| Smitty | So, I'm quite familiar with cross compiling for embedded, and frankly, I don't see any difference between that and compiling native for non-embedded. I still use gnu cc, g++, ld, ar, etc, and of course have to specify the architecture, or specific CPU in some cases. although I'm not constructing an entire OS. | 00:00 |
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| Smitty | So, Yocto is providing a framework to facilitate not only the cross-compiling, but also the construction of the file system, the boot image, etc. Is that right ? | 00:03 |
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| b1gtuna | Hello everyone, has any of you figured out how to auto-connect a network interface on boot on Dora/Dylan? | 00:04 |
| kergoth | i'm assuming 'auto eth0' in interfaces isn't doing it :) | 00:06 |
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| b1gtuna | kergoth: that only automatically brings up when I do ifup -a (vs ifup wlan0) | 00:07 |
| kergoth | 'auto' is intended to bringup on boot also | 00:07 |
| kergoth | possible the hardware isn't ready at that point in teh boot process, though | 00:07 |
| b1gtuna | kergoth: reallly? hmm I see so that's where it's broken | 00:07 |
| b1gtuna | kergoth: that is highly possible | 00:07 |
| Smitty | My immediate question would be, Why would auto-connecting a network interface behave any different on Dora/Dylan than any other standard linux build ? | 00:08 |
| kergoth | you'd think it'd automatically come up when it becomes available though, via the udev bits | 00:08 |
| b1gtuna | kergoth: so I don't need a separte systemd service to do this? | 00:08 |
| kergoth | as hotplug used to | 00:08 |
| kergoth | ah, not sure exactly how ifupdown integrates with systemd, or if it does at all | 00:08 |
| kergoth | actually i think you can either use connman, or you could use systemd's built in interface stuff | 00:08 |
| kergoth | e.g. systemctl enable dhcpcd@eth0 or what have you | 00:09 |
| b1gtuna | kergoth: hmmm | 00:09 |
| kergoth | afraid i'm not sure off the top of my head | 00:09 |
| kergoth | Smitty: it isn't in general. but as with desktop distros, the variations in configuration between distros matter | 00:09 |
| b1gtuna | kergoth: so the 'auto' command only works when I have systemd correctly configured, right? | 00:09 |
| kergoth | i'd guess so, it wouldn't surprise me if the ifiupdown startup script just ran ifup -a | 00:10 |
| kergoth | :) | 00:10 |
| Smitty | Thanks kergoth, you have been helpful in clearing some of the mud from my eyes. | 00:10 |
| Smitty | ciao | 00:10 |
| kergoth | np | 00:10 |
| b1gtuna | kergoth: good stuff, thanks for the pointers. I am gonna go fix my systemd scripts now | 00:10 |
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| kergoth | good luck :) | 00:10 |
| b1gtuna | kergoth: thanks =D | 00:10 |
| kergoth | of course wlan config gets complicated, e.g. wpa-supplicant configuration.. | 00:11 |
| kergoth | not that thats particular hard, i just meant another piece to check the systemd integration of | 00:11 |
| b1gtuna | kergoth: ya there are a number of components that i must align | 00:11 |
| kergoth | of course, if it uses ifupdown, can use the wpa-supplicant ifupdown integration and let ifup handle it, in theory.. | 00:12 |
| * kergoth shrugs, as you say, lots of pieces | 00:12 | |
| b1gtuna | kergoth: wait, of it's either systemd service + wpa_supplicat OR ifupdown + wpa_supplicant? Not systemd service + ifupdown + wpa_Supplicant? | 00:13 |
| kergoth | well, a systemd service could run ifup, and then you'd adjust interfaces appropriately, or it coul dhandle the wpa-supplicant/dhcp client bits itself presumably, never messed with that myself | 00:14 |
| kergoth | i'd guess it'd be less complicated to do the ifup route, but then you need tom ake sure it runs at the right time | 00:14 |
| kergoth | whereas systemd services which are bound to an interface will automatically run when teh interface shows up | 00:14 |
| kergoth | (afaik) | 00:14 |
| kergoth | e.g. the @ one i mentioned before | 00:15 |
| b1gtuna | kergoth: gotchat | 00:15 |
| b1gtuna | gotcha* | 00:15 |
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| synthesize | I'm looking for 'advanced' u-boot documentation with regards to strategies in handling upgrades - it seems like a common solution is to just reflash u-boot in order to fix bugs. This happens fairly normally under situations where your CPLD/FPGA has a change in behavior and needs to have a different initialization. | 03:01 |
