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| landgraf | RP: I've reverted a82590d57 and 0415a0065 (bitbake repo, git fetcher temp dir handling) and build completed in 20mins (as usual). with those two commits back the build stuck for 4+ hours (gitlab worker timeout). tried few times - same result | 06:45 |
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| jclsn | Good morning guys | 07:45 |
| jclsn | Is there a way to get a dependency graph in JSON format without having to use bitbake locally? Some online database you can curl? | 07:47 |
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| jclsn | I currently only see bitbake -g which dumps the dependency repcie names to pn-buildlist. I would need something more detailed in JSON format with SRC_URIs, versions or reference numbers | 07:52 |
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| kanavin | jclsn, you need to explain what you actually are trying to do | 07:55 |
| kanavin | because the answer to the specific question is no, but if you explain the problem, the answer is likely 'here's how you can do it differently' | 07:55 |
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| jclsn | kanavin: Well, in my current company applications need to undergo a complex process to get clearance. We are currently testing a tool that curls dependency graphs from the NPMJS REST API. You basically give it a name of a package, it lists you the all dependencies including versions and get an overview. This is quite easy for javascript packages as all the information can be curled. For Yocto this | 08:00 |
| jclsn | depends of course on the composition of layers, which might be custom, so I guess it is hard to have an online database. This would definitely be possible for specific releases of Yocto, but then it also depends from which layer you pull in a package. Might be oe-core or meta-custom, so I guess eventually it would have to be done locally with bitbake. | 08:00 |
| jclsn | It would be fine to e.g. checkout the latest walnascar release, execute some command like bitbake -g busybox and get a dependecny graph in JSON format to process | 08:02 |
| jclsn | An online database would always be preferred though | 08:02 |
| landgraf | jclsn: layers, packageconfigs, distro_features, even local.conf modification affect the deps graph | 08:02 |
| jclsn | landgraf: Yeah so it would have to be done locally | 08:03 |
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| jclsn | The problem is that the pn-buildlist is not detailed enough and that task-depends.dot is too detailed ^^ | 08:06 |
| jclsn | I could of course parse those, but would assume bitbake is already capable of providing other outputs | 08:07 |
| jclsn | or other formats | 08:07 |
| landgraf | jclsn: what about task-depends ? | 08:09 |
| landgraf | it's in dot format and you can use existing tooling to parse it | 08:09 |
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| landgraf | jclsn: after build is done there's spdx also | 08:10 |
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| mcfrisk | jclsn: you likely need runtime dependencies, not build time ones because not all dependencies are there. Thus buildhistory, manifest files or binary package analysis. I presume clearance is for product based on images, not meta layer and recipes for someone else to create products with. | 08:25 |
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| mcfrisk | and of course, SPDX | 08:25 |
| jclsn | landgraf: Waiting for a build takes too long | 08:25 |
| mcfrisk | jclsn: IMO you need the build if your product is the output of the build | 08:26 |
| jclsn | mcfrisk: It would have to be DEPENDS and RDEPENDS. The build is not necessary. | 08:29 |
| jclsn | I think I can work with task-depends.dot. It can then lead me to the .bb files I can parse | 08:30 |
| mcfrisk | oh yes it is, many of the RDEPENDS are detected after build completes | 08:30 |
| jmd | Has anyone yet found a use for SPDX? | 08:32 |
| mcfrisk | license compliance, security vuln analysis, all these require build output in form of SPDX, image manifest files and/or buildhistory | 08:32 |
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| jmd | Yeah I've heard the rhetoric, but how does one use it? | 08:33 |
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| mcfrisk | SPDX is IMO just a standard for IT departments and compliance processes, but not at all useful for actual yocto based product distro maintainers | 08:33 |
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| neverpanic | I've seen it used at BMW for license compliance | 08:34 |
| jmd | neverpanic: What tools do they use? | 08:35 |
| mcfrisk | but was it actualy useful... compared to manually checking image manifests, buildhistory, cve-check data | 08:35 |
| jmd | Anyway the vibes I'm hearing is that Bayerische Mist Wagen are laying off all their engineers. | 08:36 |
| mcfrisk | well Germany and automotive and these trying times... | 08:37 |
| jmd | ... Webasto is about to go into receivership I think ... | 08:39 |
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| jclsn | So I guess I want to parse an SPDX file and not the task-depends.dot | 08:40 |
