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kergoth | pidge: nice | 01:06 |
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tasslehoff | I have cloned poky and want to add my own layer. What is the normal way to do this? Add it as a git submodule? | 08:26 |
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mckoan | good morning | 08:28 |
mckoan | tasslehoff: you can create your layer in local just for starting | 08:30 |
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tasslehoff | mckoan: I already have my layer ready in a gitrepo on our server. I have based my work on the angstrom setup script until know. | 08:36 |
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rburton | tasslehoff: an alternative is to have your layer use submodules to pull in poky | 08:43 |
rburton | (which is what meta-guacamayo does) | 08:43 |
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mks | hello | 09:08 |
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mattnie | hi | 09:17 |
mckoan | hello mks, mattnie, all | 09:18 |
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tasslehoff | rburton: ah. that's a good idea. | 09:22 |
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rburton | tasslehoff: see https://github.com/Guacamayo/meta-guacamayo | 09:23 |
rburton | tasslehoff: upstream/ is where submodules for poky, meta-oe, and various BSPs appear | 09:23 |
rburton | obviously its just one of many ways, but it does nicely split your upstream layers from your own | 09:24 |
rburton | the downside is that you can't just go and change stuff in the other layers, you need to bbappend | 09:25 |
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tasslehoff | rburton: yeah, but that is the practice I've been following until now anyway. I like that my other layers are pristine :) | 09:32 |
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rburton | certainly makes upgrading them a lot easier | 09:40 |
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bluelightning | morning all | 09:44 |
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lyang0 | where are you bluelighting | 10:26 |
lyang0 | I will be off duty I'm in china | 10:27 |
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bluelightning | lyang0: I'm in the UK | 10:33 |
bluelightning | London to be precise | 10:33 |
bluelightning | lyang0: on IRC people generally follow UGT though: http://www.total-knowledge.com/~ilya/mips/ugt.html :) | 10:34 |
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soldoKyn | Hi all! Anyone knows if there is a bsp/machine configuration for i.mx6SoloLite EVK? Thanks! | 10:43 |
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rburton | soldoKyn: have you looked in meta-fsl-arm already? that has some i.mx6* machines | 10:46 |
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soldoKyn | rburton: in meta-fsl-arm there are only machines for i.MX6Q unfortunately... | 10:53 |
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rburton | soldoKyn: i've no idea what the differences are. is one of those a good match? | 10:53 |
* rburton doesn't have any fsl hw, so can't really help more :/ | 10:54 | |
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soldoKyn | rburton: thank you anyway! | 10:57 |
mckoan | soldoKyn: AFAIK there is not bsp for i.mx6SoloLite EVK | 10:58 |
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tasslehoff | our image is !x11. Util now I have used angstroms console-base-image.bb as a base and added qt and other packages. which image would you recommend starting from in yocto? | 11:14 |
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bluelightning | tasslehoff: depends on what you want.... honestly though image recipes are so trivial they can usually just be written from scratch | 11:17 |
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tasslehoff | bluelightning: yeah. perhaps that is the best thing to do to really understand what I'm including | 11:30 |
tasslehoff | esp. since one of my goals are to make sure our image is as small as possible :) | 11:30 |
neg | Hi, i wish to include a python 2.7 package in my image but the only package I can find in poky is the python-nativ package. Can I include this package in my image or is that just used by yocto to create the image? | 11:32 |
rburton | tasslehoff: if you want a tiny image then bitbake+oe-core and starting from one of the small images as an example is probably the right thing to do | 11:34 |
rburton | the bigger distros like angstrom pull more in as they're more featureful, which isn't always what you want | 11:34 |
tasslehoff | rburton: true. | 11:46 |
lyang0 | bluelighting good morning | 11:48 |
lyang0 | I'm at home | 11:48 |
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erbo | can I overlay .inc files by simply having an .inc file in a bblayer with higher priority? the recipe just to a require foo.inc and I want to do modifications to foo.inc but not the .bb | 11:59 |
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bluelightning | erbo: unfortunately no; you can only overlay recipes | 12:01 |
bluelightning | or append them | 12:01 |
bluelightning | erbo: however, an append just overriding the variables you want to override may be able to do the job | 12:01 |
erbo | bluelightning: I can probably to everything I want that way, thanks for the hint | 12:14 |
