| seebs | strace it, wait until a short period after you stop seeing opens-for-read of sstate files, SIGKILL? | 00:07 |
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| seebs | ... hmm. I think the thing where I start getting bad ideas if I don't have dinner is kicking in. | 00:07 |
| kergoth | I'd sooner just patch bitbake to add a new argument ala -p (exit after parsing) :) | 00:07 |
| kergoth | alternatively, use an event handler. e.g. exit at BuildStarted | 00:07 |
| kergoth | hmm | 00:08 |
| kergoth | not sure if that fires before or after the scenequeue, actually :) | 00:08 |
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| blloyd__ | does anyone have some suggestions on how to find why an X11 wouldn't have keyboard when started from init, but when the init.d is restarted later everything just works? | 01:02 |
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| aKS | morning | 06:33 |
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| mckoan | good morning | 07:43 |
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| nerdboy | moin | 07:44 |
| nerdboy | it is after midnight, after all... | 07:44 |
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| osse | nerdboy: http://www.total-knowledge.com/~ilya/mips/ugt.html | 08:05 |
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| nerdboy | yeah, there's been various schools of thought on that topic... | 08:11 |
| osse | maybe it's best to avoid words that imply a certain time of day | 08:12 |
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| nerdboy | i think people just do what they want | 08:14 |
| nerdboy | with only the occasional timezone outbreak | 08:15 |
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| nerdboy | developers also tend to follow the sun less than most people | 08:18 |
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| bluelightning | morning all | 08:55 |
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| rburton | JaMa: is there a meta-luna layer already? | 09:56 |
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| d_s_e | Hi, how do I force the build of a recipe? Usually I did a "bitbake -f -b RECIPENAME" after doing changes to the source code, which worked fine. But for some reason this isn't working anymore. | 10:29 |
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| rburton | changes to the source code in the work directory? bitbake -C compile RECIPE | 10:31 |
| rburton | -C is awesome | 10:32 |
| d_s_e | rburton: ah ok, I've seen the -C option, but i mssed the compile. Thanks! | 10:33 |
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| falstaff | Hi, I'm trying to use Yocto Autobuilder to create OE builds | 11:58 |
| falstaff | However, somehow my slave misses some layers. I have the layers in my config (under repos), they appear in the slaves source directory, but they don't appear in the slaves build directory | 12:00 |
| falstaff | Which step is responsible to copy the layers from slaves source to slaves build directory? | 12:00 |
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| osse | The BitBake manual says "Layers allow you to isolate different types of customizations from each other." That's fine. But I'm having trouble understanding what a layer *is*, not does. Is it a single .bb file? A directory of them? | 12:50 |
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| erbo | osse: http://www.yoctoproject.org/docs/current/ref-manual/ref-manual.html#metadata-machine-configuration-and-policy-configuration | 12:52 |
| erbo | simply put: a directory following a certain layout containing recipes, classes and configuration files | 12:53 |
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| osse | erbo: thank you! | 12:57 |
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| rburton | osse: layers are normally called meta-something, so meta-networking, meta-multimedia, meta-ti are all separate layers | 13:10 |
| LetoThe2nd | mind: meta-queastions is *not* a OE layer. | 13:11 |
| osse | rburton: thanks. I'm just getting in to this. There are so many new words to learn :p | 13:12 |
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| JaMa | rburton: not yet | 13:58 |
| JaMa | rburton: only meta-webos-ports | 13:58 |
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| rburton | JaMa: i missed the discussion about luna at the oe meeting, was anyone taking minutes? | 13:59 |
