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| khem | mulhern: yes its normal but rare these days since releases are frequent and timely, what features do you have in mind | 00:47 |
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| mulhern | khem: It's security related from a person who contacted me in France. | 00:48 |
| mulhern | khem: gcc 4.8 currently has two flags: -fstack-protector and -fstack-protector-all | 00:48 |
| mulhern | They implement the same mechanism. | 00:49 |
| Circuitsoft | So, after making a busybox_1.20.2.bbappend and files/defconfig with corrected CONFIG_IFUPDOWN_UDHCPC_CMD_OPTIONS, it's still building with the -n option in ifupdown. | 00:49 |
| khem | mulhern: we have recently added security feature | 00:49 |
| khem | look into that it should cover it | 00:49 |
| mulhern | khem: Where should I look? | 00:49 |
| khem | at OpenEmbedded core metadata | 00:49 |
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| mulhern | khem: In bugzilla? Or in directory structure? | 00:52 |
| khem | directories | 00:53 |
| khem | e.g. meta/conf/distro/include/security_flags.inc | 00:53 |
| khem | you would include that in your distro | 00:53 |
| khem | and it should start to harden your distro | 00:53 |
| khem | or you can just add it to your local.conf | 00:54 |
| khem | require conf/distro/include/security_flags.inc | 00:54 |
| mulhern | khem: Is more complicated. There is a third flag now, -fstack-protector-strong, which seems to have gone into gcc 4.9. | 00:54 |
| khem | yes, that needs to be backported first into gcc 4.8 | 00:55 |
| mulhern | It works like the other two but causes the transformation to be applied more often than -fstack-protector but much less often than -fstack-protector-all. | 00:56 |
| mulhern | It's been used on chromiumos for a while now and seems well liked. | 00:57 |
| khem | I know this option | 00:57 |
| khem | seems less intrusive to me | 00:57 |
| mulhern | Reports are slowdown is minimal, whereas -fstack-protector-all it's pretty serious (typically). | 00:58 |
| khem | yes, | 00:58 |
| khem | I would only worry if the gcc testsuite regressions are OK | 00:59 |
| khem | are not ok | 00:59 |
| mulhern | Right. | 00:59 |
| mulhern | So, you would be open to it if it wasn't breaking stuff and the appropriate patch could be obtained? | 01:00 |
| khem | If you have plans to propose a backport its ok | 01:00 |
| khem | make sure that both gcc and metadata are fixed | 01:00 |
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| mulhern | OK! | 01:46 |
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| iwamatsu___ | Hi, | 07:53 |
| iwamatsu___ | Is there a way to get a list of packages that are created from recipes? | 07:55 |
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| ant_work | iwamatsu___: bitbake -s > packages.txt | 08:16 |
| iwamatsu___ | ant_work: thank you. However, the method does not take only a list of recipes. I want to get the list of packages that will be created from the recipe.... | 08:20 |
| iwamatsu___ | For example, libacl-dev and libacl is created from recipe of acl | 08:21 |
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| ant_work | iwamatsu___: offhand I'd say to list providers you have to enable debug | 08:27 |
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| ndec | iwamatsu___: how about bitbake -e <package> | grep "^PACKAGES=" | 08:31 |
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| iwamatsu___ | ndec: thanks, it work! | 08:35 |
| bluelightning | morning all | 08:37 |
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| exosyst | pot shot here but has anyone managed to use a Yocto toolchain with Fedora 19? The installer worked on F18 but doesn't work on F19 - any takers? | 09:23 |
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| fenrig | Hi how do i include qemu into my sdk generation? | 11:43 |
| fenrig | till now I've used "MACHINE="qemuarm" bitbake edna-image-minimal -c populate_sdk" | 11:44 |
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| fenrig | i've read about runqemu-extract-sdk | 11:51 |
| fenrig | but then I don't have my full sysroot | 11:52 |
| fenrig | because then I have to go back to the adt-installer instead of "-c populate_sdk" | 11:52 |
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| bluelightning | fenrig: I think you would do TOOLCHAIN_HOST_TASK += "nativesdk-qemu" in your image recipe | 12:12 |
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| fenrig | bluelightning: thx, however there is not much information/documentation about the sdk :/ | 12:13 |
| bluelightning | fenrig: I will try to get that improved for the next release | 12:13 |
| fenrig | bluelightning: thx ;-) keep up the good work | 12:15 |
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| fenrig | bluelightning: what does "TOOLCHAIN_HOST_TASK += "nativesdk-qemu"" do and how does it help me? | 12:40 |
| bluelightning | fenrig: you wanted qemu in the host part of your SDK, right? | 12:40 |
| fenrig | bluelightning: yeah :) | 12:40 |
| fenrig | bluelightning: so how do I use it then? | 12:41 |
| bluelightning | fenrig: right, that will accomplish that | 12:41 |
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| fenrig | bluelightning: how? | 12:41 |
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| bluelightning | fenrig: it becomes part of the SDK installation in the same way as the cross compiler and other tools | 12:42 |
| Stygia | Hello. I am trying to build a package, but it seems that no matter what I do I cannot get LD use proper paths during build stage. This is my full recipe (without dependencies, but it is do_compile that fails for this recipe) and the error output: http://pastebin.com/7m6172iD Anyone have some pointers? :) | 12:42 |
