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| LetoThe2nd | RP2: thx for the informations of friday, will look into it laters. was AFK over the weekend. | 06:35 |
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| mckoan | good morning | 08:09 |
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| RP2 | morning all | 08:36 |
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| rburton | sameo_: no systemd service file for neard? i thought this was cutting edge ;) | 11:34 |
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| zeddii | is there a one-liner to clean all -native packages ? I'm seeing each one die on autoconf .. and doing a manual clean-all, rebuild is getting old .. fast | 12:25 |
| rburton | zeddii: the S!=B change landed, which autotools really doesn't like. easiest is to blow away your tmp. | 12:25 |
| rburton | you'll get it for all non-native packages that use B!=S | 12:25 |
| * zeddii nods. | 12:26 | |
| zeddii | I can live with that, no slower than what I'm currently doing :P | 12:26 |
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| RP_ | zeddii: FWIW, easiest way to blow away native is rm -r tmp/stamps/x86_64-linux tmp/sysroots/x86_64-linux | 12:34 |
| RP_ | zeddii: but as rburton notes, it won't help in this case | 12:34 |
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| Corneliu | hello | 13:58 |
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| RP_ | fray: FWIW, debugedit failed on mips too | 14:00 |
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| fray | same type of failure? | 14:01 |
| fray | I'm thinking the problem has to do with some sectiosn being moved around, but I'm not sure.. | 14:01 |
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| RP_ | fray: I didn't dive into it but looks similar | 14:02 |
| fray | the issue, at least on PPC, is that it gets to two "NOBITS" sections and they have load addresses and sizes set.. but the addresses are the same.. | 14:02 |
| fray | when the system processes, it's generating a new unique "build-id".. and it gets to these sections, and the load address comes back at '0'.. it then tries to memcpy from '0' and the returned size (> 0) | 14:03 |
| fray | which of course immediately blows up | 14:03 |
| walters | debugedit is such a gross hack... | 14:03 |
| fray | what I don't get though.. I've looked a newer elfutils and newer debugedit and neither have any changes for this particular issue that I've seen.. | 14:04 |
| fray | I'm still investigating.. but something odd is certainly happening.. and I think it's due to gcc 4.7... | 14:04 |
| fray | walters, no disagreement here.. in place editing of dwarf info is sketchy.. but it works | 14:04 |
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| fray | (I'd love an alternative to debuginfo, but I've yet to find one) | 14:05 |
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| RP_ | fray: does a load address of 0 make sense? | 14:07 |
| walters | i did a bit of research recently and dumped the results here https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=695816 | 14:07 |
| yocti | Bug 695816: was not found. | 14:07 |
| fray | RP_, a load of 0 w/ a size > 0 doesn't make sense to me.. | 14:07 |
| walters | tl;dr: debian skips installing the source files and just ships the dwarf, which means there's no need for the "edit" part of debugedit | 14:08 |
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| fray | walters, which also means it's nearly impossible to do production debugging of sources | 14:08 |
| fray | it's very typicaly in our environment that you have a runtime only system.. attach a debugger and have the debuginfo and associated sources on a remote machine.. | 14:09 |
| fray | something has to correlate those sources to the debuginfo to the original binary (on the target) | 14:09 |
| fray | otherwise the user has to manually specify the location of everything to the debugger.. and that's not acceptable from a user standpoint | 14:09 |
| walters | well you just find the git revisions that were used to build the target, and check those out on the client system | 14:09 |
| fray | sorry, doesn't work that way in commercial environments for embedded | 14:10 |
| fray | they have an archive of the -dbg packages generated along side their sources and have that available for remote debugging | 14:10 |
| fray | (or in some cases to load on to the production system if you are running gdb on the target itself) | 14:10 |
| rburton | apparently arjan's distro has some debug magic, but i'm not sure what he does that's special | 14:10 |
| fray | everything has to be selfcontained.. | 14:10 |
| rburton | it should be on fenrus somewhere | 14:10 |
| walters | fray, i'm certainly not debating that people rely on the system as it is today, but there's also more than one way to slice the problem | 14:11 |
