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| tlwoerner | maybe i'm using a strange configuration or doing something fishy, but opkg now seems to have a dependency on acl? | 03:54 |
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| khem | tlwoerner: take a look at - https://lore.kernel.org/openembedded-core/20251127174140.906490-1-skandigraun@gmail.com/ | 04:18 |
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| tlwoerner | khem: that looks useful ;-) | 04:22 |
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| kanavin | khem, do you still need the abs path? | 08:03 |
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| kanavin | the prefix to above is /home/akanavin/build | 08:04 |
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| kanavin | it does look like it could be contamination from latest fedora. the binary says it was built with gcc 15.2.1 | 09:46 |
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| kanavin | tgamblin, the poisoned qemu sstate item refers to /srv/pokybuild/tgambling-qemux86/openembedded-core/build | 10:06 |
| kanavin | do you remember which build was that? | 10:06 |
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| aduskett | excellent! I got dnf repo signing working on dnf5! | 10:35 |
| aduskett | Terrible! I have to manually import the key first! | 10:35 |
| aduskett | gpg --homedir=/var/cache/libdnf5/oe-remote-repo-5f24888d6736c3cf/pubring/ --import /etc/pki/packagefeed-gpg/PACKAGEFEED-GPG-KEY-defaultsetup-test | 10:35 |
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| aduskett | neverpanic, got any ideas why I would have to create the pubring directory and import the key first? | 10:55 |
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| rburton | RP kanavin: hm maybe we need to limit the write access to the sstate so only pokybuild can write into there? | 11:02 |
| kanavin | rburton, this was done as pokybuild user :-/ | 11:03 |
| kanavin | I also thought that it's somewhat careless to run private builds and configure to use the AB sstate | 11:03 |
| rburton | yeah, i use it as a mirror, but it's easier to set it up as a read/write and think sstate won't cause problems. | 11:08 |
| rburton | i do think nuking that specific sstate would be an interesting test: if that fixes it then we ask tgamblin if he can remember what was in that build that would cause such chaos | 11:09 |
| kanavin | I suspect it wasn't anything special, just fedora 43 toolchain doing something to the binary that causes issues on older rhels | 11:10 |
| kanavin | that particular sstate has a timestamp of Nov 27 13:28 | 11:13 |
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| rburton | have you managed to replicate the failure with fresh sstate from f43? (ie do we blame all f43 sstate, or that sstate in particular) | 11:14 |
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| kanavin | rburton, no, I did not try that yet. | 11:33 |
| kanavin | I can produce fresh sstate (privately to avoid further contamination), and copy it over to alma8 perhaps | 11:34 |
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| rburton | yeah, when i was chasing a problem like this i was building on one machine and then rsyncing the sstate to another | 11:35 |
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| RP | kanavin: people shouldn't have been writing there :/ | 11:38 |
| kanavin | let's see if I can find that build on one of the fedora 43 hosts | 11:39 |
| kanavin | yep, found it on fedora43-vk-1 | 11:42 |
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| kanavin | and yes, local.conf basically has a copy of autobuilder's config | 11:43 |
| kanavin | including SSTATE_DIR | 11:43 |
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| RP | kanavin: the question is if you run a build on that machine, do you get the same problematic sstate? | 11:53 |
| kanavin | RP, that's what I'm going to try next | 11:53 |
| RP | kanavin: if so, we at least know the cause, we can then remove the object from sstate and keep f43 paused until we work it out | 11:54 |
| kanavin | RP, yes, I think I've also seen cargo-native error somewhere with the same ld.so error | 11:54 |
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| kanavin | RP, rburton I replicate the fail with sstate I made myself on f43, so it's about the distribution, not that particular build | 12:36 |
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| RP | kanavin: ok, great to know, thanks. Can you delete the problematic sstate artefact from the main sstate? | 12:42 |
