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| Krz | Hi guys, I find in some poky recipes in 'do_configure' call to 'oe_runconf'. Do you know where is it defined? I would like to play with its flags. | 09:10 |
| Zagor | Krz: meta/classes/autotools.bbclass | 09:11 |
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| bluelightning | morning all | 10:20 |
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| Crofton|work | gm | 11:47 |
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| bluelightning | morning Crofton|work | 12:09 |
| Net147 | morning bluelightning | 12:16 |
| bluelightning | hi Net147 | 12:16 |
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| Net147 | I wonder if implementing OVA image support would be worthwhile for the build appliance image to make it easier to use with VirtualBox (and avoid the 4 CPU + non-commercial limitations with VMware Player) | 12:28 |
| bluelightning | sounds like it would be useful... | 12:29 |
| Net147 | then you would have a single OVA that would work with both VirtualBox and VMware | 12:31 |
| Net147 | and potentionally other software that supports OVA | 12:32 |
| Net147 | perhaps a weekend project =) | 12:33 |
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| Krz | is there any way I can compile some Yocto pkgs manually and let Yocto know they are compiled? I mean libtool-native/m4/automake and few others. | 13:02 |
| Krz | I'm trying to run bitbake under cygwin, that's why standard way doesn't do for me | 13:07 |
| rburton | Krz: you probably want ASSUME_PROVIDED | 13:09 |
| Krz | so on bitbake command line I do: ASSUME_PROVIDED="m4 libtool-native etc" bitbake abc | 13:13 |
| Krz | is that the way of using this variable? | 13:14 |
| rburton | you can use it in local.conf | 13:17 |
| rburton | anything in ASSUME_PROVIDED isn't built, so you can put m4-native | 13:17 |
| rburton | oh, you'll want to += it | 13:18 |
| rburton | as it has a default, see bitbake.conf | 13:18 |
| BCMM | i accidentally started bitbake before i set MACHINE correctly (and built a bit for x86 before ctrl-c'ing). do i need to run some kind of "make clean" style command before building for ARM? | 13:19 |
| rburton | nah | 13:19 |
| Zagor | BCMM: only if you want to reclaim the disk space | 13:19 |
| Krz | rburton: great, cheers, i will play with it | 13:19 |
| rburton | BCMM: the sysroot where the build happens is per-MACHINE anyway | 13:19 |
| Zagor | BCMM: it builds into different dirs per machine | 13:19 |
| BCMM | Zagor: thanks. if i did want to reclaim the space, what do i do? | 13:19 |
| Zagor | I'm not sure what is the correct way to clean just one build. | 13:21 |
| rburton | MACHINE=oldmachine wipe-sysroot | 13:21 |
| BCMM | rburton: thanks! | 13:21 |
| rburton | i wonder if wipe-sysroot is documented | 13:21 |
| BCMM | unconnectedly, approximately what size is a "vanilla" build of poky? i know this will vary substantially by architechture and whatnot, just want a ballpark | 13:22 |
| BCMM | sorry, i mean in terms of finished distro disk requirements | 13:22 |
| rburton | BCMM: the docs say 100G as a guideline for reasonable use | 13:22 |
| BCMM | rburton: uh, that's space for building right? | 13:23 |
| rburton | BCMM: its less to do a single build, but you don't want to be having to clean stuff all the time | 13:23 |
| rburton | BCMM: yeah, total usage | 13:23 |
| rburton | oh you mean final image size? | 13:23 |
| BCMM | yeah, sorry | 13:23 |
| bluelightning | Krz: some things are not suitable to be added to ASSUME_PROVIDED though, e.g. things which we patch to support cross-compilation | 13:23 |
| BCMM | i clarified but probably after you typed your message :) | 13:23 |
| BCMM | also is X11 enabled in the default configuration? sorry for the newbie questions, this is my first build | 13:24 |
| rburton | BCMM: looks like my core-image-sato is probably something like 200M. as a compressed tarball its 61M, and my disk image with 500M free space is 700M | 13:25 |
| rburton | BCMM: yes, it is. | 13:25 |
| Net147 | why does the build appliance manual mention OVF but it isn't used in the build appliance ZIP? https://www.yoctoproject.org/documentation/build-appliance-manual | 13:25 |
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| Krz | bluelightning: even if I patch them on my own? | 13:28 |
