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| PhoenixMage | Can runqemu run wic images natively? | 06:24 |
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| PhoenixMage | If I specify the wic image as part of the cmdline I get "Unknown path arg" | 06:29 |
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| mra90 | I must say I hate Yocto, this is such a garbage... overengineered as hell | 06:30 |
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| PhoenixMage | mra90: I guess it depends what you are trying to achieve, what are your alternatives... | 06:31 |
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| mra90 | I have used devtool to compile sources from my local drive rather then having them download from the web during build (what an idea ?!??!) And now Yocto complains about the version mismatch between the one I have locally is different then the one saved in the recipe. However documentation says that when I do devtool modify <targe> its version is ignored... apparently not for me | 06:33 |
| mra90 | so my compilation fails at kernel_sanity_check... Gemini suggest to do devtool reset <target> and devtool modify again + remove cached folder... non of these work | 06:34 |
| PhoenixMage | I've never used devtool, only ever create recipes by hand | 06:34 |
| mra90 | so how to tell it to NOT download sources from web and look at my local directory | 06:35 |
| mra90 | This is an evil idea to download sources from the web.. if I have 3 targets it will download the same kernel 3 time do each ./build folder... whuhh | 06:36 |
| PhoenixMage | If you share a download dir between the builds then it wont | 06:36 |
| mra90 | but I develop my own kernel, why would I donwload something from the web each time I compile? | 06:37 |
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| mra90 | This system is for people who can not do git clone <SRC_REPO>.... | 06:38 |
| PhoenixMage | Add this to your recipe... | 06:39 |
| PhoenixMage | inherit externalsrc | 06:39 |
| PhoenixMage | EXTERNALSRC = "/home/user/development/my-app-src" | 06:39 |
| PhoenixMage | EXTERNALSRC_BUILD = "/home/user/development/my-app-src" | 06:39 |
| mra90 | this is such a diffitcult task that Yocto decided to automate it... as if we clone repo every few minutess... | 06:39 |
| PhoenixMage | Its designed for building the same thing across multiple pieces of hardware | 06:40 |
| PhoenixMage | Not really a build system for day to day use | 06:40 |
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| mra90 | like something you share with client? | 06:43 |
| mra90 | but day to day you develop elsewhere | 06:43 |
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| PhoenixMage | Like building an OS across multiple SBCs | 06:44 |
| PhoenixMage | Sounds like you want something more akin to a CI/CD pipeline | 06:44 |
| mra90 | <PhoenixMage> EXTERNALSRC_BUILD = "/home/user/development/my-app-src" -> why did you call build folder my-app-src? | 06:45 |
| PhoenixMage | Its the directory you build the src in, call it what you like | 06:45 |
| mra90 | but it will only keep build artefacts? | 06:46 |
| mra90 | I am asking because I also seen Yocto copies sources from place to place for no reason | 06:46 |
| mra90 | lets says I have my kernel under /home/linux but then for osme reason yocto copies it to ./build/tmp/src/linux/ | 06:46 |
| PhoenixMage | Why are you using yocto at all? | 06:47 |
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| mra90 | Company idea for some reason... | 06:48 |
| mra90 | I think it was presented as a cool tool at some conference and menagarers wowed | 06:49 |
| PhoenixMage | Are you in the IoT space? | 06:49 |
| mra90 | nope, networking | 06:49 |
| PhoenixMage | Do you ship custom operating systems or something? | 06:50 |
| mra90 | EXTERNALSRC = "/home/user/development/my-app-src" -> this gives me an error "unparsed line" | 06:50 |
| mra90 | yes, custom OS | 06:51 |
| PhoenixMage | Not sure what to tell you, read the docs and use google, I have stuff to do | 06:53 |
| mra90 | actually my bad, I had double quote | 06:53 |
| mra90 | sure, so you say that Yocto should be only used to release the OS for the customer but internal dev should be done elsewhere? | 06:59 |
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| tlwoerner | mathieudb: i'm having difficulty figuring out where those tests are from that failed | 12:51 |
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| tlwoerner | none of the oe-selftest tests in the wic module call core-image-sato, and neither does the test in meta-poky | 12:53 |
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| tlwoerner | i don't think these are tests that failed the last time, which is curious. last time the test that failed was the oe-selftest in meta-poky | 12:55 |
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| RP | tlwoerner: which failure are you wondering about? Maybe I can help track them down... | 13:16 |