| RP | kanavin: maybe move it into our failed-builds directory/ | 12:44 |
| RP | ? | 12:44 |
| RP | kanavin: /srv/autobuilder/autobuilder.yocto.io/pub/failed-builds-data/ | 12:44 |
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| rburton | kanavin: well thats annoying isn't it | 12:54 |
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| tgamblin | kanavin: rburton: nuke it, that's from me trying to reproduce the qemux86 fedora43 builds | 13:05 |
| kanavin | RP, I think there's something called 'shared-failure-data', I will move the offending sstate item there under 'f43-sstate/' | 13:06 |
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| kanavin | halstead I am unable to become 'pokybuild' on alma8-vk2 (sudo -iu pokybuild prompts for (non-existing) password) | 13:08 |
| halstead | kanavin: I'll fix it now. | 13:08 |
| kanavin | I can do the needed operation on a f43 worker, it's about removing bad sstate item | 13:09 |
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| halstead | kanavin: fixed. | 13:11 |
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| tgamblin | rburton: there shouldn't be anything too strange in that sstate coming from me - I was building and continuously running testimage on core-image-minimal + core-image-sato + core-image-sato-sdk with a configuration that was as close to what the AB runs as I could get. Maybe I shouldn't have used the same sstate settings | 13:12 |
| tgamblin | but if it started breaking after I looked into it, then I must be the source :) | 13:12 |
| rburton | tgamblin: always good to just use the AB sstate as a read-only mirror to avoid polluting it but yeah it appears to be a general f43 problem | 13:12 |
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| neverpanic | kanavin: I vaguely recall there was some binutils issue or something on the latest Fedora, but I can't find any reference to it anymore. Maybe that's what's causing the uninative problem? | 13:22 |
| RP | tgamblin: your build put f43 artefacts into sstate they broke stuff. unfortunate and it would have probably happened some other way sooner or later if you hadn't done it | 13:23 |
| RP | tgamblin: just when doing this in future, please use it as a read only mirror, not writing to it | 13:23 |
| neverpanic | aduskett: does your .repo file in /etc/yum.repos.d reference the GPG key in the gpgkey directive? If so, dnf should prompt you to import it when it is needed (or do so automatically when used with dnf install -y) | 13:23 |
| tgamblin | RP: will do, sorry | 13:23 |
| kanavin | RP, I moved out the problematic qemu piece from sstate, there might be more of those | 13:25 |
| kanavin | I'll re-run AUH now to see if it can proceed further | 13:25 |
| aduskett | neverpanic, it lives in /etc/pki/packagefeed-gpg/PACKAGEFEED-GPG-KEY-defaultsetup-test | 13:25 |
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| aduskett | neverpanic, if I run `mkdir -p /var/cache/libdnf5/oe-remote-repo-5f24888d6736c3cf/pubring/ && gpg --homedir=/var/cache/libdnf5/oe-remote-repo-5f24888d6736c3cf/pubring/ --import /etc/pki/packagefeed-gpg/PACKAGEFEED-GPG-KEY-defaultsetup-test` then `dnf makecache` works | 13:26 |
| neverpanic | Yeah, you shouldn't have to do that | 13:27 |
| aduskett | oh for sure lol | 13:27 |
| neverpanic | what are the contents of /etc/yum.repos.d/? | 13:27 |
| neverpanic | Also, never use gpg to import keys, especially with the rpm-sequoia backend. Always use rpmkeys --import | 13:28 |
| neverpanic | GPG doesn't know how to handle OpenPGPv6 keys, and you'll probably see more of those in the future. | 13:28 |
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| aduskett | neverpanic, well, sequoia is disabled in the test image anyways. And rpm doesn't have a concept of repositories so... | 13:28 |
| neverpanic | DNF does, though. I thought you were testing DNF? | 13:29 |
| aduskett | neverpanic, I am | 13:29 |
| aduskett | and dnf5 uses librepo which uses gpgme | 13:29 |
| aduskett | as far as I can tell? | 13:29 |
| neverpanic | Maybe if you have sequoia disabled, yes. | 13:29 |
| neverpanic | Still, dnf should notice if you don't have the key in your rpm database and prompt you to import it, if it's configured correctly | 13:30 |
| aduskett | But wouldn't that be for rpm signing and not repo signing? | 13:30 |
| aduskett | Or am I misunderstanding? | 13:30 |
| neverpanic | Maybe — in the configurations I typically look at repo signing isn't enabled. | 13:31 |