| bluelightning | fenrig: once the SDK has been installed you should be able to run qemu-system-<arch> | 12:43 |
| bluelightning | Stygia: you shouldn't be touching ${D} until do_install | 12:45 |
| bluelightning | Stygia: that's likely the root of your issue there | 12:45 |
| Stygia | bluelightning, Hmm alright, I was under the impression that without D prefixed, I would be instructing LD and the other tools to install into my actual root system? | 12:46 |
| Stygia | bluelightning, And can/should I still do DESTDIR=${D}? | 12:47 |
| bluelightning | Stygia: yes you should, but only within do_install | 12:47 |
| fenrig | bluelightning: I can't use qemu-system-<arch> and I'd like to integrate it into eclipse :/ | 12:47 |
| bluelightning | fenrig: I'm afraid I don't know anything about eclipse integration | 12:47 |
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| fenrig | http://www.yoctoproject.org/docs/current/dev-manual/dev-manual.html#configuring-the-target-options | 12:48 |
| fenrig | I was following this (incomplete) guide | 12:48 |
| fenrig | but at the settings it doens't really help at pointing at the right things :o | 12:49 |
| fenrig | it's really general | 12:49 |
| bluelightning | Stygia: otherwise, any dependencies should be picked up from the sysroot and output just goes to the directory in which you're building (the current directory or ${B} if you need to refer to it explicitly, which you shouldn't in most cases) | 12:50 |
| Stygia | bluelightning, Ah yes, now I'm back to my original problem, my cross-platform linker gives this error: | arm-poky-linux-gnueabi-ld: warning: library search path "/usr/local/lib" is unsafe for cross-compilation | 12:50 |
| Stygia | bluelightning, Hmm. I was actually trying to achieve the exact opposite, to prevent LD from using /usr/local/lib and other paths on my system. | 12:51 |
| bluelightning | Stygia: right, it shouldn't be looking at your host system | 12:51 |
| Stygia | bluelightning, That's why I wanted to set LDFLAGS to ${D}${something}, but that didn't work for me. | 12:51 |
| Stygia | bluelightning, this is the command that fails: | arm-poky-linux-gnueabi-ld --sysroot=/mnt/dev/fsl-community-bsp/build/tmp/sysroots/imx6qsabresd -shared -L/usr/local/lib -fstack-protector -Wl,-Bsymbolic SQLite.o dbdimp.o sqlite3.o -o blib/arch/auto/DBD/SQLite/SQLite.so | 12:52 |
| Stygia | bluelightning, I was (mistakenly) hoping that adding ${D} in front of L in LDFLAGS would make it stop doing this. | 12:52 |
| Stygia | Well actually it _does_ make it stop doing that, giving the other error in my pastebin. | 12:52 |
| Stygia | bluelightning, There is _one_ source file - not mine, part of the module - that directly refers to /usr/local/include/ | 12:53 |
| Stygia | bluelightning, I have considered just sed'ing this file... but I realize that would be evil. | 12:54 |
| bluelightning | Stygia: it's just that the sysroot is not ${D}, it's ${STAGING_DIR_HOST} | 12:55 |
| bluelightning | Stygia: if the path is genuinely hardcoded and can't be overridden by passing in the path, sed'ing is the only option | 12:56 |
| Stygia | bluelightning, Well... alright. I will do that then, I think, hoping it helps. | 12:57 |
| Stygia | bluelightning, Hmm. What should I substitute for /usr/local/lib, ${libdir}? | 12:59 |
| bluelightning | Stygia: I would think so yes | 13:00 |
| Stygia | bluelightning, Thanks, I'll try. | 13:00 |
| Stygia | bluelightning, You, by the way, are the single most friendly and helpful person I"ve found on IRC. | 13:00 |
| bluelightning | Stygia: you're welcome :) | 13:00 |
| Stygia | bluelightning, The last couple of weeks of working with this would have sucked a _lot_ if not for you and rburton | 13:01 |
| Stygia | bluelightning, So hang in there. ;) | 13:01 |
| bluelightning | Stygia: I have the impression perl isn't really designed with cross-compilation in mind, so you have probably jumped in at the deep end :) | 13:02 |
| bluelightning | Stygia: I feel rewarded when people are successful with the system, so I'd say the same to you :) | 13:03 |
| Stygia | bluelightning, Hehe, yes, this has been kinda fun. But it has taken me about a week + to even run my script, and I'm still working on it. | 13:03 |
| Stygia | Okay, so it's roughly 1,000 lines of perl, and it works with our API and does a lot of work, but still. | 13:04 |
| Stygia | bluelightning, Once I finish all this I'll try and commit what I've done into OE proper... oe-classic? | 13:06 |
| bluelightning | Stygia: if you have a number of additional recipes it might be worth creating a separate layer | 13:07 |
| bluelightning | oe-classic is the old, no longer really maintained version of OE | 13:07 |
| Stygia | bluelightning, Ah right. Well we do already have a layer, but it's company-specific. | 13:08 |
| bluelightning | Stygia: sure, in this case I figure it would be a generic layer for perl recipes that are additional to the ones already in OE-Core | 13:09 |
| Stygia | bluelightning, Hmm alright, well I'll look into that once I'm done. | 13:12 |
| Stygia | bluelightning, Question, is there a reason sed in BB doesn't take / for a delimiter but wants :? It weirds me out, I'm so used to PCRE | 13:12 |
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| bluelightning | Stygia: it should accept / but of course if you're dealing with strings that contain / that could be problematic, best to use : or ! or some other symbol | 13:13 |
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| hsychla | hi guys, quick question: at the beginning of my bitbake build, all recipes are parsed. can I then, while the build is running, work on the recipes and layers or could that produce build errors if a recipe changes? | 13:14 |
| rburton | Stygia: note that the delimiter in sed is up to the person writing the expression | 13:14 |
