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| bluelightning | morning all | 08:00 |
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| mshakeel | Hi all, I am working to achieve that no artifacts of UNIX System V init should be present on target i.e /etc/init.d and /etc/rc[0-6|S].d | 10:19 |
| mshakeel | I seem to handle other things but it is opkg postinstaller script which is of some concern | 10:20 |
| mshakeel | opkg is using /etc/rcS,d dir to place its postinstaller script | 10:20 |
| mshakeel | which is removed on first boot | 10:20 |
| mshakeel | Is it a good idea to replace it with a systemd service file? | 10:21 |
| bluelightning | mshakeel: if it works the same way, I don't see why not... | 10:21 |
| mshakeel | I mean if sysvinit is in distro features than keep things as it is otherwise use service file instead of script | 10:22 |
| mshakeel | there is one more problem that there is 'systemd-compat-units.bb' which uses this script | 10:22 |
| mshakeel | bluelightning: we need to modify that as well, is it acceptable? | 10:23 |
| mshakeel | systemd-compat-units.bb is there to run sysvinit scripts in systemd env | 10:23 |
| bluelightning | what are you changing there? | 10:23 |
| mshakeel | just not to call that script if it is only systemd env | 10:24 |
| mshakeel | although it is already first checking for this script existence. | 10:25 |
| mshakeel | but functionality wise there shouldn't be any problem because what this script is doing (configuring pkgs) will be done through service file | 10:25 |
| mshakeel | /etc/rcS.d/S98run-postinsts is opkg post-install script | 10:27 |
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| Stygia | bluelightning, Hey. | 10:54 |
| Stygia | bluelightning, I pulled oe-core and tried to find meta-perl, but it's not there anywhere. Is it still in your staging/test area? | 10:54 |
| bluelightning | Stygia: it's in the meta-openembedded repository | 10:56 |
| Stygia | Stygia, Alright, I'll go look for it. | 10:57 |
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| Stygia | bluelightning, Is it on github too? | 10:59 |
| Stygia | bluelightning, Alright, got it. | 10:59 |
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| Stygia | I'll be adding recipes gradually as I adjust their naming to your convention and add proper dependencies, etc. | 11:00 |
| bluelightning | Stygia: ok, np | 11:00 |
| Stygia | bluelightning, Does a 'team member' need to sign off all my pushes? Do I need to write to the mailing list and describe what I've done? I mean I know I'm supposed to be subscribed and I am. | 11:01 |
| bluelightning | Stygia: you'll need to send the new recipes as patches to the openembedded-devel mailing list | 11:02 |
| bluelightning | Stygia: if you're sending a few you can use the pull request scripts, that makes things a bit easier | 11:02 |
| Stygia | bluelightning, Alright I'll just use the procedure on the wiki. | 11:02 |
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| Stygia | bluelightning, Well... okay, I think that was it. I committed two recipes. | 11:11 |
| Stygia | bluelightning, So if this works/gets accepted I'll be pushing about... 30 I'd say this week. | 11:12 |
| Stygia | bluelightning, Hah... more like 104. :P | 11:13 |
| bluelightning | Stygia: so you've committed them but not sent the patches yet, is that right? | 11:14 |
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| Stygia | bluelightning, I think I send them? I used the git send-email command from the wiki. | 11:14 |
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| Stygia | bluelightning, git send-email --to=openembedded-core@lists.openembedded.org --confirm=always -M -1 | 11:15 |
| bluelightning | Stygia: ah, it should have been sent to openembedded-devel@ | 11:15 |
| Stygia | Aah right, pardon. I'll try again. I hope openembedde-core@ doesn't hate me now. | 11:16 |
| bluelightning | doesn't seem to have shown up there yet, FWIW | 11:17 |
| Stygia | bluelightning, Hmm no... I may not have a proper sendmail binary, git didn't notify me about that, though. I'll keep trying. | 11:18 |
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| Stygia | bluelightning, ... seems like the debian installer for sendmail is broken. I'll do it later, then. | 11:22 |
| zibri | stygia: postfix may be simpler to set up from my experience, and also provides a sendmail binary | 11:25 |
