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| Crofton | Weird: NOTE: recipe libcap-native-2.66-r0: task do_compile: Started | 18:19 |
| Crofton | NOTE: No reply from server in 30s | 18:19 |
| Crofton | Timeout while waiting for a reply from the bitbake server (60s) | 18:19 |
| Crofton | program finished with exit code 1 | 18:19 |
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| Crofton | meta-ti depends on meta-arm! | 20:41 |
| denix | Crofton: https://git.yoctoproject.org/meta-ti/tree/meta-ti-bsp/conf/layer.conf#n18 | 20:42 |
| denix | Crofton: http://layers.openembedded.org/layerindex/branch/master/layer/meta-ti-bsp/ | 20:42 |
| Crofton | I was just amused the stuff needed from meta-arm wasn't just copied over :) | 20:43 |
| Crofton | where does meta-arm live? Certainly not on @jonmason account on github? | 20:45 |
| jonmason | its on git.yp.org | 20:46 |
| jonmason | my github/gitlab is staging for it, and aside from stuff I'm working on, it's the same | 20:46 |
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| denix | Crofton: http://layers.openembedded.org/layerindex/branch/master/layer/meta-arm/ | 20:57 |
| Crofton | yeah, sorted that, but refusing to build for | 20:57 |
| denix | I know layerindex has been neglected (heh, moto-timo isn't here?), but basic stuff like that still works! | 20:57 |
| Crofton | ERROR: OE-core's config sanity checker detected a potential misconfiguration. | 20:57 |
| Crofton | Either fix the cause of this error or at your own risk disable the checker (see sanity.conf). | 20:57 |
| Crofton | Following is the list of potential problems / advisories: | 20:57 |
| Crofton | MACHINE=j721e-evm.conf is invalid. Please set a valid MACHINE in your local.conf, environment or other configuration file. | 20:57 |
| Crofton | clearly my fingers are typing something wrong | 20:58 |
| Crofton | meta-ti-bsp /home/balister/opensdr/test-builds/kirkstone-ti/openembedded-core/../meta-ti/meta-ti-bsp 6 | 20:58 |
| Crofton | from bitbake-layers showlayers | 20:58 |
| Crofton | der | 20:58 |
| Crofton | I am an idiot | 20:59 |
| JaMa | Crofton: remove ".conf" :) | 20:59 |
| moto-timo | denix: I'm not here. | 20:59 |
| Crofton | JaMa: I barely beat you getting there :) | 20:59 |
| Crofton | too much cut/paste | 20:59 |
| denix | moto-timo: sorry, hexchat failed to expand you nick for some reason :) | 20:59 |
| moto-timo | denix: that is because I roled a 42 for stealth. | 21:00 |
| moto-timo | rolled even | 21:00 |
| jonmason | lol | 21:00 |
| jonmason | roll for initiative! | 21:00 |
| moto-timo | um... do I get advantage? | 21:00 |
| moto-timo | because... um... COVID and stuff | 21:00 |
| * moto-timo has spent the last few months catching up on Critical Role YouTube hijinx | 21:01 | |
| moto-timo | denix: meta-arago-distro has a dependency on 'browser-layer', but meta-browser broke out meta-chromium and meta-firefox, so arago needs to pick a specific flavor. | 21:03 |
| * moto-timo ducks | 21:03 | |
| moto-timo | bazinga! | 21:03 |
| denix | moto-timo: I know, but the official TI config pins down to meta-browser before that split... and mostly because there are no release branches. basically, layerindex doesn't work with layers that are "rolling" plus with custom layer setups | 21:05 |
| moto-timo | gee, let me write some psychic code for y'all | 21:05 |
| * moto-timo ducks | 21:06 | |
| moto-timo | ok, I know rburton filed a bug in bugzilla that bitbake isn't psychic? or was that just a threat? | 21:07 |
| rburton | yeah there is a bug | 21:07 |
| moto-timo | psychic isn't in the subject line then... sad. We should fix that in bug triage tomorrow morning. | 21:07 |
| rburton | moto-timo: it was closed https://bugzilla.yoctoproject.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13210 | 21:09 |
| * moto-timo ignores denix eye of sauron and the temple of doom | 21:09 | |
| moto-timo | rburton: ah yes, filters | 21:09 |
| denix | s/psychic/psycho | 21:09 |
| rburton | feel free to mark bugs as duplicates :) | 21:10 |
| Crofton | tips on unwinding this? | 21:10 |
| Crofton | https://www.irccloud.com/pastebin/JebSVtEZ/ | 21:10 |
| moto-timo | https://bugzilla.yoctoproject.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13210#c3 | 21:11 |
| denix | yeah, sounds familiar... | 21:11 |
| denix | Crofton: show me your bblayers.conf | 21:11 |
| moto-timo | Crofton: also, what is in DISTRO_FEATURES | 21:12 |