| bluelightning | hsychla: I think recipes can get re-read during the build process so you should avoid doing that | 13:15 |
| Stygia | rburton, Yes... this is what I thought, actually. I just seemingly can't get sed to work from bb when it does work from bash. But I think I"m doing something wrong | 13:15 |
| hsychla | bluelightning: thanks for the quick answer! not the answer I was hoping for but that's not your fault... :) | 13:16 |
| mshakeel | rburton: Can you please comment here further: http://patches.openembedded.org/patch/53489/ ; sorry about formatting, I did email client update and all settings messed up | 13:16 |
| rburton | mshakeel: ah yes, sorry | 13:18 |
| rburton | Stygia: feel free to pastebin something in case its a silly typo | 13:19 |
| Stygia | rburton, I will if I still can't get this to work in a while. But I have read it so many times, I don't think I typo'd again. | 13:19 |
| Stygia | rburton, Plus... regular expressions is one thing I have _tons_ of experience with, so if I'm doing the wrong I'll be pissy. | 13:19 |
| bluelightning | Stygia: can you give an example sed command that doesn't work? | 13:20 |
| Stygia | bluelightning, sed -i 's/\/usr\/local\/lib\//${libdir}/g' sqlite3.c | 13:22 |
| Stygia | bluelightning, But I made this pass by using : for a delimiter. | 13:22 |
| ant_work | guys, in some cases a brute patch is easier... | 13:22 |
| bluelightning | Stygia: ${libdir} contains slashes though | 13:22 |
| bluelightning | Stygia: surely that's what would break it? | 13:22 |
| Stygia | bluelightning, Yes, but I have this expression in by do_configure_pretend and it does not complain: sed -i 's:\./configure\(.[^-]\):./configure --build=${BUILD_SYS} --host=${HOST_SYS} --target=${TARGET_SYS} --prefix=${prefix} --exec_prefix=${exec_prefix} --bindir=${bindir} --sbindir=${sbindir} --libexecdir=${libexecdir} --datadir=${datadir} --sysconfdir=${sysconfdir} --sharedstatedir=${sharedstatedir} --localstatedir=${localstatedir} --libdir= | 13:22 |
| Stygia | ${libdir} --includedir=${includedir} --oldincludedir=${oldincludedir} --infodir=${infodir} --mandir=${mandir}\1:' Makefile.PL | 13:22 |
| Stygia | bluelightning, Uh sorry, was a bit longer than I itended. | 13:22 |
| bluelightning | Stygia: sure, but there you've specified that the separator is : so slashes wouldn't be an issue in that expression | 13:23 |
| Stygia | bluelightning, This is what I'm currently using: sed -i 's:\/usr\/local\/lib:${libdir}:g' sqlite3.c | 13:23 |
| bluelightning | Stygia: sure | 13:24 |
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| bluelightning | Stygia: when ${libdir} gets expanded the original statement will become this: sed -i 's/\/usr\/local\/lib\///usr/lib/g' sqlite3.c | 13:25 |
| Stygia | bluelightning, But it doesn't seem to prevent the error with LD using /usr/local/lib... | 13:25 |
| bluelightning | Stygia: there has to be another reference somewhere then, or a path you're not overriding by passing it in | 13:25 |
| Stygia | bluelightning, Yes, I assume so. I'll try and find the local copy of sqlite3.c and see what happens to it. | 13:26 |
| Stygia | bluelightning, but grep -ri "/usr/local/lib" in the extracted folder only shows one entry in sqlite3.c, though. | 13:26 |
| bluelightning | Stygia: btw, have you been using the OE-Classic recipes as a reference at all? some of these recipes have already been written there and should only need migrating | 13:27 |
| Stygia | bluelightning, Yes, I have. | 13:28 |
| Stygia | bluelightning, http://cgit.openembedded.org/openembedded/tree/recipes/perl/libdbd-sqlite-perl_1.31.bb this recipe fails for me, though, complaining about Makefile.PL | 13:28 |
| Stygia | bluelightning, What happens at times with the CPAN meta class, but I'll work-around it I hope. | 13:29 |
| bluelightning | Stygia: hmm... I would have thought the answer would be to continue to use cpan.bbclass and fix or override it where needed rather than re-doing everything by hand | 13:30 |
| Stygia | bluelightning, Usually it is. But this recipe is troublesome. | 13:32 |
| Stygia | bluelightning, And, hmm. Now I've substituted it successfully for ${libdir}. But it still stops and complains that -L/usr/local/lib is insecure for cross-compilation. I can resolve that by doing LDFLAGS = "-L${D}${libdir}", but then it complains that ..../image/usr/lib, in spite of that location existing. | 13:33 |
| bluelightning | Stygia: as I mentioned, ${D} isn't the sysroot | 13:34 |
| bluelightning | Stygia: ${STAGING_LIBDIR} is probably what you want (which includes ${libdir}) | 13:34 |
| Stygia | bluelightning, Oh wait, right. I'll try that. ${D} is the destination sysroot, the place from which the "real", eventual system is build, which is why I should only bother with it in do_install... yea? | 13:35 |
| bluelightning | Stygia: ${D} is the destination directory yes, and yes | 13:36 |
| bluelightning | Stygia: these are the kinds of details that a central class is supposed to help avoid you having to deal with ;) | 13:37 |
| Stygia | bluelightning, Heh yea I know. The CPAN class _usually_ works great, but it's harder to troubleshoot when it does complain. | 13:37 |
| Stygia | bluelightning, Question, is oe-classic maintained? If their recipe for perl-module-dbd-sqlite doesn't build ATM, can I try and commit my own recipe instead? | 13:38 |
| bluelightning | Stygia: no, we prefer to get recipes working on top of OE-Core and find a layer to publish up-to-date recipes in (if one doesn't already exist) | 13:38 |
| Stygia | bluelightning, Ah, right. I think the "perl" layer layer will be fine, if it still exists in OE-core. Or devtools. | 13:39 |
| Stygia | bluelightning, I've been told (by rburton, IIRC) that I"ve build practically all of metacpan by now. | 13:39 |
| rburton | well, a start of it :) | 13:40 |