| bluelightning | Krz: sure, you can do that... but why would you? | 13:28 |
| Krz | Trying to run Yocto uild under cygwin. Some of base pkgs (m4/libtool-native/etc) fail do not build in Yocto, but I can build them standalone in cygwin. That's the point | 13:32 |
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| Zagor | I recommend using a virtual machine instead of cygwin. it is much faster. | 13:33 |
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| Krz | I believe VM is great choice. But native Windows (so bins + cygwin.dll) is a requirement for the project. I know Yocto does not support cygwin, but at the end of the day I provided all of prerequisites | 13:36 |
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| lpapp | kergoth: did you get any chance to look into the build break for meta sourcery? | 13:47 |
| Krz | I have my pkgs compiled outside Yocto, I have ASSUME_PROVIDED, now how I point Yocto to directory I built my stuff? Is there any Yocto PTH variable? | 13:50 |
| Krz | *Yocto PATH | 13:51 |
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| rburton | Krz: PATH should work | 14:04 |
| eren | any idea on live image deployment? | 14:05 |
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| BCMM | rburton: thanks. what's the simplest way to disable X11? i'm setting up a headless system | 14:30 |
| rburton | BCMM: remove x11 from DISTRO_FEATURES | 14:30 |
| rburton | then you're certain it can't creep in | 14:30 |
| BCMM | rburton: sorry for the noob question, but where is DISTRO_FEATURES? | 14:30 |
| rburton | you can do a build without refering to x and you'll be fine but you might find libx11 sneaks in, via dbus or something | 14:31 |
| rburton | BCMM: you can set it in your local.conf, or make a new distro and set it there | 14:31 |
| BCMM | rburton: "make a new distro" would mean basically a new build directory right? | 14:31 |
| rburton | BCMM: no, a new distro configuration, like poky. | 14:31 |
| BCMM | rburton: what would that entail? | 14:32 |
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| rburton | BCMM: for now its probably easier to just edit the distro features in your local.conf | 14:32 |
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| BCMM | rburton: uh, so i need to set the DISTRO_FEATURES var, but i'm not sure what to | 14:33 |
| rburton | BCMM: if you use use "bitbake -e [image] |grep DISTRO_FEATURES=" then you'll see what the current value is | 14:33 |
| rburton | then you can set it to that, minus x11 | 14:33 |
| BCMM | rburton: thanks! | 14:34 |
| BCMM | is it basically safe to ctrl-c out of bitbake? i guess it will just resume when run again? | 14:34 |
| rburton | BCMM: yes | 14:34 |
| rburton | BCMM: first C-c says "stop when you've finished the current tasks", second is "stop now" | 14:35 |
| BCMM | and is there any way to get some feedback on the status of the current builds? mine has been stuck on do_fetch for two packages for a long time now | 14:35 |
| rburton | BCMM: some packages are pretty big... | 14:36 |
| rburton | but no, there's no fetch progress bar | 14:36 |
| BCMM | anyway, going to restart with a custom DISTRO_FEATURES i think | 14:36 |
| rburton | BCMM: remember to wipe-sysroot if you change DISTRO_FEATURES | 14:36 |
| Krz | I used ASSUME_PROVIDED+="m4-native-1.4.16-r4 m4 m4-native" bitbake abc and it still tries to build m4-native :/ | 14:38 |
| BCMM | rburton: woah, there's quite a few of those. is there a guide somewhere for what the less obvious features actually do? | 14:40 |
| rburton | BCMM: the reference docs mentions a lot of them | 14:41 |
| BCMM | thanks | 14:41 |
| rburton | BCMM: as you see, many are pretty self-explanatory | 14:41 |
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| BCMM | rburton: on the topic of wipe-sysroot, is it correct taht i have a sysroots dir in TMPDIR, not in BUILDIR? | 14:50 |
| BCMM | wiperoot refers to $BUILDDIR/tmp/sysroots/ - is that based on the assumption that my TMPDIR is inside my BUILDIR? | 14:51 |
| rburton | BCMM: good point. | 14:53 |
| BCMM | i do seem to have a $BUILDDIR/tmp/ as well... | 14:53 |
| rburton | BCMM: feel free to fix paths in the script if they're wrong, i should fix the script to ask bitbake where the sysroots are | 14:53 |
| BCMM | which is odd sicne the defaulf config uses that directory for TMPDIR | 14:54 |