| Stygia | zibri, Hmm alright, I could try that, thanks. :) | 11:27 |
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| Stygia | Alright, so. Seems like postfix works just fine, and I tried to send an email. But I got a mail back from the openembedded-devel@ list saying I'm not allowed to email it? | 11:50 |
| Stygia | 'You are not allowed to post to this mailing list' | 11:50 |
| bluelightning | Stygia: are you subscribed? valid From: set? | 11:53 |
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| Stygia | I did just subscribe, I think, and my From: erp@movis.dk | 11:54 |
| Stygia | Waait... maybe I subscribed to the openembedded-core one... let me check. | 11:54 |
| Stygia | Ah, yes. Sorry, I subbed to the wrong one. | 11:55 |
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| Stygia | Hmm, alright. Now it should be posted, I think. | 11:58 |
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| bluelightning | Stygia: ok, I see it now | 12:02 |
| bluelightning | Stygia: you've put signed-off-by in the subject line | 12:03 |
| bluelightning | Stygia: also the shortlog should be "recipename: add" or similar | 12:03 |
| Stygia | Hmm? I guess? I more or less copy pasted the lines from the wiki. | 12:03 |
| Stygia | shortlog? | 12:03 |
| bluelightning | Stygia: shortlog = first line of the commit message | 12:04 |
| Stygia | I did git commit -s then wrote a commit message, then just used the git send-email | 12:04 |
| Stygia | Ah, okay, so the first line should be short. How did I put the signed-off-by in there? I didn't do that manually, I just used git commit -s like suggested by the wiki | 12:04 |
| Stygia | I'm not exactly super familiar with git... | 12:05 |
| bluelightning | I'm not sure how that all ended up on one line to be honest | 12:05 |
| Stygia | Hmm alright, well. Pardon either way. | 12:05 |
| bluelightning | also, when sending to the openembedded-devel list you need to include a prefix that specifies which layer the patch is for, i.e. --subject-prefix="meta-perl][PATCH" | 12:06 |
| bluelightning | (since the openembedded-devel list is used for many different layers) | 12:06 |
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| bluelightning | btw, if you also use --confirm=always on the git send-email command line you get a preview of the headers before sending | 12:08 |
| Stygia | Hmm alright. I will try again for another package, see if I can get it right. | 12:08 |
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| Stygia | Okay, I hope this did it. | 12:12 |
| Stygia | I did git commit -s, added a line to briefly describe it, another line with a more full description, then pushed. But it seems like the whole description goes in the subject.. | 12:12 |
| Stygia | Ah, I got an email telling me I need a blank line before it. Right. | 12:13 |
| Stygia | Sorry to spam your mailing list. I still haven't contributed anything to an OS project before. Heh, hopefully the number of recipes I'm about to push will make up for it. | 12:13 |
| bluelightning | no worries, we all went through this at some point :) | 12:17 |
| Stygia | Okay... okay, now I think it's right. :) Third commit, and this time the subject and everything looks correct. | 12:17 |
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| Stygia | This last one I send looks right, yea? | 12:21 |
| bluelightning | pretty much, although typically when adding recipes I usually do one commit per recipe (not sure if that's a rule or not though) | 12:21 |
| Stygia | Ah, hmm. | 12:22 |
| Stygia | Well I've done one recipe + its dependencies. | 12:22 |
| Stygia | It wouldn't build it work just with the one recipe. | 12:22 |
| bluelightning | indeed, if you did want to do one per recipe it would be in order such that the dependencies were added first | 12:23 |
| bluelightning | this is somewhat of a triviality though | 12:23 |
| Stygia | Hmm. Yea, alright, fair enough. I'll try to keep that in mind. | 12:23 |
| bluelightning | the recipes themselves are very clean, well done :) | 12:24 |
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| bluelightning | Stygia: a couple of other things though | 12:25 |
| bluelightning | perl-module-* may not fit our typical naming scheme (at least as far as I've seen) | 12:26 |
