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| otavio | kergoth: Can you comment on uboot-config class concept? | 02:35 |
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| sgw1 | otavio: finally got a build started with you fs-arm marked as master-next with MUT | 05:27 |
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| vicky | hi yocto. I m trying to add libhid package on meta.I added successfully and when trying to compile it taking libusb from /lib directory. So i m getting error as http://pastebin.com/JvkbDppj | 06:14 |
| vicky | my bb file in http://pastebin.com/SAzyPgmm | 06:16 |
| vicky | any ideas guys/ | 06:16 |
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| nerdboy | vicky: you might have better luck doing the autoreconf --cross thing | 06:50 |
| nerdboy | let autotools/libtool redo the inputs to configure, then use oe_runconf | 06:51 |
| nerdboy | look at the do_configure_prepend here => https://github.com/sarnold/meta-raspberrypi/blob/master/recipes-support/giblib/giblib.inc | 06:53 |
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| nerdboy | you might need to pass PYTHON_LDFLAGS in EXTRA_OECONF if it can't find the right python-native in the sysroot | 06:57 |
| vicky | thanks a lot nredboy. I will try it out | 07:04 |
| nerdboy | if nothing else, you could patch out the python.m4 that it uses | 07:06 |
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| thesignal | hi, I've been trying to fix this for 2 days, but i can't find a solution: whenever i bake my own kernel (i called the recipe linux-faarm) the kernel gets deployed in a subdirectory of ../ipk/morgue instead of just ../ipk ,then when i want to bitbake my image, the kernel modules are not found, because they're in that wrong directory. also, when another kernel was build before and not bitbake -c clean'ed i get "NOTE: consider defining PREFERRED_PROVIDER_vi | 07:13 |
| thesignal | has someone had the same problem and found a solution, or will i have to cleanup everything and place the files in the wrong directory to my /ipk directory? | 07:14 |
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| bluelightning | morning all | 08:01 |
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| exosyst | I've downloaded the latest poky dylan release and can't get a simple core-image-minimal to build - the cross compiler fails, as does openssl. I'm guessing these are known bugs? Are there fixes though? | 12:10 |
| exosyst | Is it better to use master or another branch from git rather than the release tarball | 12:10 |
| exosyst | ? | 12:10 |
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| Zagor | exosyst: what target are you building for? can you put up the build log on some paste site? | 12:15 |
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| exosyst | Zagor, I can make it work if I patch it with this http://patchwork.openembedded.org/patch/52387/ but I get the feeling that official releases should "Just Work" and that I'm doing something wrong? | 12:16 |
| Zagor | that's certainly a sensible feeling. which is why I'm asking for more details :-) | 12:18 |
| exosyst | pastebin.com/AcT2kyzp | 12:19 |
| exosyst | Zagor, ^^ | 12:20 |
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| exosyst | I patched the cross compiler one (there was a segfault building 4.7.2 with GCC 4.8) - I couldn't find out any errata on why it would be broken though - the fix was a bounds error in a function | 12:21 |
| Zagor | what distro are you building on? | 12:22 |
| exosyst | I've since checked out the git repo rather than the official tarball and switched to the unversioned dylan tag and that seems to work | 12:22 |
| exosyst | I'm on F19 | 12:22 |
| Zagor | right, that would explain it | 12:25 |
| exosyst | Zagor, oh? :-/ | 12:25 |
| Zagor | F19 was released after Dylan, and is thus not tested. | 12:26 |
| Zagor | that's why you get the little notice from bitbake | 12:26 |
| Zagor | grabbing from git is a better choice then | 12:26 |
| exosyst | Zagor, OK - so dylan branch is newer than dylan-9.0.1 then? | 12:27 |
| bluelightning | exosyst: yes | 12:27 |
