| peterwhitfield | thanks :-) | 00:00 |
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| codehog | i should be leaving shortly for an hour drive, so i should be back (as nerdboy) by 1830 PDT give or take | 00:00 |
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| peterwhitfield | @nerdboy - let me know when you have time to chat :-) | 01:59 |
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| nerdboy | soon as my wife is tired of talking... | 02:04 |
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| nerdboy | so what are you trying to do? use an older/external toolchain? | 02:05 |
| peterwhitfield | ha! | 02:15 |
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| peterwhitfield | so my goal is to get erlang running on a gumstix board | 02:16 |
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| peterwhitfield | but I've run into problems compiling erlang using bitbake | 02:16 |
| msm | peterwhitfield: what's the problem? | 02:16 |
| peterwhitfield | actually, the problem is running configure - there's one point where test in configure shows an incompatibility with fross-compiling | 02:18 |
| * nerdboy couldn't remember who asked which question... | 02:18 | |
| peterwhitfield | but, if I cross-compile erlang outside of bit bake it all works fine | 02:18 |
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| nerdboy | can you paste your recipe somewhee? | 02:18 |
| peterwhitfield | the main difference I can see is that cross-compiling outside bit bake uses a slightly older version of gcc that the toolchain within yocto | 02:19 |
| peterwhitfield | hold on | 02:19 |
| peterwhitfield | will find github link | 02:19 |
| nerdboy | that could possibly be the issue | 02:19 |
| nerdboy | what specific versions of gcc? | 02:20 |
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| peterwhitfield | configure:21140: arm-poky-linux-gnueabi-gcc -march=armv7-a -mthumb-interwork -mfloat-abi=softfp -mfpu=neon -mtune=cortex-a8 --sysroot=/home/peter/yocto/build/tmp/sysroots/overo -o conftest -O2 -pipe -g -feliminate-unused-debug-types -I/home/peter/yocto/build/tmp/work/armv7a-vfp-neon-poky-linux-gnueabi/erlang-R16B02-r0/otp_src_R16B02/erts/arm-poky-linux-gnueabi -D_GNU_SOURCE -DUSE_THREADS -D_THREAD_SAFE -D_REENTRANT | 02:22 |
| peterwhitfield | -DPOSIX_THREADS -D_POSIX_THREAD_SAFE_FUNCTIONS -L/lib -R/lib -Wl,-O1 -Wl,--hash-style=gnu -Wl,--as-needed conftest.c -ldlpi -lutil -ldl -lm >&5 | 02:22 |
| peterwhitfield | that's the error I get | 02:22 |
| peterwhitfield | toolchain version of gcc is 4.7.2 I think | 02:22 |
| peterwhitfield | and the host version (using ubuntu 12.04) is 4.6.3 | 02:22 |
| nerdboy | okay, i'm on master which is gcc 4.8.1 | 02:23 |
| peterwhitfield | ah, ignore that error - seems I pasted the wrong thing | 02:23 |
| peterwhitfield | ok | 02:23 |
| peterwhitfield | I'm using gumstix repo setup | 02:23 |
| peterwhitfield | which gives 4.7.2 | 02:23 |
| nerdboy | 4.7 should be at least a tad bit more forgiving on a given piece of source | 02:24 |
| nerdboy | *than 4.8.1 anyway | 02:24 |
| peterwhitfield | trying to paste the error | 02:24 |
| peterwhitfield | .../ld: warning: library search path "/lib" is unsafe for cross-compilation | 02:25 |
| nerdboy | if you can paste the recipe i can try to build it | 02:25 |
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| nerdboy | you have a bad lib path | 02:25 |
| peterwhitfield | https://github.com/joaohf/meta-erlang | 02:25 |
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| peterwhitfield | if I use the same commands from the recipe, but directly in the erlang directory, it uses the local gcc and works fine | 02:26 |
| peterwhitfield | the equivalent flag when it works is '-L/lib64' iirc | 02:26 |
| nerdboy | well, the cross linker will always fail if it finds the native libs | 02:27 |
| peterwhitfield | https://github.com/joaohf/meta-erlang/blob/master/recipes-devtools/erlang/erlang_R16B02.bb | 02:27 |
| peterwhitfield | well, it doesn't throw the same warning when I build locally...? | 02:27 |
| peterwhitfield | or more accurately, when I run configure locally | 02:28 |
| nerdboy | configure typically doesn't know squat about cross anything | 02:29 |
| peterwhitfield | just running the same command locally to generate the successful result | 02:29 |
| peterwhitfield | ok, so with erlang I'm not running configure directlyt | 02:29 |
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| peterwhitfield | running ./otp_build configure --xcomp-conf='./xcomp/erl-xcomp-oe.conf' | 02:30 |
| peterwhitfield | where the conf file specifies the host and target architectures | 02:30 |
| peterwhitfield | so erlang provides direct support for cross compiling | 02:30 |
| nerdboy | okay... | 02:31 |
| peterwhitfield | when I run that command in the erlang root directory as downloaded by bit bake, it works fine | 02:31 |
| peterwhitfield | but when bit bake runs the same command, it throws that warning | 02:31 |
| peterwhitfield | the only difference I can see is the toolchain | 02:32 |
| peterwhitfield | so my thought was to try forcing bit bake to use the same toolchain that works locally | 02:32 |
| nerdboy | which, if it works, it should not find any native libs... | 02:32 |
| nerdboy | gimme a minute to clone that stuff | 02:33 |
| peterwhitfield | thanks! | 02:33 |
| peterwhitfield | when I run locally (as in otp_build directly) the log file gives this for the equivalent line: | 02:34 |
