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OutBackDingo | ok seriously confused...... i see kaeilos was integrated to yocto and i see oe-core and openembedded | 00:26 |
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OutBackDingo | but i see no references to kaeilos in yocto, and kaeilos has board supprt according to http://www.at91.com/forum/viewtopic.php/f,12/t,18967/ | 00:28 |
OutBackDingo | i also see at91sam9g45ek.conf in https://github.com/openembedded/openembedded/tree/master/conf/machine | 00:33 |
* OutBackDingo is lost | 00:33 | |
OutBackDingo | if i put MACHINE ?= "at91sam9g45ek" it says Please set a valid MACHINE in your local.conf or environment | 00:34 |
bluelightning | OutBackDingo: you would need to find or add the machine definition for that machine | 00:45 |
bluelightning | that would mean finding or creating a layer adding support for the machine | 00:45 |
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OutBackDingo | bluelightning: yes i understand this, i followed http://www.kaeilos.com/download which stated KaeilOS is now integrated into Yocto Project as custom layer, so looking around yocto i see 0 references to it | 00:48 |
bluelightning | OutBackDingo: to say it's "integrated *into* the yocto project" isn't quite right | 00:49 |
OutBackDingo | but if i follow their "legacy" guide it actually accepts the board i have as MACHINE ?= "at91sam9g45ek" and starts the build, unfortunately | 00:49 |
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OutBackDingo | it fails in bb | 00:49 |
bluelightning | I think what is meant is it's built on top of it | 00:49 |
OutBackDingo | i would have thought it to be a "meta" | 00:50 |
bluelightning | if you mean an additional layer, yes | 00:50 |
OutBackDingo | though i cant find a single reference to it | 00:52 |
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bluelightning | you should probably ask mckoan about kaeilos, it's his project | 01:01 |
bluelightning | he'll be asleep now though | 01:01 |
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OutBackDingo | bluelightning: thanks, at least its a lead to pursue :) | 01:15 |
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bluelightning | OutBackDingo: FWIW, you may find support for a specific machine is available independent of a distro such as kaeilos | 01:16 |
bluelightning | at least, that's typically how things are now structured | 01:16 |
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bluelightning | morning all | 09:39 |
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panda84kde | hi everybody. Does anybody know if there's any technical reason for Firefox being stuck at version 10 instead of a more recent ESR release in this layer? https://github.com/OSSystems/meta-browser/tree/master/recipes-mozilla/firefox | 13:52 |
panda84kde | or is it only that the maintainer is not currently working on it? | 13:53 |
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RP | panda84kde: its probably a case that it works and does what they needed | 14:06 |
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panda84kde | RP: thanks. Maybe otavio knows more | 14:12 |
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panda84kde | does the LICENSE_FLAGS = "commercial" in libav mean "beware, patents in here!"? I see it referenced also here: http://www.crashcourse.ca/wiki/index.php/OE_licenses_and_license_flags | 14:19 |
bluelightning | panda84kde: more or less, yes | 14:20 |
T0mW | IMHO, I would expect a "commercial" license declaration to mean "Intellectual Property", patents and trade secrets. | 14:20 |
bluelightning | more broadly it's "there might be stuff that's problematic if you want to ship this as part of a commercial product, so do your due diligence and obtain necessary licenses if needed before using" | 14:21 |
T0mW | yup | 14:21 |
T0mW | bluelightning: no go on exporting that file from my linux source into /usr/include. I'm going to post that on the mailing list, when I find it. heh. | 14:22 |
bluelightning | T0mW: bottom line is, you have to set FILES for one of the packages such that it picks up the additional file(s) you are installing. If you still get the error, it means you haven't done that properly. | 14:23 |
panda84kde | T0mW: bluelightning: thanks. Almost what I've expected. | 14:23 |
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T0mW | bluelightning: yes, this was possible under Bernard. The best I got was an error stating that I my FILES_linux-yocto-custom export was being overwritten. | 14:25 |
T0mW | I tried every variation that I could think of for 'FILES_' | 14:26 |