| bluelightning | the next stable release is very close though | 12:27 |
| Crofton|work | I'm on F19 and haven't noticed any issues yet | 12:28 |
| exosyst | right - now it kinda makes sense | 12:28 |
| exosyst | Crofton, I'm doing a fairly vanilla core-image-minimal so wasn't expecting any issues. I already filed a bug for the toolchain installer script which got fixed in master (not sure if that got backported?) but the openssl thing does look like broken pod files :-/ | 12:29 |
| bluelightning | I will make sure to test on F19 before we do the next stable release | 12:31 |
| exosyst | bluelightning, Is there anything I can do to help? We deliver training materials and try and stay with the latest and greatest so even just smoketesting for the project is beneficial to us too | 12:32 |
| bluelightning | exosyst: what is in my paule/dylan-next branch in the poky-contrib repo is pretty much what should become the next release, so if you could test that that would be awesome | 12:34 |
| exosyst | bluelightning, Where would I find poky-contrib? How are you handling bug reports on it? Do you have a MAT for the project? | 12:35 |
| bluelightning | exosyst: a MAT? | 12:36 |
| bluelightning | exosyst: https://git.yoctoproject.org/cgit/cgit.cgi/poky-contrib/?h=paule/dylan-next | 12:36 |
| exosyst | bluelightning, Minimum Acceptance Test. Checklist of things that have to be tested for distro compliance etc | 12:37 |
| bluelightning | exosyst: we do have a list of QA checks this will have to go through before release; it may be hard to nail down but it's all recorded in testopia which is accessible from the yocto project bugzilla | 12:37 |
| bluelightning | exosyst: mainly I just want to make sure issues like those with gcc and openssl on F19 are fixed | 12:38 |
| bluelightning | (before we run through the "full pass" tests) | 12:38 |
| exosyst | bluelightning, So i'd need to join testopia (is that just bugzilla.yoctoproject.org ) and just keep filing bugs? | 12:40 |
| exosyst | I didn't recall a product ID for poky-contrib? How do you want issues filed? | 12:40 |
| bluelightning | exosyst: it's kind of tricky with contrib branches like this; I guess the likelihood is this one will be merged though so it's probably not a big deal to file them as if they were in master | 12:41 |
| bluelightning | or in the dylan branch in this case | 12:42 |
| exosyst | bluelightning, I'll make a note to test your branch out - is there a request-for-test you send out or is it just "try and build it once a week?" | 12:42 |
| bluelightning | exosyst: there's nothing formalised for community testing, no | 12:47 |
| rburton | bluelightning: fwiw, i've asked beth if we can get stable branches autobuilt at least weekly for basic reproducability and host OS change testing | 13:00 |
| bluelightning | rburton: that sounds like a good idea | 13:01 |
| bluelightning | rburton: that reminds me, any chance of a danny merge soon? ;) | 13:01 |
| rburton | good question | 13:02 |
| rburton | not much in danny-next, but it all looks safe | 13:03 |
| rburton | i'll re-review this afternoon and mail the list/rp | 13:03 |
| bluelightning | rburton: thanks | 13:05 |
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| eren | I'm having problems with vesafb | 13:14 |
| eren | it seems that I have wrong settings in kernel, and in the command line | 13:14 |
| eren | does anyone have experience on that topic? | 13:14 |
| exosyst | is systemd a default now? | 13:22 |
| exosyst | eren, why not just bitbake linux -c menuconfig to see if it is wrong? | 13:23 |
| eren | exosyst: I am looking, I have tried different options | 13:23 |
| exosyst | once done, just bitbake linux -c deploy | 13:23 |
| eren | apperently, I enabled both geode framebuffer and vesafb | 13:23 |
| eren | vesafb is not needed in the board, as I read now | 13:23 |
| eren | I will try different setting | 13:23 |
| eren | exosyst: what does -c deploy task do? | 13:23 |
| eren | I always use -c clean, -c menuconfig, .... , -c build | 13:24 |
| exosyst | eren, deploy just the linux image rather than the whole image | 13:24 |
| eren | ah I see | 13:24 |
