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vvnrburton: the entire image is a long shot and not necessary right now, the most important is the application stack that has too many dependencies, bbappend all of them seems way too ugly00:24
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throosGood morning. Asking for a friend - if they want clang 19 on scarthgap. The correct way is to create a mixin branch here: https://git.yoctoproject.org/meta-lts-mixins ? Or is there anything somewhere else to reuse already? If not - where should the patches be submitted? Any naming convention? Ty!06:31
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LetoThe2ndthroos: if the want to "upstream" it then yes, meta-lts-mixins sounds like the way to go.07:52
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PeterMthroos: if newer clang on scarthgap is needed, why would be 19 preferred over 20? https://github.com/kraj/meta-clang/tree/scarthgap-clang2008:06
throosthank you both - need to ask the friend ;) - what is the process, mailing list for meta-lts-mixins?08:13
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paulbarkerMorning08:17
paulbarkerthroos: The mailing list would be yocto-patches08:18
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paulbarkerMy recommendation is to make a temporary repo on github/gitlab/codeberg to share initial work, get the mixin layer to a basic working state, then send an email to the list asking for a branch to be created in meta-lts-mixins08:20
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PeterMthroos: approach for new clang was discussed for clang-20 and the preferred at that time was new branch on github meta-clang over mixins layer08:22
PeterMNew branch in mixins would need a maintainer, which would have to be most probably the patch/branch submitter08:22
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rburtonthroos: there's a clang layer that has older versions, that meta-intel uses10:00
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throosyou mean this dynamic layer here? https://git.yoctoproject.org/meta-intel/tree/dynamic-layers/clang-layer?h=scarthgap10:02
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qschulzlooking at the mesa 25.3.5 update and will look at mesa 26.0.0 next10:33
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qschulzmmmm they do say to wait for 26.0.1 for "People who are concerned with stability and reliability"10:36
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rburtonyeah .0 is basically a RC11:14
rburtonthroos: https://github.com/zboszor/meta-clang-revival11:14
qschulzrburton: should I give it a try still or do we wait the 2-3 additional weeks?11:15
PeterMI wonder what's holding up scarthgap 5.0.16 which was planned to be available for testing 3 days ago...11:15
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rburtonqschulz: if you have the time do the upgrade and post as a rfc saying a .1 is coming11:16
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yoctonPeterM: Basically, I was late sending the patch review request but since the QA team is also running late, I took time to include as many patches as possible12:52
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yoctonPeterM: I wanted to send the pull request today but got a nasty AB-INT bug :-/12:53
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mcfriskanyone seen git lfs failing in do_unpack due to name resolution failure. git lfs checkout and same commands work outside of bitbake and fetcher but fail within. odd13:23
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landgrafmcfrisk: do_unpack doesn't have network access iirc13:26
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landgrafunless BB_NO_NETWORK is set to 013:27
mcfriskso git lfs support in kirkstone is broken, I presume. And ends up trying to fetch in du_unpack then.13:27
landgrafgit lfs is covered with tests as I can see. Breakage should be noticed... but I don't use lfs and I'm avoiding it as much as I can :D13:29
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mcfriskgit lfs enabled repo is causing "git checkout" to turn into network actions to fetch lfs binaries which is then failing. on kirkstone and tried to cherry-pick already a bunch of lfs related commits. sigh13:39
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RPmcfrisk: lfs was a world of pain :/14:09
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qschulzagodard: podman is doing some weird things with pip3.sh, gonna have to investigate wth is going on16:12
qschulz(and I got sidetracked by mesa :) )16:12
qschulz(pip3.sh actually is mounted as a directory to todocumentation/ols/ in the yocto-docs repo)16:13
qschulzdocumentation/tools16:13
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agodardqschulz: yikes, so it's broken for non-ubuntu/debian containers currently?16:14
qschulzI know this is how it used to be when you didn't pass a pip3 variable16:14
qschulzagodard: yeah, i haven't figured why COPY is doing a recusrive directory copy just yet16:14
qschulzinstead of simply copying a file16:15
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mrc3hi! is there any doc that describes status/release processs of kirkstone? we've been on the lookout for the 4.0.33 tag16:26
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qschulzmrc3: https://lore.kernel.org/yocto/19266426506120e17fec17b1eeb1ed03ee36d8ec.camel@pbarker.dev/16:27
qschulzin QA16:27
qschulzhttps://lore.kernel.org/yocto/SN7PR11MB70185769802F6C1243667004F499A@SN7PR11MB7018.namprd11.prod.outlook.com/16:27
qschulzETA for end of QA from intel tomorrow16:27
qschulzso +- some days16:27
mrc3qschulz, thanks a lot for the pointers! much appreciated16:28
qschulzbarring some issues found by QA of course :)16:29
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mcfriskdo_unpack() has networking disabled with unshare. yet git checkout runs without GIT_LFS_SKIP_SMUDGE=1 and thus lfs tries to fetch files which fails. bare cached git repo can't host lfs files. now what...16:32
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qschulzagodard: it was a massive PEBKAC, I forgot to add ARG PIP3 to the Containerfile "sob"17:08
qschulz😭17:08
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qschulzagodard: ugh, debian doesn't want you to run pip anymore I had forgotten about that17:54
qschulzthey want you to do this via a venv17:54
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kanavinqschulz, mesa has had that notice about .0 releases for years, but I don't think it carries much real meaning, given the multiple release candidates that happens prior. Don't wait for .1 to prepare an update, it usually only has minor fixups, the bulk of changes (that need to get through yocto CI) are in .017:57
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RPsome good news, I have a decent idea of where the pseudo issue is coming from with openat2, and we can fix it23:30
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