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| rburton | kergoth: time to dig out support for darwin native builds so you can build a qemu-native and just use runqemu :) | 10:03 |
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| mort | when you use poky as-is as a submodule of your own repository and e.g use 'source poky/oe-init-build-env', is there a way to customize the generated bblayers.conf and local.conf? | 13:26 |
| mort | I see it defaults to using config templates from within poky | 13:27 |
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| rburton | don't use poky, just use oe-core/bitbake directly and do exactly what poky does to have custom templates | 13:29 |
| mort | don't use poky at all or don't use oe-init-build-env from poky? | 13:29 |
| rburton | poky at all | 13:31 |
| rburton | its gone as of whinlatter anyway, so if you're not using poky the distro then there's no point using poky-the-repo really | 13:31 |
| rburton | (and don't use poky the distro for production) | 13:32 |
| mort | I see | 13:32 |
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| mort | are there any guides for setting up a Yocto-based system from scratch without Poky? Everything I've done with Yocto so far has been Poky-based, and lots of documentation (including https://docs.yoctoproject.org/brief-yoctoprojectqs/index.html) uses Poky | 13:36 |
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| rburton | it predates bitbake-setup so uses git submodules but https://github.com/rossburton/customdistro | 13:37 |
| mort | I assume you select oe-nodistro-whinlatter in 'bitbake-setup init' | 13:37 |
| rburton | yeah | 13:37 |
| rburton | that's just the oe-core defaults, not the poky customisation | 13:37 |
| rburton | then make your own distro because _obviously_ you have your own distro if you're actually making a real thing and haven't been using poky | 13:38 |
| mort | I'm not convinced that's so obvious, "an existing minimal distro but with my own software and systemd service files added and customizations" is a pretty big use case | 13:40 |
| mort | poky's core-image-minimal is a pretty competent little distro that you can build off of | 13:40 |
| rburton | too competent, it's design for testing | 13:42 |
| rburton | but the key point is it can and will change every release, like turning on vulkan and more GPU drivers and debuginfod | 13:43 |
| rburton | write your own distro, so you control what features you have | 13:43 |
| rburton | tldr: poky is not minimal, it's 'everything on' | 13:43 |
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| mort | what's the intention behind 'bitbake-setup init'? It asks questions which I need to store the answers to in a git repo, but the files it produces look like things which don't belong in a git repo (i.e with absolute paths etc) | 13:45 |
| mort | I guess it's meant to be wrapped by a setup command type thing | 13:46 |
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| mort | but wait, it pulls in the latest of stuff, no? | 13:47 |
| mort | I don't understand how I'm supposed to use this operationally, what I'm supposed to automate to run every time, what I'm supposed to store the output of | 13:49 |
| mort | your customdistro makes sense, it looks like it mostly just works like a simple poky | 13:49 |
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| mort | That customdistro seems to work perfectly though, I didn't realize there was so relatively little you needed from poky for a minimal build. Nice! Thank you | 15:50 |
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| Crofton | mort: realted ... https://github.com/elisa-tech/meta-sgl/tree/main/meta-sgl-core/conf/distro | 18:06 |
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