| bluelightning | usually it's lib*-perl | 12:26 |
| bluelightning | also, we usually characterise the perl license as "Artistic-1.0 | GPL-1.0+" | 12:27 |
| bluelightning | (assuming those recipes were meant to be licensed a la perl itself) | 12:27 |
| Stygia | Oh? Didn't you tell me to change from cpan-X to perl-module-X? | 12:27 |
| Stygia | Also, they were. | 12:27 |
| bluelightning | did I? hmm... | 12:27 |
| Stygia | I distinctly remember someone saying it. Immediately I'd say you. | 12:28 |
| Stygia | Fuck me if I know, though. | 12:28 |
| bluelightning | this is a lot of pedantry to put up with, I know... sorry about that | 12:28 |
| Stygia | Hmm, well, no worries. | 12:29 |
| Stygia | I just sort of need a way to know for sure. Is it perl-module-X or libX-perl? | 12:30 |
| Stygia | Because I've been spending some time renaming my cpan-X things to perl-module-X already... | 12:30 |
| bluelightning | looking over all of our recipes and the older ones in OE-Classic, it's libX-perl | 12:30 |
| bluelightning | I wonder if there's an easy way to rename them quickly rather than you having to go through and do it by hand | 12:31 |
| Stygia | I think I have a mass renamer somewhere here... | 12:31 |
| bluelightning | I guess if you haven't committed them yet it'll already be easier | 12:32 |
| Stygia | bluelightning, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PxANht7yBV4 | 12:32 |
| Stygia | bluelightning, Sorry about the quality. Just thought the joke fit. | 12:32 |
| bluelightning | heh | 12:32 |
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| Stygia | bluelightning, Are you sure about the libX-perl convention, though? | 12:36 |
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| bluelightning | Stygia: looking at this, fairly sure yes: http://layers.openembedded.org/layerindex/recipes/?q=perl | 12:37 |
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| Stygia | bluelightning, Alright, well. Okay then. | 12:43 |
| Stygia | bluelightning, Just FYI this is the last time I'm renaming anything. ;) So now you're stuck with that convention. | 12:43 |
| bluelightning | ok :) | 12:43 |
| Stygia | bluelightning, No worries though, my mass renamer can do regular expressions. | 12:44 |
| Stygia | So it's a pretty simple matter of s/perl-module-(.*)/lib\1-perl/gi | 12:44 |
| Stygia | I can do that. :P | 12:44 |
| Stygia | I'll fix that expression if it's borken somewhere, don't worry. :) | 12:46 |
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| LetoThe2nd | howdy! jsut a short one: whats the best practise when working with multiple projects, which could have architecture or bits n pices in common? using a vendor layer for the software is obvious, but what about the directory structure, and what gets built when/where? | 12:51 |
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| bluelightning | LetoThe2nd: keep separate build directories; you may also wish to use separate branches in your "vendor" layer so that changes don't necessarily have to apply to both | 12:56 |
| LetoThe2nd | bluelightning: so basically start from poky base for each project? | 12:57 |
| bluelightning | LetoThe2nd: yes | 12:58 |
| LetoThe2nd | bluelightning: so sharing the toolchain or such is not recommended? e.g. when ever i start or take over some project, the first build is used to get everything setup up, right? | 12:59 |
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| LetoThe2nd | sharing the downloads is possible, already found that | 12:59 |
| bluelightning | LetoThe2nd: you can share the sstate directories between the two to save build time | 13:00 |
| Crofton|work | otavio, http://cgit.openembedded.org/openembedded-core/commit/?id=72980d5bb465f0640ed451d1ebb9c5d2a210ad0c | 13:01 |
| bluelightning | Stygia: er, so your patch is on top of the other patch you sent, it should be against master | 13:01 |
| Crofton|work | broke meta-xilinx | 13:01 |
| bluelightning | Stygia: you can squash it into the previous patch by using "git rebase -i master" | 13:01 |
| otavio | Crofton|work: ?!? | 13:01 |
| LetoThe2nd | bluelightning: is that ok also for example if one is x86 and the other is arm? or just not worth the effort because only the initial build is affected? | 13:01 |
| bluelightning | LetoThe2nd: well, it'll still be able to save time on the native part | 13:02 |
