Tuesday, 2021-08-10

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Jin^eLDregarding the new syntax... when I for instance have (in my distro conf) PACKAGECONFIG_pn-gpsd = "usb" - does it become PACKAGECONFIG:pn-gpsd? or is the colon only for append/prepend/remove/machine override?14:40
Jin^eLDI am generally a bit confused when to use : and when not14:58
Jin^eLDfor instance, this should use the colon, right? TF_A_CONFIG:pn-tf-a-stm32mp = "trusted"14:58
Jin^eLDbut this shouldnt? TF_A_CONFIG_serialboot = "AARCH32_SP=sp_min"14:59
kergothyes, : is for any overrides usage, not just append/prepend16:07
kergothif the var is used directly, not via overrides, then you shouldn't switch it16:07
Jin^eLDso the second case is correct as it is? i.e. TF_A_CONFIG_serialboot = "blah" is fine?16:10
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Jin^eLDto be honest I liked the previous way better, it was just always an underscore, no way to mess up :)16:17
Jin^eLDnow if you get it wrong somehwere - you get totally unexpected results or errors which are not easy to track down16:18
Jin^eLDand then you realize, ah crap, that should have been a colon!16:18
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tlwoernerJin^eLD: maybe this helps? https://git.yoctoproject.org/cgit/cgit.cgi/yocto-docs/tree/documentation/migration-guides/migration-3.4.rst18:16
Jin^eLDtlwoerner: i indeed does, thank you!18:17
kergothJin^eLD: I think it's better to be explicit about when overrides is in use, as then it's more clear how it'll interact with other overrides, etc. more explicit. to each their own, though :)18:18
tlwoernerit acknowledges the lack of consistency… which is one of the reasons for the change18:18
kergothyeah, makes it clear now. and we can now to fix the casest hat really should be using overrides but aren't right now18:19
kergoths/to/go/18:19
Jin^eLDI am not saying there were no valid reasons to change this, I am only saying I wish it would be easier to catch user mistakes18:24
Jin^eLDI keep finding variables I forgot to update18:24
Jin^eLDand nothing in the build complains18:24
Jin^eLDand then I spot, oh, that did not get properly configured, ah, because I forgot the colon18:24
Jin^eLD:P18:24
Jin^eLDbut finding it is not so easy18:25
kergothhmm, yeah, it'd be nice to have a pre and post metadata comparison against each, somehow. would have to forcibly inject each override, though, and not all would cooperate18:25
kergothfor example, if it's a machine specific one, you might not have that bsp layer enabled right now, and injecting it might break the parse in other places18:25
Jin^eLDor some conversion checker or something18:25
kergothit wouldn't be able to know which is an override and which isn't18:25
kergoththere's no way to know what word happens to be a real machine in some other layer and what isn't18:26
kergothgiven there's no list of available ones beyond the layer index..18:26
kergothcertain cases could presumably be checked, but it'd be a lot of assumptions18:26
kergothbrittle18:26
Jin^eLDthen I guess there is no "easy way" around it18:26
Jin^eLDI just fear I did not notice something that will burn my ass later :)18:27
kergothif it's your layer, it shouldn't be hard to use bitbake -e to confirm expected values18:27
Jin^eLDI have a stripped down openstlinux inbetween18:28
Jin^eLDand that one defines stuff all over the place, I think I should strip it down even more18:29
Jin^eLDST tries to provide all possible configurations within one recipe and that just makes the recipes really convoluted18:29
kergothoof, that's hard to maintain18:30
Jin^eLDit is... so took me a while to convert all those TF_A_something variations18:31
Jin^eLDI kept missing stuff18:31
Jin^eLDbut I think I get the idea, the link from tlwoerner was helpful18:32
Jin^eLDnot sure why I did not find the migration guide on my own18:32
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