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| Crofton | halstead: any idea if people use the web interface for groups.io? | 13:22 |
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| yocton | Crofton: I usually reference a mail by its URL on https://lists.yoctoproject.org (And IIRC, the registering process is on the web?) | 14:26 |
| Crofton | Yes, I am curious if people follow lists directly via web interface though and diable email delivery | 14:27 |
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| KanjiMonster | Crofton: does being subscribed with no email delivery to be able to send in the odd patch count? | 15:13 |
| Crofton | "Sort off" | 15:13 |
| Crofton | :) but good point | 15:13 |
| KanjiMonster | I might also use the web interface to check that there isn't already a patch submission for the issue I'm trying to fix | 15:15 |
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| jstephan | RP: I am looking at a way to display a warning message for task that are locked | 15:35 |
| jstephan | RP: for now I am using SIGGEN_LOCKEDSIGS_TASKSIG_CHECK = "warn" | 15:35 |
| jstephan | which warn only if there is a mismatch | 15:35 |
| jstephan | I am wondering if adding a new level such as info --> SIGGEN_LOCKEDSIGS_TASKSIG_CHECK = "info" | 15:36 |
| jstephan | that would display a warning in case of mismatch but also in case of match would be an acceptable solution? | 15:36 |
| jstephan | RP: it can be quite verbose though ... | 15:38 |
| RP | jstephan: we may need to improve that whole code area but that sounds like the right place to be thinking about changes | 15:38 |
| RP | jstephan: somehow we need to make sure the user is aware but not overwhelm them with info | 15:38 |
| jstephan | RP: what about a warning at the begining of parsing if bblock.conf is present? | 15:39 |
| RP | jstephan: too generic, I think it needs to be more detailed than that... | 15:40 |
| jstephan | RP: fair enought :) | 15:40 |
| RP | jstephan: this is an idea where we really need to work out what the output needs to look like, then work back to an implementation | 15:40 |
| RP | s/idea/area/ | 15:41 |
| jstephan | RP: ok, can I help on this? should we open a bugzila? | 15:41 |
| yocton | Crofton: Another data point : I happen to push patches from teammates. While I'm subscribed to mails, the teammates usually check the web interface to see if there are reviews. | 15:42 |
| RP | jstephan: well, it is a case of someone doing the work! :) | 15:44 |
| * JaMa is now overwhelmed (in a good way) with Presure notifications very often triggering CPU and never Mem or IO | 15:47 | |
| RP | JaMa: I did wonder about those logs messages :/ | 15:47 |
| RP | JaMa: I am kind of happier knowing what is going on that not though | 15:48 |
| halstead | Crofton, yes most lists allow people to set the 'no email' flag after subscription so they can interface via the web without getting emails. | 15:48 |
| Crofton[m] | I am curious if we can measure how many people read onyl via the web? | 15:49 |
| JaMa | RP: yes, I'm as well, even when it shows that something might be wrong (before I was just suspecting that it might not work as I would expect) | 15:49 |
| JaMa | RP: and pressure graphs didn't help to see what's bitbake doing based on that | 15:50 |
| RP | Crofton[m]: I suspect a lot of people might not even realise nomail is a thing :/ | 15:51 |
| * RP notes for the new contributors guide | 15:52 | |
| JaMa | do you remember any bugs related to bitbake ping timeout after 60s (https://git.openembedded.org/bitbake/tree/lib/bb/server/process.py#n504)? I know about https://bugzilla.yoctoproject.org/show_bug.cgi?id=15005 you mentioned before, but this timeout seems different | 15:52 |
| Crofton | RP: I wonder the same thing, but if people aren't coming from an email centric background, do they use groups.io differently | 15:53 |
| halstead | Crofton[m]: no way to know that given what I have access to. But we can see how many subscribers elect not to receive email | 15:54 |
| RP | JaMa: bugs with which version of bitbake? The code did change significantly once I added the other thread into the mix | 15:54 |
| Crofton | halstead: good start | 15:54 |
| JaMa | RP: latest master | 15:54 |
| RP | JaMa: For timeouts with current master, it can mean the system was locked up for 60s blocked on IO :( | 15:56 |
| RP | JaMa: I'd be interested in the cookerlog if you can share it around the time it happened | 15:56 |
| RP | JaMa: I've been progressively adding more logging to see if I can tell *where* it locks up as in theory it should have continual pings of the UI | 15:57 |
| JaMa | RP: and it's always on ubuntu 18.04 with buildtools (for newer python), so I was hoping it will disappear once we finally upgrade to 22.04 and just today I was able to connect to that jenkins server soon after it happended (asuming to find OOMK killing some python processes or something like that, but system logs look reasonable - full of unrelated garbage) | 15:57 |
| JaMa | RP: unfortunately cookerlog was gone already, but I'll change jenkins to print it whenever bitbake fails to store it at least in the build log | 15:57 |
| JaMa | RP: thanks I'll continue to look into that and will let you know if I find a way to reproduce it or at least get more useful info what happened | 16:00 |
| RP | JaMa: thanks. I'd love to get to the bottom of it... | 16:01 |
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