| ndec | LetoThe2nd: as a general rule, i am using 1 download and 1 sstate-cache, which are symlink'd in all my build folders. | 13:02 |
| Crofton|work | http://pastebin.com/F6U7Ckw8 | 13:02 |
| LetoThe2nd | ndec: ok, something like /opt/pokystuff/{downloads,sstate} manually lilnked into every project? | 13:02 |
| ndec | yep. | 13:03 |
| LetoThe2nd | ndec: ok, i think i get it. | 13:03 |
| ndec | sstate make 'build folder' cheap ;-) | 13:03 |
| ndec | there are tools/scripts to cleanup sstate when it starts getting too big. | 13:04 |
| Crofton|work | otavio, zedd_ http://pastebin.com/F6U7Ckw8 | 13:04 |
| LetoThe2nd | ndec: well that thing getting big is not an issue to my, just thinking of how things are actually used in everyday work (as opposite to "first steps") | 13:05 |
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| otavio | Crofton|work: yes; I sent a fix for this to the ml | 13:05 |
| Crofton|work | ah cool | 13:05 |
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| Crofton|work | thanks | 13:05 |
| ndec | LetoThe2nd: everyday work, as you are 'alone', or with a team? | 13:05 |
| otavio | sgw_: Did you see the patch for linux-dtb? It is critical ^ | 13:05 |
| otavio | sgw_: it fixes a regression | 13:05 |
| LetoThe2nd | ndec: both cases exist | 13:06 |
| Stygia | bluelightning, Alright? I'm not exactly sure what you mean by that and why I would do that. | 13:06 |
| ndec | i haven't implemented the 'team' use case yet... but i suspect sharing the 'team build server' sstate over the network should be what to do. | 13:06 |
| Stygia | I actually don't understand what you mean by a patch being on top of the other patch? | 13:06 |
| Crofton|work | otavio, thanks, always good to find Monday's problem is already queued for a fix | 13:07 |
| bluelightning | Stygia: the test-more patch you have sent isn't a change on top of master, it's a change on top of one of the other patches you sent | 13:07 |
| LetoThe2nd | ndec: ok | 13:07 |
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| bluelightning | Stygia: test-simple I mean | 13:07 |
| Stygia | Ah hmm alright. So if I run the rebase command, what then, I can change my previous commit? | 13:07 |
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| bluelightning | Stygia: yes | 13:08 |
| Stygia | test-simple RPROVIDES test-more so not completely off. :P | 13:08 |
| Stygia | So if I rebase it... do I have to mail it again, or just push, or what? | 13:08 |
| bluelightning | Stygia: it'll have to be re-sent yes | 13:10 |
| LetoThe2nd | ndec: when after some bitbking i changed my pwd into another project and source th oe init nothing clashes, right? | 13:10 |
| Stygia | bluelightning, Alright. I'll rename one at a time, then do one commit per rename, then, once I"ve done all that, send the email? | 13:11 |
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| ndec | LetoThe2nd: not sure i see what you mean. | 13:11 |
| otavio | Crofton|work: eheh; sorry by not catch this error before :( | 13:11 |
| bluelightning | Stygia: it's not one commit per rename it's one commit to add the recipe on top of what's in the meta-openembedded repository | 13:11 |
| Stygia | Hmm alright. | 13:11 |
| LetoThe2nd | ndec: well sourcing oe-init-env-script or howsitcalled prepares my shells environment when i'm inside a specific project | 13:12 |
| LetoThe2nd | ndec: so after being done with things there, if i use the *same* shell to continue working maybe in another project, will leftovers in the env clash? | 13:13 |
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| LetoThe2nd | \o/ vacatioooooon! :) | 13:15 |
| Stygia | bluelightning, Okay... I've no idea if that was right, but anyhow, there it goes. | 13:16 |
| Stygia | bluelightning, At least now I can add new recipes without doing it wrong. ^_^ | 13:16 |
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| ndec|vacations | LetoThe2nd: hmm... that's weird.. | 13:18 |
| ndec|vacations | my nick has changed, and I can't change it back... i am definitely not in vacations... | 13:18 |
| bluelightning | Stygia: I'm afraid this is the same thing | 13:19 |
| Stygia | bluelightning, Oh, well uh. Hmm. | 13:20 |
| Stygia | bluelightning, I'm not quite sure what to do. I did the restage thing, and it opened a file that said 'noop', so... I saved that and mailed it in. | 13:20 |
