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ashux88Can member please help me with Anuj Mittal &06:34
ashux88Gyorgy Sarvari  IRC details06:34
ashux88I have few patches pushed for review comments06:34
ashux88https://lists.openembedded.org/g/openembedded-devel/message/11962106:34
ashux88https://lists.openembedded.org/g/openembedded-devel/topic/kirkstone_patch/11534789606:34
ashux88https://lists.openembedded.org/g/openembedded-devel/message/11962106:34
ashux88any pointers will be helpful06:34
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rburtonashux88: anuj isn't often on irc, email instead07:45
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ashux88ok thanks08:02
ashux88can you please help me understand the geedback loop for scarthgap & kirkstone08:02
ashux88i have shared the patch and don't get any error email08:03
ashux88so generally what the merge process and feedback process08:03
ashux88since no input , i am not sure if the patch was taken for consideration or it got missed in sea of patches08:03
ashux88since i am planning to work more on patches , it would be helpful to allign with commnuity process and expectaion08:04
rburtonthey've literally just become the stable maintainers, so might be ramping up still.08:05
rburtonif its been a few weeks, feel free to ping them08:05
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ashux88thanks . If i can seek few minutes of your time . How was this generally done as that would give some info08:14
rburtonyou sent patches, they get applied after testing08:14
ashux88will we get notification if the patches passed the testing or if that patch is considered for merge08:15
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rburtonno, they'll just get merged08:29
rburtonkeep your patches in branches and they'll rebase away when they're merged08:29
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ashux88thanks rburton08:46
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LetoThe2ndbooked FOSDEM hotel, trains not scheduled yet :/09:36
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CroftonThe room we used for last years workshop is available, I am nailing it down and have the CFP and ticket shop ready to go, this will happen on Feb 211:08
LetoThe2ndYAY11:14
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LetoThe2ndpics of nailing PLZ11:15
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rburtonnice11:55
rburtonthat was a nice venue11:55
LetoThe2ndyup11:58
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jeroen_RP: any thoughs about this https://lists.openembedded.org/g/bitbake-devel/topic/rfc_fetch2_npm_do_keep/115382619?12:12
jeroen_I doubt we should thrust the npm registry to be always correct..12:13
LetoThe2ndjeroen_: thrusting NPM sounds like a solid strategy.12:16
jeroen_LetoThe2nd: yes, brilliant ;)12:17
jeroen_but without joking, it is obviously bad that OE simply thrust npm (and their hacks)12:20
RPjeroen_: I don't understand npm and I struggle to know what the right things to do there are12:21
jeroen_RP: well making sure that the checksum is valid for the things being fetched might be a good start12:23
jeroen_at the moment it checks the checksum from within the file being fetched...12:24
jeroen_npm is hell btw, you are blessed that you don't understand it..12:25
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RPjeroen_: I agree using the checksum from the src_uri sounds right12:31
jeroen_RP: good, and what about backporting?12:32
RPjeroen_: well, my worry now is what else then breaks :(12:33
RPjeroen_: changing one element of the fetcher like this is rarely free from some other kind of fallout :(12:33
jeroen_the npm is hardly used if would guess...12:34
jeroen_we have this though: "# Avoid conflicts between the environment data and the proxy url checksum", that is in the way and is weird12:35
RPjeroen_: I have wondered about that :/12:35
jeroen_RP: you are aware the whole npm stuff got hacked recently, right?12:37
jeroen_well not the whole, but...12:37
RPjeroen_: I am :(12:38
jeroen_and it is not hacked either...12:38
RPjeroen_: I'm also aware that I have so many different "critical" things to sort and I simply can't do all of them. The npm hack is the main reason I'd take your patch12:39
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jeroen_RP: as you know I am a maintainer myself, I wouldn't be bothering you if I didn't think this is somewhat important12:43
jeroen_and yes, it will likely cause some noise.. actually I have a better patch for it, which simply refuses to accept remote checksums :)12:45
RPjeroen_: does that mean a new version of the patch?12:50
jeroen_RP: yes, as is, you get the last 2 of this https://github.com/victronenergy/bitbake/commits/scarthgap_venus/12:54
jeroen_(but rebased to master ofcourse)12:55
RPjeroen_: ok, I think that will cause some friction but makes sense to me, I think anyway12:58
jeroen_that might break more things though, but that is good for them12:58
jeroen_well it is up to you....12:59
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RPjeroen_: I just need to be able to explain the issue when I get the inevitable complaints about breakage13:08
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jeroen_well that isn't that hard is it?13:12
jeroen_npm has broven to not be a reliable source....13:12
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jeroen_damn, ...proven..13:13
RPjeroen_: I'm just overloaded and feeling fragile as it is so one more thing to do...13:13
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RPjeroen_: I'm worried about the issue you've highlighted :/13:13
jeroen_fine, with me.. I feel with you13:14
RPjeroen_: e.g. to backport that we need a policy exception. Someone needs to write that and discuss with the TSC13:14
RPit shouldn't be "hard" but someone needs to do it13:14
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jeroen_RP: just my 2cts, but if there is a global attack against npm and OE doesn't have the means to protect against it.. well...13:18
RPjeroen_: hence why I'm focusing time on this and feeling extremely stressed/worried :/13:21
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jeroen_RP: please keep in mind that you're only making a framework, the ones deploying it will also look after it / and if they are a bit poilte will mention it here13:47
jeroen_... if there is an issue ...13:48
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