| aduskett | As far as the .repo: repo_gpgcheck=1 pkg_gpgcheck=1 gpgkey=file:///etc/pki/packagefeed-gpg/PACKAGEFEED-GPG-KEY-defaultsetup-test | 13:31 |
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| aduskett | on new lines of course | 13:31 |
| neverpanic | OK, that looks correct. So if dnf update doesn't import the key or prompt you to import the key and just fails, I'd say that's an upstream bug (that nobody noticed because the distributions that run dnf5 don't default to repo signing) | 13:32 |
| aduskett | god I hate that | 13:33 |
| aduskett | I'll make an issue report | 13:33 |
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| tgamblin | kanavin: was delayed (surprise), but I made some progress on the Python 3.14.0 upgrade (just needed to add a --prefix flag in the python_pep517 class). Working through testing of the core layer now | 13:40 |
| tgamblin | Might have it ready for review by the end of this week | 13:40 |
| kanavin | tgamblin, cool, let's see what a-full says :) | 13:41 |
| kanavin | build world with it first | 13:42 |
| tgamblin | kanavin: core-image-ptest-all is currently blowing up on the maturin-built Python recipes, so I still have some work to do :) | 13:42 |
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| kanavin | yeah, ptests all need to pass too | 13:42 |
| kanavin | it's always a major project | 13:42 |
| tgamblin | looks like pyo3 minimum version for 3.14.0 support is 0.27.0 | 13:43 |
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| aduskett | neverpanic, is this too much? https://github.com/rpm-software-management/dnf5/issues/2539 lol | 15:11 |
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| kanavin | RP, rburton same error in cargo-native sstate. I'll find out what file it is and move it out as well. | 15:19 |
| kanavin | ('Inconsistency detected by ld.so: ...'_ | 15:19 |
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| aduskett | If anyone wants to review the commits as they stand now, it would be much appreciated: https://github.com/aduskett/openembedded-core/commits/dnf5/ | 15:21 |
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| rburton | aduskett: i left a couple of comments on the toml recipe then realised you probably moved it, instead of writing it | 15:27 |
| aduskett | rburton, indeed I did just move it | 15:28 |
| aduskett | rburton, do you want me to clean it up ? | 15:28 |
| rburton | follow-up commits would be great but feel free to not and i'll do them in meta-oe now :) | 15:29 |
| rburton | the recipe is making me itch | 15:29 |
| aduskett | It's not great lol | 15:29 |
| aduskett | rburton, check the dnf5 recipe to see if my recipe skills are good or terrible lol | 15:30 |
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| rburton | you have DEPENDSremove:class-native, so are those dependencies actually optional or does the configure disable those dnfdaemon features even if you asked it to turn them on? | 15:31 |
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| rburton | a better approach would likely be to forcibly disable those packageconfigs in native builds instead (PACKAGECONFIG:remove:class-native) | 15:32 |
| aduskett | ah nice | 15:32 |
| rburton | ah yeah i see the extra_oecmake later | 15:32 |
| rburton | you can decide whether there should be a PACKAGECONFIG:class-native or just :remove specific things | 15:33 |
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| aduskett | I like the PACKAGECONFIG:remove:class-native you suggested | 15:33 |
| aduskett | it's cleaner | 15:33 |
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| rburton | inherit bash-completion instead of packaging it manualy | 15:34 |
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| aduskett | It is inherited :D | 15:34 |
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| aduskett | bash-completion.bbclass only adds `FILES:${PN}-bash-completion = "${datadir}/bash-completion ${sysconfdir}/bash_completion.d"` | 15:38 |
| aduskett | So I had to add the dnf5 path manually | 15:38 |
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| qschulz | is oe-pkgdata-util supposed to work with nativesdk recipes? | 15:49 |
| qschulz | I'm trying to figure out if I've set the right RDEPENDS but I'm only building an SDK | 15:49 |
| rburton | qschulz: you need to tell it to use the right pkgdata directory | 15:52 |
| rburton | aduskett: ah sorry | 15:52 |
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| qschulz | rburton: great thanks, a bit confusing there's a top -p for oe-pkgdata-util and another -p for subcommands (e.g. list-pkg-files) | 15:55 |