T0mW | I'm assuming that the 'FILES_' still has the same meaning as it did under Bernard, that it was telling bitbake et. al. to put this file into the final image at the desired location. | 14:27 |
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bluelightning | T0mW: I think the best thing is to put this all into an email and we'll go from there | 14:33 |
T0mW | bluelightning: yes, exactly. It is probably something obvious and we are overthinking it. Let someone else spot the solution. I'm at the point where I'm almost willing to learn python to go tackle the bitbake sources... | 14:34 |
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bluelightning | T0mW: it's very unlikely that will be necessary | 14:36 |
bluelightning | T0mW: btw, the reason FILES_linux-yocto-custom will not work is that if the recipe is called linux-yocto-custom, then ${PN} is linux-yocto-custom | 14:37 |
bluelightning | if you then already have a line that says FILES_${PN} = "something" (and you will always have that by default from meta/conf/bitbake.conf), your FILES_linux-yocto-custom gets set *first* and then the name expansion of FILES_${PN} is done second, and your value is overwritten | 14:38 |
T0mW | bluelightning: I can work around this, but I'd like to know why I cannot get it to work. It may be a decision on the part of the team to not include exports of files from within the kernel tree. This doesn't make sense as there would be custom hardware (in my case) which a header would need to be exported for use on the target system. The end-customer could install the kernel source of mine, then specify the path to my header file, but th | 14:39 |
T0mW | at is kludgy. | 14:39 |
bluelightning | as far as additional headers installed being the kernel being picked up by default goes, I don't know anything about that I'm afraid | 14:40 |
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T0mW | yeah, saw that happen. The only thing that I found that may be a solution is what they do in libtool where they add a name to the PACKAGES list, then export files under that package name. | 14:41 |
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T0mW | PACKAGES =+ "libltdl libltdl-dev libltdl-dbg libltdl-staticdev" | 14:41 |
T0mW | then | 14:41 |
T0mW | FILES_libltdl = "${libdir}/libltdl${SOLIBS}" | 14:41 |
T0mW | it looks like a side-step over some isse | 14:42 |
T0mW | s/isse/issue/ | 14:42 |
T0mW | I'm going to try that and see what it does. | 14:42 |
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lpapp | hi, how can I make sure to do a full rebuild for a package, i.e. to reapply the patches? | 14:54 |
lpapp | -c apply -f? | 14:54 |
lpapp | clearly, the patches next to the recipe does not show the reality. The build folder has a vastly different content | 14:54 |
lpapp | some parts of the patch are not really applied. | 14:54 |
RP | lpapp: -c cleansstate <foo>, then bitbake <foo> | 14:58 |
lpapp | RP: right, thanks. I do not know why, but quilt refresh does not eventually update the original patch file? Do you know why that may happen? | 15:01 |
lpapp | quilt refresh | 15:05 |
lpapp | Refreshed patch patches/0001-mfd-MAX6650-6651-support.patch | 15:05 |
lpapp | yet, it does not actually change. | 15:05 |
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lpapp | does that mean it is a bug in Yocto? | 15:05 |
lpapp | I have done only bitbake virtual/kernel, got the conflict, edit the conflict file, and used quilt refresh | 15:06 |
lpapp | did I forget some command? | 15:06 |
rburton | lpapp: what file doesn't change? the patches/blaa.patch in $WORKDIR, or the patch next to the recipe? | 15:06 |
lpapp | latter | 15:07 |
rburton | lpapp: are you doing that editing/quilt inside a terminal that do_patch opened for you (the patch failed user resolver), or manually? | 15:08 |
lpapp | right, the next in the build stuff is correct | 15:08 |
lpapp | so I need to manually copy it back? :O | 15:08 |
lpapp | rburton: user resolver in a terminal | 15:09 |
rburton | the source says it copies back when you close the terminal | 15:09 |
rburton | but i've never used it, so it's possibly broken in some way. | 15:09 |
lpapp | ok, so there is some bug here. | 15:09 |
lpapp | yeah, I can reproduce it anytime | 15:10 |
lpapp | the patches in patches/ in the linux tree are ok | 15:10 |
lpapp | but after ctrl-d, the recipe patches are still the same. | 15:10 |
lpapp | not the updated version. | 15:10 |
lpapp | poky-dylan here. | 15:10 |
lpapp | rburton: is there some error reporting missing? | 15:13 |
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lpapp | rburton: it is possible that it is not a bug, but missing something, but even then it is a bug since there is no error reporting. ;-) | 15:17 |