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| mathieudb | tlwoerner: these are defined directly in the autobuilder config: https://git.yoctoproject.org/yocto-autobuilder-helper/tree/config.json#n1004 | 13:26 |
| mathieudb | tlwoerner: I only realized that now, so I will probably have to fix the builder config, your series is probably fine | 13:28 |
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| colin-pm | Has anyone looked into the Python CVE CVE-2025-12781 yet? Not sure what the solution is for this one, the patch seems to only add a deprecation warning with a plan to actually deprecate in a future release. | 14:11 |
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| tlwoerner | RP: https://autobuilder.yoctoproject.org/valkyrie/#/builders/15/builds/3190 | 14:41 |
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| mathieudb | RP: tlwoerner: so I can probably modify the builder to add the correct path in environment. Something like "bitbake-getvar -r wic-tools PATH" or a bit smarter. But does it make sense? Should we keep this test as-is if wic is no longer part of oe-core? | 14:51 |
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| mathieudb | Or another idea: should scripts/wic be replaced by some magic script instead of being deleted? So "wic" command is still provided to users | 14:52 |
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| tlwoerner | mathieudb: i'm not overly fond of your second suggestion. maybe wic should be added to uninative or buildtools? | 15:05 |
| mathieudb | ok, I should probably just add a git clone of the new wic git and add that to the path. Looks like it would be a better option | 15:05 |
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| mathieudb | tlwoerner: hum, maybe. To be honest I'm not really sure what would be better here | 15:06 |
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| qschulz | i haven't followed anything wrt wic, but shouldn't we have a wic-native dependency wherever we want to use wic? | 15:12 |
| qschulz | I'm assuming we may not want to have oe-selftest for wic anymore and migrate those to ptest in wic for example? | 15:12 |
| qschulz | throwing ideas without context, so don't take it too seriously if I'm completely out of topic :) | 15:13 |
| tlwoerner | if a user adds "wic" to IMAGE_FSTYPES and bitbakes an image, then wic will continue to work *by magic* without any changes | 15:15 |
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| tlwoerner | but the vast majority of oe-selftest tests don't use wic by calling bitbake on an image, they invoke wic directly, therefore the setup/teardown routines needed adjustment and many of the tests needed some small tweak | 15:16 |
| tlwoerner | qschulz: i'm not entirely sure how or why this test is failing on the AB because it is not part of the oe-selftests found in oe-core or meta-yocto-bsp | 15:17 |
| mathieudb | tlwoerner: it's just failing because wic is not in the path | 15:17 |
| tlwoerner | on the one hand i would love to delete all the wic oe-selftests from oe-core :-D on the other hand wic doesn't currently have its own test framework so using oe-core for testing wic will probably continue for a little bit anyway | 15:18 |
| mathieudb | tlwoerner: the config I pasted earlier is just the sequence of commands we run, so there is no way it can now where to find wic | 15:18 |
| tlwoerner | mathieudb: yes, and from what i can tell it is another example of invoking wic directly, instead of as part of bitbaking an image | 15:19 |
| tlwoerner | so that's why the *magic* didn't happen ;-) | 15:19 |
| mathieudb | tlwoerner: yes, definitely | 15:19 |
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| mathieudb | tlwoerner: so we just have to decide if we want to keep these tests mostly as-is, and if it's the case, what would be the best solution to invoke wic from here | 15:20 |
| tlwoerner | qschulz: but going forward, it might be in oe-core's best interest to keep some wic oe-sefltests so it can convince itself that wic is still working the way it expects it to work (?) | 15:21 |
| tlwoerner | mathieudb: i have next to no experience with the AB, maybe halstead would have an opinion? | 15:21 |
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| mathieudb | tlwoerner: well, the AB side I can handle, but I need your opinion on the best way we should adapt the test | 15:22 |
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| mathieudb | tlwoerner: if an user would like to run the said commands, what would be the best way to invoke wic in your opinion? | 15:23 |
| mathieudb | tlwoerner: fetching wic git? | 15:23 |
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| tlwoerner | oh... in that case, using a python venv | 15:23 |
| tlwoerner | $ mkdir native-wic; cd native-wic | 15:25 |
| tlwoerner | $ git clone git://git.yoctoproject.org/wic | 15:25 |
| tlwoerner | $ python3 -m venv wic.venv | 15:25 |
| tlwoerner | $ . wic.venv/bin/activate | 15:25 |
| tlwoerner | $ cd wic | 15:25 |
| tlwoerner | $ pip install . | 15:26 |
| tlwoerner | perhaps it would be best to use the commit that is used in the oe-core wic recipe? | 15:27 |