| bluelightning | Stygia: OE-Core is one layer; but we probably wouldn't add these to OE-Core itself since they aren't needed by most folks, a separate layer is probably the way to go | 13:40 |
| rburton | i can see merit in a meta-cpan or something like that | 13:41 |
| Stygia | rburton, Yea, I could create that layer I suppose. I wouldn't even mind maintaining it, not by this point. | 13:45 |
| Stygia | And hmm. I have still not been able to make it work, using STAGING_LIBDIR. It gives the same error as using LIBDIR in LDFLAGS: http://pastebin.com/CabBU7YJ (recipe and errors included). Not tampering with LDFLAGS makes it try and -L/usr/local/lib which generates an error. | 13:46 |
| Stygia | The folder most definitively exists, it contains lots of files. | 13:47 |
| rburton | Stygia: one sec, i'm just getting that statement witnessed by a lawyer | 13:50 |
| zibri | stygia: does Makefile.PL take an -L flag? | 13:50 |
| Stygia | zibri, I don't think it takes options at all, it has no help and when I skimmed the source I didn't see opt parsing. | 13:53 |
| zibri | i don't think so at least... i can't find it in any reference to in the source. | 13:53 |
| Stygia | zibri, Heh same conclusion I made. | 13:53 |
| zibri | stygia: i does take stuff like PREFIX=/lolol | 13:53 |
| zibri | but that's all i think | 13:53 |
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| Stygia | zibri, Hmm okay, I missed that, then. | 13:54 |
| Stygia | zibri, But for now, it says that a directory which most certainly does exist doesn't. I'm probably misinterpreting the error output, but I"m sorta running out of ideas on where to look/what to try. | 13:54 |
| zibri | stygia: note that -L | 13:54 |
| zibri | ehrm, it complains about a path beginning with -L | 13:55 |
| Stygia | zibri, But I'm pretty sure this is how LD works, isn't it? Before I even tampered with LD at all it said complained about -L/usr/local/lib being insecure | 13:55 |
| Stygia | zibri, It's LD which fails, and I am/was under the impression that -L/path/something and -R/some/path is the right way to do it | 13:56 |
| zibri | yes, but you do "perl Makefile.PL ${LDFLAGS} ..." | 13:56 |
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| zibri | ehm, sorry my bad. that's do_configure | 13:56 |
| Stygia | zibri, I'll try, but IIRC I did this already, and it will complain about -L/usr/local/lib? | 13:56 |
| zibri | stygia: ah, in do_compile you start the command by doing ${LDFLAGS}, i.e. trying to execute -L${STAGING_LIBDIR} | 13:57 |
| Stygia | zibri, I tried LDFLAGS=${LDFLAGS}, too | 13:57 |
| Stygia | zibri, With it just dies saying that -L/usr/local/lib is insecure for cross-compliation | 13:57 |
| zibri | look at line 32 in your paste, it's missing the actual command | 13:57 |
| zibri | ah | 13:58 |
| Stygia | zibri, Which is why I tihnk this LD stuff is sorta right, it does prevent that error and instead creates _another_ error that -R/mnt/dev/fsl-community-bsp/build/tmp/sysroots/imx6qsabresd/usr/lib: not found | 13:58 |
| zibri | LDFLAGS=${LDFLAGS} is at least more correct than the line in the paste | 13:58 |
| Stygia | zibri, Ah well. | 13:58 |
| Stygia | bluelightning, Hmm. Doing do_compile, should I be using STAGING_X instead of X varibales? | 14:01 |
| bluelightning | Stygia: I assume so yes | 14:02 |
| fenrig | are there any good sdk documentation, cause I'm really stuck :/ | 14:02 |
| Stygia | fenrig, http://docs.openembedded.org/usermanual/usermanual.html These is this manual, which is the best I've found | 14:03 |
| bluelightning | that manual is quite out-of-date by now though | 14:03 |
| Stygia | fenrig, IMHO OE/BB documentation is in need of some TLC. | 14:03 |
| Stygia | bluelightning, Ah. | 14:03 |
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| bluelightning | you really want to be using the Yocto Project documentation | 14:03 |
| Stygia | bluelightning, Well I always, always have problems finding proper documentation for it, though. | 14:04 |
| Stygia | bluelightning, Yocto project docs? Hmm alright. | 14:04 |
| Stygia | fenrig, Just listen to bluelightning he knows this way better than me | 14:04 |
| fenrig | oh yeah, and where does the difference from angstrom en yocto come from. Angstrom SDK generated a "native" tool directory and Yocto generetad some scripts :/ | 14:04 |
| bluelightning | https://www.yoctoproject.org/documentation/current | 14:04 |
| fenrig | bluelightning: Those documentation aren't really complete enough | 14:04 |
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| bluelightning | fenrig: I realise that for your purposes, but they really are much more up-to-date than the OE manual linked above | 14:05 |
| fenrig | bluelightning: sometimes they are unclear. they seem to look nice but in reality they are everything but complete :/ | 14:05 |
| bluelightning | fenrig: we do accept bug reports for the documentation | 14:05 |
| bluelightning | in fact we would really appreciate them | 14:06 |
| fenrig | bluelightning: yes well I can report some bugs, but that won't really get my much farther at this moment. | 14:06 |
| fenrig | *further | 14:06 |
| bluelightning | fenrig: I really want to help you but the problem I have is I don't regularly use the SDK nor do I use Eclipse... | 14:06 |
| bluelightning | fenrig: if nobody else here can advise you I'd suggest you try posting the complete issue to the mailing list | 14:07 |
| fenrig | bluelightning: okay will do, hope this will help me :) | 14:08 |
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| Stygia | bluelightning, If I want to write my own do_install etc while using cpan/autotools, this is when I set BBCLASSEXTEND = "native", yes? | 14:14 |
| bluelightning | Stygia: er, no, BBCLASSEXTEND = "native" creates a -native variant of your recipe for building for the host | 14:16 |
