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| Crofton | moving forward with the new syntax, what older layers will support the new syntax? | 14:07 |
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| smurray | Crofton: s/layers/branches/, you mean? | 14:12 |
| Crofton | yeah | 14:12 |
| Crofton | :) | 14:12 |
| smurray | Crofton: I asked about oe-core on the YPTM call, there are currently no plans there | 14:13 |
| Crofton | hm, OK | 14:13 |
| Crofton | mostly trying to set layer compat correctly | 14:14 |
| smurray | Crofton: my guess is most layers with few updates will not do it. We're thinking of doing so for the AGL layers, but on the call it didn't sound like too many other folks were | 14:15 |
| mrnuke | Hi, has anyone tried a gitlab-ci build where SRC_URI points to a private gitlab project? | 14:17 |
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| Crofton | le me rephrase, which layers are compatible with the new syntax? | 15:11 |
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| smurray | Crofton: I think at this point all the layers tested by the Yocto autobuilder are done, and a lot of the other commonly used ones seem to be based on my checking layers AGL uses on Friday | 16:02 |
| smurray | Crofton: that's master branches, I've not looked to see if anyone has converted any older branches | 16:03 |
| dl9pf | down to dunfell should at least _accept_ the new syntax as well | 16:04 |
| dl9pf | aka parse it | 16:04 |
| dl9pf | if you want to do multi-branch support layers | 16:04 |
| dl9pf | but thats only true for the tip of dunfell, not 3.1.10 . so hard to tell for a random custom setup. | 16:05 |
| smurray | right, but so far it seems like that may not be a common approach, I've seen at least one instance of a layer getting a new hardknott (iirc) branch for dunfell - hardknott | 16:05 |
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| PPHans | So, quick bitbake question. I have a rather large blob that takes a while to both download and extract. This same blob is used by several recipes, but should not be included in the final filesystem. Is there any nice way to have this download/extract only happen once for all my recipes that use it? | 19:25 |
| LetoThe2nd | PPHans: provide the blob as a -native package and depend on it. | 19:39 |
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| smurray | PPHans: there's a shared source scheme used for e.g. the kernel and gcc, so perhaps look at their recipes (gcc-source for gcc, I believe) | 19:42 |
| LetoThe2nd | smurray: technically i agree, but for a single binary blob i think thats too many hoops to jump through. | 19:45 |
| smurray | LetoThe2nd: I don't necessarily disagree with that, but IMO that's not really what -native recipes are expected to do | 19:48 |
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| smurray | LetoThe2nd: it's probably doable with a target recipe that just downloads the blob and packages it up in foo-dev w/o using -native | 19:49 |
| LetoThe2nd | smurray: even that, yes. but it might end up accidentially packaging the blob multiple times, hence the -native approach. | 19:50 |
| smurray | LetoThe2nd: how? | 19:51 |
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| LetoThe2nd | "the blob is used by" | 19:52 |
| smurray | LetoThe2nd: if the using recipes DEPENDS = "blob" to get blob-dev, I can't see how it'd be packaged more than once? | 19:52 |
| LetoThe2nd | hmm. | 19:52 |
| LetoThe2nd | yeah guess you're right. | 19:53 |
| smurray | LetoThe2nd: it's slightly less efficient in that it'll get packaged at all vs tar'ed for the sysroot, granted | 19:53 |
| LetoThe2nd | i guess the main difference is the usage of the blob in itself. | 19:53 |
| LetoThe2nd | if it is something that is supposed to do something during build, or during runtime. the former, -native. the latter, -dev | 19:54 |
| smurray | yeah, in general I consider -native to be for executable build tools, or stuff to build those | 19:55 |
| smurray | I'm willing to be corrected by someone on that ;) | 19:55 |
| LetoThe2nd | so, as usual: "it depends" :) | 19:55 |
| LetoThe2nd | nah you're totally right. | 19:55 |
| smurray | PPHans: if we've not lost you, perhaps try a recipe to fetch and unpack the blob and tweak ${PN}-dev to include it. You'll likely need to build a path to it from RECIPE_SYSROOT to get at it in the recipes that need it (i.e. DEPENDS on it) | 19:58 |
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| PPHans | I think that makes sense. Is there a hard rule that *-dev packages don't get included in production images? | 20:21 |
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| PPHans | Another minor thing while I'm here. I have a recipe that has a `file://` in it's `SRC_URI`, yet the file does not seem to be present in `WORKDIR`. Anyone have any ideas at what light cause this? | 20:30 |
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| smurray | PPHans: to your first question, no, but that's not the default in e.g. poky | 20:45 |
| smurray | PPHans: no good ideas on the second one other than to perhaps look at the log.do_fetch and see if there's any indication of something failing | 20:45 |
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| PPHans | I am almost certainly doing something pretty stupid here. This is the simplest case I can imagine of using a `file://`, which seems to not work https://gist.github.com/hansihe/3fa4bfca2b790486611e7ee882723374 | 21:30 |
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| paulg | PPHans, who are you expecting to instantiate foobar_file into WORKDIR? | 21:42 |
| paulg | maybe look at https://www.yoctoproject.org/docs/2.5/kernel-dev/kernel-dev.html#creating-the-append-file | 21:45 |
| paulg | even tho you aren't doing kernel ; note the FILESEXTRAPATHS_prepend usage. | 21:46 |
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| PPHans | paulg, I was expecting some bitbake internal magic to do it really, I was going by what I was seeing in other `.bb` recipe files. Doesn't FILESEXTRAPATHS_prepend just change where the file is searched for? bitbake seems to find my file, because if I remove it/rename it, my recipe fails at the earlier fetching step | 21:56 |
| PPHans | I am pretty new to everything here, so my assumptions might be very wrong/naive | 21:57 |
| paulg | well you can do what I do, and start with a known working example, and vandalize/shrink it while watching to ensure you haven't broken it ; vs. starting from scratch and wondering against the infinite possibilities of what you might need to add to it in order for it to work. One path is a finite set; the other is not. | 22:00 |
| paulg | I use the same logic on kernel stuff ; I'd rather try and find the straw that breaks the camel's back vs. build a camel from scratch. | 22:03 |
| smurray | PPHans: it's unpack that puts files in WORKDIR, so by overriding it, you've disabled that | 22:30 |
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| Jin^eLD | I have a weird thing going on with the new overrides and I am not sure if I am doing someting incorrectly or if its something else | 23:45 |
| Jin^eLD | so I have an SRC_URI="xyz" | 23:45 |
| Jin^eLD | then I have a fixed machien override to replace it in case of machine1 is chosen: SRC_URI:machine1 = "abc" | 23:45 |
| Jin^eLD | and then I have another machine that is just supposed to append to the original SRC_URI | 23:45 |
| Jin^eLD | SRC_URI:append:machine2 = "def" | 23:46 |
| Jin^eLD | I am building for machine 2, so I expect SRC_URI to be "xyz def" | 23:46 |
| Jin^eLD | however the machine1 override wins although machine1 is not invoved in the build | 23:46 |
| Jin^eLD | is this a bug? or am I still using the appneds incorrectly? | 23:46 |
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