| BCMM | rburton: i'm totally new and don't know what's going on... | 14:54 |
| BCMM | but should i perhaps just symlink my tmp directory to where yocto seems to think it should belong and keep the default TMPDIR value? | 14:54 |
| rburton | BCMM: you're right, there is an assumption there | 14:54 |
| BCMM | i haven't the space to build on this disk... | 14:54 |
| rburton | BCMM: personally i have a symlink from build/tmp to the real tmp, so i can save typing | 14:54 |
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| Crofton|work | ERROR: Function failed: process_automatic_dependencies | 15:17 |
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| Song_Liu | https://wiki.yoctoproject.org/wiki/Yocto_Project_v1.5_Status#Milestone_3 | 15:34 |
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| mr_science | moin | 16:30 |
| eren | hey | 16:30 |
| eren | headless bsp for alix3d3 is nearly ready :P | 16:31 |
| eren | at least it has framebuffer, sound, cs5536 companion chip, eth and it boots | 16:32 |
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| mr_science | yay | 16:33 |
| mr_science | what's an alix3d3? | 16:33 |
| eren | mr_science: http://pcengines.ch/alix3d3.htm | 16:33 |
| eren | hehe | 16:34 |
| eren | update kernel config, build core-image-minimal, get the image, dd into CF, boot cycle is long | 16:34 |
| mr_science | ah, an amd geode... | 16:35 |
| eren | yes | 16:35 |
| mr_science | is it similar in other aspects to olpc xo-1 at all? | 16:35 |
| eren | well, similar | 16:36 |
| eren | AMD Geode LX700@0.8 W + 5536 | 16:36 |
| mr_science | haven't played with that for a while... maybe i should try installing a yocyo image on it... | 16:36 |
| eren | mine has LX800 | 16:36 |
| mr_science | *yocto even | 16:36 |
| eren | it seems that xo-1 has the same chip with alix | 16:36 |
| * mr_science rubs his eyes with his elbows | 16:36 | |
| eren | mr_science: well, currently you cannot boot AMD Geode with default yocto | 16:37 |
| eren | some kernel configuration should be enabled, on which I am currently working on | 16:37 |
| mr_science | there's no xo-1 bsp/meta layer? | 16:37 |
| mr_science | i thought i saw one a while back... | 16:37 |
| eren | http://layers.openembedded.org/layerindex/layers/ | 16:38 |
| eren | apprently, no | 16:38 |
| mr_science | apparently i need to steal yours and make one... | 16:38 |
| eren | hehe | 16:38 |
| mr_science | there should still be a lot of xo-1 hardware out there | 16:39 |
| mr_science | one would think... | 16:39 |
| eren | well, I appreciate any patches | 16:39 |
| eren | http://github.com/eren/meta-alix3d3 | 16:39 |
| eren | I'm still working on it | 16:39 |
| mr_science | not sure i would have anything to give without the hardware to test on... | 16:39 |
| eren | sure | 16:40 |
| mr_science | unless it's common across both machines | 16:40 |
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| eren | I'm happy today, at least | 16:40 |
| eren | I managed to boot that thing | 16:40 |
| eren | it still needs a lot of work | 16:41 |
| mr_science | okay, if i watch your repo i might actually notice when things are stable-ish... | 16:41 |
| eren | there's no /dev/ttyS0 | 16:41 |
| eren | I only have 1 VGA console | 16:41 |
| eren | I should be able to switch between virtual ones with CTRL + F{1..9} | 16:41 |
| eren | the latter one is related with getty, I guess | 16:41 |
| mr_science | i need to get a few other thingsout of the way... like installing my oldest kid into his new dorm room week after next... | 16:42 |
| mr_science | check the inittab config | 16:42 |
| mr_science | you should be able to enable more VTs | 16:42 |
| mr_science | after that i should be able to at least make a build that *should* boot off the sdcard | 16:43 |
| mr_science | *xo-1 build | 16:43 |
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| eren | yeah, I guess I need to learn how to configure inittab | 16:45 |
| mr_science | but, time to collect some build data... | 16:46 |
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| mr_science | eren: i assume there's only VT set now? | 16:47 |
| mr_science | *one | 16:47 |
| eren | mr_science: yes | 16:47 |
| mr_science | so make it look something like this: http://paste2.org/vO1WnIat | 16:48 |
| eren | ah, thanks | 16:48 |