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mcfrisk | hi, how to add a sanity test script to yocto? I'd like to add a test for git tags so that I don't have to fix them to hashes manually, https://wiki.yoctoproject.org/wiki/How_do_I#Q:_How_do_I_create_my_own_source_download_mirror_.3F | 13:20 |
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mcfrisk | how repeatable are yocto builds? Compilation order seems be pretty difficult to handle. Various packages succeed if build from scratch or if rebuild after a successful build. I'm afraid that there's plenty of things like headers that go unnoticed if build order is changed. | 16:48 |
mcfrisk | /succeed/succeed or fail/ | 16:48 |
rburton | mcfrisk: that's why i submitted wipe-sysroot to oe-core, so when adding a new package you can wipe your sysroot and check it build cleanly | 16:49 |
rburton | any problems with repeatable builds is a genuine bug | 16:49 |
kergoth | that's unlikely. very few build order issues are likely to remain after all the parallel builds we've done and wwith sstate reuse issues | 16:49 |
kergoth | indeed | 16:50 |
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mcfrisk | yes, I see the genuine bugs and am fixing them. There just seems to be alot of them. And by fixing I mean cherry-picking fixes from git. | 16:51 |
kergoth | ah, you're on danny or denzil i presume? | 16:51 |
mcfrisk | denzil | 16:52 |
mcfrisk | hopefully we can move to newer release or git master soon.. | 16:52 |
fray | denzil is nearing retirement.. | 16:52 |
kergoth | 1.4 is about to release | 16:52 |
rburton | even danny/1.3 would be a big step forward | 16:52 |
kergoth | I really like how oe-lite resolves build order problems -- per-recipe sysroots | 16:52 |
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mcfrisk | aha, that's how OBS works, per package build environments. | 16:53 |
rburton | kergoth: there are plans to add that to oe-core | 16:53 |
* kergoth nods | 16:53 | |
bluelightning | as an option | 16:53 |
kergoth | I had a oe based prototype at one point, but it was prior to shared state even existing, not much of use anymore | 16:54 |
rburton | i suspect you'll get quite a performance dive from it though | 16:54 |
bluelightning | + extra disk usage | 16:54 |
kergoth | oh I'm sure. though we can probably cache based on the set of deps in use | 16:54 |
kergoth | and do something vaguely rm_work like | 16:54 |
bluelightning | well, hardlinking might help there | 16:54 |
fray | w/the shared state (ignoring disk usage) it shouldn't be hard to enable per-recipe sysroots | 16:54 |
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rburton | bluelightning: i'd expect hard links to be involved, yes | 16:54 |
mcfrisk | I'm also wondering how much the build host affects the end result. On my Debian wheezy I'm seeing many more failures which others are not seeing on Ubuntu. For example the broken <limits.h>. | 16:54 |
fray | mcfrisk, again.. if you can identify a problem with that, it's a bug.. | 16:55 |
fray | we're take a lot of effort to avoid host contamination issues.. but there were some in Denzil.. | 16:55 |
kergoth | mcfrisk: those are probably only with native builds, the stuff we build on the host to run to build the target stuff.. e.g. glibc 2.16 required a lot of fixes / native recipe updates | 16:55 |
fray | ya.. in 1.4, the native (and nativesdk) packages are significantly more robust | 16:56 |
mcfrisk | maybe I need to refrase: denzil has many issues but most of the are fixed in poky-git danny/master. So thank you for that! | 16:57 |
kergoth | mcfrisk: i've found the best results with building old yocto are on old build hosts, i do most of my old release builds in aa centos5 vm personally | 16:57 |
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LetoThe2nd | howdy! just poking yocto a bit, bitbake -k core-image-sato eeks out with "Failed to fetch test data from the network"... is this a false positive? | 19:10 |
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sgw_ | LetoThe2nd: could indicate a problem with a proxy or firewall if you are in a corp environment | 19:12 |
LetoThe2nd | sgw_: not at all, and i'm pretty sure connectivity is fine. | 19:13 |
sgw_ | LetoThe2nd: then it might be a false positive as you suggest | 19:13 |
LetoThe2nd | sgw_: how to ignore it, then? | 19:14 |
sgw_ | LetoThe2nd: which part is failing can you tell? | 19:16 |
LetoThe2nd | sgw_: i only get http://fpaste.org/ujoH/ | 19:17 |
sgw_ | LetoThe2nd: checking something back in a minute | 19:18 |
LetoThe2nd | sgw_: no need to hurry. | 19:19 |
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sgw_ | LetoThe2nd: Just to verify, can you try going to the 2 links in the CONNECTIVITY_CHECK_URIS | 19:25 |
sgw_ | CONNECTIVITY_CHECK_URIS ?= " \ | 19:25 |
sgw_ | https://eula-downloads.yoctoproject.org/index.php \ | 19:25 |
sgw_ | http://bugzilla.yoctoproject.org/report.cgi" | 19:25 |
LetoThe2nd | sgw_: in the browser, both seem to work. want me to curl them? | 19:27 |
sgw_ | Try setting the CONNECTIVITY_CHECK_URIS = "" in your local.conf, what version of poky btw (git master or a version)? | 19:28 |
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LetoThe2nd | danny-8.0 as suggested in the quickstart | 19:28 |
LetoThe2nd | ok, after unsetting that in local.conf, it proceeds. | 19:29 |
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waynr | this is strange, over the weekend when i was working on this image, the modified passwd utility from shadow-password was working fine and the build would end up with the password from the variable ROOT_PASSWORD but today the build fails | 19:58 |