| bluelightning | Stygia: ah of course.. sorry... try git rebase -i origin/master | 13:20 |
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| Stygia | After commiting, yea? I did already commit these chagnes | 13:21 |
| Stygia | changes | 13:21 |
| bluelightning | yes | 13:21 |
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| Stygia | bluelightning, Isn't it too late now though? | 13:21 |
| bluelightning | Stygia: not really, none of these patches can be applied | 13:22 |
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| bluelightning | Stygia: if you like you can send the next one to me first if that helps | 13:22 |
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| Stygia | The file? Or the commit? | 13:24 |
| Stygia | Okay, I"m trying to restage the commit... If I'm reading this right, then what I'm doing here makes sense: | 13:24 |
| Stygia | s 51bdf53 Added recipes for Test::More and its dependency Test::Harness Signed-off-by: Emil Petersen <erp@movis.dk> | 13:24 |
| Stygia | s 9288d2e perl-module-test-more: deleted, perl-module-test-simple: add Test::Simple contains Test::More and a number of other packages.$ | 13:24 |
| Stygia | s f52c98d perl-module-common-sense: added, perl-module-json-xs: added | 13:24 |
| Stygia | s a99702c perl-module-scalar-list-utils: added | 13:24 |
| Stygia | s 4455d1f perl-module-test-simple: renamed | 13:24 |
| Stygia | s a80ca11 perl-module-json-xs: renamed | 13:24 |
| Stygia | s 5bf8d69 perl-module-common-sense: renamed | 13:24 |
| Stygia | p 1cf1455 libjson-xs-perl,libscalar-list-utils-perl,libtest-harness-perl,libtest-simple-perl, perl-module-test-harness: rename | 13:24 |
| Stygia | Picking the last commit and squashing the others? | 13:24 |
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| bluelightning | Stygia: no, you need to move things around such that you can squash the renames into the adds | 13:25 |
| Stygia | bluelightning, That make sense? | 13:25 |
| bluelightning | Stygia: you can cut and paste lines to reorder the commits | 13:25 |
| Stygia | bluelightning, I'm sorry, but I don't know what you mean by that or how to begin to accomplish it. | 13:26 |
| Stygia | bluelightning, Ah, so.... the adds need to be the last ones? | 13:26 |
| bluelightning | Stygia: well not really, they need to be interleaved since the squash just squashes it into the commit above | 13:26 |
| Stygia | bluelightning, ... I'm sorry but you've completely lost me. | 13:27 |
| Stygia | bluelightning, Can I somehow delete all my commits so far and just do a "normal" commit with the right name to start with? | 13:27 |
| bluelightning | Stygia: sure... you can soft reset back to master | 13:28 |
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| bluelightning | i.e.: git reset origin/master | 13:29 |
| Stygia | bluelightning, Alright... I'm just gonna kill this repo and clone it again... then go read the git documentation before I bring irrevokable shame to my family name. | 13:30 |
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| bluelightning | Stygia: no need to clone again, if you reset to origin/master you're back where you started with your changes uncommitted on top | 13:44 |
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| BCMM | i think i accidentally terminated a bitbake run badly. now i'm getting "An uncaught exception occured in runqueue" followed by a traceback and "OSError: [Errno 2] No such file or directory" | 13:57 |
| BCMM | how should i go about finding out what's causing this and fixing it? | 13:58 |
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| Stygia | BCMM, I've no idea, but have you tried -c cleanall'ing the recipe you terminated? | 14:00 |
| BCMM | now you mention it, probably not all of them | 14:01 |
| BCMM | i'll try that | 14:01 |
| BCMM | Stygia: nope, same again | 14:02 |
| BCMM | thanks though | 14:02 |
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| BCMM | "NOTE: Executing RunQueue Tasks" is the last line before it falls over | 14:02 |
| BCMM | if i "git pull" the latest versions of everything, what do i need to do to ensure stuff gets rebuilt | 14:03 |
| BCMM | / | 14:03 |
| BCMM | (i was trying to type a question mark...) | 14:03 |
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| BCMM | it looks like it's breaking because tmp/sysroots/x86_64-linux/usr/bin/pseudo doesn't exist | 14:08 |
