Tuesday, 2013-03-26

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bluelightningmorning all09:20
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lyang0good morning09:33
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mckoangood morning09:43
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panda84kdemornin'10:07
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JaMabluelightning: ping12:37
bluelightninghi JaMa12:37
JaMahi, I have question about last buildhistory changes to track SRCREVs12:37
bluelightningJaMa: sure, fire away12:37
JaMawe would like to track tag-srcrevs also in case SRC_URI is like git://something;tag=foo12:38
JaMabitbake does not populate SRCREV variable (it stays invalid) but still in persistent cache there is git hash which was found by git ls-remote12:38
JaMawould it make sense to extend buildhistory to keep history of tag value and corresponding hash?12:39
bluelightningJaMa: is the hash I'm reporting as the actual SRCREV not the corresponding hash? (if you look at the code is not reading the value of SRCREV to get this, it uses fetcher functions)12:40
bluelightningJaMa: of course it won't show what the value of tag= is though; it probably would be valuable to save that as well12:41
JaMaah, I haven't tested or read that yet, but if it's so than only tag value would be missing12:41
bluelightningJaMa: I think that's all that's needed... could you reply on the ML so that I can address that before merging?12:42
JaMaok, I'll test if SRCREVs are the same as what I generate with my script now and reply on the ML12:42
JaMathanks!12:42
bluelightningnp12:43
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rburtonJaMa: have you experience with weird systemd failures?13:01
rburtonJaMa: got *really* odd behaviour with my branch when you turn sysvinit entirely off. although the only difference is that some sysv init scripts are missing compared to the working hybrid image, it massively fails to boot.  dbus abstract sockets don't exist, files in / don't exist (they do), etc.13:02
rburtonits like / disappears from underneath it13:03
JaMawell I have experienced a lot of weird issues since it was added in oe-core, now I still have meta-systemd enabled, but resulting images are not really usable (even after rebuilding them from scratch)13:07
rburtonthat's also special13:07
JaMaI haven't had any time to debug it, but last time I was testing "clean" image it was failing to mount something and fallback to emergency shell wasn't working too13:08
rburtonsystemd-cgroups-agent[1078]: Failed to get D-Bus connection: Failed to connect to socket /org/freedesktop/systemd1/private: Connection refused13:08
rburtonsystemd[1079]: Failed at step STDOUT spawning /usr/sbin/alsactl: No such file or directory13:08
rburtonsystemd[1082]: Failed at step STDOUT spawning /lib/systemd/systemd-logind: No such file or directory13:08
rburton^ those files do exist, and systemd should have opened that socket13:08
JaMatesting with qemu and nfs root?13:08
rburtonnope, atom-pc13:09
rburtonand a "hybrid" image which is identical but with some masked init files, works fine13:09
rburtonthe console logs are roughly the same until it all goes wrong13:10
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panda84kdeHi. I've added a layer in my bblayers.conf but it's not listed in the output of: $ bitbake-layers show-layers13:31
panda84kdeHow do I debug which bblayers.conf is being parsed and what could be going wrong?13:32
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bluelightningpanda84kde: can you pastebin your bblayers.conf file?13:41
panda84kdebluelightning: sure, wait a minute13:42
panda84kdebluelightning: it's just the default one plus the "meta-mutimedia" line (#12) http://pastebin.com/9TJ1eZR013:44
bluelightningpanda84kde: looks fine to me... can you check bitbake -e | grep ^FILE= and bitbake -e | grep ^BBLAYERS=13:46
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panda84kdebluelightning: got it... it's looking in a different folder from the one I supposed it to be13:50
bluelightningpanda84kde: did you change to a different build directory after running oe-init-build-env perhaps?13:50
panda84kdeI have a setup which has: setup-environment in a, let's call it ROOT folder, then I have "sources" folder under ROOT, "conf" folder under ROOT, and "build" folder under ROOT13:51
panda84kdeit's looking for bblayers.conf in "build/conf" non in "conf"13:52
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bluelightningargh @ ctrl+w13:52
bluelightningpanda84kde: that's expected at least out of the box13:53
bluelightningpanda84kde: bblayers.conf and local.conf are expected to be in conf/ under the build dir13:53
panda84kdeI see. I didn't create the ROOT/conf dir though.13:54
bluelightningpanda84kde: you may wish to talk to whoever gave you this customised setup13:54
panda84kdebluelightning: ok, I'll post on the yocto-freescale ML then. https://community.freescale.com/docs/DOC-9384413:55
panda84kdebluelightning: anyway, thank you so much for your assistance!13:56
bluelightningpanda84kde: np13:56