| bluelightning | (building for the build host that is) | 14:16 |
| bluelightning | Stygia: if you want to specify your own do_install, just specify it after the inherit line | 14:16 |
| Stygia | bluelightning, Ah, right. Thanks. Hmm is there a system variable for /usr/share/, or /usr/local? I haven't found any in the manuals I have available | 14:17 |
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| bluelightning | Stygia: /usr/share is ${datadir}; /usr/local isn't a normal install path so we don't have a variable for that | 14:21 |
| fenrig | bluelightning: I mailed the mailing list, thx for helping me out | 14:24 |
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| Stygia | bluelightning, Thanks, I will do that, and then use sed for /usr/local which _is_ being installed to by this program. | 14:30 |
| Stygia | bluelightning, I'm gonna go file a bug for /usr/local not having a variable | 14:31 |
| bluelightning | Stygia: I don't think that's a bug | 14:31 |
| bluelightning | Stygia: when pieces of software install stuff into /usr/local instead of ${prefix}, that is a bug in the way the software is being built | 14:31 |
| Stygia | bluelightning, But now, instead of having to the _option_ of redirecting /usr/local, I have to sed the makefile | 14:32 |
| bluelightning | Stygia: having a variable won't fix that though | 14:32 |
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| bluelightning | Stygia: I would recommend filing a bug with upstream to make it not hardcode /usr/local | 14:33 |
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| Stygia | bluelightning, Wouldn't it? Wouldn't it allow me to ensure /usr/local didn't get used directly? | 14:45 |
| Stygia | bluelightning, Like with the other variables. | 14:45 |
| bluelightning | Stygia: just having the variable wouldn't affect building your recipe, no | 14:45 |
| bluelightning | Stygia: you'd have to pass in the alternative path somehow, and if that's possible you can just do that now | 14:46 |
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| Stygia | bluelightning, Ah. Well fair enough. AFAIK it isn't, we're SED'ing like crazy here. | 14:48 |
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| bluelightning | Stygia: this doesn't make sense though, when I install these perl libraries on my normal distro, they certainly do not go into /usr/local | 14:52 |
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| Stygia | bluelightning, Hmm. DBD::SQLite? | 14:52 |
| Stygia | bluelightning, This _is_ the first CPAN module that has been bothering me about this particular thing, though. | 14:53 |
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| Stygia | bluelightning, Which is weird, since its' by Stephen Mueller, one of the 3 people who apparently wrote like 80% of all the modules on metacpan. :P | 14:53 |
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| Stygia | Gisle Aas being the absolute king. | 14:53 |
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| bluelightning | Stygia: http://pastebin.com/UpWPRPUY | 14:55 |
| bluelightning | (this is on Ubuntu) | 14:55 |
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| Stygia | bluelightning, Well... the Makefile here does explicitly mention /usr/local/, and it does try to go there | 14:57 |
| Stygia | bluelightning, But I fixed it with these sed's though: sed -i 's:\/usr\/local:${D}/usr/local:g' Makefile | 14:58 |
| Stygia | sed -i 's:\/usr\/share:${D}/usr/share:g' Makefile | 14:58 |
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| bluelightning | Stygia: I'm tempted to suggest looking at how Debian / Fedora /etc. build this specific piece of software | 14:58 |
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| Stygia | bluelightning, But now I get: http://pastebin.com/5UK1ypXw, which I thought I could resolve by making a recipe for perl-module-extutils-typemap, which I did and added to RDEPENDS_${PN}, but no luck. | 14:59 |
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| tomz2 | YPTM: Tom here | 15:02 |
| b46258 | Matthew Weigel here | 15:03 |
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| Song_Liu | YPTM: Any open? | 15:03 |
| * fray is going on vacation and won't be around for a week or so.. | 15:03 | |
| pidge | YPTM: Dialing in | 15:03 |
| cristianiorga | YPTM: Cristian joined | 15:03 |
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| AlexG | YPTM: The QA report for last week is ready: https://wiki.yoctoproject.org/wiki/WW28_-_2013-07-10-1_-_Weekly_Yocto_1.5_M2 | 15:05 |
| jzhang-laptop | YPTM: jzhang on the call | 15:05 |
| Stygia | YPTM? Yocto project team meeting? | 15:05 |
| zeddii | YPTM: Bruce Ashfield on the call. | 15:05 |
| sgw_ | Stygia: yes | 15:05 |
| Song_Liu | Stygia: yes | 15:05 |
| Stygia | Thanks. :) | 15:05 |
| fray | open to the community -- 972-995-7777 x 42001078# | 15:06 |
| sgw_ | Stygia: your welcome to join, fray beat me to the number | 15:06 |
| Ramana | YPTM: Ramana here | 15:07 |
| sgw_ | zeddii: you on? | 15:07 |
| zeddii | <zeddii> YPTM: Bruce Ashfield on the call. | 15:07 |
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| davest | Song_Liu: can you please post the link to the M2 release criteria? Having proxy problems | 15:11 |
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| Song_Liu | YPTM: https://wiki.yoctoproject.org/wiki/Yocto_Project_v1.5_Status#Milestone_2 | 15:15 |
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| fray | FYI, M2 suffered from toolchain transition issues and other issues.. which we've since corrected (I think).. so release note is "good enough" | 15:18 |
| fray | I agree an preview/RC0? is a good idea if they have the cycles while avoiding further M2 work | 15:21 |
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| AlexG | YPTM: need to drop the call. See you next week! | 15:25 |