| tlwoerner | if all the ABs use the buildtools tarball, that would probably be the best place that i can think of | 15:27 |
| mathieudb | tlwoerner: ok, makes sense. I will try to modify the builder config in that way | 15:27 |
| mathieudb | tlwoerner: we are not using buildtools everywhere iirc | 15:28 |
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| qschulz | tlwoerner: wic will be a simple package recipe, so this is the kind of thing that needs to be handled by the wic package recipe via ptest. If you need to check whether IMAGE_FSTYPES wic and the various configuration settings work, then in oe-selftest I guess but then you bake an image with IMAGE_FSTYPES and not call wic directly? | 15:32 |
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| tlwoerner | qschulz: agreed! and there are a couple tests in oe-selftest that do exactly that | 15:35 |
| agodard | mathieudb: can't you use 'oe-run-native wic-native wic ...'? | 15:36 |
| mathieudb | agodard: I had absolutely no idea this command existed, let me try :) | 15:38 |
| agodard | mathieudb: you have to 'bitbake wic-native -cadd_to_recipe_sysroot' beforehand, IIRC | 15:38 |
| mathieudb | agodard: yes, it did complain at first :) | 15:39 |
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| tlwoerner | that's a good idea, and it will use the wic version that oe-core is using | 15:41 |
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| mathieudb | tlwoerner: "wic.WicError: BitBake environment not provided. Run 'bitbake -c rootfs_wicenv <image>' and pass --vars /path/to/<image>.env to wic." | 15:47 |
| mathieudb | tlwoerner: so I believe it works, but I have to fix the command | 15:48 |
| mathieudb | https://autobuilder.yoctoproject.org/valkyrie/#/builders/15/builds/3192 | 15:48 |
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| tlwoerner | mathieudb: oh yes, for the "wic create" and "wic list" subcommands you need to pass in an environment file (generated with -c rootfs_wicenv) | 15:48 |
| tlwoerner | the other wic subcommands can work without the environment file | 15:49 |
| tlwoerner | (which is what the "re-implement sector-size handling" patch is fixing | 15:49 |
| tlwoerner | ) | 15:49 |
| tlwoerner | mathieudb: specify the environment file to the "wic create" command via the "-v|--vars <file>" cmdline arg | 15:51 |
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| mathieudb | tlwoerner: yes, I'm working on it. Your error message was great to explain what was wrong :) | 15:52 |
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| tlwoerner | :-) i expect some people will probably experience a "speed bump" with the switch-over. hopefully not many, and hopefully the messages will help | 16:01 |
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| agodard | tlwoerner: you are welcome to write-up a migration guide to soften the speed bump in https://docs.yoctoproject.org/dev/migration-guides/migration-6.0.html ;) | 16:06 |
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| mathieudb | so now it can't find parted, but parted-native should be there :( "Please make sure wic-tools have parted-native in its DEPENDS, build it with 'bitbake wic-tools' and try again." | 16:31 |
| mathieudb | oh wait, it did succeed on genericx86 | 16:33 |
| mathieudb | hum, so qemu ones are failing, but I don't know why https://autobuilder.yoctoproject.org/valkyrie/#/builders/15/builds/3195 | 16:35 |
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| tlwoerner | mathieudb: i've stumbled on this working with the oe-selftests, there's an inconsistency with how wic looks for helpers | 17:00 |
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| mathieudb | tlwoerner: it looks like the RECIPE_SYSROOT_NATIVE in my env folder points to a sysroot where parted is indeed missing | 17:07 |
| mathieudb | for qemu images only | 17:07 |
| mathieudb | tlwoerner: but I'm not sure what I should do about it | 17:07 |
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| tlwoerner | sorry, i got interrupted by a call. yea sometimes wic will call helpers using exec_cmd() and other times it will use exec_native_cmd() | 17:22 |
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| tlwoerner | when it uses exec_native_cmd() it will only look for those helpers in the native sysroot, so that value has to be setup properly in the --vars file and populated fully | 17:23 |
| tlwoerner | i don't know that there's an easy way to fix this for the test on the AB | 17:24 |
| tlwoerner | it's literally on my todo list for things to investigate in wic, maybe i'll need to investigate sooner rather than later | 17:24 |
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| mathieudb | tlwoerner: ok, thanks. I have to leave now, I will try to come with a solution tomorrow | 17:28 |
| mathieudb | thanks for your help | 17:28 |
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| tlwoerner | thank you for digging deeper! | 17:32 |
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