| bluelightning | exosyst: no, sysvinit is still the default | 13:26 |
| bluelightning | exosyst: but systemd is now supported as an option in the core | 13:26 |
| eren | bluelightning: btw, "live" image looks problematic | 13:27 |
| eren | I will copy rootfs to the CF Card and install bootloader (say grub) | 13:27 |
| eren | however, initramfs image is missing? | 13:27 |
| bluelightning | eren: "live" does produce a separate initramfs image | 13:28 |
| eren | but it has its own init script, which expects some other media mounted on /media dir | 13:28 |
| eren | and it halts | 13:28 |
| exosyst | bluelightning, So what do I need to do to get systemd? I thought it was a DISTRO_FEATURE? | 13:28 |
| bluelightning | exosyst: it is | 13:28 |
| bluelightning | exosyst: http://www.yoctoproject.org/docs/current/dev-manual/dev-manual.html#selecting-an-initialization-manager | 13:29 |
| exosyst | bluelightning, ah cool, so DISTRO_FEATURES_append = "systemd" shoudl work | 13:29 |
| bluelightning | exosyst: if there's a leading space in the value yes | 13:29 |
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| bluelightning | exosyst: (you haven't got one in what you just typed) | 13:30 |
| exosyst | bluelightning, ah yeah - that's screwed me before | 13:30 |
| eren | bluelightning: well, I have waiting for removable media" problem :) | 13:31 |
| bluelightning | eren: I don't know much about that I'm afraid | 13:31 |
| bluelightning | eren: I know we have some work to do with deployment that relates to this | 13:32 |
| bluelightning | eren: but I do know for sure that live images work, I built and used one just the other day with master | 13:32 |
| eren | ok, it's a common x86 pc, what deployment method would you suggest? | 13:32 |
| eren | I just dd "hddimage" to flash, it boots, init script runs and I get "waiting for removable media" | 13:32 |
| bluelightning | yes, that's what I did here too | 13:33 |
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| eren | I guess I will try ML | 13:36 |
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| rburton | eren: that normally means you've some messed up systemd/udev packages, i.e. udev from udev but libudev from systemd | 14:00 |
| rburton | eren: or the initramfs is missing udev-extraconf (which contains the code that mounts the real rootfs) | 14:01 |
| rburton | eren: not that switching distro features implies you wiping your build directory for reliability | 14:01 |
| rburton | "note", even | 14:01 |
| eren | rburton: oh, I just use dylan release, udev/systemd are default | 14:01 |
| eren | I haven't touched them | 14:01 |
| eren | what I do is to produve live image, and "dd" the hddimage directly onto CF Crad | 14:02 |
| rburton | eren: sure, so that means "sysvinit" images use udev from udev, and systemd images use udev from systemd | 14:02 |
| eren | which then ALIX board use to build | 14:02 |
| rburton | eren: which have different versions, which causes problems if you change distro features but don't wipe the deploy. | 14:02 |
| eren | ah | 14:02 |
| eren | well, yes, I am working on a BSP for alix3d3 | 14:02 |
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| eren | apprently, I haven't changed distro features | 14:03 |
| eren | distro is poky | 14:03 |
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| eren | rburton: so, what should I try? udev-extraconf first? | 14:05 |
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| rburton | eren: yeah, verify that's in the initramfs | 14:07 |
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| eren | rburton: ok, I'm checking initramfs image | 14:09 |
| eren | rburton: oh, I have udev-extraconf in initramfs | 14:11 |
| eren | automount.rules, autonet.rules, etc | 14:11 |
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| Krz | hi guys, I'm using poky dylan-9.0.1 tag. The zlib version 1.2.7 is no longer available on zlib.org. Isn't there any other mirror? | 14:18 |
| Krz | They must have removed 1.2.7 version from the website recently | 14:19 |
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| rburton | its on the yocto mirror, i thought it would look there by default | 14:22 |
