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| shoragan | Crofton, do you know if there will be a OE or Yocto event colocated with EOSS/ELCE? https://events.linuxfoundation.org/embedded-open-source-summit/features/co-located-events/ | 15:54 |
| Crofton | lol | 15:54 |
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| Crofton | I just got off the advocacy call and there will be one on Monday | 15:54 |
| shoragan | \o/ | 15:55 |
| Crofton | let me triple check (as in call just ended) | 15:55 |
| Crofton | I assume you are working on travel plans? | 15:55 |
| shoragan | yes. some of us planned with co-located events out of habit, but so far only a xen summit is announced :) | 15:56 |
| Crofton | I am going to see what we can get announced early so people can work on travel | 15:57 |
| Crofton | Very high probability I will be there, want to go to Austria caving afterwrds | 15:58 |
| shoragan | sounds good :) | 15:58 |
| Crofton | and Sandy is going to be there before, I need to move to EU for the summer | 15:58 |
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| Crofton | any word on videos? | 16:00 |
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| shoragan | Crofton, too busy, sorry. I took a quick look and they seem fine. The lapel mic audio is good | 16:01 |
| Crofton | good | 16:01 |
| Crofton | don't do a dusseldorf | 16:01 |
| Crofton | :) | 16:01 |
| shoragan | :) | 16:01 |
| shoragan | we've got several backup | 16:01 |
| shoragan | If someone else would like to do the postprocessing, I won't mind :) | 16:04 |
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| marex | Crofton: I am also working on travel plans | 16:12 |
| Crofton | You can bicycle to the event? | 16:13 |
| Crofton | :) | 16:13 |
| marex | Crofton: and die in the process ? thanks but no thanks ;-) | 16:13 |
| Crofton | Think of the Carbon! | 16:13 |
| marex | Crofton: *ahem* | 16:15 |
| marex | Crofton: it isn't in the Hilton btw , which ... sigh | 16:15 |
| Crofton | What is the place they are having it like? | 16:16 |
| LetoThe2nd | Crofton: isn't it the 2011 place? | 16:40 |
| Crofton | I do not think so | 16:41 |
| LetoThe2nd | :-( | 16:41 |
| Crofton | I think it was here: https://goo.gl/maps/mTkj6jCfkhkFrMwR6 | 16:43 |
| LetoThe2nd | yes. so its something else? | 16:45 |
| Crofton | https://goo.gl/maps/XVK1iGbRPcTMY7oE7 | 16:46 |
| LetoThe2nd | thx | 16:46 |
| Crofton | Marex is worried it is to far for him to travel! | 16:46 |
| marex | LetoThe2nd: I _think_ the previous ELCE was in the Hilton , i.e here https://goo.gl/maps/ffFb9XC8nRSXi49x5 | 16:48 |
| marex | LetoThe2nd: the current one is in congress center or whatever they call it now, it is on the subway line C (red) | 16:48 |
| marex | LetoThe2nd: so ... it shouldn't be hard to reach ... | 16:48 |
| LetoThe2nd | k thx | 16:49 |
| JaMa | true 2011 was in Hilton | 16:54 |
| JaMa | hmm weird my registraion e-mail says 2011 was Clarion and 2017 was Hilton | 17:04 |
| Crofton | pretty sure 2017 was Hilton | 17:05 |
| Crofton | Prague I was at Clarion, Prague II at Hilton | 17:06 |
| Crofton | JaMa: we should have another carting outing | 17:06 |
| JaMa | right, my old memory just dropped everything older than ~ 2015 | 17:06 |
| JaMa | Crofton: I've just asked Korean friends if someone wants to break another one :) | 17:07 |
| Crofton | lolz | 17:08 |
| Crofton | What woulod it cost to rent the place for an evening I wonder? | 17:08 |
| JaMa | 800USD/hour in evening 7-10PM | 17:10 |
| JaMa | w/o VAT | 17:10 |
| Crofton | hmmm | 17:11 |
| Crofton | Does that include food and drink? | 17:12 |
| JaMa | no, just 60 reservations in the pub | 17:13 |
| JaMa | https://pragaarena.cz/en/pricelist/ | 17:13 |
| JaMa | and these are the gas go-carts, the place with electric ones doesn't have the price with excluded public online (or I don't see it) | 17:14 |
| marex | JaMa: send them an email ? :) | 17:17 |
| Crofton | need to convince LF events to ahve a carting event :) | 17:17 |
| JaMa | marex: I don't think it will be significantly cheaper and IMHO not worth 800USD/hour unless we can keep all 20 carts used for whole time | 17:19 |
| JaMa | or even 30 carts in https://www.cmkarting.cz/en/price-list | 17:20 |
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| moto-timo | JaMa: lol... no more crashes please ;) | 17:44 |
| Crofton | https://twitter.com/embedded_iot/status/1628102146796158985?s=20 | 18:42 |
| Crofton | Maybe we should deliberately break something and see how many people complain? | 18:42 |
| marex | well meta-mono , uh | 18:45 |
| zwelch | Crofton: Add a new recipe to IMAGE_INSTALL that fetches a small file from a server you can monitor (perhaps only if SOME_NEW_FLAG is enabled); monitor the server for attempted fetches.... And, ta-da, you have (opt-in) telemetry for an OE layer. | 18:52 |
| Crofton | :) | 18:52 |
| Crofton | We have had instrumentation discussions over the years | 18:52 |
| marex | I can see the articles ... "OE is the new Linux spyware" | 19:00 |
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| zwelch | marex: That is the other side of that coin, yes. Definitely not saying that it'd be a good idea, just that it's easy to do. :) | 19:28 |
| marex | zwelch: yup :) | 19:28 |
| marex | zwelch: and sadly, so easy to extend and misuse afterward Y_Y | 19:28 |
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| Crofton | NOt being able to measure accurately what is used makes our work tougher | 20:19 |
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| khem | ```text | 22:29 |
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