| fray | debugedit serves two purposes.. the first is to collect all dwarf referenced sources.. the second is o change the references to avoid the many intervention problem | 14:11 |
| fray | two programs to do the same would be fine with me.. I have no love of debugedit.. but what it does is needed still | 14:12 |
| walters | i like the microsoft solution to this problem which is a symbol server | 14:12 |
| fray | (the adjusting the build-id is a third facet of what it does.. one I'm still not convinced is useful for embedded.. but it is used) | 14:12 |
| walters | rather than having to install the complete debuginfo on the client *or* the target | 14:13 |
| fray | walters, that works well if you have a singular distribution.. doesn't work when every use is creating their own custom distribution | 14:13 |
| rburton | yeah, that's nice when you have stable packages | 14:13 |
| rburton | man, fenrus uses a fuse file system to fetch debug packages on the fly | 14:13 |
| walters | fray, not sure how it's that different to put up -dbg packages in a repo versus a server | 14:13 |
| fray | Fedora, Ubuntu, etc could all use a central system..but I don't see OE being able to do it.. (users of OE could setup their own and do it) | 14:13 |
| fray | walters, there is no 1 set of oe, yp, angstrom, etc sources (or the way they are constructed) | 14:14 |
| fray | each use sets up their own distro settings, add their own customizations, etc.. so the debuginfo is specific to the distribution the end user has generated | 14:14 |
| walters | i understand that yes =) | 14:14 |
| walters | to return to the topic, i wonder if i introduced this regression by telling GCC to generate build IDs, and that code has always been buggy on MIPS | 14:16 |
| * RP_ comments out his sanity checks locally to allow builds to "work" :/ | 14:16 | |
| RP_ | walters: and ppc? | 14:16 |
| RP_ | walters: We're seeing this on mips and ppc that I know of... | 14:16 |
| fray | from what I can tell, a change maybe a year ago happened, which also broke the prelinker in some environments. | 14:16 |
| fray | The order of the sections changed, and loadable sections started popping up after non-loadable.. | 14:17 |
| fray | I wonder if this case is similar | 14:17 |
| walters | RP_: hm, i guess that's unlikely since I know Red Hat Enterprise Linux definitely builds for PPC(64), although there may be a cross issue | 14:17 |
| RP_ | fray: could be | 14:17 |
| RP_ | fray: anyhow, just wanted to give you another datapoint. Let me know if you want me to do anything with this, otherwise I'll leave it with you | 14:19 |
| fray | well if I check the load address against NULL, and then skip the entry it works around the rpboelm.. | 14:19 |
| fray | but I'm still trying to figure out if that is reasonable or not | 14:19 |
| RP_ | fray: why does it not fault when we run against a binary the second time? | 14:20 |
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| fray | because by that point either the binaries been manipulated already -- or it's been trashed.. | 14:21 |
| fray | I'm not sure yet | 14:21 |
| fray | I didn't compare the bad (orig) vs the bad (adjusted/crashed) | 14:22 |
| RP_ | fray: just wondering if it gives any more data points | 14:22 |
| walters | rburton, link? | 14:22 |
| RP_ | fray: is there a function in elfutils or similar we could call to compute the checksum instead? | 14:22 |
| fray | what I'm surprised by is that RH/Fedora doesn't seem to have seen this problem.. | 14:23 |
| rburton | walters: git.fenrus.org | 14:23 |
| fray | both from google searches and just code inspection | 14:23 |
| fray | they may not be using beecrypt though.. and libnss might have a check for the data addr != null or something | 14:23 |
| walters | rburton, looks like http://git.fenrus.org/git/?p=projects/fenrus-debug-info.git;a=tree | 14:24 |
| rburton | walters: yeah. arjan's crazy toy distro. | 14:24 |
| fray | and part of me wonders if it even matters, if we skip the sections we still get reproducable build-ids.. and thats all they need to be.. | 14:24 |
| walters | system("mkdir -p /usr/lib/.debug &> /dev/null"); ew ew ew | 14:25 |
| rburton | walters: not sure if the crazy is just install-on-demand or whether there's more to it than that | 14:25 |
| rburton | walters: step away whilst you can | 14:25 |
| fray | install on demand isn't actually that crazy.. | 14:25 |
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| fray | go back to walter's MS comment.. it's a reasonable idea in fact.. | 14:25 |
| fray | I'm just not sure "fuse" is the right answer | 14:25 |
| rburton | yeah | 14:26 |
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| fray | I'd rather see the debuggers, tooling (valgrind?) be adjusted in some way to know how to pull whatever they need from the server... | 14:26 |
| fray | via a service even.. | 14:26 |
