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| mort | those lots-of-cores ARM servers are cool but they all seem so enterprise-y | 11:50 |
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| mort | I can just .. buy an AM5 motherboard and an epyc CPU, from normal online computer part stores | 11:50 |
| mort | and then throw a PSU and some storage and some RAM at it and grab an Ubuntu Server ISO and it works | 11:51 |
| mort | all those lots-of-cores ARM server systems seem like they want me to get in touch with their sales reps, I could get just the CPU but knowing ARM I'd probably have to spend the next decade figuring out how to tweak a vendor device tree to work on some vendor kernel | 11:52 |
| marex | arm servers are all efi stuff | 11:54 |
| rburton | yeah the servers (eg ampere altra) you just boot a mainline distro on | 12:21 |
| rburton | eg my altra | 12:21 |
| rburton | $ cat /etc/os-release | 12:21 |
| rburton | PRETTY_NAME="Ubuntu 22.04.4 LTS" | 12:21 |
| rburton | they want you to contact a sales rep for the same reason HP want you to contact a sales rep if you buy $10K of x86 server from them | 12:22 |
| mort | and you can just get a motherboard and a CPU and a PSU and some RAM/drives? | 12:22 |
| rburton | i'm not aware of any vendors that will just sell you a cpu/mobo, they're normally complete systems like https://store.avantek.co.uk/ampere-altra-64bit-arm-workstation-ad.html | 12:23 |
| mort | that's the problem, those are the ones which will run me through their sales reps instead of just selling me a thing aren't they | 12:25 |
| mort | people who sell complete systems in general I mean, I haven't looked at Avantek in particular | 12:25 |
| rburton | avantek appear to be letting me checkout with an ampere workstation in my basket | 12:26 |
| hrw | ignore avantek | 12:26 |
| hrw | in US/UK go newegg for asrock rack motherboard + 64 core cpu. 1500 USD for a set | 12:27 |
| rburton | nice | 12:27 |
| hrw | in EU go mifcom.eu | 12:27 |
| hrw | avantek is a master of showing offer without info what's inside | 12:28 |
| mort | I'm in the EEA but not EU, I'll look at mifcom though | 12:28 |
| hrw | mort: arm servers are boring. you unpack, rack, connect cables and run install from normal distro iso. Debian, Fedora, RHEL, SUSE... even ubuntu | 12:29 |
| hrw | mort: and ignore marex - he loves pain he gets from running arm sbc boards | 12:30 |
| rburton | everyone has a business model :) | 12:30 |
| hrw | mort: https://www.mifcom.de/workstation-ampere-altra-q64-22-id21868 | 12:31 |
| hrw | rburton: yeah. | 12:31 |
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| JaMa | https://www.mifcom.de/laden/u0661191 nice, my next WS might not be threadripper | 12:56 |
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| hrw | JaMa: just take nvidia card to it. | 13:19 |
| hrw | JaMa: https://community.amperecomputing.com/t/using-a-radeon-rx-6800-with-ampere-with-linux/696/10 | 13:19 |
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| fray | Hmm.. latest scarthgap I'm getting a strange error. I start a build and 'something' fails with a python error in do_unpack. I then restart the build and it works fine. Change the machine, and it happens again, thenw orks fine.. | 22:47 |
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| fray | it appears going bak to the YP 5.0.1 tag the issue goes away.. but I'm still trying to figure out exactly how to reproduce it | 23:02 |
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