| eren | I'm wondering in which layer I should do this? | 16:48 |
| eren | I guess I will put that under my seperate distro config (hambedded) | 16:48 |
| eren | which will be based on poky reference distro, of course | 16:48 |
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| Krz | do you know any pseudo homepage? | 16:49 |
| Krz | pseudo README says not very much, google the same | 16:49 |
| bluelightning_ | Krz: http://www.ibm.com/developerworks/library/os-aapseudo1/ | 16:54 |
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| fray | pseudo 's "home" is git.yoctoproject.org | 16:59 |
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| eren | yay, eth is also working | 17:07 |
| eren | great | 17:07 |
| eren | the only thing that bothers me is configuration flags. I had "illegal instruction" problems before in some audio codec | 17:08 |
| eren | it turned out that LX800 miss an instruction that regular x86 has, but GCC think that it's in LX800 | 17:08 |
| eren | I hope I won't dig into gcc flags again :( | 17:08 |
| rburton | eren: oh that sounds like "fun" | 17:10 |
| mr_science | i usually bug one of the gentoo toolchain devs... | 17:12 |
| mr_science | sometimes i think they know more about gcc than upstream does... | 17:14 |
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| BCMM | my build is stuck on 2 very long do_fetch stages again. they're the raspberry pi kernel and firmware from a 3rd-party layer, and i think they're being fetched over git | 17:16 |
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| rburton | BCMM: kernels are big, firmwares are big. | 17:16 |
| BCMM | is there a log file i can tail or something to see the progress of that? | 17:16 |
| BCMM | rburton: | 17:17 |
| BCMM | sorry, keyboard-mashed | 17:17 |
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| rburton | try tmp/work/machine/recipe/version/temp/log.do-fetch | 17:17 |
| rburton | might have something useful, but i suspect it will just say that its started a git fetch | 17:17 |
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| BCMM | rburton: yeah, exactly that | 17:18 |
| BCMM | it ends in DEBUG: Running export [snipped loads of environment] ; git clone --bare --mirror git://github.com/raspberrypi/firmware.git [snipped loads of path] | 17:18 |
| rburton | you could use netstat or strace to verify that they are still downloading stuff i guess | 17:19 |
| rburton | but kernels are giant and some firmware repos are huuuuge | 17:19 |
| BCMM | it really doesn't log git's output anywhere then? | 17:19 |
| mr_science | BCMM: check the network interface for traffic | 17:19 |
| rburton | BCMM: it won't log the progress information from git, mainly as git doesn't produce it unless its on a terminal | 17:19 |
| mr_science | gkrellmd is handy for that... | 17:19 |
| BCMM | 2 connections to github in netstat... i guess i'll just stop being impatient | 17:20 |
| mr_science | have a tasty beverage and go outside... | 17:20 |
| BCMM | so far that's the only thing i prefer about gentoo's emerge... it has a fetch log you can tail | 17:20 |
| rburton | BCMM: fwiw, that firmware repo is insanely huge | 17:20 |
| rburton | still waiting for git to even start | 17:21 |
| rburton | what the hell did they put in there :/ | 17:21 |
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| rburton | still waiting! | 17:21 |
| BCMM | it seems to have a precompiled linux kernel and modules in it as well as firmware | 17:22 |
| rburton | sigh | 17:22 |
| rburton | still waiting for the server to send the data! | 17:22 |
| eren | rburton: yeah, it sounds like "fun" :) | 17:22 |
| BCMM | does github have a way to display the total size of a repo? | 17:23 |
| rburton | BCMM: just been looking, its not obvious if there is | 17:23 |
| rburton | BCMM: i recommend a coffee :) | 17:23 |
| rburton | ah, 1% downloaded at 22MB | 17:24 |
| mr_science | git ls-remote does not appear to give size... | 17:24 |
| rburton | so ~2G | 17:24 |
| BCMM | rburton: that's weird | 17:24 |
| rburton | oh its 1% of objects, not 1% of size | 17:24 |
| BCMM | you can fit use a 2GB SD card for a whole raspi system including debian | 17:24 |
| rburton | BCMM: its got history, so if they put 100 kernels in it, you're downloading 100 kernels | 17:25 |
| rburton | without any diffs | 17:25 |