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| synthesize | I've used hush scripts for this in the past, but I'm thinking about trying to rig up a 'patch' system so that there are compiled u-boot programs that get added to a repo in flash with some sorting rules for what overides what. | 03:02 |
| synthesize | Just wondering if someone has documented this or if I should as I work through it. | 03:02 |
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| linu | hi i try to load g_multi gadget module in my at91sam9g35 board it shows me the following error,and i have used poky with meta-atmel, please see http://pastebin.com/bESYQgt2 can you help me | 06:26 |
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| ak77 | hello! | 07:33 |
| ak77 | i want to upgrade SD card with new image but on a system running from that SD card. tried with simple umount, dd, reboot, but had many errors. | 07:34 |
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| tobiash_ | ak77: I do that with a second partition containing a minimal sysroot | 07:36 |
| tobiash_ | ak77: you can switch to the second partition with systemctl switch-root and flash the first partition from there | 07:36 |
| ak77 | i'm not using systemd (yet). | 07:38 |
| ak77 | but yes. second partition. hmm. | 07:38 |
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| tobiash_ | I also do an emergency remount ro before flashing | 07:40 |
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| tobiash_ | (I wasn't able to unmount the original root somehow) | 07:41 |
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| bluelightning | morning all | 09:50 |
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| LetoThe2nd | howdy bluelightning | 09:58 |
| bluelightning | hi LetoThe2nd | 09:59 |
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| mckoan | good morning | 10:07 |
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| ak77 | bluelightning: morning! | 10:48 |
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| ak77 | still on the quest of searching why my recipe with CC -lbluetooth wants bluez4 package although I use bluez5, it tries to satisfy bluez4 (>= 4.101) * | 10:49 |
| bluelightning | hi ak77 | 10:53 |
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| ak77 | dependency got into my package's build/tmp/work/ARCH/${PN}/${PV}-${PR}/packages-split/${PN}.shlibdeps | 10:55 |
| bluelightning | ak77: it must be linking against the wrong library then | 10:55 |
| bluelightning | ak77: I'd suggest looking at the compile logs and what's in the sysroot | 10:56 |
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| ak77 | bluelightning: the sysroot has only bluez5 libs, "bitbake mypackage" build allright | 10:58 |
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| ak77 | bluelightning: it fails during do_rootfs, when it's installing ipks | 10:58 |
| bluelightning | ak77: right, I got that | 10:59 |
| bluelightning | ak77: anything of interest in log.do_package? | 11:01 |
| ak77 | bluelightning: calculation of shlib requirements concludes with: DEBUG: brcm-patchram-plus-usb: Dependency libbluetooth.so.3 requires package bluez4 | 11:03 |
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| bluelightning | ak77: that says that bluez4 must have been built | 11:07 |
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| bluelightning | ak77: try: grep libbluetooth.so.3 tmp/sstate-control/manifest-* | 11:10 |
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| ak77 | bluelightning: indeed. there are two libbluetooth.so.3, (one for bluez4 and one for bluez5) and then there is libbluetooth.so.3.13.0 (bluez4) and libbluetooth.so.3.17.1 | 11:16 |
| bluelightning | ak77: ok... so assuming you did clean it before as I suggested, something is still depending upon it | 11:17 |
| bluelightning | ak77: to find out what that is, you can do bitbake -g <whatever you normally build> and then grep the .dot files produced for bluez4 | 11:17 |
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| ak77 | bluelightning: khm.. now after bitbake bluez4 -c cleansstate, manifest show only bluez5. now i'll try to bitbake mypackage to see if it brings it back | 11:19 |
| bluelightning | ak77: right, clean/cleansstate would remove the sysroot parts and hence the manifests for them | 11:19 |
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| Leo___ | Anybody that can gives me a tip why bit bake is failing on the last do_rootfs task when trying to build fsl-image-gui? everything seems to have compiled but I got an error "package architecture (armel) does not match system (i386)" and 1.| The following packages have unmet dependencies: | 11:31 |