| BCMM | which is presumably because i just ran wipe-sysroot... | 14:08 |
| BCMM | i guess there are some other commands i need to run when i do wipe-sysroot? | 14:08 |
| daBONDi_work | Hi iam new here maybe someone can help me, i Build with hob an Image "atom" + "Core Image Minimal initramfs" and boot it over pxe with pxelinux and it holds on "Waiting for removable media ..." does this mean that rootfs cannot be found ? | 14:10 |
| daBONDi_work | Only can find something about a boot bug with udev but this should be fixed in dylan | 14:11 |
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| RP | BCMM: You could try bitbake -c pseudo-native | 14:20 |
| RP | BCMM: -c clean pseudo-native | 14:21 |
| BCMM | RP: thanks, that's fixed. new error now: "rpmbuild: command not found" | 14:22 |
| BCMM | RP: it seems like wipe-sysroot destroyed a bunch of native utilities without prompting anything to rebuild them? | 14:22 |
| BCMM | have i misunderstood the circumstances under which it is ok to wipe-sysroot? | 14:23 |
| RP | BCMM: I'm not familiar with it :/ | 14:23 |
| RP | BCMM: that error means rpm-native is missing and needs cleaning | 14:24 |
| BCMM | yeah, doing that now, but i imagine it's going to do that for every native package | 14:24 |
| RP | BCMM: for some reason its not wiped out the native do_populate_sysroot stamps in tmp/stamps | 14:25 |
| BCMM | RP: what exactly are stamps? they indicate that something has already been installed and doesn't need building just cause something depends on it? | 14:25 |
| RP | BCMM: they tell bitbake is something has been built or not | 14:26 |
| RP | s/is/if/ | 14:26 |
| BCMM | for the actual ARM packages i've built, there are already work dirs with completed builds right? so it should basically "make install" or equivalents without having to rebuild those? | 14:27 |
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| BCMM | RP: looking at the source, it wipes out do_populate_sysroot stamps only | 14:31 |
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| RP | BCMM: but it should do that in the native directory as well as the target ones | 14:33 |
| BCMM | RP: yeah, they seem to be gone. that doesn't seem to have persuaded bitbake to reinstall them | 14:33 |
| RP | BCMM: Something odd is going on :/ | 14:34 |
| RP | BCMM: hard to tell from afar though :( | 14:34 |
| BCMM | RP: shall i just do bitbake -c clean $(bitbake -s | grep native | awk ' { printf $1 " " } ') | 14:35 |
| BCMM | is that likely to cause further breakage, beyond having to rebuild the native packages? | 14:35 |
| RP | BCMM: At this point I'd probably start with a clean tmp | 14:35 |
| BCMM | that means rebuilding all the target packages... | 14:36 |
| RP | BCMM: presumably you have sstate still? | 14:36 |
| BCMM | RP: what's sstate? (i'm pretty much a yocto newbie) | 14:36 |
| RP | BCMM: the sstate-cache directory - it will use objects from there *if* they match your current configuration | 14:37 |
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| BCMM | RP: yeah, i have that - what is it though? | 14:37 |
| RP | BCMM: saved output from the build to reuse in other builds if the configuration matches. | 14:38 |
| BCMM | ah, basically tarballs of finished "packages"? | 14:38 |
| RP | BCMM: tarballs of the output of specific tasks | 14:38 |
| RP | so yes, ish | 14:39 |
| BCMM | so if i just wipe out tmp/ and re-run my recipes, i won't be doing everything from scratch? sounds like the way to go, thanks | 14:39 |
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| RP | BCMM: correct, assuming the configuration still matches | 14:42 |
| BCMM | RP: meaning relevant configuration, or any modification of local.conf? | 14:43 |
| RP | BCMM: relevant configuration | 14:43 |
| BCMM | thanks, i'll do that | 14:43 |
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| kergoth | RP: have you seen ^C problems early on in bitbake's startup? it seems worse than it was before bitbake learned to restart itself. e.g. an interrupt and clean shutdown of the pseudo-native build and it continues merrily along to the real build | 14:46 |
| kergoth | RP: i'm quite often having to ^Z and pkill -f bitbake | 14:46 |
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| kergoth | another behavior is just a hang if you interrupt prior to the initial build | 14:47 |