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| osse | I get the following error while running bitbake core-image.minimal: http://sprunge.us/HCAB - The git clone command fails, and sure enough the dir it complains about contains nothing but a lock file. I assume one of the previous commands failed/did the wrong thing but I don't know where to look. | 14:08 |
| osse | (Also: I'm not sure if this is the right place for this kind of questions. Feel free to tell me to shut up) | 14:08 |
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| JaMa | rburton: it was mostly short demo, you can find link to image in this channel, my plan now is to strip it from distro-specific bits and provide it as alternative image | 14:24 |
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| mckoan | osse: try bitbake -c cleansstate virtual/kernel && bitbake virtual/kernel | 14:33 |
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| osse | mckoan: That first one ran without errors. The second one is still running and at the do_fetch step for linux-imx-... with some 200 tasks remaining. | 14:36 |
| osse | That seems to be a good thing :) | 14:36 |
| osse | mckoan: I suppose 'bitmake -c cleanstate' is equivalent (in spirit) to 'make clean'? | 14:37 |
| osse | Btw, thank you! | 14:38 |
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| rburton | osse: cleansstate - double s | 14:39 |
| rburton | cleansstate will delete the local build directory and any relevent sstate cache files | 14:40 |
| rburton | which ensures that you'll do a build when you next run bitbake as -c clean will only remove the local build but not anything in sstate | 14:41 |
| osse | Ahh, ok. I didn't make that typo when I ran the command, by the way. | 14:41 |
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| nerdboy | moin | 14:46 |
| osse | moin | 14:47 |
| osse | it is after midnight, after all... | 14:47 |
| nerdboy | ar ar | 14:47 |
| nerdboy | it's even kinda early on the west coast | 14:48 |
| * nerdboy 's wife dislikes getting up early | 14:48 | |
| osse | Here on the west coast it's time to go home from work. Most likely a different west coast | 14:49 |
| nerdboy | highly probable even | 14:50 |
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| bryan | Hello. How does one choose the root filesystem type? I would like to use squashfs. I am close to getting my image to build with the read-only root FS feature (I think). I have enabled support for squashfs in the kernel as well. What else is required? | 14:52 |
| * nerdboy can hopefully start his daisy build today | 14:52 | |
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| kergoth | bryan: see IMAGE_FSTYPES | 14:53 |
| * nerdboy considers putting a stumbling block in front of kergoth | 14:53 | |
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| nerdboy | i didn't get my remote shell up... | 14:54 |
| nerdboy | time to run perl-cleaner... | 14:55 |
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| bryan | Thank you kergoth. I see it now in the documentation. This variable is not specified in my local.conf file. Where is it coming from? | 14:56 |
| bryan | Or is it taking on a default value since it is not specified? | 14:57 |
| sjolley | YPTM: Participant passcode: 42001078 Dial-in number: 1.972.995.7777 US Toll Free number: 1.877.561.6828 BlackBerry users, click this link to join your conference as a participant: 1.972.995.7777x42001078# | 14:57 |
| pidge | YPTM: Beth is on. | 14:59 |
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| nerdboy | Yocto Project Technical Meeting? | 14:59 |
| * nerdboy is the nosy new guy | 14:59 | |
| sjolley | Yes that is what YPTM is. :) | 14:59 |
| armpit | YPTM: Armin is on | 15:00 |
| fray | YPTM: Mark H is here.. | 15:00 |
| BSDCat | YPTM: Matthew is on | 15:00 |
| tomz2 | YPTM: Tom Z on | 15:01 |
| * nerdboy was on a business meeting until almost 1 am last night | 15:01 | |
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| nerdboy | ain't irc wonderful? | 15:01 |
| * nerdboy puts a sock in it | 15:01 | |
| maxin | YTPM: maxin here | 15:02 |
| sgw_ | YPTM: Saul here | 15:02 |
| halstead | YPTM Michael on the call | 15:02 |
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| * fray doesn't know offhand.. | 15:04 | |
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| darknighte | YPTM: Sean is dialing in | 15:04 |