| peterwhitfield | configure:21140: gcc -o conftest -g -O2 -I/home/peter/yocto/build/tmp/work/armv7a-vfp-neon-poky-linux-gnueabi/erlang-R16B02-r0/otp_src_R16B02/erts/arm-poky-linux-gnueabi -D_GNU_SOURCE -DUSE_THREADS -D_THREAD_SAFE -D_REENTRANT -DPOSIX_THREADS -D_POSIX_THREAD_SAFE_FUNCTIONS -L/lib64 -R/lib64 conftest.c -ldlpi -lutil -ldl -lm >&5 | 02:34 |
| peterwhitfield | gcc: error: unrecognized option '-R' | 02:34 |
| peterwhitfield | so you can see it gives -L/lib64 in place of -L/lib | 02:34 |
| peterwhitfield | btw, the log file I'm looking at is ERLROOT/otp_src_R16B02-r0/erts/config.log | 02:37 |
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| nerdboy | it doesn't fail because it's broken | 02:37 |
| peterwhitfield | ? | 02:37 |
| nerdboy | -I/path/to/arm-blah and -L/lib | 02:38 |
| nerdboy | fail | 02:38 |
| peterwhitfield | so any though as to why it works standalone but gives that result when run from the recipe? | 02:39 |
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| nerdboy | "stand-alone" needs to be one-and-only-one of a) full native or b) a cross-build against an sdk, etc | 02:40 |
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| nerdboy | trying bitbake erlang-native | 02:42 |
| peterwhitfield | hmmm, ok, so I'll research the erlang 'stand-alone' process a bit more | 02:42 |
| nerdboy | doing a manual cross-compile of a package using autotools/configure is a bit tricky | 02:43 |
| peterwhitfield | ok, so when I look at the configure/build steps in erlang_R16B02.bb, they are in line with erlang's how to cross-compiling | 02:43 |
| nerdboy | still fetching a butt-load of source code... | 02:44 |
| peterwhitfield | is that my problem? I'm looking at the wrong file? | 02:44 |
| peterwhitfield | hey, thanks for taking the time :-) | 02:44 |
| peterwhitfield | so if I'm understanding correctly, the erlang-native recipe is using a standard configure/make approach | 02:46 |
| peterwhitfield | whereas the one I've been looking at is using the erlang opt_build script | 02:46 |
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| peterwhitfield | which works for me outside of bitbake | 02:47 |
| peterwhitfield | how can I tell which recipe is being used when I run bit bake? | 02:47 |
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| peterwhitfield | ok, so the log file says the task it is running when it fails is do_configure on erlang_R16B02.bb | 02:50 |
| peterwhitfield | so seems to be doing what I thought it was doing | 02:50 |
| peterwhitfield | do configure in that recipe is running ./otp_build with the same conf file I'm passing to it when I run it directly... | 02:51 |
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| nerdboy | you can "bitbake -b /path/to/recipe.bb -c build" to build a specific recipe/version | 02:52 |
| nerdboy | also -c configure or -c compile etc | 02:52 |
| nerdboy | okay, erlang-native is almost finished... | 02:54 |
| peterwhitfield | basic question - how does bit bake choose between the two recipes? | 02:56 |
| nerdboy | the two versions? | 02:56 |
| peterwhitfield | maybe I'm not understanding the process properly... | 02:57 |
| nerdboy | or native vs cross? | 02:57 |
| peterwhitfield | there's the native bb file and the erlang_R16B02.bb file in the recipe directory | 02:57 |
| nerdboy | yup | 02:57 |
| nerdboy | okay, configure fail | 02:58 |
| peterwhitfield | the non-native one clearly does a cross-compile | 02:58 |
| peterwhitfield | what is the purpose of the native recipe? | 02:58 |
| nerdboy | for native sysroot | 02:59 |
| peterwhitfield | same failure? | 02:59 |
| nerdboy | some packages require a native version to run during the build | 02:59 |
| peterwhitfield | ah, so it builds a native (as in x86) version as well as a cross-compiled version | 03:00 |
| nerdboy | ERROR: This autoconf log indicates errors, it looked at host include and/or library paths while determining system capabilities. | 03:00 |
| nerdboy | Rerun configure task after fixing this. The path was '/home/sarnold/poky/build-rpihf/tmp/work/arm1176jzfshf-vfp-poky-linux-gnueabi/erlang/R16B02-r0/otp_src_R16B02/erts' | 03:00 |
| peterwhitfield | I haven't tried running a native build outside bitbake | 03:00 |
| peterwhitfield | yep, same error it gave me | 03:01 |
| peterwhitfield | when I drilled down on this, it's the qa_configure greping the eras config.log file looking for problems like 'unsuitable for cross-compile' | 03:02 |
| peterwhitfield | eras=erts | 03:02 |
| nerdboy | that recipe is wrong... | 03:06 |
| peterwhitfield | doh | 03:07 |
| peterwhitfield | the native one? | 03:07 |
| nerdboy | no, native builds fine | 03:07 |
| peterwhitfield | so there's a problem with erlang_R16B02.bb | 03:09 |
| nerdboy | looks that way to me | 03:09 |
| peterwhitfield | is there a way to get bit bake to output exactly what it | 03:09 |
| peterwhitfield | it's running | 03:09 |
| peterwhitfield | when I look at the recipe it looks like it's just creating the comp conf file | 03:10 |
| nerdboy | yes, but it needs to it right | 03:12 |
| nerdboy | plus the "SKIP" thing doesn't work either | 03:13 |
| peterwhitfield | so I do know that wx (haven't bothered to try and work out what that is) *doesn't* cross compile | 03:17 |
| peterwhitfield | so perhaps if the skip thing doesn't work, that's causing the problem?? | 03:17 |
| nerdboy | it looked like configure was okay with some of the missing deps | 03:21 |
| nerdboy | best to disable them if the intent is a minimal erlamg install | 03:22 |
| nerdboy | s/erlamg/erlamg/ | 03:22 |
| peterwhitfield | I'm just a bit confused that when I run ./otp_build directly with the same conf file it all works fine | 03:22 |
| peterwhitfield | when you say missing reps - do you mean the dlpi library? | 03:23 |