| rburton | the sooner everyone can just use mesa and friends the better | 21:12 |
| Crofton | https://www.irccloud.com/pastebin/F7mQ0jVR/ | 21:12 |
| Crofton | U told it to use mesa and it builds | 21:12 |
| Crofton | DISTRO_FEATURES:append = " opengl x11" | 21:13 |
| Crofton | distroless build basically | 21:13 |
| moto-timo | ok, that's a low hanging fruit, but it has bit me | 21:13 |
| XorA | nothing like a bit of Black Mesa fun :-D | 21:13 |
| denix | rburton: yeah, welcome to the club, this IMG binary blob business is driving me crazy... | 21:14 |
| moto-timo | denix: the GPU vendor? | 21:14 |
| denix | Crofton: unfortunately, IMG crap in meta-ti only supports EGL/GLES on Wayland/Weston | 21:14 |
| * moto-timo recalls losing ~2 years waiting for BBB GPU support to get simmered on the stove | 21:16 | |
| denix | moto-timo: Imagination Tech | 21:16 |
| moto-timo | denix: that's the one | 21:16 |
| moto-timo | it's good tech, just needs to get on the FOSS train | 21:16 |
| moto-timo | /retract | 21:16 |
| moto-timo | not trying to start a b**ch session | 21:17 |
| denix | Crofton: I'm guessing adding x11 to the distro features pulls full GL somewhere. can you try w/o it? | 21:17 |
| Crofton | ok | 21:17 |
| Crofton | trying to get gqrx going .... | 21:17 |
| moto-timo | hopefully you don't have any "must have x11" apps | 21:17 |
| rburton | denix: ditch img and get a modern mali ;) | 21:18 |
| Crofton | gqrx is on top of qt | 21:18 |
| Crofton | I suck at gui shit still | 21:18 |
| * moto-timo notes that denix has no power over the choices TI makes | 21:18 | |
| denix | moto-timo: well, they started upsteaming their Vulkan driver for the new cores, but that won't fix SGX for now | 21:18 |
| moto-timo | denix: yeah, that was the tingle that made me retract | 21:19 |
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| denix | rburton: I got tons of boards with mali and other graphics... what are you implying? | 21:19 |
| denix | rburton: talk to TI, I guess, I don't work for them | 21:20 |
| rburton | yeah, i know | 21:20 |
| * moto-timo 🍿 at an active #oe | 21:20 | |
| rburton | i've not actually tried, displays are for wimps who can't use ssh, but i'm told that the modern malis are actually well supported with open drivers. there's even co-operation between the mali closed driver teams and the open community | 21:21 |
| moto-timo | we need a plugin to git that emulates ssh | 21:21 |
| moto-timo | never leave git | 21:21 |
| moto-timo | lol | 21:21 |
| Crofton | what rburton says, but demos with screens work better. And we a short demos that work | 21:21 |
| moto-timo | Crofton: screens (and sounds) are a proven traffic attractor | 21:22 |
| Crofton | listening to wireless mikes qith gqrx at dusseldorf was a big hit | 21:22 |
| moto-timo | also, eyeballs | 21:23 |
| moto-timo | put eyeballs on anything and people cannot resist | 21:23 |
| denix | Crofton: was it in Dusseldorf? wow, that was ages ago! | 21:24 |
| moto-timo | rburton: did you see my response to the thread about UNKNOWN-0.0.0.whl? can you believe it was lack of PEP-621 support? curses | 21:24 |
| denix | heh, Dusseldorf was about 9 years ago... ages! | 21:25 |
| Crofton | tanking opengl and x11 from distro features and something is building, annoyingly I do not have the actual evm, only an bone ai with no bsp to use | 21:26 |
| moto-timo | there are probably still some erroneous dependencies on x11... so 1991 | 21:27 |
| moto-timo | we had a lot of x11 distro feature dependency creep back in the dark ages | 21:27 |
| Crofton | yeah this line was created in the dark ages | 21:28 |
| Crofton | we need an intro to how soc graphics work for dummies used to ssh and serial ports | 21:30 |
| Crofton | and how it interacts with your build | 21:32 |
| moto-timo | and then an intro into why you aren't going to run ubuntu on that environment | 21:38 |
| moto-timo | s/aren't going to/do not want to/ | 21:39 |
| moto-timo | the other end of the spectrum | 21:40 |
| Crofton | anyone have a j271e-evm borad? | 21:42 |
| denix | Crofton: I don't have the EVM, but I do have couple derivatives | 21:43 |
| * moto-timo realizes denix definitely has more boards | 21:45 | |
| Crofton | do you ahve an rtl-sdr dongle? | 21:45 |
| denix | Crofton: yeah, I do have that one too, USB one | 21:45 |
| Crofton | I think you did at some point, and have run gqrx in the past | 21:45 |
| Crofton | Do you mind trying some images if I get them to build | 21:46 |
