Friday, 2013-03-22

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evanpwalters: layer priority?03:03
evanpwalters: maybe you can overlay just the one .bbappend03:04
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kergothappends are cumulative03:41
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kergothapplied in layer priority order, yes, but cumulative03:41
kergothso depends on the content whether it'll be easy to overirde it03:41
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LetoThe2ndin case anyone is interested: the quick start guide misses the "chrpath" package in the required software for redhat09:08
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rburtonLetoThe2nd: please file a bug!09:11
LetoThe2ndrburton: where?09:11
rburtonbugzilla.yoctoproject.org09:13
LetoThe2ndsorry, but i will not register just for that...09:19
LetoThe2ndif it was a wiki i would have instantly fixed it, but thats just overkill imho.09:20
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bluelightningmorning all09:30
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mckoanI noticed that in YP there is not xinput-calibrator, how do you calibrate an image-sato system?09:52
rburtonmckoan: that's in meta-oe10:01
rburtonmckoan: it will be moved to oe-core soonish10:01
rburtonmckoan: out of curiosity, what touchscreen are you calibrating?10:02
rburtoni'm missing touchscreen hardware to test this on, which makes integrating it somewhat tricky10:04
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mckoanrburton: ADS784610:08
mckoanrburton: I know it is in meta-oe because it works if I use image-sato with oe-core10:10
mckoanrburton: do you mean that it will be moved to YP soonish?10:10
rburtonmckoan: i want to integrate it into oe-core10:12
mckoanrburton: I'm confused, there is not xinput-calibrator in YP10:13
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mckoanrburton: find meta* -name 'xinput-cal*'10:13
rburtonyeah, it's in meta-oe.  i want to move it to oe-core when i have hw to test it.10:14
rburton(or, someone else can send the patch to move it, if they've tested it)10:14
rburtonso patches welcome!10:15
JaMamckoan: YP is not repository10:18
mckoanrburton, JaMa: I will try adding git://git.openembedded.org/meta-openembedded to my YP10:19
JaMamckoan: start by using correct terminology10:20
bluelightningmckoan: and it's the meta-oe subdirectory of that which you would add to your bblayers.conf, FYI10:21
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mckoanJaMa: ok http://www.openembedded.org/wiki/LayerIndex column Layer name ;-)10:22
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mckoanbluelightning: ack, thx10:22
rburtonmckoan: adding meta-oe does have some unintended side-effects, so be careful.   you might find it safer to copy just the calibrator out.10:23
bluelightningmckoan: also key is the "Repo subdir" column10:23
mckoanbluelightning: ok, BTW correct terminology is quite puzzling though10:24
mckoanrburton: I tried copying just the calibrator out, but there are dependecies too10:25
mckoanrburton: I'm finding easier to work under oe-core only rather than YP10:26
rburtonmckoan: what do you mean by YP?10:26
mckoanrburton: moreover I dont' understand this needing of redundancy10:26
* rburton guesses Poky?10:27
mckoanrburton: LOL yes $ git clone git://git.yoctoproject.org/poky.git10:28
bluelightningmckoan: the Yocto Project provides releases of poky (incorporating bitbake, oe-core, meta-yocto, and docs) in order to have a single tested release10:28
bluelightningbut the components are also separate so that people can use them separately as desired10:28
rburtonpoky is literally just a known good combination of bitbake + oe-core + meta-yocto10:28
rburton(and meta-yocto is tiny)10:28
bluelightningwell, meta-yocto and meta-yocto-bsp these days10:29
rburtontrue10:30
mckoanrburton: poky is a combination of bitbake + oe-core + meta-yocto, and with oe-core you mean 'meta' dont'you?10:31
rburtonmeta/ and a few other directories10:32
bluelightningmckoan: we mean the entire contents of oe-core which includes meta/10:33
JaMamckoan: I was talking about "YP"10:35
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mckoanconfusion is caused by using the same name for different meanings (meta-oe is a repo subdir but also a directory name)10:45
mckoanand in some cases the same meaning have different names :-D10:46
rburtonthe big confusion for me is the difference between Poky and oe-core+bitbake is meta-yocto10:46
rburtonshould be meta-poky10:46
mckoanrburton: that too10:47
bluelightningyes the meta-oe meta-openembedded thing annoys me as well10:47
bluelightningI hope one day we can rename meta-oe to meta-misc or something similar10:48
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rburtonmckoan: just remember that one and you've saved a lot of confusion. the important thing is that you can't download/run or do anything with "yocto"10:48
mckoanbluelightning: :-D10:48
rburtonyocto is an umbrella project10:48
* rburton starts reciting from his presentation10:48
bluelightning(FYI, I'm still polishing the patchset to move the networking pieces out of meta-oe to meta-openembedded)10:48
rburtonbluelightning: meta-misc-and-others10:48
bluelightninger to meta-networking I mean10:48
bluelightninggah10:48
mckoanI'll try doing something with this xinput-calibrator (and related) stuff then10:49
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mckoanthank you all for your precious help10:49
rburtonmckoan: would be much appreciated :)10:49
