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| mort | how do you actually depend on a particular step such as do_deploy? | 09:00 |
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| mort | it doesn't work with DEPENDS, but IIRC there's some way to set targets as prerequisites for functions | 09:01 |
| JaMa | do_foo[depends] += "bar.do_deploy" | 09:01 |
| mort | aha | 09:01 |
| JaMa | DEPENDS is kind of shortcut for do_configure[depends] += "deps.do_populate_sysroot" | 09:02 |
| mort | I see | 09:03 |
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| gate32[m] | Hello. Anyone using BeagleBone Black here? | 19:53 |
| gate32[m] | * Hello. Anyone using BeagleBone Black here? | 19:54 |
| LetoThe2nd | gate32[m]: depends, what is your actual question? | 20:15 |
| gate32[m] | LetoThe2nd: I'm just failing to find any recent image to flash... | 20:16 |
| gate32[m] | I want to make a web service on my BBB, but the latest available official debian image uses debian 9 from 2013 or 14 | 20:17 |
| gate32[m] | That's just scary to put on the server | 20:17 |
| gate32[m] | Looking into building my own with buildroot, but I'm very limited on time with this project | 20:18 |
| LetoThe2nd | if "I'm very time limited" means "I just want to copypaste 3 instructions and get what I want, then move on and not care anymore" then, well... OE might not be for you. | 20:22 |
| LetoThe2nd | gate32[m]: michaelo has written a neat quick start for the BBB, which is at https://bootlin.com/blog/yocto-project-quickest-instructions-to-generate-beaglebone-images/ | 20:24 |
| LetoThe2nd | gate32[m]: plus, running OE and friends does not give you a package upstream. so if you care about exactly one device, and you expect something like "apt-get update && apt-get upgrade" to keep it up to date, again... OE might not be for you. | 20:25 |
| LetoThe2nd | gate32[m]: OE shines when you need reproducible build, and when you want license tracing. when you have fleets of often thousands of devices, and maintain those over years and decades. | 20:26 |
| LetoThe2nd | for a single maker board, not so much, sorry. | 20:27 |
| gate32[m] | LetoThe2nd: thank you for a great answer! By OE do you mean this buildroot project? So Yocto would probably be a better fit? | 20:29 |
| LetoThe2nd | gate32[m]: I mean OpenEmbedded ... as you are in the OpenEmbedded channel. | 20:30 |
| LetoThe2nd | gate32[m]: and Yocto is what I meant by "and friends", it technically builds upon OE. | 20:30 |
| gate32[m] | Sorry, I'm just kinda 5 minutes into it all... | 20:31 |
| LetoThe2nd | gate32[m]: :-) | 20:32 |
| gate32[m] | And do I have any other simpler options than Yocto you might suggest? | 20:33 |
| LetoThe2nd | gate32[m]: from the UX, buildroot is already the simplest. and it is de facto also not suitable for your use case. | 20:34 |
| LetoThe2nd | gate32[m]: you can ask in #beagle, maybe somebody knows of a newer debian image. but thats essentially what you seem to want, as this sounds like a one-off-tinkering thing. | 20:35 |
| gate32[m] | I just don't know the alternatives. Well, it's kind of a production thing, so I'm fine with building | 20:36 |
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| gate32[m] | <LetoThe2nd> "gate32: michaelo has written a..." <- Looks simple...) | 20:37 |
| LetoThe2nd | gate32[m]: ... it is but you have an image then without a webserver - and as I said, no package management nor package repositories. | 20:39 |
| gate32[m] | But the repo is not found... | 20:39 |
| gate32[m] | Right... | 20:39 |
| gate32[m] | I've already asked in the beagle group, we'll see | 20:40 |
| gate32[m] | Another complication might be that I actually want a completely free (libre) system there | 20:41 |
| gate32[m] | * LetoThe2nd Another complication | 20:42 |
| LetoThe2nd | gate32[m]: *shrug* | 20:44 |
| gate32[m] | ;) | 20:45 |
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| gate32[m] | I've just found that I was looking in the wrong place on the official site. They have debian 9.9 from 2019 there. Hope it'll be fine updated for now | 21:59 |
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