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| Habbie | can anybody recommend a piece of hardware with at least two network ports that works well with a somewhat older OE? (this question actually is for RDK) | 17:10 |
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| Habbie | is there a way to browse to the next page on http://layers.openembedded.org/layerindex/branch/master/machines/?q=&browse=1 ? i feel like i'm missing something :) | 17:16 |
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| Habbie | and, is the database behind that site public somewhere? i did not immediately spot it in http://git.yoctoproject.org/cgit/cgit.cgi/layerindex-web/ | 17:19 |
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| paulg | If you can find an old Edge Router Lite on eBay, it was the default Yocto MIPS reference BSP up until about 2y ago. It has three network ports. | 17:23 |
| Habbie | i was actually sad to see it was no longer actively supported | 17:24 |
| Habbie | because i have two | 17:24 |
| Habbie | you sound like i should be able to find a layer for it | 17:25 |
| * Habbie goes look | 17:25 | |
| paulg | The thing is, that it didn't have any kernel patches, so really all you need to do is revert the couple commits that removed the BSP template files, and you can just go build it like as if it was never nuked. | 17:26 |
| Habbie | ah right, cool | 17:26 |
| paulg | I did this about 8months ago(?) - probably 6.6-ish kernel? | 17:26 |
| Habbie | RDK is at 5.15 | 17:26 |
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| paulg | Might just go have to do it again for shitsngiggles. | 17:26 |
| Habbie | rdk is at kirkstone (yocto 4.0) | 17:28 |
| paulg | ER lite might not even have been nuked yet at k'stone. You'd have to check. | 17:29 |
| Habbie | yeah, i am | 17:29 |
| Habbie | removed in 4.3. i must have crossed the streams in my head (i built poky walnascar earlier this week, which is when i was sad to see it gone) | 17:30 |
| Habbie | oh right. if i pick branch: kirkstone on the layers site the edgerouter becomes visible. nice | 17:33 |
| Habbie | thanks for the nudges paulg | 17:33 |
| paulg | no problem. | 17:34 |
| paulg | nice little target to work on - flash on USB was user friendly. The powerpc turds I was using in the 2008-2012 era had soldered onboard flash, so you tftp the new u-boot, stomp over the existing copy, cross your fingers and hit reset. | 17:37 |
| Habbie | yes, the little usb port is great | 17:38 |
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| paulg | shame some jerk had to go remove it. https://lists.yoctoproject.org/g/poky/topic/patch_yocto_bsp_drop_mips/98797973 | 17:47 |
| Habbie | what a dick :) | 17:47 |
| Habbie | i actually read that text earlier | 17:48 |
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| Habbie | DISTRO: rdkv | 18:03 |
| Habbie | MACHINE: edgerouter | 18:03 |
| Habbie | wonderful | 18:03 |
| Habbie | now i just need to make /home 50GB bigger first :> | 18:03 |
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| paulg | Cool. FWIW, I'm totally for people making use of older hardware as long as they can. I still have two ER-lite. But there comes a point where it becomes selfish for a tiny user base to expect the upstream to continue fielding bug reports and doing regular build/boot tests on their old "hobby" board. | 18:09 |
| Habbie | it's not building yet but i'll figure this out | 18:09 |
| Habbie | paulg, yes, i agree | 18:09 |
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| paulg | In a lot of cases, the incremental software bloat/growth, combined with the fixed (soldered, no upgrade path) RAM size of embedded platforms, means that they become overwhelmed and start to OOM etc. some 10y after their introduction. | 18:13 |
| paulg | At 1/2GB, the ER-Lite should still be pretty solid with a CLI like core-image-full-cmdline | 18:14 |
| Habbie | ack | 18:15 |
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| paulg | Not really a unique problem to us/yocto/oe - OpenWRT killed off a whole class of devices back in 2019 for exactly this (bloat) reason. https://openwrt.org/supported_devices/432_warning | 18:19 |
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| Habbie | oh yes. i'm very familiar with openwrt | 18:22 |
| Habbie | so far my impressions are "OE has a better build system, openwrt has a more accessible hardware database and also maybe support for more hardware" but i'm not sure of the latter because of the accessibility difference | 18:22 |
| Habbie | ok. adding meta-yocto(-bsp) for edgerouter support to the RDK tree comes with hurdles. I'll go back to this later :) | 18:24 |
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| khem | Habbie:openwrt is focussed narrowly on wifi+router products. OE scales horizontally to build anything basically, embedded linux is one case | 19:49 |
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| Habbie | yes, i noticed | 19:58 |
| Habbie | my thermostat also appears to be OE-based (but i've pondered porting openwrt to it - if only because back then i knew it better than OE, which is still true, but OE is growing on me) | 19:58 |
| Habbie | and then RDK of course narrows the focus a bit on their side | 20:02 |
| Habbie | (but not as narrow as openwrt, especially with -V and i think there's one or two other letters besides -B) | 20:03 |
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| Habbie | does bitbake prefer fetching over other tasks? because i currently have -one- do_compile running on which 2800 tasks depend because a few fetches took a while | 20:27 |
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| rburton | Habbie: nope, that's because that one big fetch was the bottleneck | 21:31 |
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| paulg | If your link isn't rocket speed, next time before you go to bed, do sth like "bitbake core-image-full-cmdline --runall=fetch" to pre-populate your downloads dir. | 21:53 |
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| khem | yeah and hope your data limit is not capped :) | 22:48 |
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