| nerdboy | the headers are probably mostly the same , and configure finds the native lib path so it's happy | 03:23 |
| peterwhitfield | hmm | 03:23 |
| peterwhitfield | ok, thanks for your help | 03:27 |
| peterwhitfield | will try to sort it out from here :-) | 03:27 |
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| nerdboy | still hacking the recipe | 03:34 |
| nerdboy | configure stubbornly thinks it's not cross-compiling | 03:35 |
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| * nerdboy wonders if this recipe ever worked | 03:49 | |
| peterwhitfield | ah, one thing to be aware of - that otp_build configure step configures for *both* a native bootstrap version of erlang which is then used to build the cross-compiled version | 03:50 |
| nerdboy | yup | 03:50 |
| peterwhitfield | so configure is probably doing both native and cross-compiled | 03:50 |
| nerdboy | i think that's why oe kills the configure | 03:50 |
| nerdboy | which begs the question, why have a bootstrap build in the recipe when native is already built by the native recipe? | 03:51 |
| peterwhitfield | yeah, although the warning about being unsuitable for cross compiling doesn't appear in the log when you run otp_build locally outside of oe | 03:51 |
| peterwhitfield | or, why have native when the scripted build takes care of creating the bootstrap | 03:52 |
| peterwhitfield | ? | 03:52 |
| peterwhitfield | I remember reading somewhere that you need a native version to build the docs... | 03:52 |
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| nerdboy | this one is just weird... the whole bootstrap build thing needs an override or something... | 04:27 |
| peterwhitfield | makes me feel better that I haven't worked it out | 04:30 |
| nerdboy | well, mostly i have to work with oe-classic, which is why i made my own rpi layer | 04:32 |
| nerdboy | so we pretty much need to disable the QA check that fails the bootstrap configure, or coerce erlang to build without building bootstrap first | 04:33 |
| nerdboy | ie, make it think the native build *is* bootstrap | 04:34 |
| peterwhitfield | yep, well I think that you can do that by just using configure directly as per the INSTALL-CROSS.md in the howto | 04:47 |
| peterwhitfield | have tried that without success, but will try again later | 04:48 |
| peterwhitfield | thanks for your help! | 04:48 |
| peterwhitfield | have to go watch the kids play footy! | 04:48 |
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| nerdboy | i'm going back to the old recipe and update from there | 06:36 |
| nerdboy | those new ones have only built in qemux86 | 06:36 |
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| mensfort | After bitbake there is no UImage file and also no tar.gz, but there was only one warning... why? | 07:12 |
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| Stygia | Hey, I don't know how many people are online already, but I'm having a troublesome issue with my Perl @INC (include, library loading) paths. | 09:40 |
| Stygia | I have a recipe using the CPAN bbclass, and it lists it's @INC in such a way that it can't find Carp.pm | 09:41 |
| Stygia | It finds CGI/Carp.pm, but that's a different thing. | 09:41 |
| Stygia | Carp.pm, BTW, is a core module as per `corelist Carp` | 09:41 |
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| Stygia | I am not exporting Perl, and I am using perl-module-carp in both DEPENDS and RDEPENDS | 09:41 |
| Stygia | bluelightning, Morning. | 09:42 |
| Stygia | Anyone know what could cause this? | 09:42 |
| bluelightning | morning Stygia | 09:42 |
| bluelightning | morning all | 09:42 |
| Stygia | bluelightning, You _just_ missed it, but I mentioned that I can't find Carp.pm (not CGI/Carp.pm) in the standard @INC (library include path) for my module, which is using cpan.bbclass and not exporting Perl | 09:42 |
| zibri | stygia: where is Carp.pm installed, and what does @INC contain? | 09:42 |
| Stygia | zibri, http://pastebin.com/vHwjQv2T | 09:43 |
| Stygia | And, I find Carp.pm (Not CGI/Carp.pm) in /usr/lib/vendor_perl/5.14.3/ in the first dir of @INC | 09:43 |
| zibri | try perl-module-carp-native? it's a bit ugly imho to explicitly depend on core modules though.. | 09:44 |
| Stygia | The module I'm creating a recipe for, BTW, is SQL::Abstract, i.e. libsql-abstract-perl | 09:44 |
| zibri | ah | 09:44 |
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| Stygia | zibri, Hmm? But AFAIK they aren't necessarily included unless you depend on them. | 09:45 |
| zibri | i assume this is something that has to run on host? | 09:45 |
| Stygia | zibri, Yes this is compilation. | 09:45 |
| zibri | stygia: yeah, but there's a perl-modules package iirc | 09:45 |
| Stygia | zibri, do_compile as generated by cpan.bbclass | 09:45 |
| Stygia | Sorry if that was unclear. | 09:45 |
| Stygia | zibri, Hmm, still. I'm not sure if I prefer being explicit to that. | 09:45 |
| Stygia | I could change my mind if I was given a good argument, but I'd lean towards slimness. | 09:45 |
| zibri | sure, for embedded applications that may make sense. it's a balanace, but most upstreams will gladly add core modules without documenting the dependency | 09:46 |
| Stygia | zibri, Hmm, right. | 09:47 |
| Stygia | zibri, Well, thanks, I'll definitively consider that if I get trouble. | 09:47 |
| Stygia | zibri, Do you know how I could get Carp.pm in my .../usr/lib/perl/5.14.3/ though? | 09:47 |
| Stygia | And not native-perl. | 09:47 |
| zibri | stygia: the issue you have is on host, not on target, right? | 09:49 |
| Stygia | zibri, Yes. | 09:50 |