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mckoanas happened with "oe-classic" it seems that fate is that I always take care of xinput-calibrator :-D10:51
rburtonmckoan: hardware and experience, excellent :)10:53
mckoanrburton: LOL10:54
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mckoanrburton: far more experience with hw than metadata directory organization ;-)10:55
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LetoThe2ndnewbie question - if i have built core-image-sato for a test, and now want to build it for a different machine - is it enought to change the MACHINE variable?11:31
bluelightningLetoThe2nd: yep11:32
LetoThe2ndand the re-fire bitbake, correct?11:32
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rburtonLetoThe2nd: that's right11:35
LetoThe2ndthanks rburton & bluelightning11:35
rburtonif the two machines share an architecture then they'll re-use lots of the build results11:35
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LetoThe2ndhehe, unfortunately rather not at the moment ;)11:36
LetoThe2ndi'm just once again trying to get some basic grasp of how things work concerning all those yocto components.11:37
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LetoThe2ndhm no, it actually seems to reuse a lot of the host stuff indeed.11:41
rburtonLetoThe2nd: a lot of native stuff isn't target dependent11:43
LetoThe2ndrburton: yeah i grasped that much :)11:43
rburton(only the toolchain)11:43
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LetoThe2ndon the other hand, that seems like by default, poky builds a *real* lot for the host.. where to dive into that a bit? some recipe-thing i guess?11:44
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rburtonLetoThe2nd: we make minimal assumptions about the host11:45
rburtonpretty much that you have a compiler and a few tools, then we build the rest.  otherwise you'll end up having the wrong compiler version or automake.11:45
LetoThe2ndsure.11:46
rburtoneven with these minimal deps we get breakage from new distros11:46
LetoThe2ndyeah. well i usually use ptxdist which in the end is of course not too different concerning these things, but its the small things that are handled in another way :)11:47
rburtonLetoThe2nd: feedback on the differences welcome :)11:49
LetoThe2ndrburton: i might feedback once i have enough grasp of both that the feedback might actually be valuable ;)11:49
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LetoThe2ndwhats the recommended way to fix the tun/tap adresses for runqemu? modify them in runqemu-ifup?13:19
LetoThe2ndrespectively setting up bridging to the real net?13:23
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RP1LetoThe2nd: you mentioned chrpath was missing, which quickstart was that on?14:33
RP1LetoThe2nd: I just checked and I can't spot where its missing from :/14:33
RP1LetoThe2nd: you can presetup tun/tap devices which runqemu will use14:35
RP1LetoThe2nd: runqemu-gen-taptun14:35
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mcfriskany idea why deploy scripts would fail to copy u-boot and x-load binaries to tmp/deploy/images? Sometimes they end there after recompiling some packages but not when compiling from scratch.15:04
bluelightningmcfrisk: what are you building when compiling from scratch?15:10
mcfriskI'm building the image target15:13
mcfriskrootfs and kernel end up in deploy/images, and from logs I see that x-load and u-boot were compiled and deploy called.15:14
bluelightningif that's what it's reporting, I can't imagine how it would not be deploying the files in that case...15:17
bluelightningif it were unable to copy the files for some reason it should be erroring out15:17
bluelightningbesides some bug, the only way I can imagine it not doing the copy was if it had already copied the file before and you then deleted it and then built the image without clearing the stamp for x-load or u-boot15:18
bluelightningbut it doesn't sound like that's what happened15:18
mcfriskmaybe the log.do_deploy for kernel has the uImage and other files but same logs for x-load and u-boot don't show u-boot.bin or MLO binaries.15:18
bluelightningmcfrisk: are you using x-load / u-boot recipes not from OE-Core?15:20
bluelightningmcfrisk: what exactly do you mean by "from scratch"? i.e. how exactly did you clear things out / start fresh?15:21
mcfriskfrom scratch I mean rm -rf tmp && bitbake ...15:22
bluelightningmcfrisk: ok but you're not deleting sstate-cache ?15:23
hrwmcfrisk: lack of 'install -d ${DEPLOY_somethingDIR}' in do_deploy?15:23
bluelightningmcfrisk: (not that you should have to, just checking)15:23
mcfriskno, I'm saving & sharing the sstate15:23
bluelightningmcfrisk: ok, is SSTATE_MIRRORS set or is this build machine only using its own sstate-cache?15:24
mcfrisksharing sstate on one machine15:25
bluelightningok15:25
bluelightningso one thing to try would be to bitbake -c clean u-boot then bitbake u-boot and see if the file is deployed; if not do the same with -c cleansstate instead15:25
bluelightningbbl, meeting15:26
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mcfriskbluelightning_: thanks! cleansstate did the trick. now files are there.15:31
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RP1halstead: did something just happen to the bugzilla?17:23
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RP1halstead: DNS disappeared :/17:25
RP1halstead: and back now. Must have been something on my DNS chain breaking :/17:27
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