| Song_Liu | AlexG: sure. thank you | 15:26 |
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| sgw_ | Song_Liu: thanks for running the YPTM | 15:29 |
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| Stygia | zibri, And as you wish. | 15:39 |
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| zibri | stygia: is your layer available somewhere? using the cpan bbclass seems to work-ish, but i lack DBI, so i can't Makefile.PL to generate a Makefile. (Also, the Makefile.PL exits with 0 in that case, so do_configure() doesn't fail :-( ) | 16:00 |
| Stygia | zibri, Not yet, but I could easily upload it (we do intend to open it). I could also just send you the DBI recipe, would that work? | 16:00 |
| zibri | yes, probably, as long as it doesn't have any other dependencies not available :) | 16:01 |
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| Stygia | zibri, http://pastebin.com/CbdfCft8 | 16:04 |
| zibri | thx | 16:04 |
| Stygia | zibri, I think it _may_, hang on | 16:04 |
| Stygia | zibri, Huh, no. DBI has no dependencies on CPAN | 16:05 |
| Stygia | zibri, Ah, but DBD::SQLite does, one of which (Tie::Hash) I have no recipe for. | 16:05 |
| zibri | heh, i'll just comment it out for the time being ;) | 16:05 |
| Stygia | zibri, IT's not mentioned in the recipe, though. | 16:06 |
| Stygia | zibri, I just RDEPENDS_${PN} all of them in my "main" recipe (the actual script all this depends on) | 16:06 |
| Stygia | zibri, I do intend to fix that. | 16:06 |
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| Stygia | zibri, I'll be leaving for the day BTW | 16:09 |
| Stygia | zibri, Heh, I get paid to do this ATM. ^_^ | 16:09 |
| zibri | heh | 16:09 |
| zibri | i just love perl i guess :) | 16:10 |
| Stygia | zibri, Heh, perl is nice. Although... I will honestly admit I have lost my love for it after meeting Python. | 16:10 |
| Stygia | zibri, There are certain things just missing from Perl that, IMHO, make it fit for small-ish projects but not for larger programs. | 16:11 |
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| RichBayliss | hey anyone about? | 16:39 |
| RichBayliss | I have a quick question regarding recipes for Yocto/BitBake | 16:39 |
| mr_science | go ahead, spit it out... | 16:39 |
| RichBayliss | I am building an application which requires a "normal" user account to run | 16:39 |
| RichBayliss | like apache would do, running in "www-data" for example | 16:39 |
| mr_science | yes... | 16:39 |
| RichBayliss | so how would I get my recipe to add this into the system | 16:39 |
| mr_science | you can inherit useradd | 16:39 |
| RichBayliss | genius.. so inherit useradd, then presumably some variable to specify the details? | 16:40 |
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| RichBayliss | (I am very very new to this, btw) | 16:40 |
| mr_science | yup | 16:40 |
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| mr_science | me too, in terms of the latest meta-* stuff | 16:41 |
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| mr_science | mostly still use oe-classic | 16:41 |
| RichBayliss | I think I have it... | 16:41 |
| RichBayliss | in meta-skelleton is an example, duh - appologies for the dumb question :D | 16:41 |
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| sgw_ | RichBayliss: basiclly it takes useradd parameters so you can set everything, no dumb questions here! | 16:41 |
| RichBayliss | mr_science - thankyou very much, I will go try it | 16:42 |
| RichBayliss | cheers guys | 16:42 |
| RichBayliss | fingers crossed! :D | 16:42 |
| RichBayliss | it builds! time to do an image and test it on my RPi! Thanks guys - been smashing my head into the keyboard over this for a couple of hours :( | 16:45 |
| mr_science | i usually grep for examples... | 16:46 |
| mr_science | so is there any kind of yocto/poky setup guide for remote gdb? | 16:49 |
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| mr_science | seeing a little bit of mailing list traffic... | 16:51 |
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| kergoth | mr_science: there's nothing yocto/oe specific about it at all. install gdbserver, run it as you would on any linux systemm, connect with gdb as with any remote connection | 16:58 |
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| RichBayliss | BRILL! Image compiled and working fine - thanks guys, much appreciated! | 17:16 |
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| -YoctoAutoBuilder- build #207 of nightly-arm is complete: Failure [failed Running Sanity Tests] Build details are at http://autobuilder.yoctoproject.org:8011/builders/nightly-arm/builds/207 | 17:59 | |
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| mr_science | kergoth: nothing about installing *-dbg packages or other setup stuff specific to OE? | 18:13 |
| adam__ | Good morning! Can I get some pointers patching an existing .bb file? This recipe has multiple patches already. I simply want to patch the .bb file from a .bbappend in my own layer | 18:14 |
| mr_science | just make a .bbappend and add what you need | 18:15 |
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| mr_science | normally you can just d_foo_append() {} your own functions, etc | 18:15 |
| adam__ | mr_science: ya.. I realized as soon as i hit the enter key | 18:16 |
| mr_science | eg, do_install_append() { add your code } | 18:16 |
| mr_science | you can _append most things... | 18:17 |
| adam__ | mr_science: i'm bitbaking again with the list of files removed in my bbappend | 18:17 |
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| mr_science | the list of patch files? | 18:18 |
| mr_science | is there a newer upstream version than the existing recipe? | 18:18 |