| daBONDi_work | Hi iam new here maybe someone can help me, i Build with hob an Image "atom" + "Core Image Minimal initramfs" and boot it over pxe with pxelinux and it holds on "Waiting for removable media ..." does this mean that rootfs cannot be found ? Sry for remsg :-) | 14:50 |
| Crofton|work | RP, those are the most ridiculous off road tires I ahve ever seen | 14:52 |
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| bluelightning | daBONDi_work: ensure you have not removed support for the device upon which you are booting from in your kernel config | 14:55 |
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| RP | kergoth: I've seen the same thing :( | 14:55 |
| RP | kergoth: I think the process changes have made an existing problem much worse and more visible :( | 14:55 |
| RP | Crofton|work: They're all terrain, I don't do much proper offroad | 14:56 |
| * kergoth nods | 14:57 | |
| RP | Crofton|work: http://www.rpsys.net/wp/rp/disco2.jpg shows it can happily go interesting places on those tyres ;-) | 14:57 |
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| bluelightning | daBONDi_work: I suspect it does mean the rootfs can't be found, have a look at meta/recipes-core/initrdscripts/files/init-live.sh where that message is shown | 15:37 |
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| daBONDi_work | yeah bluelightning i found that already in source still no clue to fix it, but iam trying :-) | 15:45 |
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| daBONDi_work | Someone Now if i need the modules.xxx.tgz file to boot with syslinux ? | 16:06 |
| daBONDi_work | Someone know if i need the modules.xxx.tgz file to boot with syslinux ? :-) | 16:06 |
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| Krz | Hi guys, I have a uclibc based rootfs, lzma compressed takes ~2.2MB. Now if I just change libc to eglibc it becomes ~3.4. Is there any way I can trim down standard eglibc to achieve something similar to uclibc? | 16:54 |
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| bluelightning | Krz: you can play around with the eglibc configuration options (see Darren's work on poky-tiny), but to be honest I thought you had already done that | 16:55 |
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| Krz | bluelightning: looking at poky-tiny config (which I'm using) there is nothing else to strip :/ | 16:58 |
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| bluelightning | Krz: right, in that case unless you want to cut out some really fundamental stuff that is probably the lower limit of size for eglibc | 16:59 |
| nerdboy | i guess if i really wanted openembedded on my new phone i'd a freerunner... | 17:04 |
| nerdboy | *need | 17:04 |
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| nerdboy | unless there are any other machine targets for openmoko? | 17:05 |
| bluelightning | the meta-smartphone repository has a bunch of phone hw targets IIRC | 17:08 |
| Krz | bluelightning: thx; ~3.4MB is pretty low anyway | 17:09 |
| Krz | bluelightning: we just have so low size restrictions | 17:09 |
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| daBONDi_work | Hi iam again << Yocto N00b :-) i Installed the Yocto Plugins in my Eclipse Juno SR2 and Create a Bitbakecommander Project and under the Project Properties > Builders i got an error, "Missing Builder (org.yocto.bc.ui.builder.BitbakeBuilder", i install it with Help > Install Software > Pass URL from 1.4.1 Version | 17:47 |
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| brm | hi guys, anyone know how to use bitbake commander in eclipse | 18:45 |
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| brm | i am using eclipse kepler and the plugin | 18:50 |
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| brm | any eclipse bitbake commander experts out there? | 19:07 |
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| kergoth | any thoughts on https://gist.github.com/kergoth/6274970 ? the lack of consistency amongst non-linux-yocto kernels wrt .config bugs me | 22:36 |
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| seebs | kergoth: That seems like a good idea to me, intuitively. Consistency is nice. | 23:11 |
| seebs | Unrelated, but since I happened to be here looking for you: Any thoughts on how well meta-sourcery works with multilib builds, normally? | 23:11 |