| Leo___ | 2.| Â packagegroup-core-x11-base : Depends: packagegroup-core-x11-utils but it is not going to be installed" | 11:31 |
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| Leo___ | full error log here: http://pastebin.com/ryx49VAc | 11:31 |
| ak77 | bluelightning: i also did cleanall on my package. now it doesn't compile. can't find includes (bluetooth/bluetooth.h) | 11:32 |
| bluelightning | ak77: if bluez4 and bluez5 are deploying the same files, you may need to clean and build bluez5 again | 11:33 |
| Marex_ | Hi guys, I have another stupid question. Where can I find documentation for the difference between '+=' and '_append' operator please ? | 11:34 |
| Marex_ | I just recently used VAR_mymachine += ' package ' , which broke my build, while VAR_append_mymachine = ' package ' did not. | 11:35 |
| ak77 | bluelightning: thank you. that was solved by clean/build of bluez5, | 11:35 |
| bluelightning | Marex_: the bitbake manual | 11:36 |
| RP | Marex_: look at the bitbake manual. The difference is when the addition is applied. one is immediate, the other deferred | 11:36 |
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| bluelightning | right, what he said :) | 11:36 |
| bluelightning | hi Marex_ btw :) | 11:36 |
| Marex_ | http://docs.openembedded.org/bitbake/html/ this is what I was looking for ! | 11:36 |
| Marex_ | wow, thank you ! | 11:36 |
| RP | Leo___: that looks like the debian package backend, you might have more success with opkg | 11:37 |
| Marex_ | bluelightning: hey :) | 11:39 |
| ak77 | bluelightning: yes, cleaning of all three involved packages (bluez4, bluez5, mypackage) and rebuilding did the trick. thank you. | 11:40 |
| Marex_ | RP: so if I use _append , it's deffered ? | 11:40 |
| bluelightning | ak77: right, but I'm still curious as to how you got into this situation - if something does depend on bluez4 directly in your build, you'll likely hit the same problem later on | 11:40 |
| Marex_ | *deferred | 11:41 |
| bluelightning | Marex_: right, the other difference is that += adds a space when appending, whereas _append does not | 11:41 |
| RP | Marex_: ye | 11:41 |
| RP | yes | 11:41 |
| ak77 | bluelightning: i tried to compile alsa, maybe it picked it up... but this is 'negative surprise', how can system pick up something just because it's there. to be sure one would have to delete everything. | 11:42 |
| bluelightning | ak77: well, ideally we'd flag up this conflict and fail the build immediately | 11:43 |
| bluelightning | ak77: I'm not sure what mechanism we'd use to do that though | 11:43 |
| Marex_ | bluelightning: I got that "far" (but I do appreciate the help!), I am now trying to wrap my head around this "deferred" appending though | 11:46 |
| bluelightning | Marex_: with += the value is appended immediately when the line is parsed | 11:47 |
| bluelightning | Marex_: with _append, it is put into a separate area and gets appended each time the value of the variable is expanded (usually at some much later time) | 11:48 |
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| Marex_ | bluelightning: so if I use this with DEPENDS (DEPENDS_mymachine += vs. DEPENDS_append_mymachine = ), what happens there please ? | 11:49 |
| Marex_ | bluelightning: I am starting it catch up ... maybe ;-/ | 11:49 |
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| bluelightning | Marex_: that is a good question; basically you should not mix overrides and += because the two operations will happen at different times, and because of the override you'll usually end up stomping on the value instead of appending to it | 11:49 |
| Marex_ | bluelightning: so the rule of the thumb here is to use _append with DEPENDS, right ? | 11:50 |
| bluelightning | Marex_: use _append in conjunction with overrides | 11:51 |
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| bluelightning | Marex_: such as _mymachine | 11:51 |
| bluelightning | Marex_: it would be DEPENDS_append_mymachine = " somevalue" | 11:51 |
| bluelightning | Marex_: another note, if you're effectively making the recipe machine-specific by doing this, you'll also want to do PACKAGE_ARCH = "${MACHINE_ARCH}" for the recipe so that multi-machine builds continue to work properly | 11:52 |
| bluelightning | Marex_: (assuming it's not already machine-specific, that is) | 11:53 |
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| lpapp | rburton: I am not sure what you mean by linux is fetched from git, and that can help me. | 11:54 |
| lpapp | I cannot find a .git folder after the fetch. | 11:54 |