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| aduskett | rburton, no worries! It means you are taking the time to look it over which is much appreciated! | 15:55 |
| rburton | qschulz: yeah... | 15:56 |
| qschulz | agodard: the doc toolchain isn't enough to build all the docs it seems, missing latexmk | 15:56 |
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| qschulz | how are you testing it? | 15:57 |
| kanavin | halstead, I had removed a file from sstate directory, but it is still downloadable from sstate.yoctoproject.org. Is that expected, what kind of delay there is before it disappears there too? | 16:01 |
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| qschulz | agodard: i guess we don't want hundreds of small recipes for TeX-related packages? | 16:19 |
| RP | kanavin: that makes sense thanks | 16:22 |
| agodard | qschulz: you can use https://git.yoctoproject.org/yocto-autobuilder-helper/tree/scripts/run-docs-build#n70 for the pdf build | 16:23 |
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| qschulz | agodard: ok so really not supported :) | 16:24 |
| agodard | qschulz: we do list latex packages in the host requirements section though. have you tried using those? | 16:25 |
| agodard | qschulz: it's what the build-docs-container script uses to build the pdf | 16:26 |
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| qschulz | I had expected that a toolchain we build for building the docs can actually build the docs :) | 16:26 |
| qschulz | but I vaguely remember we decided years ago to not support latex stuff in the toolchain otherwise too many recipes to maintain for little benefit | 16:27 |
| qschulz | like the maintenance burden isn't worth the ability to build PDFs for the docs | 16:28 |
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| neverpanic | aduskett: Sounds like a good description of the problem. | 16:42 |
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| aduskett | neverpanic, hopefully I didn't leave anything out! | 16:43 |
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| agodard | qschulz: yes exactly we didn't want to write the latex recipes, so used tlmgr as a fallback on the autobuilder | 16:51 |
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| khem | kanavin: I could reproduce it on alma8 ( bitbake-setup with buildtools is another glitch I ran into ) but regardless it seems its calling form ldso from uninative encoded in ELF file which is right, but when we invoke it normally it calls into ldso which loads libc.so from host and not from uninative or even buildtools | 17:11 |
| khem | manually invoking ldso from uninative makes it work as expected | 17:11 |
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| kanavin | khem, but how do you know it goes to the host when invoked normally? | 17:12 |
| kanavin | the assertion in itself is not evidence for that, and I couldn't see exactly which loader is used then | 17:13 |
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| khem | assertion means that ldso and libc.so do not match | 17:14 |
| khem | usually they work ok across several versions and combinations but does have consistency checks like one we are running into | 17:14 |
| khem | I did not try strace or LD_DEBUG=all envvar yet but those may reveal more | 17:15 |
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| kanavin | khem, I tried both, sadly the error happens before either kicks in | 17:34 |
| kanavin | anyway, the offending sstate is being deleted so we can unblock master | 17:34 |
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| kanavin | (or rather preserved in a special things-that-failed directory :) | 17:34 |
| khem | is there a way to find out which host generated the sstate object ? | 17:35 |
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| khem | I think such issues do dent trust in sstate for users who are skeptical about it. So I wanted to understand more about the cause | 17:37 |
| kanavin | in general, there isn't | 17:37 |
| khem | I do have a local workspace with the binary | 17:37 |
| kanavin | in this case, it was indirectly deduced that the binary has information that it was built with gcc 15.2.1 it must be some really new distro | 17:37 |
| kanavin | and it contained the build path, and I found that path on one of the fedora 43 workers | 17:38 |
| khem | sounds like f43 | 17:38 |
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| khem | then its matter of time when f43 is reprovisioned in AB and this issue will be back | 17:40 |