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rburton | lpapp: sure. never used this, so i can't help much. | 15:19 |
lpapp | rburton: well, I do not really see any copy here really... https://git.yoctoproject.org/cgit/cgit.cgi/poky/tree/meta/classes/patch.bbclass | 15:20 |
lpapp | where did you see that it actually syncs up? | 15:20 |
lpapp | RP: got a clue? | 15:21 |
rburton | patchset.Refresh can call QuiltTree.Refresh() that does copyfile | 15:21 |
rburton | maybe the patchset isnt a QuiltTree instance | 15:22 |
lpapp | rburton: ? | 15:22 |
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lpapp | well, I am here to try any python print from bitbake. | 15:23 |
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lpapp | if anyone says what to print out... | 15:23 |
lpapp | I do not have time currently to track it down on my own as I need proceed with my stuff. | 15:24 |
lpapp | rburton: also, it is horrible that if you open up vim, and close it, you do not see the conflicts anymore. | 15:25 |
lpapp | is there a way to keep the buffer around? | 15:26 |
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rburton | that's up to your terminal and text editor | 15:27 |
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lpapp | rburton: ok, but how to debug the copy issue? | 15:30 |
rburton | lpapp: the usual way? | 15:30 |
rburton | insert debugging statement or use a debugger. | 15:31 |
lpapp | rburton: no, I mean, what to insert | 15:31 |
lpapp | I am not aware of this codebase. | 15:31 |
lpapp | and you cannot probably reproduce the issue just yet. | 15:31 |
rburton | dude you've got about ten minutes less experience with this module than me | 15:31 |
rburton | i'd start by inserting "print HERE" statements so you know where it's actually executing | 15:31 |
lpapp | :) | 15:32 |
lpapp | hopefully RP can help then... | 15:32 |
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WarheadsSE | What would be the proper way to ensure that something from the native sysroot is in the PATH so that a Makefile uses it.. | 15:45 |
WarheadsSE | Just a prepend and an `export PATH=${STAGING_BINDIR_NATIVE}:$PATH` ? | 15:46 |
rburton | the native sysroot is in the path already | 15:49 |
WarheadsSE | hrm | 15:49 |
WarheadsSE | interesting. | 15:51 |
WarheadsSE | seems rsync not installed.. | 15:51 |
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WarheadsSE | I had to patch something the other day that was looking for `file`, which WAS in the native bindir, but was not being found | 15:52 |
WarheadsSE | and now I have this issue here, again. | 15:52 |
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WarheadsSE | So, either native is not actually in the path by default, or something is screwing it up | 15:53 |
g28 | Hi. Is it possible to get git annex to work as a part of the fetch step of a yocto recipe? | 15:53 |
rburton | WarheadsSE: use -c devshell to check the PATH yourself. but maybe the check tries /usr/bin/foo first? | 15:53 |
rburton | WarheadsSE: i've seen configure scripts that hard-code common prefixes and then go hunting | 15:54 |
WarheadsSE | yeah.. | 15:55 |
WarheadsSE | this is outright in the makefile. | 15:55 |
rburton | yep | 15:55 |
WarheadsSE | just a plain `rsync -av ` | 15:55 |
rburton | rsync in a makefile? | 15:55 |
rburton | how interesting | 15:55 |
WarheadsSE | yeah.. | 15:55 |
rburton | cp not good enough to install with? :) | 15:56 |
WarheadsSE | apparently they are using it for some sort of translation layer in html .. | 15:56 |
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WarheadsSE | hah .. hard to enter a devshell when you have no terminal (ty docker, and me not having included screen) | 15:57 |
rburton | ha | 15:57 |
rburton | yeah that would be a problem | 15:57 |
rburton | basically its got the native sysroot near the beginning | 15:58 |
WarheadsSE | and it should | 15:58 |
rburton | bitbake.conf:PATH_prepend = "${COREBASE}/scripts:${STAGING_BINDIR_TOOLCHAIN}:${STAGING_BINDIR_CROSS}:${STAGING_DIR_NA | 15:58 |
WarheadsSE | which I did note a minute ago, that rsync is apparently not in the sysroot | 15:58 |
rburton | WarheadsSE: did you put DEPENDS=rsync-native? | 15:58 |
WarheadsSE | rsync-native .. mmmm | 15:58 |
rburton | without that, it won't be :) | 15:58 |
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WarheadsSE | Yeah, i had rsycn in there.. derp'd not adding -native | 16:03 |
rburton | invoice is in the mail | 16:03 |
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WarheadsSE | rburton: hrm.. | 16:25 |
lpapp | what exactly is this feature I should look for that gets the linux kernel from git? | 16:25 |