| rburton | lpapp: the yocto-kernel recipe is built from a git clone | 11:54 |
| Marex_ | lpapp: see your download dir and there'll be something like git2/ , in there, you'll find the directory with the git repo | 11:55 |
| lpapp | Marex_: I do not. | 11:55 |
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| Marex_ | lpapp: there won't be any .git directory anywhere, it's doing bare clone | 11:55 |
| Marex_ | bluelightning: gotcha, thank you ! | 11:55 |
| lpapp | well, that is not helpful for patch recreation. | 11:55 |
| lpapp | also, we do not have git2 since that would be an embedded git inside a git which is apparently calling for troubles with Yocto. | 11:56 |
| lpapp | rburton: well, I thought git diff could be helpful, but apparently there is no such a thing here for my build dir changes. | 11:58 |
| lpapp | so I still need to go back to the raw diff? | 11:59 |
| Marex_ | bluelightning: so if I use _append with overrides, like _mymachine, the append will happen only after the override is processed, right ? | 12:01 |
| Marex_ | bluelightning: if I use += , the contents of the variable might be dropped once the override is processed ? | 12:01 |
| bluelightning | Marex_: with += the plain, non-overridden value would be dropped when the override applies, yes | 12:02 |
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| bluelightning | Marex_: which is usually not desirable | 12:02 |
| bluelightning | Marex_: if you really do mean that to happen (which is sometimes the case) you'd just do MYVAR_mymachine = rather than += and fully express the value | 12:03 |
| lpapp | Marex_: _append will be added at the end of the parsing, so it is guaranteed to be there. += is an immediate assignment. so if AA += "BB" is followed later by AA = "CC", then it would be lost | 12:03 |
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| Marex_ | bluelightning: ah, got it now, thank you very much! | 12:07 |
| bluelightning | Marex_: np | 12:08 |
| Marex_ | bluelightning: I owe you a beverage of your preference, remind me in dusseldorf :) | 12:10 |
| bluelightning | Marex_: :) | 12:15 |
| Crofton|work | we need a beer fund | 12:15 |
| Marex_ | Crofton|work: make a fundraiser campain :) | 12:17 |
| Crofton|work | yeah | 12:17 |
| Crofton|work | this is on the todo list | 12:17 |
| Marex_ | is that the kind of todo list that looks like an infinite roll of toilet paper ? | 12:18 |
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| Crofton|work | heh | 12:21 |
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| vicenteolivert | Maybe this is a silly question... How can I know what version of gcc Yocto is using? And more important..., how can I change it? | 13:47 |
| bluelightning | vicenteolivert: this will tell you: bitbake -s | grep gcc | 13:48 |
| vicenteolivert | bluelightning: that's the gcc used to compile my target? (the gcc of the toolchain) | 13:50 |
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| bluelightning | vicenteolivert: gcc-cross is, yes | 13:53 |
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| ak77 | I have a function in ROOTFS_POSTPROCESS_COMMAND in a image-making recipe. what variable containes path to host sysroot (where are native tools get installed). (${D} doesnt point to right directory) | 14:53 |
| ak77 | in that function, I need to access some files i placed in /usr/share/xy when installing my native tool. | 14:54 |
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| ndec | ak77: STAGING_DIR_NATIVE i believe is what you need. | 14:57 |
| ndec | or its BINDIR or INCDIR variant | 14:57 |
| ndec | and btw, $D is never the sysroot, but an intermediate folder in the recipe WORKDIR, used before files get installed/populated in the sysroot | 14:58 |
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| ak77 | ndec: thankyou | 15:09 |
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| vicenteolivert | Can anyone help me setting up the sourcery toolchain please? I have downloaded the "meta-sourcery" layer and put it on the poky dir. Then, I have added that layer to my bblayers.conf file, just before the meta layer. Then I downloaded the sourcery codebench tarball and extracted it (that created the ~/mips-2013.05 directory). Then I have added EXTERNAL_TOOLCHAIN = "/home/myuser/mips-2013.05" to local.conf | 16:28 |
| kergoth | sounds about right. what's the issue? | 16:29 |
| vicenteolivert | It fails with: | 16:30 |
| vicenteolivert | /usr/include/gnu/stubs.h:7:27: error: gnu/stubs-32.h: No such file or directory | 16:30 |