| fray | I just have an objection to fuse being used in amny cases because it requires root privileges to setup | 14:27 |
| fray | speaking of build-id.. that is something we should probably pursue in the 1.5 development.. instead of -just- the ".debug" directory.. we have a .build-id symlink as well.. that way we're sure the debuggers and finding the right version.. | 14:28 |
| RP_ | fray: don't they check if the hashes between the two files match? | 14:29 |
| fray | honestly, I don't know if they do | 14:29 |
| fray | I know if the .build-id links are available, gdb will use them in preference to the .debug files.. which could mean a quicker resolution | 14:30 |
| fray | "could" | 14:30 |
| fray | I've very rarely used build-id outside of the canned environments like Fedora | 14:30 |
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| fray | stupid pacific timezone.. I was hoping Khem would be alive by now | 14:33 |
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| fray | ok.. so what is happening is the hash function is being called with void * data = 0, size_t size = 64 | 14:38 |
| fray | there is a check in beecrypt for a size of '0', but not a data == NULL | 14:38 |
| fray | so that explains why it's falling through an blowing up | 14:38 |
| fray | I still don't know why the data is 0 though, that is what is coping out of libelf | 14:38 |
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| fray | RP, so the differences between the pre segfault and post.. is that the source references have been changed, and the build-id was partially recomputed | 14:59 |
| fray | other then that, I see no difference | 14:59 |
| fray | -00000100 47 4e 55 00 38 c6 fa 1d 75 71 cd 0e bc 85 89 fe |GNU.8...uq......| | 14:59 |
| fray | -00000110 97 68 22 00 98 ac 6a 0c 00 00 00 83 00 00 00 18 |.h"...j.........| | 14:59 |
| fray | +00000100 47 4e 55 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 |GNU.............| | 14:59 |
| fray | +00000110 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 83 00 00 00 18 |................| | 14:59 |
| fray | that's the comparison in the build-id | 14:59 |
| fray | looks like the later was just zero'd | 15:00 |
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| fray | it looks to me when debugedit is run a second time, it just spits out the 0:0 debugid | 15:00 |
| fray | doesn't look to me like it is actually processing/recomputing.. which would avoid the crash | 15:01 |
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| sameo_ | rburton: Will fix that soon :) | 15:17 |
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| fray | Interesting.. I just noticed something | 15:33 |
| fray | Section Headers: | 15:33 |
| fray | [Nr] Name Type Addr Off Size ES Flg Lk Inf Al | 15:33 |
| fray | [22] .got PROGBITS 000239d0 0139d0 000014 04 WAX 0 0 4 | 15:33 |
| fray | [23] .plt NOBITS 000239e4 0139e4 000234 00 WAX 0 0 4 | 15:33 |
| fray | [24] .bss NOBITS 00023c18 0139e4 0001c8 00 WA 0 0 8 | 15:33 |
| fray | the address changes, but the offset doesn't | 15:33 |
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| RP_ | fray: so its not updating the offsets? | 16:10 |
| fray | that -should- be ok.. I think.. | 16:12 |
| fray | I'm working on a workaround patch.. | 16:12 |
| fray | simply checks for '0' on the data size and skips the md5sum operation | 16:12 |
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| denix | hmm, what has changed in bitbake 1.16 and above to sort FILES_${PN}-dev before FILES_${PN}? | 16:29 |
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| RP_ | denix: bitbake.conf changed | 16:34 |
| RP_ | denix: there was discussion on the list, a lot of auditing and so on | 16:34 |
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| denix | yeah, trying to find that. what was the topic? | 16:35 |
| fray | RP_ well, I have a workaround.. | 16:37 |
| denix | ah, duh, PACKAGES controls that order... silly me. | 16:37 |
| denix | need more coffee I guess, can't see obvious things :) | 16:37 |
| RP_ | denix: its ok, I know the feeling ;-) | 16:37 |
| RP_ | fray: the check for zero? | 16:38 |
| RP_ | fray: probably worth sending out so we can at least patch up the error paths | 16:38 |
| fray | ya, will do | 16:38 |
| fray | I'm confident it's 'safe'.. | 16:39 |
| fray | just not sure if it's a final fix or not | 16:39 |
| fray | RP_, sent to the list as an RFC | 16:41 |
| fray | the buildid is being generated consistently.. so it should be ok.. | 16:42 |
| RP_ | fray: I'm tempted to merge this, fix the error paths and then if we need to improve on it we can | 16:42 |
| fray | ya | 16:42 |
| fray | I need to get someone like Khem to look at this and explain WTF is going on | 16:42 |
| fray | I'm about 90% convinced that it's the NOBITS and offset addresses being the same that's the culpret.. but that stuff is buried deep in libelf.. | 16:43 |