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* nitink1 YPTM nitin is getting on the bridge15:00
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Song_LiuYPTM: welcome to the technical team meeting, please let me know who's on the bridge.15:00
bluelightning_we can't get in here, it just goes to normal TI PABX15:00
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strassekYPTM: Kevin Strasser is here15:00
CorneliuYPTM: Corneliu joined15:00
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tomz2YPTM: Tom Z on call15:01
zeddiiYPTM: Bruce Ashfield on the bridge15:01
davestYPTM: Wondering what number I use from Romania?15:01
jmdelos_YPTM: Polk is here15:01
rburtonbluelightning: huh, yeah, TI broke their UK number15:01
Corneliu1 sec15:02
Crofton|workdavest, 1-900-867-530915:02
CorneliuDial-in number: 1.972.995.777715:02
rburtonanyone from TI know what happened to the UK number?15:02
frayYPTM: I'm here15:02
davestYPTM: davest is in the call15:02
belenYPTM: belen is in the call15:03
bluelightningPaul Eggleton joined, using the US number15:03
nitink1YPTM: nitin is in the call15:03
scottrifYPTM: Scott Rifenbark joined the bridge15:03
ZagorYPTM: Björn Stenberg is on the call15:03
RP_rburton: did you find a UK number?15:04
rburtonRP_: not one that works15:04
cristianiorgaYPTM: cristian iorga present15:04
Song_LiuYPTM: Any opens?15:04
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frayis there a mute button (other then local phone)?15:05
fusmanYPTM: Fahad Usman on the bridge15:06
CorneliuYPTM: current weekly status: https://wiki.yoctoproject.org/wiki/1.4_QA_Status15:07
bluelightningfray: you could try *615:07
fraythey worked..15:07
davestYPTM: Anyone from TI on the line? Can you help us with the bridge noise?15:07
frayI'd suggest people mute w/ *6 then..15:07
* fray wonders if if it's *6 to unmute or #615:08
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bluelightningfray: *6 again I think15:08
rburtonfray: normally the same code again15:08
adamianwe called an operator15:08
* RP_ isn't able to find a sane way to dial a US number atm :(15:08
rburtonRP_: i don't recommend google voice15:08
rburtonRP_: massive static15:08
bluelightningskype has worked for me in the past15:09
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davestYPTM: I was able to talk to the bridge operator and they said they would help15:09
bluelightningnoise seems to be gone \o/15:09
frayyup15:09
Zagorahh15:10
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RP_Song_Liu: RP is on the call now15:11
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frayRP -- is it only MIPS?15:18
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RP_fray: I think15:20
frayok15:20
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RP_halstead: sounds good, we could use more ABs :)15:26
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Crofton|workRP_, we can auto build as much as there are machines for15:28
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RP_Crofton|work: indeed15:28
Corneliunew report for Milestone Report page: https://wiki.yoctoproject.org/wiki/Yocto_1.4_Milestone_Test_Report#Yocto_1.4_M4_RC1_Build_Test_Report15:28
Crofton|workI propose something like this: http://www.nas.nasa.gov/hecc/resources/pleiades.html15:29
RP_Corneliu: looks much nicer :)15:29
RP_Corneliu: How can you have 100% pass for jasperforest with 2 bugs?15:30
CorneliuRP_: glad you like it :)15:30
RP_Corneliu: I guess "other items" don't count?15:30
CorneliuRP_: bugs are issues encountered that do not block any test cases15:30
CorneliuRP_: indeed15:30
CorneliuRP_: for example https://bugzilla.yoctoproject.org/show_bug.cgi?id=3928 is encountered during shutdown but does not fail the shutdown test15:32
yoctiBug 3928: normal, Medium, 1.4, bogdan.a.marinescu, NEW , stopping tcf-agent: FAILED15:32
ZagorCorneliu: any progress with getting ptest into testopia? I've got gcc-runtime and gdb tests itching to be included. only 26092 test cases! ;-)15:32
CorneliuZagor: :-s15:33
CorneliuZagor: we need tro talk about that15:33
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CorneliuZagor: we either get less test cases with more content or automate the process of geting that into testopia15:34
Zagoryes, automated parsing is a must.15:35
CorneliuZagor: indeed, that brings connectivity issues as the machine must be able to comunicate with the testopia server.15:36
CorneliuZagor: or a buffer server that collects the data and then sends a phrased result to testopia15:37
Zagorthe way we do it is to just parse the test logs. since ptest has a fixed format, packages and test cases can be separatec lexically15:37
dv_i cannot find the name of the next poky version. the previous one was denzil, the current one is danny, the next one .. ? is there a page with the names?15:38
Zagordv_: dylan15:38
rburtondv_: oh i need to add the new one!15:38
dv_is it known if gstreamer 1.0 will be included in dylan?15:39
CorneliuZagor: Can you please open a bug in QA - Test Plans/Suite about adding ptest integration?15:39
ZagorCorneliu: sure15:39