| kergoth | if it's including /usr/include headers, that sounds like you'er failing in a native recipe, not a target one, so it isn't even failing in a recipe that uses the external toolchain | 16:31 |
| kergoth | what exactly is failing? which recipe? | 16:31 |
| vicenteolivert | pseudo-native/1.5.1-r4 | 16:31 |
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| bluelightning | vicenteolivert: maybe try NO32LIBS = "1" in local.conf ? | 16:32 |
| vicenteolivert | bluelightning: will that affect to my target system? I'm building a MIPS32 target system. | 16:33 |
| bluelightning | vicenteolivert: no, that's just for the native (build host) part | 16:33 |
| bluelightning | in fact it's only looked at by the pseudo recipe | 16:33 |
| vicenteolivert | Ok, added and running the "bitbake core-image-minimal" again. | 16:34 |
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| vicenteolivert | No..., more errors :-( | 16:34 |
| bluelightning | vicenteolivert: the same error or something else? | 16:35 |
| kergoth | you need to be more specific, if you have an error, post it | 16:35 |
| bluelightning | and use pastebin for the errors ;) | 16:35 |
| bluelightning | if > 2 lines | 16:35 |
| vicenteolivert | Yes, sorry, the error has occured right now. I'm looking at it :-P | 16:35 |
| vicenteolivert | It's not the same recipe. It has failed installing the external toolchain. I'll paste it. | 16:36 |
| vicenteolivert | bluelightning, kergoth: http://pastebin.ca/2497094 | 16:37 |
| vicenteolivert | The directory is trying to find it doesn't exists. | 16:39 |
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| vicenteolivert | bluelightning, kergoth: any clues? | 17:01 |
| bluelightning | brb | 17:02 |
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| kergoth | Hmm, odd, never seen that one. which toolchain is this? | 17:03 |
| vicenteolivert | kergoth: Sourcery Codebench. | 17:03 |
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| vicenteolivert | I'm following the instructions: https://github.com/MentorEmbedded/meta-sourcery | 17:04 |
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| kergoth | vicenteolivert: obviously, it's codebench | 17:07 |
| kergoth | what *exact* version? pro or lite? | 17:08 |
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| kergoth | i hae to support like 32 combinations of arch and versions with that layer | 17:08 |
| vicenteolivert | kergoth: lite. | 17:08 |
| kergoth | i can't test them all | 17:08 |
| vicenteolivert | kergoth: mips-2013.11-36-mips-linux-gnu-i686-pc-linux-gnu.tar.bz2 | 17:08 |
| kergoth | thank you, that'ss what i needed | 17:08 |
| vicenteolivert | kergoth: do you want the link so I can save you time? | 17:08 |
| kergoth | I'll pull it down and try to repro | 17:08 |
| kergoth | sure | 17:08 |
| vicenteolivert | wget https://sourcery.mentor.com/GNUToolchain/package12215/public/mips-linux-gnu/mips-2013.11-36-mips-linux-gnu-i686-pc-linux-gnu.tar.bz2 | 17:08 |
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| vicenteolivert | kergoth: thank you very much for your time and help :-) | 17:10 |
| kergoth | excellent, thanks | 17:10 |
| kergoth | np | 17:10 |
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| kergoth | The lite ones usually aren't a priority for us, but we do try to ensure they stay working with yocto | 17:10 |
| vicenteolivert | kergoth: aha. | 17:11 |
| vicenteolivert | kergoth: I will be off work in a few minutes, so please, don't be upset if you talk me and I don't reply. That's because I'm not here. | 17:12 |
| kergoth | k | 17:13 |
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| vicenteolivert | The reason I'm trying to use this external toolchain is because I need to build a target with micromips support (rootfs compiled with -mmicromips CFLAG). If I try to do that using the Yocto toolchain it fails because it's gcc doesn't recognize that option. I don't know why, because as fas as I know, that option was introduced in Mar 2013, so gcc-4.8.2 should have it. | 17:23 |
| LetoThe2nd | howdy! how to make fortran available as a dependency? | 17:24 |
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| LetoThe2nd | a simple DEPENDS doesn't seem to do the trick | 17:30 |
| bluelightning | vicenteolivert: where were you setting the CFLAGS though? | 17:31 |
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| vicenteolivert | bluelightning: in my local.conf, TARGET_CFLAGS_append = " -mmicromips" | 17:32 |
| bluelightning | vicenteolivert: ok | 17:32 |
| vicenteolivert | I have to go. See you tomorrow and have a nice day :-) | 17:37 |