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| bluelightning | Krz: what rburton said, if you have kept the default MIRRORS configuration it will be pulled from the yoctoproject.org mirrors | 14:37 |
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| Krz | I didn't change zlib recipe | 14:47 |
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| Krz | and there is only one mirror on the list: zlib.net | 14:48 |
| Krz | or .org ... | 14:48 |
| kergoth | MIRRORS isn't defined int he rcipe. | 14:48 |
| kergoth | it's defined by the poky distro | 14:48 |
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| bluelightning | Krz: right, it's set in meta-yocto/conf/distro/poky.conf | 14:49 |
| bluelightning | Krz: (by default at least) | 14:49 |
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| rburton | bluelightning: so why does mirrors.bbclass have the same lines but https?$://.*/.* as the regex? | 14:50 |
| rburton | that $ looks very suspicious | 14:50 |
| bluelightning | rburton: I'm not too sure | 14:51 |
| kergoth | that $ looks fine. bitbake splits the url before matching the regexes | 14:51 |
| kergoth | that $ ensures that only that scheme will match, not httpsfoobarbaz | 14:51 |
| rburton | kergoth: so why do none of the others do that? | 14:51 |
| kergoth | no idea | 14:51 |
| rburton | in fact the mirrors in poky appears to just replicate lines in mirrors.bbclass, just without the $ | 14:52 |
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| kergoth | http://git.yoctoproject.org/cgit/cgit.cgi/meta-mentor/tree/classes/mirrors.bbclass is what we use at mentor. strips out the useless location-based mirrors, and uses a catchall scheme to avoid having to list them all | 14:52 |
| * kergoth shrugs | 14:52 | |
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| rburton | yeah thats much better than ours ;) | 14:53 |
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| rburton | kergoth: you should totally send that in to oe-core | 14:55 |
| rburton | kergoth: http://git.yoctoproject.org/cgit/cgit.cgi/meta-mentor/tree/recipes/gnome/gconf_3.2.6.bbappend <-- is that mentor value-add? ;) | 14:57 |
| rburton | kergoth: ok, to be fair, you did send that one in ;) | 14:57 |
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| Krz | so when zlib 1.2.7 download fails it should pick one from yoctoproject.org? (because it didn't for me and i use unmodified poky.conf) | 15:00 |
| rburton | Krz: yes | 15:00 |
| rburton | Krz: pastebin the full log of it failing to download? | 15:00 |
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| rburton | maybe its failing the mirror too | 15:00 |
| Krz | i don't have it anymore - just copied zlib127 tarball from other source to downloads/ | 15:00 |
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| exosyst | eren, bluelightning_ so wait - systemd is default in dylan? | 15:01 |
| exosyst | Now i'm confused | 15:01 |
| Krz | I thought someone has seen it | 15:01 |
| rburton | exosyst: no, sysvinit is default | 15:01 |
| exosyst | I am getting some weird warnings about "The recipe systemd is trying to install files into a shared area when those files already exist" and then reams of them | 15:01 |
| rburton | exosyst: did you enable systemd without wiping the sysroot? | 15:02 |
| kergoth | rburton: heh, as always with such things, have to find breathing room to catch up on the submission backlog :) | 15:02 |
| exosyst | rburton, wiping the sysroot? What shenanigans do i invoke to do that? bitbake -c clean? | 15:02 |
| rburton | exosyst: "wipe-sysroot" | 15:02 |
| rburton | exosyst: thats easier than blowing away the entire tmp/ when you change distro features | 15:03 |
| * dvhart learns a new task | 15:03 | |
| dvhart | thanks rburton | 15:03 |
| rburton | dvhart: its a script | 15:03 |
| rburton | dvhart: lots of rm's | 15:03 |
| exosyst | rburton, thanks. That's pretty neat. So I can just bitbake -k core-image-minimal again and it *should* work? | 15:03 |
| dvhart | ah, noted | 15:03 |
| rburton | dvhart: the trick is deleting the right stamps | 15:03 |