CorneliuZagor: thank you :)15:39
rburtondv_: https://wiki.yoctoproject.org/wiki/Releases15:39
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dv_ah! i was looking for that list. thanks15:40
Song_LiuYPTM: thank you all for joining the meeting. Have a nice day/evening15:40
rburtondv_: i wanted that to happen, but we just passed feature freeze. people are working on it, so my secret plan is to merge it into meta-multimedia asap and then pull it into oe-core for 1.5.15:40
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dv_it will probably be called "gstreamer10", no? to distinguish it from gstreamer 0.10, which happens to be just called "gstreamer " atm15:41
rburtonyeah, gstreamer-1.0 etc15:41
dv_or can you break backwards compatibility between major releases?15:41
rburtonhm, no - actually15:41
rburtongstreamer1.015:41
rburtonwe'll want both to be parallel installable15:41
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rburtonwell, the sources are, it's just a matter of naming it appropraitely15:42
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dv_sure. but existing recipes all just call it "gstreamer".15:42
dv_perhaps introduce "gstreamer0.10", "gstreamer1.0", and make "gstreamer" a synonym for "gstreamer0.10" ?15:42
rburtondv_: renaming gstreamer to gstreamer0.10 is way too much churn to be worth it15:43
ZagorCorneliu: https://bugzilla.yoctoproject.org/show_bug.cgi?id=411415:45
yoctiBug 4114: enhancement, Undecided, ---, laurentiu.serban, NEW , Add ptest integration15:45
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CorneliuZagor: great :)15:47
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Sputhmm, I suddenly get tons of these warnings: "WARNING: Inode check for .../build/downloads is unavaliable, will remove it from disk monitor"16:04
Sputany way to silence those?16:04
Sputor fix :)16:04
rburtonSput: btrfs?16:05
rburtonthe warning should probably be a note or something non-visible by default16:05
Sputno, reiserfs16:05
Sputit's really spamming my shell16:06
rburtonreiser probably has the same quirk16:06
Sputany short-term fix for that one? I can't work like this16:06
rburtongrep for inode check, turn warning to note, file a bug16:06
Sputk16:06
rburtonits in bitbake, iirc16:06
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Sputyeah, found it16:07
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bluelightningSput: you can also clear out / adjust BB_DISKMON_DIRS in local.conf16:08
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Sputah, that's helpful too16:10
Sputso having my build stuff on reiserfs is not recommended, or is there something I can do to make it work properly?16:11
bluelightningSput: it's just the code is overzealous about reporting it can't check the inode count16:11
bluelightningit'll still check for available space AFAIK16:11
SputI see16:11
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Sputwell, thanks for now, will file a bug tomorrow :)16:14
bluelightningSput: that would be appreciated, thanks16:14
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Crofton|workRP_, ++ on you spending less time in meetings, and more time communicating to everyone18:02
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RP_Crofton|work: I suspect the people in the meetings will complain about lack of communication18:03
Crofton|workheh18:03
Crofton|workbut you can reach more people by spending less time in meetings18:03
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Crofton|workas a LF fellow, you should make it clear that you will cut meetings without pubilshed minutes first18:04
Crofton|workthat might increase the amount of minutes and help sovle the problem18:04
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Crofton|workbasically, regular state of things from you would be good18:06
Crofton|workbut more communication from everyone helps18:06
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* khem is looking into gcc 4.818:30
khemlets see if I can churn out recipes in few hours18:31
Crofton|workI can see RP_ pooping if you send him patches for the release :)18:32
khemoh obviously not18:33
khemall patches I do are not for upstreaming18:33
Crofton|workI am curious myself18:33
khemthis is for weird mipsen we have18:33
Crofton|workhttp://gcc.gnu.org/gcc-4.8/changes.html18:35
Crofton|workI am curious of the NEON code is better18:35
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Crofton|workI am kind of assuming the next release will be basedon on 4.8?18:37
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waynri have found a bug in the current udev recipe where the init script will try to use tmpfs for /dev when udev-182 actually requires devtmpfs19:02
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waynri guess i should check the bug tracker and maybe send a patch to oe-core if it has not been fixed already19:05
JaMaRP_: thanks for status email, one thought about it: it would be nice to send short version of TSC meetings sooner (just agenda and the header as it is when actual minutes are sent later)19:07