| Stygia | Hmm it's actually failing on do_configure right now, it was do_compile, with the same error, at some point though. | 09:50 |
| zibri | and Carp.pm only exists in /mnt/dev/fsl-community-bsp/build/tmp/sysroots/imx6qsabresd/usr/lib/perl/5.14.3/Carp.pm? | 09:50 |
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| Stygia | No, only in tmp/sysroots/imx6qsabresd/usr/lib/perl/vendor_perl/5.14.3/Carp.pm, or of course subdirs to perl and company-image | 09:51 |
| Stygia | It _should_ be in .../usr/lib/perl/5.14.3/ | 09:51 |
| zibri | ah... | 09:51 |
| Stygia | Seems to only be in vendor_perl | 09:51 |
| Stygia | I can, of course, sed on the script that gets called, FindBin.pm | 09:52 |
| Stygia | But that's hardly a solution | 09:52 |
| zibri | How are other core modules installed? also in vendor_perl? | 09:53 |
| Stygia | Seems like strict.pm, for example, is in perl and native-perl. | 09:54 |
| Stygia | Not in vendor_perl... | 09:54 |
| Stygia | Hmm. | 09:54 |
| Stygia | Wait. How do I run things on native-perl, 'bitbake perl-vendor'? | 09:55 |
| Stygia | vendor-perl, sorry. | 09:55 |
| zibri | what's vendor-perl? :) | 09:56 |
| zibri | VENDORPREFIX in perl module toolchains is a place for a vendor (e.g. the distribution) to install perl modules. | 09:57 |
| zibri | as opposed to perl itself (core modules, PERLPREFIX) or the system administrator (SITEPRFIX) | 09:58 |
| Stygia | Hmm, right. | 09:59 |
| Stygia | Then never mind, but I had a 'tainted' perl recipe for a while (long story, I conflicted with core modules), but it's cleaned up now. | 10:00 |
| Stygia | Interestingly the Carp.pm in the vendor_perl subdir remains after I cleanall perl and perl-native. | 10:01 |
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| Stygia | Oh... | 10:13 |
| Stygia | I cleanall'd perl and native perl (again), recompiled, and not it exists. | 10:14 |
| Stygia | *now | 10:14 |
| Stygia | Weird. | 10:14 |
| zaif | Hi all, How do I add a driver module to kernel in yocto? in debconfig? | 10:15 |
| Stygia | zaif, IIRC you can make a bbappend to the kernel config that adds a configuration file, like defconfig, where you can say MODULE=y | 10:15 |
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| ant_work | zibri: hi, still awake? | 10:17 |
| zibri | ant_work: sup? | 10:17 |
| ant_work | I'd have a naive kernel-question wrt sa1100 | 10:18 |
| zibri | huh, are you thinking of somebody else? :) | 10:18 |
| ant_work | hm..donj' tell me !=ojn | 10:18 |
| zibri | heh, not the same guy :) | 10:19 |
| ant_work | p) | 10:19 |
| Stygia | ant_work, What's the quesiton? Is it general to kernel stuff, or specific to yocto's build process? | 10:25 |
| ant_work | oh, someting very specific about ioremap and relocation | 10:25 |
| ant_work | sorry for the noise ;) | 10:25 |
| Stygia | ant_work, No worries, I'd help out if I could, but that does sound sorta beyond me, heh. | 10:34 |
| ant_work | yep, is for the other Olof ;) | 10:37 |
| Stygia | Multiple Olof's? Jævlå Svænskå. | 10:38 |
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| zaif | Stygia: Can I change CONFIG_VIDEO_VIVI=m in /yocto/poky/meta-gumstix/recipes-kernel/linux/linux-gumstix-3.5/overo/defconfig? | 11:00 |
| zaif | for including vivi driver in my image? | 11:00 |
| Stygia | zaif, You can. | 11:01 |
| zaif | Stygia: Done. Thanks. | 11:01 |
| Stygia | It's better if you make a BBAPPENd and have your own file, instead of messing with the recipes for the kernel itself. | 11:01 |
| Stygia | zaif, Wait. :P | 11:01 |
| Stygia | zaif, don't do that, you'll regret it. | 11:02 |
| Stygia | zaif, Make it easy on yourself, and mainable, by not tampering with the original recipe. | 11:02 |
| Stygia | zaif, Use a bbappend, and modify the recipe with your own recipe. | 11:02 |
| Stygia | zaif, Hang on, I can find you an example. | 11:03 |
| Stygia | zaif, This example is for buysbox. | 11:03 |
| Stygia | zaif, But it works the same way. | 11:03 |
| zaif | Stygia: Where do I keep this bbappend file? in meta-gumstix/recipes-kernel/linux/linux-gumstix-3.5/overo? | 11:03 |
| Stygia | zaif, http://pastebin.com/ivvHx8R2 | 11:04 |
| Stygia | zaif, In your own directory. | 11:04 |
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| Stygia | zaif, We have sources/meta-company/recipes-company/ | 11:04 |
| Stygia | zaif, To mimic the normal structure. | 11:04 |
| Stygia | zaif, I'd be happy to explain what the bbappend code itself does, it's fairly simple. | 11:04 |
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| Stygia | zaif, I then keep the recipes I myself have made in the subdir recipes-company | 11:06 |
| zaif | Stygia: I have a dir /poky/meta-bebot/conf & /recipes-bebot. So, this bbappend file goes in conf dir? is that right? | 11:07 |
| Stygia | zaif, So the busybox one has recipes-company/busybox/buysbox_1.20.2.bbappend and recipes-company/busybox/busybox/modules.cfg | 11:07 |
| Stygia | zaif, No. | 11:07 |
| Stygia | zaif, create a dircetory structure. | 11:07 |
| Stygia | Like you have sources/poky/meta/ | 11:07 |
| Stygia | Create sources/meta-company/recipes-company/ | 11:08 |
| Stygia | and/or things like sources/meta-company/recipes-kernel/ | 11:08 |
| Stygia | So you can easily organise your own recipes. | 11:08 |
| Stygia | zaif, I started up doing this a few months ago, trust me it's easier to just organise things well up front. :) | 11:08 |
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| zaif | meta-bebot is my own dir that I have created for my recipes. I kept my bebot recipes in recipes-bebot dir. So, it would be better to create a dir recipes-kernel in my dir and add the modules.cfg in that? | 11:11 |