| rburton | exosyst: *should* | 15:03 |
| exosyst | rburton, cool beans. Cheers! | 15:04 |
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| eren | ok, I still have "waiting for removable media" error | 15:06 |
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| eren | at least, I know have a decent framebuffer support (1024x768@60) yay! | 15:06 |
| eren | the only thing is to bring the board at bootable stage | 15:06 |
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| rburton | eren: debugging that is a pita. the initramfs is waiting for your rootfs to be automounted. | 15:07 |
| rburton | luckily dvhart just turned up! | 15:07 |
| dvhart | and is double booked on meetings, responses will be delayed .... | 15:07 |
| rburton | dvhart: excuses | 15:08 |
| rburton | dvhart: SEO forum is only half a booking at best ;) | 15:09 |
| * dvhart wonders what an SEO forum is | 15:09 | |
| dvhart | ;-) | 15:09 |
| eren | ok, should I seek some solution in ML or wait here? :) | 15:09 |
| dvhart | waiting on removable media.... | 15:09 |
| eren | dvhart: hahaha | 15:09 |
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| eren | ok, I will wait with "debugshell" option | 15:10 |
| dvhart | that usually means the usb live config options aren't present | 15:10 |
| dvhart | eren, which BSP and image? | 15:10 |
| eren | dvhart: meta-alix3d3, that I am trying to bring up | 15:11 |
| eren | dvhart: it is "live" image | 15:11 |
| dvhart | which one? minimal,live,etc | 15:12 |
| eren | dvhart: ah | 15:12 |
| eren | it's core-image-minimal | 15:12 |
| eren | https://github.com/eren/meta-alix3d3 | 15:13 |
| dvhart | which device ? | 15:13 |
| dvhart | which device is your rootfs on? | 15:13 |
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| eren | dvhart: same device, I dd hddimage into CF Card | 15:13 |
| dvhart | and that is what? /dev/sda? | 15:13 |
| eren | ah, let me check | 15:14 |
| dvhart | the live image looks for a specific set of devices | 15:14 |
| dvhart | check the init script and be sure your device is in there | 15:14 |
| * dvhart has to run.... back later | 15:14 | |
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| eren | oh well, I cannot seem to have kernel boot log | 15:17 |
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| mranostay | ok silly question what is difference in the recipes in recipes-support and recipes-extended? | 16:09 |
| bluelightning | mranostay: see meta/recipes.txt | 16:10 |
| bluelightning | mranostay: the divisions are somewhat arbitrary in some cases | 16:11 |
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| mranostay | bluelightning: so reading that i can see some arbitrary calls being made :) | 16:20 |
| rburton | mranostay: and the end of the day the recipes-* divisions are entirely arbitrary and have no meaning beyond some grouping for humans | 16:21 |
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| eren | well, I guess my kernel lacks CF Card slot (PCCARD) option so udev cannot detect and mount it | 16:42 |
| kergoth | honestly i kind of preferred the flat model. now its often a guessing game figuring out where something is :) | 16:46 |
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| bluelightning | kergoth: kind of implies the categorisation isn't really helpful in some cases | 16:49 |
| bluelightning | kergoth: we could look at reorganising | 16:49 |
| fray | I find the categrorization very useful.. not as much for the name of the category, but because not everythign is all in one big directory.. | 16:49 |
| fray | I can go into recipes-devtools and find mostly development related items.. | 16:49 |
| fray | the graphics for all of the x11 and related.. etc | 16:49 |
| kergoth | IMO taxonomies are only useful if you consider the use cases / how you access the infromation, and 90% of the time i'm looking for something knowing its name, but not necessarily even remembering waht categories exist, much less what one it's in | 16:50 |
| kergoth | maybe i'm not the common case, but i dont go browsing around what recipes exist very often | 16:51 |