| kergoth | vicenteolivert: hmm, actually hit an entirely different failure than you did, i got past the toolchain install, but failed in libffi | 17:44 |
| kergoth | actually, i think meta-mentor might have that fix, maybe i should move it or push to oe-core | 17:44 |
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| LetoThe2nd | any hints about needing fortran as a dependency? | 17:49 |
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| * mr_science 's ears perk up at the mention of Fortran... | 17:57 | |
| mr_science | hmm, not enough log today... | 17:58 |
| mr_science | LetoThe2nd: can you catch me up? | 17:58 |
| mr_science | damn, i got a standup in 1 minute... | 17:59 |
| LetoThe2nd | mr_science: i want to make up a recipe for R, for which the docs say it needs fortran | 18:00 |
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| mr_science | back | 18:20 |
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| mr_science | LetoThe2nd: i did some R hacking, er, packaging on Gentoo a while back | 18:21 |
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| LetoThe2nd | hrhrhr | 18:21 |
| mr_science | i don't have access to my yocto build right now, but initially it would depend on the toolchain config | 18:22 |
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| mr_science | ie, --languages=foo | 18:22 |
| mr_science | no reason not to build gfortran, since you pretty much get it for free | 18:22 |
| LetoThe2nd | hmm | 18:23 |
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| mr_science | if it's not already being built that way, you could try a bbappend to add --languages=c,c++,fortan or whatever | 18:23 |
| mr_science | but that's really my ass talking without actually looking at it... | 18:24 |
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| LetoThe2nd | mr_science: no worries, the input is much appreciated | 18:26 |
| mr_science | i have a drs appt this afternoon so i could probably take a look when i get back | 18:28 |
| mr_science | is there an existing bug, or? | 18:28 |
| LetoThe2nd | you mean the fortran thing? | 18:33 |
| mr_science | yeah, if you want a test build/bbappend that should be doable | 18:35 |
| mr_science | should be able to at least build a toolchain with fortran | 18:36 |
| mr_science | do you have any recipes to test yet? | 18:37 |
| LetoThe2nd | no, nothing at all. just at the very beginning | 18:37 |
| mr_science | so there's essentially no R stuff at all yet? | 18:39 |
| mr_science | in anything meta-* anyway... | 18:39 |
| LetoThe2nd | nothing that i'm aware of | 18:42 |
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| kergoth | i think richard looked into / improved the fortran support recently, it's ringing a bell | 18:43 |
| LetoThe2nd | *ding* | 18:43 |
| kergoth | e.g. [OE-core] [PATCH] gcc: Allow fortran to build successfully in 4.8 | 18:44 |
| kergoth | search oe-core list archives for fortran | 18:44 |
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| kergoth | IIRC there's a variable for what gets passed to --languages= that you can change | 18:45 |
| mr_science | sounds good | 18:45 |
| kergoth | LANGUAGES maybe? something along those lines | 18:45 |
| kergoth | check the gcc recipes :) | 18:45 |
| LetoThe2nd | just pulled, will now look at it | 18:45 |
| mr_science | LetoThe2nd: if you can, let me know if you make any progress today | 18:47 |
| mr_science | stephen.arnold42 at the gmail will work... | 18:47 |
| LetoThe2nd | mr_science: well you are araound here, not? | 18:48 |
| mr_science | there's also the github issue tracker that nobody has used yet | 18:48 |
| mr_science | yeah, i will be a bit later | 18:48 |
| mr_science | LetoThe2nd: you can be the first: https://github.com/sarnold/meta-raspberrypi | 18:49 |
| mr_science | this should be more interesting than your average packaging task... | 18:57 |
| * LetoThe2nd has just kicked off the rebuild to see whats going on. | 18:58 | |
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| LetoThe2nd | well i found http://git.yoctoproject.org/cgit/cgit.cgi/poky/commit/?id=5bde5d9b39ea67f19a1a6aedd0c08c6cfedcbe5f | 19:05 |
| LetoThe2nd | but does this mean to do nothing at all because a toolchain rebuild will geive me fortran? or shall i depend on libgfortran now? | 19:05 |
| kergoth | you still need to ensure fortran is enabled in gcc languages, no? | 19:07 |
| kergoth | that commit just ensures the fortran lib is packaged as well | 19:07 |
| LetoThe2nd | ah ok | 19:08 |
| * mr_science still thinking about how to integrate that one... | 19:09 | |
| kergoth | LANGUAGES ?= "c,c++${FORTRAN}${JAVA}" | 19:09 |
| kergoth | looks like you just need to set FORTRAN=",f77" | 19:09 |