| BCMM | i guess git doesn't have a way to just get the latest if you're not planning on committing changes? | 17:25 |
| simar_ | BCMM: du -sh .git/ | 17:26 |
| simar_ | rough estimate, but still a good approximation. | 17:26 |
| BCMM | simar_: i'd need to know the final size, but yeah... | 17:26 |
| rburton | BCMM: it does, actually | 17:26 |
| rburton | BCMM: but its a bit complicated to use for our use-case | 17:27 |
| rburton | (shallow clones, is the term you're looking for) | 17:27 |
| bluelightning_ | meta-raspberrypi just needs to switch to something else for the firmware fetch | 17:30 |
| bluelightning_ | I think Andrei knows that, he just hasn't had time to address it yet | 17:31 |
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| mr_science | bluelightning_: like a versioned tarball maybe? | 17:39 |
| BCMM | well, thanks for all the advice. i'll be patient | 17:39 |
| bluelightning_ | mr_science: right | 17:40 |
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| mr_science | yeah, the convenience of git starts to break down when the repo gets huge... | 17:40 |
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| * mr_science does the formal release/deploy dance | 18:19 | |
| mr_science | damn, i left my black tie at home... | 18:19 |
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| mr_science | drippy taco day is another that doesn't go well with keyboards and such... | 20:00 |
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| abelloni | I want | 21:14 |
| abelloni | oops | 21:15 |
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| abelloni | I want to specify that the kernel has to be installed on the rootfs | 21:15 |
| abelloni | can I do that from my conf/machine.conf ? | 21:15 |
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| JaMa | someone seeing this with latest oe-core? | 21:38 |
| JaMa | | DEBUG: Python function sysroot_cleansstate finished | 21:38 |
| JaMa | | DEBUG: Executing shell function do_configure | 21:38 |
| JaMa | | NOTE: make oldconfig | 21:38 |
| JaMa | | make: *** No rule to make target `oldconfig'. Stop. | 21:38 |
| JaMa | | ERROR: oe_runmake failed | 21:38 |
| JaMa | | ERROR: Function failed: do_configure (log file is located at /OE/oe-core/tmp-eglibc/work/qemux86_64-oe-linux/linux-yocto/3.8.13+gitAUTOINC+375cb6ebfd_f20047520a-r4.2/temp/log.do_configure.13055) | 21:38 |
| mr_science | no rule to make target `oldconfig' in the kernel source? | 21:46 |
| mr_science | something is very wrong somewhere... | 21:46 |
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| JaMa | mulhern: yes and the directory looks like kernel source, so it should work.. | 21:56 |
| mulhern | JaMa: I think that was somebody else's question. | 21:57 |
| JaMa | mulhern: sorry it was for mr_science | 21:58 |
| JaMa | hmm it's running in wrong directory... | 21:58 |
| JaMa | OE qemux86-64@ ~/oe-core/tmp-eglibc/work/qemux86_64-oe-linux/linux-yocto/3.8.13+gitAUTOINC+375cb6ebfd_f20047520a-r4.2 $ find linux-qemux86-64-standard-build/ | 22:00 |
| JaMa | linux-qemux86-64-standard-build/ | 22:00 |
| JaMa | linux-qemux86-64-standard-build/.scmversion | 22:00 |
| JaMa | linux-qemux86-64-standard-build/.config | 22:00 |
| JaMa | linux-qemux86-64-standard-build/scripts | 22:00 |
| JaMa | linux-qemux86-64-standard-build/scripts/basic | 22:00 |
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| BCMM | where should i expect to find completed images at the end of a build? are the images in tmp/deploy/images/ finished? why are they in /tmp? | 22:04 |
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| BCMM | (i mean tmp/) | 22:07 |
| JaMa | BCMM: tmp as "build artifacts" | 22:07 |
| BCMM | do you mean "is"? | 22:07 |
| JaMa | if you remove tmp you can rebuild everything again from metadata -> that's why it's "tmp" | 22:08 |
| BCMM | JaMa: ah, tmp contains everything that was produced by the build, as opposed to configured by the human? | 22:08 |
| JaMa | BCMM: yes | 22:08 |
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| BCMM | thanks. i guess tmp/deploy/images is the finished product then? | 22:09 |
| JaMa | yes | 22:09 |
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| mr_science | it's another one of those "everything new is a top priority" days... | 22:21 |
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