| fray | I usually do ls -d recipes-*/<name> | 16:51 |
| kergoth | (and the layer index exists to cover that) | 16:51 |
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| kergoth | so do i, or find, but it's adding overhead to what seems to me to be the most common thing for us to be doing | 16:51 |
| * kergoth shrugs | 16:51 | |
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| rburton | kergoth: i like the fact that sh/emacs does globs when opening files, i.e meta/*/foo/*bb | 16:56 |
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| kergoth | note: useful vim tip, use 'n' instead of 'e' and you can open with globs too | 17:00 |
| kergoth | :n */foo | 17:00 |
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| mr_science | the next time i hear someone rag on git because they used to have perforce, clearcase, or whatever, i'm converting their git repos to cvs... | 17:31 |
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| mr_science | just sayin'... | 17:32 |
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| bluelightning | mr_science: haha | 17:42 |
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| mr_science | it would be even funnier if i actually did it | 18:16 |
| mr_science | rename thier repo something like old_junk and create a new cvs repo... | 18:16 |
| mr_science | damn, i need a bigger font on this display... | 18:20 |
| mr_science | loks great on the second head, but the first head is a 1080p laptop display | 18:21 |
| mr_science | *looks even | 18:21 |
| mr_science | couldn't tell he actually quit without squinting | 18:21 |
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| Garibaldi|work | Hi folks. I've run into a problem with runqemu-extract-sdk. Suppose that I have tmp/deploy/image/core-image-foo.gz. If I do a 'tar -tvf <that_file>', I see for example "drwxr-xr-x 0/0 0 2013-08-07 18:16 ./etc/". After extracting it, I see "drwx------ 27 user group 4.0K Aug 7 14:16 etc". Notice that the permissions on the directory have changed | 19:19 |
| Garibaldi|work | I need to preserve the directory's permissions | 19:20 |
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| mr_science | are you extracting with -p ? | 19:23 |
| Garibaldi|work | I'm running rnuqemu-extract-sdk | 19:23 |
| Garibaldi|work | err, 'runqemu-...' | 19:23 |
| mr_science | can you see what the tar arguments are? | 19:23 |
| Garibaldi|work | xjf | 19:24 |
| Garibaldi|work | no p | 19:24 |
| mr_science | needs p to presrve perms | 19:24 |
| mr_science | i'd call that a bug... | 19:25 |
| Garibaldi|work | jhhum | 19:25 |
| kergoth | indeed | 19:25 |
| Garibaldi|work | so I modified the script to include p, but I see the same behavior | 19:25 |
| mr_science | -p should work no matter what user is running tar... | 19:26 |
| kergoth | well, if he's not root, it wont be able to chown it to root, unless its sudo tar'ing | 19:26 |
| mr_science | true | 19:26 |
| seebs | I have used a machine with very strict restrictions on sudo commands. | 19:27 |
| seebs | One of the commands permitted: tar. | 19:27 |
| mr_science | or fakeroot/pseudo i suppose... | 19:27 |
| Garibaldi|work | yeah, I didn't expect it to be root/root | 19:27 |
| Garibaldi|work | but I did expect the same file permissions | 19:27 |
| * kergoth nods | 19:27 | |
| mr_science | i would this shouldn't need sudo | 19:28 |
| seebs | What's your umask? | 19:28 |
| kergoth | that is odd, unless it's not overwriting the existing files for some reason? | 19:28 |
| * kergoth shrugs | 19:28 | |
| Garibaldi|work | 0022 | 19:28 |
| seebs | I note that tar respects umask. | 19:28 |
| * mr_science is having whole-word dropouts today... | 19:28 | |
| seebs | Made an "x.tar" containing -rwxrwxrwx 1 seebs/seebs x. | 19:29 |
| kergoth | ah, interesting. | 19:29 |
| kergoth | good to know | 19:29 |
| seebs | tar xf => -rwxr-xr-x (umask 022). tar xpf => -rwxrwxrwx | 19:29 |
| seebs | Also, found a bug in tar | 19:29 |
| kergoth | huh | 19:29 |
| seebs | $ tar cf x.tar x | 19:29 |
| seebs | .. oh wait | 19:29 |
| Garibaldi|work | hum... | 19:30 |
| seebs | nevermind. I found a typo, I'd spelled it "tr". Which is why it said "extra operand". | 19:30 |