| mcfrisk | jclsn: yes, or image manifest files for effective list of binary packages, or buildhistory which has .dot files for images with RDEPENDS of the full image recipe, with or without kernel | 08:42 |
| jclsn | Is Yocto pulling from a global sstate-cache these days? I just built the poky wrynose and not a single package was compiled :D | 08:45 |
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| jclsn | or bitbake I should say | 08:46 |
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| mcfrisk | depends how the build was setup and if meta/conf/fragments/yocto/sstate-mirror-cdn.conf was applied or not | 08:49 |
| jclsn | Yeah, I used the default build with fragments | 09:09 |
| jclsn | mcfrisk: What is the best tool to parse the SPDX files? | 09:10 |
| jclsn | It seems like it is a standardized format so there must be tooling for this I reckon | 09:10 |
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| neverpanic | I'm no longer working there, but I'd have heard if they laid off all the engineers working on this, so I'd call BS on that claim. | 09:40 |
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| rburton | khem: can we get your ack/nak on the gcc16 series please | 14:41 |
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| khem | I will look at the final patch series today I was not sure if its building ok on AB yet | 14:43 |
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| marex | khem: hey, do you plan to create wrynose branch in meta-clang ? | 15:13 |
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| rburton | does meta-clang still have stuff in? | 15:39 |
| rburton | oh look i have a local commit that deletes a lot of stuff from meta-clang that i failed to post | 15:40 |
| agodard | khem: it went fine on my branch on the AB | 15:41 |
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| paulbarker | rburton: there was a patch sent for the premirror redirection to another git repo | 15:53 |
| rburton | ah | 15:53 |
| paulbarker | Let me see if I can find it... | 15:53 |
| rburton | i made it work by adding BASENAME to the map but that changes the name of the tarball which isn't exactly what i expected | 15:53 |
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| khem | agodard: cool ok I will take final look at it today | 15:55 |
| paulbarker | rburton: https://lore.kernel.org/bitbake-devel/dd8c10dda0eec610d1084a92fa383fecee45c67a.camel@pbarker.dev/, it needed rework but I hope they come back with a v2 | 15:56 |
| khem | marex: yes. Thanks for reminding | 15:57 |
| rburton | paulbarker: interesting thanks | 15:57 |
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| rburton | hm i appear to be seeing rebuilds if i nuke my tmp/ | 16:10 |
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| angolini | Is toaster ready for Wrynose? I could not wrap my mind around how to make toaster "see" the metalayers and the documentation seems to use directory "poky" | 17:07 |
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| marex | khem: thank you | 17:10 |
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| angolini | ok, BBLAYERS inside the build-toaster folder I made points to `...bitbake-builds/poky-wrynose/layers/openembedded-core/meta`, but the error I get when I try to build something on the web tries to fetch it from `....bitbake-builds/poky-wrynose/layers/meta` (from toaster docs, it's still using the schema from poky, so you have to source oe-init-build-env from inside poky directory) | 18:06 |
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| angolini | i understand toaster and bitbake-setup has different ways to do things, but how do I let toaster know where exactly is my "local copy"? (If I try to delete the compatible layers and add them again from dir I cannot because they are speciall???) | 18:08 |
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| Guest67-neutron | Hello all, Im working on a Yocto baseline comming from a Qualcomm based product (a 5G modem SOC). This baseline is compiling the kernel outside Yocto and is breaking the SSTATE reuse. I was wondering if this is a common issue with Qualcomm releases and if there is some suggestion on how can we inprove this issue? | 18:11 |
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| angolini | Guest67-neutron: I would open an issue under meta-qcom because the answer to your question depend on what version you are using | 18:15 |
| Guest67-neutron | Thanks for the suggestion | 18:16 |
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| angolini | I tested using poky-master and the same error (toaster not finding where `meta` layer is). the wiki page points to a 404 mailing list (toaster mailing list), I could not find this bug in bugzilla. Which mailing list I use to ask for Toaster help? | 18:53 |
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| RP | landgraf: are you using shallow tarball clones? | 19:11 |
| RP | landgraf: I don't know why those patches would break anything :( | 19:11 |
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