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waynr | the command run is: passwd --root /opt/oe/builds/y1.4-M4_som3517/tmp/work/som3517-emac-linux-gnueabi/emac-image/1.0-r0/rootfs -p emac_inc root, the fail is 'passwd: unable to chroot to directory /opt/oe/builds/y1.4-M4_som3517/tmp/work/som3517-emac-linux-gnueabi/emac-image/1.0-r0/rootfs' | 19:59 |
waynr | i guess that makes it unreliable | 20:00 |
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waynr | i'd like to know what made it work over the weekend but not today...i am running the build as the same user (i know i have never run it as root) | 20:02 |
fray | you need to run that command w/in pseudo | 20:06 |
fray | you can't just run it on the command line... since you won't have permission to chroot | 20:06 |
fray | pseudo will "fake it" and make it work | 20:06 |
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waynr | fray, is there an example of doing this somewhere? I am greping through poky/meta right now looking for one | 20:09 |
waynr | ah, just "psuedo [command]" | 20:11 |
fray | you have to set the environment.. | 20:11 |
fray | pseudo is already running if you are in the do_rootfs context | 20:11 |
waynr | ohh...hmm, maybe i am? i am running the generated temp/do_rootfs.#### command to test it | 20:12 |
fray | bitbake -c devshell <image> | 20:13 |
fray | PSEUDO_DISABLE=0 bash | 20:13 |
fray | "id" | 20:13 |
fray | shoud return 0 | 20:13 |
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waynr | no, returns my development user's UID and GIDs | 20:15 |
waynr | i mean, not saying "no it shouldn't" just "no it doesn't" | 20:15 |
fray | just a sec.. I have to be in a context I an run the commands | 20:15 |
waynr | well in any case running the run.do_rootfs.# command does work from there | 20:17 |
fray | ok.. then that is fixing it | 20:18 |
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Garibald1 | I have an .. unusual problem. Sometime when I build I get an error out of binutils-crosssdk that I need a different version of autoconf. configure.ac:33: error: Please use exactly Autoconf 2.64 instead of 2.69. | 20:38 |
Garibald1 | it doesn't happen every time -- I'm not exactly sure what the trigger is | 20:39 |
Garibald1 | any ideas? | 20:39 |
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Garibald1 | As far as I can see, 2.69 is the only version I have a recipe for | 20:41 |
waynr | thanks for the help fray | 20:45 |
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Garibald1 | I'm open to any ideas anyone might have | 21:00 |
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Garibald1 | this was working on a different machine | 21:02 |
Garibald1 | I'm not sure why moving from machine to machine would make a difference | 21:02 |
waynr | Garibald1: what OS does each machine use? | 21:06 |
Garibald1 | waynr: one was Ubuntu 12.10, the other is some Red Hat variant | 21:07 |
Garibald1 | I think I may have tracked down at least part of the problem -- it didn't like my machine name | 21:08 |
waynr | you said it doesn't happen every time, does it happen every time on one machine but never on the other? | 21:08 |
Garibald1 | err, not machine name | 21:08 |
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Garibald1 | it's possible it happens every time, that I just tried something this time that had the dep | 21:09 |
Garibald1 | it tried to run /bin/sh .../confi.su x86_64-foo-pokysdk-linux and failed | 21:09 |
Garibald1 | but I tried running that manually with x86_64-foo_pokysdk-linux and it worked | 21:09 |
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Garibald1 | seems it's sensitive to the number of hyphens and what the pieces mean | 21:10 |
Garibald1 | I'm going to try modifying my distro.conf and see if that helps | 21:10 |
Garibald1 | waynr: thanks | 21:10 |
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hollisb | bitbake -g + dot is one of the more useless visualizations I've run across | 22:48 |
kergoth | indeed | 22:48 |
kergoth | just massive | 22:48 |
hollisb | kergoth: what do you use instead? text editor? | 22:49 |
kergoth | yep. grep and vim | 22:49 |
kergoth | or depexp | 22:49 |
kergoth | bitbake -u depexp -g foo | 22:49 |
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kergoth | or the whatdepends subcommand of my work-in-progress 'bb' tool | 22:50 |
kergoth | (though it's limited at the moment) | 22:50 |
hollisb | ah, I should probably look at that | 22:50 |
hollisb | where do I get bb? | 22:50 |
kergoth | https://github.com/kergoth/sub-bb | 22:51 |
kergoth | the readme has usage and examples for most of the subcommands | 22:51 |
hollisb | thanks | 22:51 |
kergoth | whatdepends -r is pretty awesome | 22:51 |
kergoth | i need to teach it to handle runtime and task level dependencies though | 22:51 |
kergoth | you'll love bb-log too, much thanks to rburton for that and bb-contents :) | 22:54 |
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walters | is there any way to override selected bbappends? I am using meta-selinux, but there's slight version drift between its .bbappend and what's in my tree; so I made a clone of the repo and patched it, but that's less ideal since i have a micro-fork | 23:38 |
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