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| DvorkinDmitry | Using Scarthgap. how can I change the CLANG version in meta-clang? v 18.1.6 is too new | 13:11 |
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| mort | there isn't a meta layer whose purpose is to provide more up to date toolchains for older yocto is there? | 14:59 |
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| mort | I really wish yocto could use upstream toolchains instead of patching them | 15:26 |
| mario-goulart | https://git.yoctoproject.org/meta-external-toolchain/tree/README.md exists, but I'm not sure how well it works nowadays. | 15:44 |
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| khem | mort: there is mixin layer for LTS release where such things can be done | 16:27 |
| khem | using newer toolchains for older yocto however is not a simple task, adding a new toolchain that builds for kirkstone maybe 10% of work. Real work will be in porting the rest of packages to work with this toolchain | 16:28 |
| khem | upgrading from release to release is a better approach which works with similar amount of effort but there perhaps is more community support | 16:30 |
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| mort | khem: most of the extra work seems to be due to the patching though... | 16:47 |
| mort | I mean it's not like cargo's CLI changes incompatibly all the time | 16:47 |
| mort | anyway upgrading yocto is, in my experience, a ton more work than upgrading e.g the version of rustc | 16:52 |
| mort | rust is used by what, librsvg? | 16:52 |
| mort | I'm not talking about switching to a different gcc + glibc + libstdc++ + m4 + autotools version, I understand that that carries with it some risk | 16:55 |
| JaMa | if you were talking about rust, then you can use meta-rust layer | 17:01 |
| JaMa | or backporting rust on your own is indeed quite simple, we have recently backported 1.75.0 from scarthgap to kirkstone for webOS builds | 17:03 |
| mort | I really don't wanna have to patch LLVM T_T | 17:07 |
| mort | hm meta-rust is interesting though, I was looking at that but then I saw all the branches were old releases and I figured maybe it was only a thing before rust got into poky? But the master branch seems pretty up to date | 17:08 |
| JaMa | why would you need to patch LLVM to update rust? | 17:09 |
| mort | the existing recipe patches LLVM, I haven't looked closely at what exactly the patches are but at least one patch is marked as not for upstream submission because it's yocto-specific | 17:10 |
| JaMa | yes, it was more important before rust was imported from meta-rust to oe-core, but meta-rust is still updated and could be used for older releases to get newer rust | 17:10 |
| JaMa | so someone already did the work, you don't want to backport that? | 17:11 |
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| khem | mort:your comments were generic now rust and go etc. are a bit different because as of now, not much packages in OE use rust compared to C/C++ | 18:08 |
| khem | and these communities upgrade the compiler all the time and ABIs are also kept that way so its a bit easier even when the number of packages grow ( hopefully ) the crates.io and git mods will keep the backward compatibility or edition mechanism intact | 18:09 |
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