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| zaif | Stygia: Understood the dir structure. | 11:14 |
| zaif | Stygia: Now, my question is how do I add vivi kernel driver module for my image. by default it is set to #CONFIG_VIDEO_VIVI=is not set | 11:16 |
| zaif | in defconfig | 11:17 |
| Stygia | zaif, Then, in the file you'd end up naming defconfig, you set CONFIG_VIDEO_VIVI=y | 11:21 |
| Stygia | zaif, For example, we have sources/meta-company/recipes-kernel/ | 11:22 |
| Stygia | Then we have linux-imx_3.0.35.bbappend | 11:22 |
| Stygia | zaif, That recipe looks like this: http://pastebin.com/Thvkw8m1 | 11:23 |
| Stygia | zaif, Then we have a subdir to that directory, i.e the dir 'linux' in recipes-kernel, files/ | 11:23 |
| Stygia | That has a file, defconfig. | 11:23 |
| Stygia | zaif, Which contains all the config options we want to set. | 11:24 |
| Stygia | zaif, I believe that would be .config after you run menuconfig, but I'm not 100% | 11:24 |
| Stygia | zaif, You would do that, and inthat config file, one of the options would be CONFIG_VIDEO_VIVI=y | 11:24 |
| Stygia | zaif, For example I have 'CONFIG_BLK_DEV_INITRD=y' in mine. | 11:24 |
| Stygia | zaif, Make sense? :) | 11:25 |
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| zaif | Stygia: Understood but a bit confused :) Will try that and get back. | 11:34 |
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| Stygia | zaif, What're you confused about? Or, just overwhelmed? I'll be glad to explain something. | 11:37 |
| JaMa | I know it's sort of banned or unwelcome topic, but did TSC change opinion about whitespace in shell tasks? (would it make sense to send patches to use unified whitespace?) | 11:38 |
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| bluelightning | JaMa: surely the problem of backporting patches over such whitespace changes is still present? | 11:43 |
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| zaif | Stygia: sorry, I did not look at irc messages. I am a bit overwhelmed. I am making a reading and will get back to you for doubts. | 12:02 |
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| JaMa | bluelightning: PR = "r0" drop also touched a lot of recipes | 12:02 |
| JaMa | bluelightning: I haven't seen single issue with meta-oe patches after changing it just before dylan release | 12:03 |
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| JaMa | bluelightning: best time for it was before branching dora, but if needed we can backport such patch (so that only problem would be cherry-picking commit from master directly to dylan) | 12:03 |
| ant_work | hm, abou PR, is there any plan to remove the various *PR >0 ? | 12:08 |
| bluelightning | JaMa: the PR = "r0" drop was a total of 137 lines removed; a rough count of tabs gives me about 9000 lines (in 550 bb/inc/bbclass files) that would be changed | 12:09 |
| JaMa | ant_work: you cannot drop them without version going backwards | 12:09 |
| JaMa | ant_work: and bumping PE is even worse than having few PRs around | 12:10 |
| bluelightning | indeed | 12:10 |
| bluelightning | they can just die a slow death as upgrades occur | 12:10 |
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| JaMa | bluelightning: I'm not saying it's the same as PR drop, but I still don't see big problem with backports | 12:10 |
| JaMa | bluelightning: we're not going to mass-cherry-picking hundrets of commits do dylan, are we? | 12:11 |
| JaMa | bluelightning: and for few patches which are really needed in older then current dora release it's not hard to resolve conflict | 12:12 |
| JaMa | bluelightning: a lot easier than properly test each cherry-pick in runtime and world build :) | 12:12 |
| bluelightning | not to dylan, but current count in dylan branch is 231 changes since dylan-9.0.0 | 12:12 |
| JaMa | bluelightning: and if someone accidentaly cherry picks few spaces instead of tabs to dylan, then nothing will break | 12:12 |
| JaMa | bluelightning: yes, that's why I said that dora should be changed too (because I expect many changes to dora, but not to dylan) | 12:13 |
| JaMa | in meta-oe I did it just before branching dylan | 12:13 |
| ant_work | JaMa: not long ago I've read that basically nobody cares about on-machine upgrade (maybe Angstrom they said)... | 12:13 |
| JaMa | so people were no longer cherry-picking to danny and people cherry-picking from master to dylan were OK | 12:14 |
| bluelightning | ant_work: we have a bug open to add QA testing for that I think | 12:14 |
| JaMa | ant_work: I still care and I still report bugs (or reply to commits) when people break it | 12:14 |
| ant_work | JaMa: and afaik there is any recent public 'feed' | 12:14 |
| JaMa | ant_work: but it covers only my images | 12:14 |
| JaMa | ant_work: shr and webos still have reliable binary feeds | 12:14 |
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| ant_work | great | 12:15 |
| bluelightning | JaMa: I don't think we would make such a cleanup in dora, if it were to happen it would be before the next release | 12:15 |
| JaMa | well reliable but not very usable since PR server :) | 12:15 |
| bluelightning | JaMa: but really RP is the one you have to convince, since he's the one who would have to deal with any fallout... | 12:15 |
| JaMa | bluelightning: OK, I'll ask about it before 1.6 | 12:15 |
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| ant_work | JaMa: I was thinking about spaces/tabs while mangling machine.conf's | 12:16 |
| ant_work | ;) | 12:16 |