| denix | moto-timo: what I don't have is lots of time to play with those!!! | 21:46 |
| moto-timo | denix: same same. sigh | 21:46 |
| * moto-timo moved houses and still has not set up "the lab" | 21:46 | |
| denix | Crofton: I guess I could try that... | 21:47 |
| Crofton | lets me see what I get built | 21:47 |
| Crofton | and send me a machine name that works in kirkstone | 21:47 |
| * moto-timo resists trolling | 21:48 | |
| * Crofton slaps moto-timo with a trout | 21:48 | |
| Crofton | best stand demo we ever did was gqrx on minnow and beaglex15 or so | 21:49 |
| Crofton | easy to explain same layers except for bsp layer | 21:49 |
| * moto-timo sends Crofton a sheep | 21:50 | |
| Crofton | gets out his sheep gloves | 21:50 |
| moto-timo | Crofton: that is an excellent demo idea... (at one point I remember being able to change "one line" in local.conf and everything worked) | 21:51 |
| denix | Crofton: was it RPi and X15? maybe Minnow too... but the message was really great for OE with "just replace the BSP"! | 21:51 |
| Crofton | well two bsps in one set of layers that would be a stretch goal | 21:51 |
| Crofton | maybe e300 | 21:51 |
| Crofton | I know I had a minnow running at some point | 21:51 |
| Crofton | I avoided poiting out how much better it perfromed :) | 21:52 |
| Crofton | anyway, this image has suffered from neglect, trying to sort that now | 21:52 |
| denix | well, offloading to DSP would have been a great next target... | 21:53 |
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| Crofton | we need interns | 21:54 |
| denix | but the demo had SDR running on ARM and RPi3 was 64-bit Cortex-A53 while Beagle-X15 was an old 32-bit Cortex-A15... :) | 21:54 |
| moto-timo | offloading to DSP and PRU | 21:55 |
| moto-timo | PRU is amazing for tiny chunks of work | 21:55 |
| moto-timo | so now it should be RPi4 and BBAI-64? | 21:59 |
| moto-timo | and maybe throw a RISC-V in there to throw some ice in the laps of the hype | 21:59 |
| * moto-timo wishes RISC-V wasn't the losing horse | 22:00 | |
| Crofton | need real vector risc-v hardware | 22:02 |
| moto-timo | make it so | 22:02 |
| moto-timo | can we just do that at one of the "free" foundries? | 22:02 |
| moto-timo | I don't care if it's 1 micron node | 22:03 |
| moto-timo | OpenEmbedded 5.0: our own silicon | 22:03 |
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| Crofton | urg thoughts on this? | 22:10 |
| Crofton | ERROR: Nothing PROVIDES 'ti-k3-secdev-native' (but mc:k3r5:/home/balister/opensdr/test-builds/kirkstone-ti/openembedded-core/../meta-ti/meta-ti-bsp/recipes-bsp/ti-sci-fw/ti-sci-fw_git.bb DEPENDS on or otherwise requires it). Close matches: | 22:10 |
| Crofton | makedevs-native | 22:10 |
| Crofton | ERROR: Required build target 'ti-sci-fw' has no buildable providers. | 22:10 |
| Crofton | Missing or unbuildable dependency chain was: ['ti-sci-fw', 'ti-k3-secdev-native'] | 22:10 |
| Crofton | meta-ti-extras? | 22:10 |
| denix | Crofton: well, yeah. but you don't need HS stuff... | 22:16 |
| denix | Crofton: this is being resolved now, but since you only need GP, you can just set a dummy TI_SECURE_DEV_PKG_K3 in your local.conf | 22:19 |
| Crofton | ah, I added extras | 22:24 |
| Crofton | what is GP? | 22:24 |
| Crofton | er HS | 22:25 |
| denix | GP = general purpose, HS = High Security | 22:25 |
| Crofton | how you you set a dummy? | 22:26 |
| denix | just set TI_SECURE_DEV_PKG_K3=blah | 22:26 |
| denix | basically, HS means secure boot, TPM, everything is encrypted and so on | 22:27 |
| Crofton | ok | 22:27 |
| Crofton | thanks | 22:27 |
| denix | if you add meta-ti-extras, it will satisfy the dependency, but will result in no-security anyway, so should be fine as well | 22:29 |
| Crofton | what else is in extras? | 22:29 |
| Crofton | look slike a multiconfig build even | 22:30 |
| denix | well, multiconfig is standard for all TI 64-bit platforms, so that is in meta-ti-bsp | 22:34 |
| denix | meta-ti-extras is really for non-BSP stuff, like extra firmwares for DSP and other HW-accel cores... | 22:35 |
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| Crofton | but useful stuff just not critical to boot? | 22:43 |
| denix | correct | 22:54 |
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| Crofton | Why would I have added this to images? | 23:52 |
| Crofton | xserver-xorg-extension-glx | 23:52 |
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