| adam__ | mr_science: hmm yes. The story is this - I have a recipe that contains some patches. And I simply want to patch the recipe's bb file. This recipe is in a different layer from my own. | 18:18 |
| ftonello | is there any other way to find dependencies chain instead of "bitbake -g -u depexp"? | 18:19 |
| ftonello | because the dependency in -u depexp is wrong.. | 18:19 |
| rburton | ftonello: just bitbake -g will write dot files, so you can see the raw deps | 18:19 |
| rburton | ftonello: but if you've found a bug in depexp, mail me with a way to reproduce :) | 18:19 |
| ftonello | libnss-mdns triggers avahi, but nothing triggers libnss-mdns :( | 18:19 |
| ftonello | its not a bug there I think.. | 18:20 |
| mr_science | adam__: what specifically do you want to change from the existing recipe? | 18:20 |
| ftonello | so avahi is been installed in my image without no one trigering it.. make any sense? | 18:20 |
| mr_science | several things could pull in avahi as a dep... | 18:20 |
| mr_science | pretty much anything that needs zereconf support... | 18:21 |
| mr_science | *zeroconf even | 18:21 |
| adam__ | mr_science: i need to modify the pkg_postinst behavior of the original recipe | 18:21 |
| rburton | ftonello: you might find it coming in through an image feature that doesn't always appear in depexp | 18:21 |
| adam__ | mr_science: can i simply overwrite the entire pkg_postinst fuction from my bbappened? | 18:22 |
| mr_science | adam__: so you want to override the existing function? | 18:22 |
| mr_science | yes, that's what i was going to say... | 18:22 |
| mr_science | just replace the fucntion rather than _append to it | 18:23 |
| rburton | ftonello: specifically, DISTRO_FEATURES defaults to "zeroconf", so packagegroup-base will depend on libnss-mdns -> avahi. | 18:23 |
| rburton | ftonello: if you don't want any zeroconf support, drop that from your distro | 18:24 |
| rburton | (yes, this needs to be better expressed in depexp) | 18:24 |
| rburton | in this case, chasing the deps through "git grep" works | 18:24 |
| rburton | libnss-mdns -> avahi -> packagegroup-base -> adds deps on DISTRO_FEATURE | 18:25 |
| ftonello | rburton: hmm | 18:25 |
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| kergoth | mr_science: add dbg-pkgs to IMAGE_FEATURES if you want the debug symbols on the target | 18:26 |
| ftonello | rburton: how do I chase deps using git grep? | 18:26 |
| ftonello | rburton: also, how do I remove this from my DISTRO_FEATURES? because my distro features I use += operator | 18:26 |
| rburton | ftonello: you'll have to set it outright | 18:26 |
| rburton | use bitbake -e to get the full current value | 18:27 |
| ftonello | rburton: yeah | 18:27 |
| ftonello | thanks | 18:27 |
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| adam__ | mr_science: cool i am replacing the functions entirely. Thanks! | 18:33 |
| mr_science | np | 18:48 |
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| adam__ | Good afternoon everyone, I'd like to add a user for my desktop image. Should I create a recipe that uses adduser or is there a class that handles this in OE/Yocto? | 20:22 |
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| bluelightning | adam__: so atm the only way is to use a separate recipe; however patches are in review to allow adding a user outside of recipes for the kind of purpose you're presumably needing it for | 20:29 |
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| adam__ | bluelightning: ahh great thanks! | 20:31 |
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| mr_science | bluelightning: as in create a non-root user with a known password? | 20:44 |
| b1gtuna | mr_science: i hope so? | 20:50 |
| bluelightning | mr_science: b1gtuna: correct | 20:53 |
| mr_science | i currently have that hacked into my custom_rootfs_postprocess | 20:54 |
| mr_science | would be much nicer with real bbclass support... | 20:54 |
| mr_science | i should go look at those patches... | 20:55 |
| b1gtuna | mr_science: do you mind sharing it with me? I can't login through GDM at the moment haha | 20:55 |
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| mr_science | bigtuna: something like this => http://paste2.org/cEy60fh5 | 21:00 |
| mr_science | where <uname> is the name of your user account | 21:01 |
| mr_science | you'll also need to hash the password and replace <hashed-passwd> | 21:01 |
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| mr_science | er,, b1gtuna ... | 21:02 |
| b1gtuna | mr_science: nice | 21:03 |
| sgw_ | mr_science: why could you not use the useradd class for this? | 21:03 |
| mr_science | that's inside a "fakeroot custom_rootfs_postprocess() {}" function in my image recipe | 21:04 |
| mr_science | it's oe-classic | 21:04 |
| mr_science | don't think arago has that | 21:04 |
| sgw_ | mr_science: I think only maybe the sudoer's file would be an issue. Ah oe-classic, not oe-core. | 21:04 |
| mr_science | yup, in my rpi build i would definitely use it... | 21:05 |
| * mr_science makes a mental note to add a non-root user to the rpi build | 21:05 | |
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| b1gtuna | bluelightning: Can you point me to the patch set that adds user creation? | 21:48 |
| b1gtuna | bluelightning: thanks | 21:48 |
| bluelightning | b1gtuna: sure one sec | 21:48 |
| b1gtuna | bluelightning: :) | 21:48 |
| bluelightning | b1gtuna: http://lists.openembedded.org/pipermail/openembedded-core/2013-July/081320.html | 21:50 |
| bluelightning | b1gtuna: there's still some feedback on it though so it may need further work | 21:50 |
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| b1gtuna | bluelightning: Ah I see. This will be really nice once it's completed. It's a little pain configuring users manually | 21:53 |