| JaMa | ant_work: since PR server most upgrades try to download almost all .ipk, so even with binary feed reliable you usually run out of space on smaller devices before opkg upgrade is finished | 12:16 |
| bluelightning | ant_work: https://bugzilla.yoctoproject.org/show_bug.cgi?id=4304 | 12:16 |
| yocti | Bug 4304: normal, Medium, 1.6, ionutx.chisanovici, NEW , Do automated upgrade path testing | 12:16 |
| JaMa | ant_work: so binary feed works fine when you're just changing small things without invalidating lot of signatures (like last "small" dora update) | 12:17 |
| RP | JaMa: I've made it clear I am not entertaining this tab/space change | 12:17 |
| JaMa | ant_work: or when you know how to "partition" the upgrade to smaller chunks which don't fill rootfs completely | 12:18 |
| JaMa | RP: I know, sorry about bringing it up again, but is the reasoning about doing it just before release really so bad? | 12:19 |
| RP | JaMa: last time I touched this, I had many people screaming at me about this. Unfortunately they did this privately, despite my suggestion they should do so in public. I am not going there again. | 12:20 |
| RP | There are plenty of more interesting changes I'd rather concentrate on | 12:20 |
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| JaMa | right, but that wasn't done just before release and it was causing parse failures not estetic issues | 12:21 |
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| JaMa | or couldn't be done just before release, because it needed a lot more testing and updates in other layers | 12:21 |
| JaMa | so this is completely different case in my eyes | 12:22 |
| RP | JaMa: For the python problem there was a real technical issue we were solving and I got shouted at badly over it. Doing it over something cosmetic, whether its just before release or not is not something I can justify | 12:22 |
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| ant_work | RP: I feel uneasy too because typically a new recipe is done by copying an older one (and editing it) so things will only be worse with so many sparse examples | 12:27 |
| ant_work | obviously we can only hope the external layers will do cleanings as well but this is more a dream | 12:28 |
| JaMa | iirc I've also asked to just change styleguide on wiki and let tabs die a slow death just like PR variables.. | 12:28 |
| RP | JaMa: We have a style, I'd much prefer we just stick to the thing | 12:29 |
| ant_work | RP: one for all the indentation of SRC_URI ;) | 12:29 |
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| ant_work | JaMa: I'm thinking about a skeleton for the machine.conf in meta-hh. Do you think ipaq's old examples could be a starting point? | 12:31 |
| JaMa | RP: the same style which was saying that tabs are bad for very long time on OE wiki, but I don't want to argue with you, you;re right that there are more interesting issues (I was just asking if people changed opinion at least a bit) | 12:32 |
| ant_work | unfortunately the stylize scripts cannot cope with strategically placed include/require :/ | 12:32 |
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| RP | ant_work: the last thing I want is a ton of whitespace patches. They are an absolute nightmare to deal with, both to review and to deal with backports around | 12:33 |
| ant_work | I've heard those word before..where ? ah..Linus ;) | 12:33 |
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| RP | ant_work: and what do Linus and I have in common? We have to deal with the patches... | 12:34 |
| ant_work | RP: you are fundamentally right | 12:34 |
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| ant_work | let's janitor the patches on the ML and make our observations (PR not neede anymore, use tabs, ...) case by case | 12:35 |
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| ant_work | JaMa: I've seen the failure for the initramfs image...I have a ton of thinmgs to test but I'll try to build qemux86 once | 12:40 |
| ant_work | JaMa: all normal for arm (maybe a bit of cruft more, empty dirs done by postinst/rc-update) | 12:40 |
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| JaMa | ant_work: you mean in last world build? | 12:44 |
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| JaMa | ant_work: you can ignore that one, it should be fixed already | 12:44 |
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| ant_work | me..I was reading the old log then ;) | 12:46 |
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| JaMa | ant_work: was it about that missing debug variable, right? | 12:48 |
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| JaMa | that's what I've seen in log yesterday when generating report from world | 12:48 |
| ant_work | I don't remember exactly but the fix came just a couple of days later so I/we thought it was just bad luck | 12:51 |
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| ant_work | there is no reason for do_rootfs to fail for qemux86 only... | 12:52 |
| ant_work | JaMa: thre is still the old issue with klcc-cross but you only see that when building multiple machines of the same arch | 12:53 |
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| ant_work | RP: when you have a bit of time pls think to my problem about a shared place/sysroot for the headers arch-specific | 12:55 |
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| ant_work | this path is hardcoded in klcc-cross | 12:56 |
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| RP | ant_work: I don't think I know what "a bit of time" is these days but I will try and take a look | 13:01 |