| seebs | I ask because my fork is sorta badly broken for a BSP that enables multilibs, with the root problem being that ${TARGET_PREFIX} is the same for both multilibs, I think. It didn't affect my previous implementation because that one always set up wrappers, thus, had different TARGET_PREFIX for each multilib. | 23:12 |
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| kergoth | seebs: heh, I doubt anyone has ever tested it with them. I'm guessing some missing ${MLPREFIX}s | 23:19 |
| seebs | I'm not sure. The distinction seems to be that with our wrappers, we were setting values with names like PREFERRED_PROVIDER_virtual/tuning1-wrapper-linux-gnu-gcc-initial | 23:20 |
| seebs | But without the wrappers, it's just the generic and identical-between-multilibs "mips-sourcery-linux-gnu-gcc-initial" or whatever. | 23:20 |
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| seebs | So, what's biting us is, there is a hidden assumption in the way the virtual/PREFIX-gcc-initial stuff is set up, which is that TARGET_PREFIX varies. | 23:21 |
| kergoth | yeah, i expect the quickest solution would be to add mlprefix to the non-PN-based-package-names and to the provides. longer term would be nice to only provide a given multilib if we really provide that multilib | 23:21 |
| seebs | I think it's not the package names biting us, but the predefined (external to this layer) virtual/* names. | 23:22 |
| seebs | Something somewhere is assuming that gcc-initial can have a different PREFERRED_PROVIDER for each multilib, which it sort of has to. | 23:22 |
| kergoth | i know, i just mentioned it as it'd bite us later :) | 23:22 |
| seebs | Ahh, that too. | 23:22 |
| seebs | And I *think* I have the mlprefixes in most of the places I need them, maybe. | 23:23 |
| seebs | In my fork, there's suitable magic such that you really can build the external-sourcery-toolchain-cross for two multilibs, in principle. | 23:23 |
| seebs | I am sort of leaning towards some kind of fancy thing wherein we have base symlinks using the CSL_TARGET_SYS names, and then tuning-specific links to them which use something else, and make TARGET_PREFIX be that something else. | 23:23 |
| seebs | Even if the tuning-specific links don't *actually* do anything different. | 23:24 |
| kergoth | doesn't sound unreasonable to me | 23:25 |
| seebs | I am gonna stop talking now. I was feeling mostly okay, then I thought "huh, my throat feels dry and itchy", and suddenly I feel awful. | 23:26 |
| seebs | And I learned, quite a while back, that I get *really stupid* when I am even a little sick sometimes. | 23:26 |
| seebs | I try very, very, hard not to write code when I have mild sniffles. Unless it is for future entertainment value during code reviews. | 23:27 |
| kergoth | heh, definitely a good policy, I have that one also. particularly for fevers, almost never thinking straight with those | 23:27 |
| seebs | I sort of default to a fever whenever anything happens to my immune system. | 23:28 |
| seebs | Although this did lead to one of the most fascinating experiences I ever had. | 23:28 |
| seebs | I had a fever, and I grabbed a book. It turned out to be _Foucault's Pendulum_. | 23:29 |
| seebs | So basically, there's what the calendar tells me is about a 3-day period during which I frankly have no idea which things I dreamed and which I read. | 23:29 |
| seebs | And I am sort of afraid to ever go read the book again now, for fear it won't be as awesome as it seemed then. | 23:29 |
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| levi | Foucalt's Pendulum is pretty awesome. So is Name of the Rose. | 23:35 |
| seebs | I did eventually confirm that I did not invent "mechanical avunculogratulation", although I may well have spelled it wrong. | 23:36 |
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| kergoth | seebs: we need to get your enhanced set -e error output bits merged into bitbake | 23:53 |
| seebs | We do. But I am not sure what would be the next step, since I don't think there were any problems reported with the ones I submitted last time. :) | 23:53 |
| kergoth | could be it just got missed, or fell o the floor with richard on vacation, who knows. maybe a re-submit would be sufficient | 23:55 |
| * kergoth shrugs | 23:55 | |
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