lpapp | added in danny? | 16:25 |
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rburton | lpapp: linux-yocto has been fetching from git for a long time | 16:27 |
lpapp | SRC_URI = "${KERNELORG_MIRROR}/linux/kernel/v3.0/linux-${PV}.tar.bz2;name=kernel \ | 16:28 |
lpapp | right, I have that. | 16:28 |
lpapp | rburton: but does that mean we end up again having the git in git trap? | 16:29 |
rburton | lpapp: many recipes fetch from git repos | 16:29 |
lpapp | rburton: yes, but remember, we check Yocto into git. | 16:29 |
lpapp | along with the downloaded folders. | 16:29 |
rburton | and remember we've said don't check download/ into git | 16:29 |
lpapp | or the downloads folder will have the tarball with .git inside? | 16:29 |
rburton | you can tell it to make tarballs, iirc | 16:30 |
lpapp | well, I remember, but it would be lotta work to refactor. | 16:30 |
rburton | BB_GENERATE_MIRROR_TARBALLS, or something. | 16:30 |
lpapp | that will avoid git which I want to have for linux kernel development | 16:30 |
lpapp | or you mean, that generates tarball with .git inside? | 16:30 |
rburton | http://www.yoctoproject.org/docs/current/ref-manual/ref-manual.html#var-BB_GENERATE_MIRROR_TARBALLS | 16:32 |
lpapp | rburton: that does not make it clear, so I should file a bugreport | 16:33 |
lpapp | it does not make it clear that it archives it with or without .git | 16:33 |
rburton | "makes a tarball of the git repository" | 16:33 |
rburton | can't really get any clearer | 16:33 |
lpapp | it kinda feels like it uses .git inside, but cannot be sure | 16:33 |
lpapp | rburton: well, it is fully unclear to me. | 16:34 |
lpapp | git archive also archives the repository, but /without/ .git. | 16:34 |
rburton | "tarball of the git repository". not "copy of the working directory". | 16:34 |
lpapp | see how confusing it is? | 16:34 |
rburton | not at all | 16:35 |
rburton | its a tarball, the contents of which are the git repository | 16:35 |
lpapp | you think I am lying when I say I am fully confused? | 16:35 |
rburton | the git repository is the thing you get when you do a git clone. | 16:35 |
lpapp | the git repository contains .git | 16:35 |
lpapp | but then again, git archive also archives the repository, without .git | 16:35 |
rburton | no it doesn't | 16:35 |
lpapp | ask 10 people, and see how many of them will be confused. :) | 16:35 |
rburton | git-archive creates a copy of the working tree | 16:35 |
lpapp | nope | 16:36 |
rburton | there isn't debate over the meaning of "git repository". and it's in a tarball. | 16:36 |
lpapp | what even shows more my confusion, I still do not understand what this variable actually does | 16:36 |
lpapp | after this long conversation | 16:37 |
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g28 | is there a way to specify that a SRC_URI fetched via git should get the fully repo (clone) and not a shallow clone? | 16:39 |
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rburton | g28: it is a full clone | 16:40 |
g28 | i need to run git annex get to retrieve some binary data files that are part of our git codebase, but they fail to load. the errors seem to indicate that references to other branches are missing | 16:40 |
rburton | g28: so there's a clone made to DL_DIR, and then that is re-cloned to the work directory | 16:41 |
rburton | g28: presumably that's dropping the remote refs as they're a step removed | 16:42 |
lpapp | rburton: https://bugzilla.yoctoproject.org/show_bug.cgi?id=5684 | 16:42 |
yocti | Bug 5684: normal, Undecided, ---, scott.m.rifenbark, NEW , Unclear BB_GENERATE_MIRROR_TARBALLS documentation | 16:42 |
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rburton | g28: you might need to write a gitannex fetcher :/ | 16:42 |
g28 | rburton: thanks. this gives me a couple hints | 16:42 |
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rburton | g28: this might be evil, but you can tell it to do a bare clone to WORKDIR (which causes it to be a mirror) and then checkout yourself. | 16:43 |
rburton | g28: try ;bareclone=1 in your SRC_URI, and then do a checkout before any annex stuff | 16:43 |
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RP | g28: You'll probably need a subclass of the git fetcher with annex capabilities added. the sumbmodules one (gitsm) is a kind of example of how to do that. I doubt it will work out the box | 16:52 |
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WarheadsSE | rburton: crraaap .. so "WARNING: Screen started. Please connect in another terminal with "screen -r devshell" | 17:31 |
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mr_science | moin | 17:44 |
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