RP | kanavin: oh, the code needs to call it branch now? | 15:51 |
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| RP | ahrg, that is a server restart to change :( | 15:51 |
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| RP | kanavin: is it ok with branch=master-next and rev=HEAD ? | 15:52 |
| RP | hmm, I've forgotten I need to implement some code for some of this :/ | 15:53 |
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| kanavin | RP: you need to put both branch and rev into the override json. See this: https://github.com/kanavin/bitbake/blob/akanavin/bitbake-setup/default-registry/configurations/poky-master.conf.json | 16:24 |
| kanavin | I see only the rev in here https://autobuilder.yoctoproject.org/valkyrie/#/builders/50/builds/2509/steps/6/logs/stdio | 16:25 |
| kanavin | RP: rev can be the branch name, git interprets that as head of the branch | 16:25 |
| RP | kanavin: do I want rev=HEAD or rev=<branchname> ? | 16:27 |
| RP | kanavin: or does that not matter? | 16:27 |
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| kanavin | RP: I only confirmed that rev=<branchname> works | 16:29 |
| kanavin | I did not try rev=HEAD | 16:29 |
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| sakoman | RP: most of this morning's scarthgap-nut build is proceeding normally with this one exception: https://autobuilder.yoctoproject.org/valkyrie/#/builders/40/builds/2471 | 17:23 |
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| sakoman | RP: I don't want to interfere with your work, just thought you might want to know | 17:24 |
| sakoman | RP: so feel free to ignore for now! | 17:24 |
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| RP | sakoman: there have been changes and fixes in that area, thanks. | 17:30 |
| RP | sakoman: helper tweaked to hopefully fix that | 17:32 |
| sakoman | RP: thanks, I'll let you know if I see any other issues | 17:33 |
| RP | rburton: same issue on your llvm master build | 17:33 |
| RP | sakoman: it all got a bit rushed with the controller restarts being needed :/ | 17:33 |
| sakoman | RP: I understand. I really don't want to get in the way, so let me know if you'd like me to avoid the autobuilder while you work | 17:34 |
| RP | sakoman: knowing the older releases still work is good so this is fine thanks | 17:35 |
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| RP | we now have the list of selftests with hardcoded layout assumptions: https://autobuilder.yoctoproject.org/valkyrie/#/builders/48/builds/2356 :/ | 17:42 |
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