| kergoth | from a quick look at the gcc recipes, asi pointed out earlier | 19:10 |
| kergoth | the var is even named what i thought it was :P | 19:10 |
| LetoThe2nd | kergoth: :) | 19:13 |
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| kergoth | ah, looks like gcc-4.8.inc sets FORTRAN = "" specifically | 19:16 |
| kergoth | so you'd actually want to set LANGUAGES = "c,c++,f77" | 19:16 |
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| LetoThe2nd | yes. a bbappend should do, right? | 19:17 |
| kergoth | or local.conf, LANGUAGES is set with ?= | 19:18 |
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| kergoth | ?= is set only if unset, so the config metadata would take precedence if set | 19:18 |
| kergoth | obviously a bbappend is better for long term maintenance | 19:18 |
| kergoth | depends on your goals | 19:18 |
| LetoThe2nd | goal == learning, tinkering | 19:19 |
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| * kergoth nods | 19:22 | |
| kergoth | local.conf for a temporary change to see if it works is what i'd do :) | 19:22 |
| mr_science | if you set it to --enable-languages=c,c++,fortran you should get both f77 and newer | 19:25 |
| kergoth | ah, nice | 19:26 |
| kergoth | good call | 19:26 |
| kergoth | i think richard removed the f77 bits from the metadata, so that'd be much better :) | 19:26 |
| mr_science | meaning it should actually work... ;) | 19:27 |
| kergoth | indeed :) | 19:29 |
| mr_science | i'd wager most people don't mess with fortran | 19:29 |
| kergoth | i'm kind of surprised richard put time into making sure it worked, he must have been bored | 19:29 |
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| mr_science | maybe he was science geek at some point in the past? | 19:30 |
| * mr_science might have one of the only fortran projects on github | 19:30 | |
| mr_science | almost certainly the only windfield model... | 19:30 |
| mr_science | i'm sure *that* would get lots of action if i packaged it for yocto... | 19:31 |
| kergoth | hehe | 19:32 |
| kergoth | one of the many languages i never learned | 19:32 |
| mr_science | it's pretty cool, with real publications and everything | 19:33 |
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| mr_science | http://www.met.sjsu.edu/cgi-bin/wind/windbin.cgi <= it's operational in several orgs | 19:33 |
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| LetoThe2nd | i currently more thinking about use cases of statistics/R in embedded controls | 19:40 |
| kergoth | sounds quite interesting | 19:40 |
| LetoThe2nd | thats why i'm looking into it | 19:41 |
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| mr_science | R is nice tool | 19:46 |
| mr_science | which i don't get to play with much any more... | 19:47 |
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| LetoThe2nd | there are so many nice tools and so little time | 19:48 |
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| kergoth | agreed | 19:52 |
| kergoth | i really want to spend more time with Go | 19:52 |
| mr_science | on the development/V&V side there are some really nice/little-used tools | 19:52 |
| mr_science | actual formal verification stuff, using model checking, SAT solvers, etc | 19:53 |
| mr_science | and some of the cleanest-looking opensource c++ code i've seen | 19:54 |
| mr_science | take a gander at this source => https://github.com/niklasso/minisat | 19:55 |
| mr_science | i wish more people would give a crap about their (public) code... | 19:55 |
| * mr_science goes back to his build branch migration | 19:56 | |
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| mr_science | pulled-pork sandwiches today... | 20:10 |
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| kergoth | I have to say, I kind of hate the bits where libx11 refuses to be buildable without x11 in distro features. it's a useful sanity check, but building it doesn't mean I'm linking much against it, or that it'll end up in my images.. | 22:47 |
| RP | kergoth: I can't say I'm that keen either fwiw but equally there wasn't any opposition to the patches :/ | 22:49 |
| kergoth | it's certainly been around for a while now. it's not always a problem, but is occasionally annoying/limiting | 22:51 |
| * kergoth mulls over such things as an opt-in/opt-out sanity check rather than a requirement | 22:51 | |
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| RP | kergoth: you could probably knock out the check with a suitable override from local.conf I guess :) | 23:26 |
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