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| ant_work | RP: I've tried the quick hack to make it machine-specific but then it installs under /bin/<machine> in sysroot and this is not in path | 13:02 |
| ant_work | ideally it lives side by side with the -gcc-cross | 13:03 |
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| kmacleod | JaMa, ant_work, RP: re. whitespace in new content, is there a tool similar to the kernel's check-patch that help ensure that future patches follow the current style guide? | 13:08 |
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| JaMa | kmacleod: agreed | 13:14 |
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| Stygia | zaif, No worries, I was AFK anyway. | 13:49 |
| Stygia | zaif, Say, BTW, 'zaif' is that the arabic word for sword or something else? | 13:50 |
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| LetoThe2nd | for creating a SDK that i can deploy, whats the recommended way / documentation to read? do i understand it correctly that is sdk then contains all the dev-libraries that i decide to ship by default? | 14:04 |
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| RP | LetoThe2nd: grep the docs for populate_sdk | 14:16 |
| LetoThe2nd | RP: thanks | 14:16 |
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| mrAlmond | Hi everyone | 16:14 |
| mrAlmond | I've built an sdk for a freescale imx6 using yocto...the target is meta-toolchain-sdk | 16:14 |
| mrAlmond | unfortunately OPENGL headers are missing in the sdk | 16:14 |
| mrAlmond | how can I make them included automatically | 16:15 |
| mrAlmond | when building the sdk | 16:15 |
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| mrAlmond | ok..I've just noticed that rpm dev packages are available | 16:27 |
| mrAlmond | and the files I needed are inside one of them | 16:27 |
| dv_ | has yocto been tested against ubuntu 13.10 (saucy) ? | 16:27 |
| mrAlmond | now how can I install those rpms so they are placed in the right place? | 16:27 |
| mrAlmond | (in the sdk) | 16:27 |
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| RP | mrAlmond: there is an entry in the recipe where you can add packages | 16:42 |
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| zaif | Stygia: Hi | 17:07 |
| zaif | Stygia: yes, my actual name is Zafrullah Syed. zaif id my nickname | 17:07 |
| Stygia | zaif, Ah alright. Zafrullah? Spelled out that'd be something like Zaif-Ul-Lah, right? | 17:08 |
| zaif | Stygia: spelled as zaf-ru-llah | 17:08 |
| Stygia | zaif, Ah, alright. In which language? | 17:11 |
| zaif | Stygia: It's in urdu | 17:12 |
| zaif | I guess arabic also. | 17:12 |
| Stygia | zaif, Right urdu, in Arabic, purely, it would be Saif-Ul-Lah. | 17:13 |
| Stygia | zaif, Don't really have an Arabic keyboard here, but yea, heh. | 17:13 |
| zaif | ya, but we don't speak arabic and my mother tongue is urdu(in India). :) | 17:14 |
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| zaif | Stygia: Is this correct way to write .bbappend ? | 17:18 |
| zaif | http://pastebin.com/aGcQxgDA | 17:18 |
| Stygia | zaif, Ah yup, I'm not saying your name is "wrong" (which would be nonsense anyway), just chatting. :) | 17:19 |
| Stygia | zaif, It is an Urdu name, not Arabic. ^_^ | 17:19 |
| Stygia | zaif, I wouldn't put it as a subdir of poky. | 17:19 |
| Stygia | poky/meta/etc is it's own thing. | 17:19 |
| Stygia | I'd have it on the same level as poky | 17:19 |
| Stygia | cd dir/ | 17:19 |
| mr_science | peterwhitfield: i should have a working recipe later this evening | 17:19 |
| Stygia | ls: poky/ meta-bebot/ | 17:20 |
| mr_science | at least the 15B version or whatever, then bump to 16 | 17:20 |
| Stygia | zaif, Did you put CONFIG_VIDEO_VIVI =y in the bbappend? | 17:20 |
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| Stygia | zaif, Plus, I don't think you used the pattern I recommended for the linux bbappend. :) Hang on. | 17:21 |
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| zaif | Stygia: ya, it's poky/meta-bebot/recipes-kernel/linux/defconfig | 17:21 |
| zaif | and in /recipes-kernel dir i have put .bbappend | 17:22 |
| zaif | Stygia: I didn't understand, so read this manual and followed it. http://www.yoctoproject.org/docs/current/kernel-dev/kernel-dev.html#changing-the-configuration | 17:23 |
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| Stygia | zaif, http://pastebin.com/T6a1mEGh | 17:23 |
| Stygia | zaif, Yes, it is _almost_ right. :) | 17:23 |
| Stygia | zaif, please note that we keep our entire config file in this dir, under version control, and then copy it into place instead of .config, replacing default config or menuconfig changes | 17:24 |
| Stygia | zaif, But yes, your idea was right, but you placed the recipe directly into recipes-kernel/, I think. | 17:24 |
| Stygia | It needs to be in a subdir linux/ | 17:24 |
| zaif | aha.. ok. and what about the version number? Is it just for my reference or does it actually have any importance in poky? | 17:26 |
| Stygia | zaif, In general, when you bbappend? It needs to be in recipe-name/ subdir, and in that dear you have recipe-name_recipe.version.number.bbappend | 17:26 |
| Stygia | zaif, You need the version of the kernel recipe. | 17:26 |
| Stygia | zaif, You are saying, by the naming, "Append to this recipe of this version, these changes" | 17:26 |
| Stygia | zaif, If the actual recipe is for 3.0.5 and you bbappend to 3.0.6, 3.0.5 won't change at all. | 17:27 |
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| zaif | Stygia: I am using linux-gumstix-3.5 version, so my .bbappend file will be linux-gumstix-3.5.bbappend ? | 17:28 |
| Stygia | zaif, Yes, exactly. | 17:28 |