fraywe have a self-imposed deadline of 3 days after the meeting.. but we don't always make it..19:08
JaMaRP_: TSC minutes usually contain interesting information about status, but when they are send more then 1-2 weeks later it it does not count as "status"19:09
fraythat's why we intend 3 days max.. but again, time issues..19:09
frayonce the minutes are sent out, we usually all approved them within a day..19:09
JaMawell TSC 12th Feb, sent 27th Feb19:10
JaMaI understand time issues, just an idea, because sending TSC minutes sooner shouldn't increase RP's workload (or only tiny bit)19:11
JaMabut I don't know how many people like to read them like I do :)19:12
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pidgeotavio: I'm getting ready to start an M5.rc2. I'm creating branches for this one. Could you branch your master HEAD to 1.4_M5? I'll be starting the build in about an hour. If no branch, I'll just pull from your master.19:53
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otaviopidge: sure20:08
otaviopidge: done20:10
pidgeotavio: ty20:11
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RP_Crofton|work: Not at all. The answer to gcc 4.8 in 1.4 is "no"21:04
Crofton|work:)21:04
RP_Crofton|work: "make a branch"21:05
waltersapparently 4.8 ICE's trying to build 4.721:05
Crofton|workI think I meant planning for next release21:05
Crofton|workrofl21:05
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RP_walters: nice, that is going to be fun when we start seeing 4.8 on host distros trying to build older releases :(21:21
dv_oh boy.21:21
dv_I wasnt unpacking something into work-shared, but into DL_DIR :/21:21
Crofton|workhopefully they wait for 4.8.121:21
RP_dv_: That would result in a mess :/21:22
RP_Crofton|work: I hope so. We will think about 4.8 in 1.5...21:22
RP_reality depends on how many issues we see21:23
Crofton|worksure21:23
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Sputbtw, is the master branch still 1.4 or has that been branched away already?21:29
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RP_Sput: still master atm22:09
SputRP_: thx.22:10
Garibald1Hi folks.  I'm building an SDK (w/ -c populate_sdk) and my generated SDK is missing i586-poky-linux-ld.  Any idea why?22:10
RP_Garibald1: by default the sdk contains the development headers but not the tools22:11
RP_Garibald1: add packagegroup-core-buildessential to the image?22:12
Garibald1ah, is there a way to pick up the tools too?  For example, I get ar, as, cpp, g++, gcc, gdb, etc... just not ld22:12
Garibald1ok, I'll give that a shot22:12
Garibald1RP_: thanks22:12
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Garibald1do I need that, or some nativesdk- version of that?22:13
Garibald1for example, I don't want the tools in the rootfs, just in the SDK22:14
Garibald1(i.e., I'd like a cross compiler for the target in the SDK)22:14
RP_Garibald1: in that case you need the nativesdk version22:14
Garibald1right, ok22:14
Garibald1thanks again22:14
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Garibald1maybe packagegroup-core-standalong-sdk-target?22:22
Garibald1I don't see a packagegroup-core-buildessential22:22
RP_Garibald1: the nativesdk package names are different22:25
RP_Garibald1: TOOLCHAIN_HOST_TASK = "nativesdk-packagegroup-sdk-host packagegroup-cross-canadian-<ARCH>" is what you want22:26
Garibald1ah, ok22:26
Garibald1I found sdk-host, I'll add the cross-canadian too22:27
RP_Garibald1: I'm just puzzled why this isn't there by default22:27
Garibald1yeah, me too22:27
Garibald1I found it odd that gcc and g++ were there but not ld22:27
RP_Garibald1: packagegroup-cross-canadian contains gcc and binutils :/22:29
Garibald1so I see meta/classes/populate_sdk_base.bbclass:TOOLCHAIN_HOST_TASK ?= "nativesdk-packagegroup-sdk-host packagegroup-cross-canadian-${TRANSLATED_TARGET_ARCH}"22:30
RP_Garibald1: right :/22:30
RP_Garibald1: is this with master?22:30
Garibald1hum, no, danny tarball22:30
RP_Garibald1: ok, I can't test that so easily. I will set a build with master away though...22:31
Garibald1ok, thanks.  I'll experiment around a bit here as well22:32
Garibald1so I've added a package to the SDK by creating a nativesdk-packagegroup-sdk-host.bbappend with RDEPENDS_${PN} += "nativesdk-mypackage".  Is that the right way to do it?22:36
Garibald1it seems to work, but maybe it's causing problems with other things?22:37
RP_Garibald1: should be ok...22:41
Garibald1is there a "best" way that differs from what I've done?22:41
RP_Garibald1: several different ways, no one "best" way22:42
Garibald1ah, ok22:42
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pidgeotavio, do you maintain meta-fsl-ppc or just meta-fsl-arm?22:51
RP_pidge: just -arm22:54
RP_pidge: -ppc has just changed hands, now Luo Zhenhua-B19537@freescale22:56
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* mranostay loves freescale email addresses22:59
mranostayyou are not a number oh wait you are :P22:59
* pidge sighs. Ok, RP. I'll email them to let them know about the 1.4_M5 branch23:05
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