| kanavin | we'll take care to not take it into the set before this specific issue is resolved properly | 17:40 |
| kanavin | right now they're all taken out | 17:41 |
| khem | I wonder if a simple helloworld program built on f43 runs on alma8 | 17:41 |
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| khem | ./a.out: /lib64/libc.so.6: version `GLIBC_2.34' not found (required by ./a.out) | 17:45 |
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| kanavin | which is not the same, and happens later | 17:46 |
| kanavin | note that you need to use yocto's tool to set the interpreter to one provided in a alma8 yocto build | 17:46 |
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| kanavin | patchelf-something, forgot what | 17:47 |
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| khem | :) | 17:48 |
| khem | This experiment is to trace the loading | 17:48 |
| kanavin | yeah, but if you want to reproduce the issue with a simple hello world built outside of yocto | 17:49 |
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| khem | I can see that if I load using ldso from buildtools it loads the libc from buildtools too so thats good | 17:49 |
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| khem | I think the problem is this - f43 has glibc 2.42 but the buildtools version of glibc has 2.41 | 17:51 |
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| khem | atleast thats how its on alma8 box where the issue it happening | 17:51 |
| kanavin | 8-( ) | 17:52 |
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| kanavin | but: https://git.openembedded.org/openembedded-core/tree/meta/conf/distro/include/yocto-uninative.inc | 17:53 |
| kanavin | this lists 2.42 | 17:53 |
| kanavin | oh wait, that is uninative | 17:54 |
| kanavin | not the buildtools | 17:54 |
| khem | glibc in uninative have 2.42 | 17:55 |
| khem | yeah so we have various combinations flying in there | 17:55 |
| khem | and the binary is built against newest one :) | 17:56 |
| khem | usually it should be otherway around for glibc to work as designed | 17:56 |
| kanavin | but it should be using uninative only, why is it even trying to load with buildtools? | 17:57 |
| khem | do we build buildtools from releases only? | 17:57 |
| khem | let me see | 17:57 |
| kanavin | (I mean trying to load a native built executable with buildtools, that seems incorrect in the first place) | 17:57 |
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| khem | right, it should call uninative version if ldso used is from uninative technically | 17:59 |
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| jonmason | looks like the summit got ended | 18:44 |
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| kanavin | this is the afterparty | 18:44 |
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| vmeson | :-( The party should just be getting started! | 18:53 |
| khem | zoom went to fetch a beer :) | 18:54 |
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| khem | kanavin: I am building my own buildtools tarball using glibc 2.42 and see if that changes the behavior on alma8 | 18:57 |
| khem | if it does then we know where to look at | 18:57 |
| khem | and perhaps we just need to adopt a tenet to have buildtools tarball built using latest master whenever glibc is upgraded | 18:58 |
| kanavin | khem, no, that wouldn't explain why native tools are using items from buildtools when they shouldn't | 18:59 |
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| kanavin | but as a test of the theory, please do | 19:01 |
| kanavin | meanwhile I am hitting the dreaded rust-native segfaults, after removing all the offending sstate items that were obscuring it | 19:02 |
| kanavin | it happens fairly reliably with auh, but doesn't in a private build on the same machine | 19:03 |
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| kanavin | so there might be some autobuilder setting at play there | 19:03 |
| kanavin | anyway ----> afk, dinner | 19:03 |
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| tgamblin | is there a way to run do_testimage tasks with nographic set? | 20:41 |
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| kanavin | tgamblin, configure the build to not enable graphics in qemu-system-native, or there's TEST_RUNQEMUPARAMS I think | 21:00 |
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| tgamblin | kanavin: thanks! TEST_RUNQEMUPARAMS:append = " nographic" seems to work | 21:01 |
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