| Garibaldi|work | I think I might have found the issue | 19:30 |
| seebs | kergoth: I might have a bunch of meta-sourcery patches coming up "soon". | 19:30 |
| seebs | Specifically, enabling cross-canadian package creation, and a couple of related bits. | 19:30 |
| Garibaldi|work | bah, I think I have two different versions of tar with different behaviors | 19:31 |
| seebs | That's the lovely thing about standards. There's so many of them to choose from! | 19:32 |
| Garibaldi|work | hehe | 19:32 |
| Garibaldi|work | what's worse, both claim to be GNU tar 1.26 | 19:33 |
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| mr_science | obviously i'm not the first to ask this one... | 19:38 |
| mr_science | all you need in google is "cron re" and it completes it as "read-only filesystem" in a dozen different variants... | 19:39 |
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| mr_science | so bluelightning, i figured out my issue with start-stop-daemon yesterday... | 20:11 |
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| mr_science | turns out the guy who works on the binary in question had decided to make it background itself, then didn't remove the "&" from the initscript... | 20:18 |
| mr_science | so my new initscript was still using start-stop-daemon --background | 20:19 |
| * mr_science grumbles about communication issues across one stupid cubicle divider... | 20:19 | |
| kergoth | heh | 20:22 |
| mr_science | yeah, it's funny *now* | 20:23 |
| mr_science | not so much yesterday afternoon... | 20:23 |
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| mr_science | there's actually better communication across countries/timezones on IRC... | 20:25 |
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| kergoth | sadly at work i'm pretty much the only one on y team that *lives* on irc | 20:29 |
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| mr_science | me too. other than a couple of contractors who are only here 3 times/week | 20:31 |
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| seebs | We have an internal IRC server, it works really well. | 20:42 |
| kergoth | internal irc is indeed invaluable. virtual watercooler, among other things | 20:43 |
| mr_science | i setup an internal xmpp server when i first got here | 20:43 |
| mr_science | i was the only one using it so now i don't bother... | 20:44 |
| otavio | kergoth: yes; irc indeed helps a lot | 20:45 |
| mr_science | i only did xmpp because nobody else could spell irc... | 20:47 |
| seebs | Asynchronous text medium = happy. | 20:53 |
| seebs | Better, asynchronous-or-synchronous. | 20:54 |
| bluelightning | mr_science: ok, good to hear at least that you figured out the problem | 21:06 |
| mr_science | you mean good that it was my problem and not a bug... | 21:07 |
| mr_science | ;-) | 21:07 |
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| * mr_science always forgets the smilie... | 21:07 | |
| mr_science | and yes, it is/was | 21:07 |
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| mr_science | kergoth: i did see an "easy" way to do those permissions, but it's pretty much a side-effect | 21:21 |
| mr_science | turns out you can abuse the volatiles config to do that for directories | 21:22 |
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| kergoth | mr_science: heh, downside to that is volatiles are handled differently between sysvinit and systemd, and of course that isn't really its purpose, as you say | 21:31 |
| * kergoth ponders | 21:31 | |
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| mr_science | i'm not advocating using a side-effect that doesn't even qualify as an "undocumented feature" | 21:32 |
| kergoth | heh :) | 21:32 |
| mr_science | just pointing it out... | 21:32 |
| * kergoth nods | 21:32 | |
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| bluelightning | mr_science: I don't mind bugs if they can be explained :) | 22:07 |
| mr_science | yeah, i was thinking i like having bugs to fix... just not so keen on the crazy ones... | 22:09 |
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