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LetoThe2ndroussinm: sure, if it fits your requirements, then why not :-) What I'm trying to say is that products can have very different needs. A classic example is "needs to be usable also without internet connectivity right after unboxing". this means you need to  have everything provisioned at manufacturing floor. and on the other end "we expect users to update to latest right after unboxing", in which case it might even be good enough04:53
LetoThe2ndto just ship a loader. then there's cases where a base container is baked in, and only higher layers are shipped later, or... or...04:53
LetoThe2ndroussinm: the software build and deployment processes must match your requirements, and not necessarily the "best practices" of some random dude on the internet (like me)04:54
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Guest80Hi everyone,06:28
Guest80I know this is mainly a technical channel but I would really appreciate some advice from people here. Please DM me so we don't spam the main chat.06:28
Guest80I'm trying to understand the current market for embedded C/C++ and embedded Linux engineers with around 3–5 years of experience, especially for remote roles at US startups(Edge AI, Cloud AI, Drones, etc.) while living in Europe or the Balkans. What salary ranges or hourly rates are common these days? Also, for contract-to-hire roles, what should06:28
Guest80I watch out for? Personal experiences would be very helpful. Thanks!06:28
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paulbarkertlwoerner: Should we add a wic subproject on bugzilla? I want to track somewhere that we should rename the .env files to something more clearly wic related, probably .wicenv12:45
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roussinmLetoThe2nd: interesting we don't have requirements per say. I have a green field for yocto. Client unboxing the product can use the product right there, but to upload the data that it captures it will need internet. We are still in the process of exploring if we either do a full image update or do use modules for the containers.13:17
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RPpaulbarker: you said " paulbarker: d41d8cd98f00b204e9800998ecf8427e is not the md5sum of any machconfig file" - it is, oe-core$ md5sum ./meta/recipes-bsp/formfactor/files/machconfig13:20
RPd41d8cd98f00b204e9800998ecf8427e  ./meta/recipes-bsp/formfactor/files/machconfig13:20
RPit is the general non-machine specific fallback one13:20
paulbarkerAh, that's me being stupid. I did md5sum meta/recipes-bsp/formfactor/files/*/machconfig13:20
RPpaulbarker: right, I just thought I'd mention it since I realised13:21
RPpaulbarker: there is not one for qemuarm64 so it probably hints it was that13:22
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tlwoernerpaulbarker: that would be nice (having a wic subproject on bugzilla)17:32
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tgamblinrburton: jonmason: do either of you know why "acpi" is in the genericarm64 MACHINE_FEATURES? The docs say (correctly, I think) that it's for x86 only17:36
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jonmasontgamblin: I'd need to refresh my memory, but I think there is an interaction in the kernel configs with EFI17:57
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fraymy memeory was ACPI is not x86 only.  There are some ARM systems where it exists as well.  If the system doesn't have ACPI it does nothing, but EFI (firmware) may require it for the interrupt mapping..18:01
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TartarusYeah, ACPI is not x86-only and genericarm64 (And qemu in general) can be used in SBSA-compliant mode where you get UEFI+ACPI like you expect on modern x86-64 machines.18:32
Tartarus(Funny enough in theory you could toss u-boot in to the mix there too and still get compliant mode, but that's very much a tangent for this channel :))18:32
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tgamblinjonmason: fray: Tartarus: thanks for your feedback, that clarifies things (I saw it earlier and got confused) :)18:49
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RP_tgamblin: the hard part is agreeing the spec and what it is to support...21:30
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