| Stygia | zaif, And if linux-gumstix-3.5.bb is in a linux/ subdir, so must your bbappend be | 17:28 |
| Stygia | zaif, BRB | 17:31 |
| zaif | Stygia: I copied the original defconfig file to my /meta-bebot/recipes-kernel/linux/files and changed this CONFIG_VIDEO_VIVI=y ?? | 17:32 |
| zaif | Stygia: This is how my tree looks: http://pastebin.com/VEZSPEXK | 17:35 |
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| Stygia | zaif, there. Note I was offline until now, so if you said something I didnt' get it. | 17:53 |
| zaif | Stygia: I copied the original defconfig file to my /meta-bebot/recipes-kernel/linux/files and changed this CONFIG_VIDEO_VIVI=y ?? This is how my tree looks: http://pastebin.com/VEZSPEXK | 17:54 |
| Stygia | zaif, Yes, that looks right! | 17:56 |
| Stygia | zaif, Be aware that will be the final config, though, you will apply only these options. | 17:56 |
| Stygia | If you need to patch the config generated by do_config() in the original recipe, maybe write a loop and sed in the values you want (Read the manpage for sed, maybe) | 17:56 |
| Stygia | There could be a better way, there probably is, if you want to patch the config instead. | 17:57 |
| Stygia | Look in the manual. | 17:57 |
| Crofton | RP, is there anything written up on testing? | 17:59 |
| RP | Crofton: which part of testing? | 18:00 |
| Crofton | what we want to do about hardware testing | 18:00 |
| RP | Crofton: you mean what we have now, future plans or... ? | 18:00 |
| Crofton | yes | 18:00 |
| Crofton | :) | 18:00 |
| Crofton | I am sort of curious about automated testing via qemu | 18:00 |
| RP | Crofton: harware testing or testing via qemu? | 18:01 |
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| Crofton | yes | 18:01 |
| Crofton | I have two thoughts | 18:01 |
| RP | Crofton: I have emailed a few people to try and herd cats. There isn't anything public afaik at this point but hopefully there will be some enhancement bugs soon | 18:01 |
| Crofton | one is testing some gnuradio stuff to make sure we do not regress some simd stuff | 18:02 |
| Crofton | I just want to make sure this doesn't get off list | 18:02 |
| bluelightning | Crofton: I'll be ensuring it doesn't; FWIW I have been pinging people in various places (including the mailing list) but haven't always received a lot of response | 18:05 |
| bluelightning | bbl | 18:06 |
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| zaif | Stygia: You will be working tomorrow? | 18:11 |
| zaif | Stygia: I am exhausted for today. Will be here again tomorrow. | 18:12 |
| zaif | Stygia: Thank You for your patience and helping me so much. :) | 18:13 |
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| Stygia | zaif, No worries, somebody helped me when I didn't get things as well. | 18:19 |
| Stygia | zaif, Karma or something. | 18:19 |
| zaif | :) | 18:19 |
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| otavio | mario-goulart: please paste the script you did for the customer somewhere so we can discuss it with tomz | 18:59 |
| mario-goulart | What a shame | 18:59 |
| mario-goulart | I hope tomz hasn't had any meal recently | 18:59 |
| mario-goulart | just a min | 19:00 |
| tomz | mario-goulart: just e-mail it and i'll take a look - i'll need to digest it | 19:00 |
| mario-goulart | tomz: alright! | 19:01 |
| otavio | tomz: heheh | 19:01 |
| tomz | ;-) | 19:01 |
| otavio | tomz: take a Scotch with you | 19:01 |
| otavio | it'll be a ugly code | 19:01 |
| otavio | heh | 19:01 |
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| JaMa | should packagegroup.bbclass set INHIBIT_DEFAULT_DEPS? by default it gets that from allarch.bbclass but only when PACKAGE_ARCH == "all" | 19:22 |
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| peterwhitfield | @mr_science: that's awesome! I tried manually installing the erlang cross-compile last night but no luck running on the arm hardware | 19:58 |
| peterwhitfield | 7am here and off to work. will check in later | 19:58 |
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| -YoctoAutoBuilder- build #356 of nightly-intel-gpl is complete: Failure [failed Building Images Building Images_1] Build details are at http://autobuilder.yoctoproject.org:8011/builders/nightly-intel-gpl/builds/356 | 23:06 | |
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| brm | hey guys :-) anyone know why network.service is masked by default, and how do I get networking to work nice with systemd | 23:28 |
| brm | I tried systemctr unmask network.service, that works, but the enable fails | 23:28 |
| brm | says no file found | 23:29 |
| -YoctoAutoBuilder- build #320 of nightly-fsl-arm is complete: Failure [failed Building Images Building Toolchain Images Building Toolchain Images_1 Building Images_1 Building Images_2 Publishing Artifacts] Build details are at http://autobuilder.yoctoproject.org:8011/builders/nightly-fsl-arm/builds/320 | 23:30 | |
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| brm | Cannot see /lib/systemd/system a network.service there .. | 23:31 |
| brm | I mean a networking.service in /lib/systemd/system | 23:32 |
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| -YoctoAutoBuilder- build #316 of nightly-fsl-arm-lsb is complete: Failure [failed Building Images Building Images_1 Building Images_2 Publishing Artifacts] Build details are at http://autobuilder.yoctoproject.org:8011/builders/nightly-fsl-arm-lsb/builds/316 | 23:44 | |
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| brm | cananyone help me with systemd stuff? | 23:54 |
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