| fray | I havn't actually found the load routines yet.. | 16:43 |
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| RP_ | fray: I've sent out my version of the error patch, I used bb.fatal | 16:55 |
| RP_ | fray: and covered a few more cases | 16:55 |
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| fray | ok | 16:57 |
| fray | RP_, talking to one of our ELF experts.. | 16:57 |
| fray | the two sections that are causing the problem .plt and .bss.. these (NOBITS) sections are dynamically allocated, even though they have a size.. | 16:57 |
| fray | so libelf is reporting no data (data point == NULL) but a size... | 16:58 |
| fray | so I think my workaround might be the actual fix afterall | 16:58 |
| * fray just noticed the clock on his dev machine is around 20 minutes fast.. huh | 16:58 | |
| RP_ | fray: makes you wonder how this ever worked... | 16:58 |
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| RP_ | fray: unless beecrypt just drops null or something | 16:59 |
| RP_ | or used to | 16:59 |
| RP_ | fray: I added more error handling and now we're seeing more errors :( | 17:00 |
| fray | beecrypt has a check for a size of '0'.. but assumes you wouldn't pass it an address of 0 | 17:00 |
| fray | I wonder if this has been broken for over a year | 17:00 |
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| fray | remember when prelink went nuts on PPC? that was when the .plt/.bss sections got moved into the middle of the section table, instead of atthe end | 17:01 |
| RP_ | fray: I know I saw it in my logs a while ago but never reproduced | 17:01 |
| fray | I suspect this is the same kind of problem | 17:01 |
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| RP_ | I now know I likely tried the wrong arch :/ | 17:01 |
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| fray | what is interesting is only the buildid is wrong.. it happens that the crash comes after all of the other work that debugedit does.. the buildid seems one of the last steps.. | 17:02 |
| fray | it zero's it.. then calculates a new one (and crashes) | 17:02 |
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| RP_ | fray: right, so the impact isn't that bad... | 17:02 |
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| RP_ | fray: I also noticed we need to remove the debug sources list before we rerun the command or the file grows each time | 17:03 |
| fray | interesting | 17:03 |
| RP_ | fray: testing some things locally in that area | 17:03 |
| RP_ | that in turn causes other commands to break it would appear | 17:04 |
| RP_ | I'll have to throw this at the autobuilder to ensure we have all the silent errors fixed :/ | 17:04 |
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| fray | no problem | 17:05 |
| fray | BTW the processdebugsrc -might- legitamitely come out non-zero.. I'm not sure.. | 17:06 |
| fray | there are cases where the referenced sources don't actually exist... | 17:06 |
| RP_ | fray: why wouldn't they exist? | 17:06 |
| fray | there are some internal references that look like filenames, but aren't.. | 17:06 |
| fray | things like "<internal>" | 17:06 |
| fray | BTW our elf guy suggested instead of checking or a data == 0, instead check if the section was loadable or not | 17:07 |
| RP_ | fray: I guess I'll soon find out... | 17:07 |
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| fray | either way it should work.. but what we're doing now depends on specific behavior of libelf.. checking for loadable sections is "generic" | 17:08 |
| fray | I'd say run the autobuilder test.. I'll see if I can find the right way to check for this | 17:08 |
| RP_ | fray: right, sounds sensible at least... | 17:08 |
| fray | and then the final fix will likely be both.. :P | 17:09 |
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| RP_ | fray: Yes, I'll probably merge this and then we can figure out the final fix | 17:09 |
| RP_ | whilst we figure out if there are any other issues in the meantime | 17:09 |
| fray | so I'm at least confident the values being generated are sane.. | 17:10 |
| JaMa | denix: Hi, can you check if icecc.bbclass (patch on ML) works correctly with your external-toolchain setup? | 17:12 |
| JaMa | denix: http://lists.linuxtogo.org/pipermail/openembedded-core/2013-March/037147.html | 17:12 |
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| RP_ | fray: You're right about the source copying, will have to drop that check | 17:13 |
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| fray | Any of them that mask the 2> /dev/null are expected to have failures | 17:13 |
| denix | JaMa: thanks, I'll see if I get some time... | 17:13 |
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| Crofton|work | tracey needs a better mugshot: http://posscon.org/speaker/tracey-erway/ | 17:29 |
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