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| khem | RP: OK although it will be good to know the rationale, clang/llvm can be configured to use lld to be default linker during compile and its currently selected to be so when ld-is-lld for target and cross clang but SDKs do not behave as expected. If a distro uses clang and lld as defaults, the behaviour is not consistent with SDK. | 03:48 |
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| toric | Whats the cleanest way to apply a patch file only for specific images? I have a dev image that I want to enable the testpoint uart on, and Ive written a patch file to do that, but IDK how to only conditionally use a bbappend file. | 09:19 |
| toric | (asked this on friday as well, but no one awnsered before I left, apologies if someone with a longer chat history has already seen this awnsered. I should really setup a bouncer... | 09:21 |
| toric | ) | 09:21 |
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| yocton | toric: you can't do that based on image (recipes can't know in which image they will be installed). But you can do that based on DISTRO : one prod distro and one dev distro based on prod. Then, you can use a distro override to make your patch conditionnal | 09:26 |
| toric | Hoo boy. Whats the difference between a distro and an image agan? (ive used yocto for 2 years now, but I still feel like an idiot doing anything more than writing packages.) | 09:27 |
| toric | And theres no way for me do base this on a recipie, right? (add a recipie that patches/bbappends the linux kernel recipie?) | 09:28 |
| toric | Can I make a custom entry in IMAGE_FEATURES, and check that within the kernel recipie? | 09:30 |
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| LetoThe2nd | toric: an image is essentially just a standard recipe which defines a package selection to be installed. a distro makes build-wide configuration settings. | 09:31 |
| LetoThe2nd | toric: and no, you can't do that on recipe basis. the usual way to go is a DISTRO_FEATURE. You can easily trigger on that in a bbappend or such. | 09:32 |
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| toric | Hmm, ok. Gonna have to put this guy on hold then, migrating the repo from mulit-image to multi-distro is gonna be a pain. (Its currently still poky based, was our leads first experience with yocto) | 09:38 |
| toric | Thanks for the advice though, at least now I know its possible. | 09:38 |
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| LetoThe2nd | toric: have fun | 09:39 |
| toric | Of the dwarf fortress kind, im sure I will. | 09:39 |
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| LetoThe2nd | Usually its not *that* complicated. | 09:41 |
| paulbarker | toric: You can start off by copying the poky distro config and then tweaking as needed over time | 09:49 |
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| mcfrisk | toric: maybe it's better to tie debug features to runtime config on device. for example debug uart should only work if fuse has not been blown. to me "build time configured" things are usually not the correct answer. | 10:00 |
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| toric | mcfrisk: you might be right, but IDK if a fuse is right for us. We still get alot of units back from the field for fault investigation, so anything one-time is a no-go at this point in dev. I originally wanted to use a devicetree overlay, but couldnt figure out how to get those to apply without manually using the uboot command line. | 10:13 |
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| JaMa | How to avoid host-user-contaminated QA issue when I package files owned by the same UID/GID as the user running bitbake (when they are valid UID/GID from the target image as defined by base-passwd?) | 10:35 |
| rburton | JaMa: INSANE_SKIP, they're reported via the usual method | 10:36 |
| JaMa | yeah, I can skip it, but what if it's a lot of files/recipes which do this, would it make sense to check for UID/GID existence in target passwd first? | 10:38 |
| rburton | well you could just blanket skip that test by removing it from ERROR_QA in your distro, if you're going to trip it a lot | 10:38 |
| JaMa | especially in environments where you don't control the UID/GID of people building the images you might get the error from different recipes as well | 10:39 |
| rburton | it makes the assumption that files out of /home are owned by non-normal-users, if that's not true then sure skip it globally | 10:39 |
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| mcfrisk | toric: for those cases then a device specific token, possibly crypto protected and tied to device specific secrets. Only availability of such a token on device at runtime enables debug featues. | 10:52 |
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| Saur | JaMa: What we have done is to add comments for each UID < 1000 that is used by an actual user in our passwd file so that those UIDs are not assigned for anything in OE. At the same time we try to migrate the remaining users with such UIDs to IDs that are above 1000. | 11:53 |
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| KanjiMonster | toric: you could split the package into two veriants/recipies, one without the patch and one with it (just move everything into a shared .inc, then let the debug.bb extend SRC_URI with the patch). Might be a bit more complicated if this is the kernel though | 12:15 |
| toric | This is indeed the kernel, but I that might work... | 12:15 |
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| kilobyte_ch | Hello, I'm currently using X11 with matchbox to display a chromium kiosk session. Is my assumption correct that this is not the "best" way anymore and the currently best way would be to use wayland with weston in kiosk-shell to run a chromium session? I'm on Raspberry Pi 4. | 14:27 |
| kilobyte_ch | Also another question, anyone here with experience with Yocto on Raspberry Pi 4 and Secure Boot? | 14:27 |
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| mcfrisk | kilobyte_ch: I test rpi4 with u-boot, and secure boot from u-boot to kernel (not from HW to u-boot). https://gitlab.com/Linaro/trustedsubstrate/meta-ts/-/blob/master/meta-trustedsubstrate/conf/machine/rpi4.conf?ref_type=heads | 14:31 |
| mcfrisk | kilobyte_ch: uefi-secureboot machine feature from meta-arm does most of the work | 14:33 |
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| kilobyte_ch | mcfrisk: interesting, thanks! (Even though I want to use firmware secureboot without u-boot, but some concepts look similar) | 14:45 |
| kilobyte_ch | mcfrisk: question, is the rootfs encrypted in your implementation? | 14:46 |
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| rburton | kilobyte_ch: weston+kiosk would be the more modern approach, yes | 15:02 |
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| JaMa | Saur: we have that conflict on UID 1001 which was added to the image and also is used by default by our jenkins user running the builds :). | 18:48 |
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