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| mr_science | yeah, the image hack is exactly that . a hack... | 21:54 |
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| b1gtuna | mr_science: btw are you using systemd on your images? | 21:55 |
| mr_science | not currently | 22:01 |
| mr_science | don't think it's in arago (oe-classic) and i specifically made my rpi image "light" so i don't have systemd in any features | 22:02 |
| mr_science | just old-school init scripts and update-rc.d | 22:02 |
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| b1gtuna | mr_science: cool thanks | 22:07 |
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| mr_science | it's all on github if you really want to see it... | 22:10 |
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| mr_science | https://github.com/sarnold/meta-raspberrypi | 22:10 |
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| lpapp_ | hmm, is hob stable? | 22:29 |
| lpapp_ | it freezes for me when selecting the architecture. | 22:29 |
| lpapp_ | oh, it just takes long time to parse the corresponding recipes. | 22:29 |
| ant_home | lpapp: atm I found an issue with hob, it is creating its own TMPDIR | 22:30 |
| ant_home | seems the bug is aknowledged | 22:30 |
| lpapp_ | the ui does not seem that complex. | 22:31 |
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| b1gtuna | mr_science: thanks i will take a look | 22:40 |
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| lpapp_ | any reason why hob does not have its own repository? | 22:48 |
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| bluelightning | lpapp_: its code is heavily tied to the interface of bitbake | 22:48 |
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| lpapp_ | bluelightning: means? | 22:53 |
| bluelightning | lpapp_: meaning, when bitbake's internals change hob needs to be updated to match, and during development this happens frequently | 22:54 |
| lpapp_ | bluelightning: I am still not sure how that limits the repository separation. | 22:55 |
| bluelightning | lpapp_: it's a lot easier for users grabbing the hob code to get something that correctly matches up if bitbake and hob are in the same repo | 22:55 |
| lpapp_ | bluelightning: why ? | 22:55 |
| lpapp_ | btw, users should use releases? | 22:55 |
| bluelightning | lpapp_: a lot of users track master | 22:56 |
| bluelightning | more than in other projects | 22:56 |
| lpapp_ | is that really the majority? | 22:56 |
| lpapp_ | usually, it is the very minor portion in projects, really. | 22:56 |
| bluelightning | it's a significant percentage, I don't have numbers | 22:56 |
| lpapp_ | but even then, they are on their own. | 22:56 |
| lpapp_ | if it is documented what to fetch, it is probably not a big deal. | 22:56 |
| lpapp_ | or with git submodules. | 22:56 |
| lpapp_ | as a user, I think, it would actually make it clearer to use with proper separation. | 22:57 |
| ant_home | wrt master, we have been rarely left with broken bitabke and that couple of times it was on weekend ;) | 22:58 |
| ant_home | RP,^ | 22:58 |
| lpapp_ | I am not sure why unmodularization is thought as simpler rather than more complex. | 22:59 |
| bluelightning | we've never provided a stable interface for UIs, and we do not wish to do so | 23:00 |
| bluelightning | splitting out the UIs will just bring demands for that stable interface | 23:00 |
| lpapp_ | well, I would like to write a Qt/QML ui, but that kinda scares me. :) | 23:00 |
| lpapp_ | off* | 23:00 |
| lpapp_ | bluelightning: why? | 23:00 |
| lpapp_ | it should be an internal detail for ui releases. | 23:00 |
| lpapp_ | provided, users do not upgrade bitbake. | 23:01 |
| lpapp_ | just together with the ui | 23:01 |
| bluelightning | lpapp_: cf the Linux kernel's internal interfaces, which are similarly guaranteed not to be stable | 23:01 |
| lpapp_ | IMO, this repository separation is irrelevant to stability. | 23:01 |
| lpapp_ | it would just help developers to have a clear separation. | 23:02 |
| lpapp_ | and those who wanna work with both, they can fetch both submodules with git, then. | 23:03 |
| kergoth` | I'd be in favor of a proper UI API which would make it easier to create separate projects with separate executable bitbake interfaces, personally, but we've historically not done a good job of maintaining bitbake's APIs and API versioning | 23:05 |
| lpapp_ | I do not see what a UI api would mean or help with, in here. | 23:06 |
| lpapp_ | bluelightning: so what is the recommended way of creating a qbitbake frontend? | 23:06 |
| bluelightning | lpapp_: as far as I'm concerned, there should be nothing stopping you from doing so; just use how hob works as an example | 23:07 |
| lpapp_ | bluelightning: meaning, putting stuff into the poky repository? | 23:08 |
| bluelightning | lpapp_: well, that's the pattern we've been following up to now with UIs | 23:09 |
| bluelightning | lpapp_: to be precise, the bitbake repository (poky just copies bitbake in almost verbatim) | 23:09 |
| lpapp_ | bluelightning: http://cgit.openembedded.org/bitbake/ this one or berlios? | 23:11 |
| bluelightning | lpapp_: the one on openembedded.org | 23:12 |
| lpapp_ | berlios was closed if I recall correctly. | 23:12 |
| lpapp_ | bluelightning: hmm, I need to call python API from C++... | 23:13 |
| lpapp_ | or just calling the executable directly with the relevant options. | 23:14 |
| lpapp_ | from QML, to be precise, but I likely need some C++ helper. | 23:14 |
| * bluelightning needs sleep... goodnight all | 23:18 | |
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| ftonello | If I change an RDEPEND of a package.. do I have to do bitbake -c cleansstate and rebuild it in order that an image that installs that package installs with the correct REPENDS? | 23:56 |
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