| halstead | sjolley: AB downtime on Friday. | 15:05 |
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| * fray gets the question now.. I must have missed something the first time | 15:07 | |
| * darknighte missed the question, but heard some of the answer | 15:07 | |
| darknighte | fray: dvhart: what was the question about tune files? | 15:08 |
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| fray | he was wondering about adding support new new bsps,cores that don't previously exist.. | 15:09 |
| fray | if you put them in an OSV layer, BSP layer, etc.. then they are not generally useful.. | 15:09 |
| fray | he searches the layer index and found a reference in meta-mentor... | 15:09 |
| fray | but meta-mentor is just overriding tunes and not adding new ones AFAIK | 15:09 |
| darknighte | hmmmm. I will have to check with kergoth on that. | 15:10 |
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| darknighte | for AMD, I went ahead an added the tune file into meta-amd, which seems appropriate to me. | 15:10 |
| fray | darknighte no, I know there are overrides as part of supporting the sourcery toolchain | 15:10 |
| fray | darknighte, my answer was add the tune files to where the toolchain is.. or where it's generally applicable.. | 15:11 |
| * darknighte nods | 15:11 | |
| darknighte | k | 15:11 |
| fray | starting with the BSP layer is a logical place, but once "other" people start to use the code, then move it to the core.. | 15:11 |
| fray | but if the core will never compile/optimize for that core/soc, then it makes no sense to be in the core | 15:11 |
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| bluelightning | https://wiki.yoctoproject.org/wiki/Stable_branch_maintenance | 15:13 |
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| * nerdboy new guy raises his hand | 15:15 | |
| darknighte | fray: OEDAM == OpenEmbedded Developers - America Meeting | 15:15 |
| darknighte | for the curious: http://openembedded.org/wiki/OEDAM | 15:16 |
| darknighte | Jefro: any idea when you'll have your notes posted? | 15:16 |
| fray | didn't I say America? | 15:16 |
| fray | i I didn't, I meant to | 15:16 |
| darknighte | heh. you said architecture. | 15:16 |
| fray | ya, not what I meant to say.. | 15:17 |
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| Jefro | darknighte working on minutes today | 15:18 |
| Jefro | (btw I'm not in the call, telecom issues at the home office) | 15:18 |
| darknighte | Jefro: thx. we should make sure to attach it to to the OEDAM page on the OE wiki | 15:19 |
| nerdboy | as an aside, gentoo arm stages are armvXX-specific and either hard or softfloat, then users are expected to modify their base CFLAGS to be what the want, tuning, specific optimizations, etc | 15:19 |
| nerdboy | i had to tweak it to work, but rpi bsp adds the potential to tune for arm1176jzfs | 15:21 |
| RP | nerdboy: We support different tunes too... | 15:21 |
| nerdboy | just so i'm clear, are talking about somethgin different? | 15:21 |
| sjolley | YPTM is done. | 15:21 |
| nerdboy | RP: yes, that's one of the things that needed fixing in meta-rpi | 15:22 |
| * darknighte waves to nerdboy | 15:22 | |
| nerdboy | what i just said is essentially the same thing in both and it makes sense to me | 15:23 |
| nerdboy | that's all | 15:23 |
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| darknighte | nerdboy: that is indeed the same thing | 15:23 |
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| nerdboy | if it's changing, i guess i'd like to know more? | 15:24 |
| darknighte | nerdboy: no real changes that I know of | 15:24 |
| * nerdboy thinks he might still be unclear | 15:24 | |
| nerdboy | oh | 15:24 |
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| RP | nerdboy: we're not rebuilding gcc any more for every single tune, we can get away with doing it once per architecture | 15:26 |
| nerdboy | nm... <= best rosanne rosannadanna voice | 15:26 |
| RP | nerdboy: the things like libc, libgcc and so on *are* still compiled per tune | 15:26 |
| nerdboy | okay, then i remember that one coming up | 15:26 |
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| nerdboy | was that just to ratify policy? | 15:27 |
| * nerdboy still playing anthropologist in yocto-land | 15:27 | |
| nerdboy | obviously i'm that guy that sits in front of the class and doesn't stay quiet | 15:29 |
| nerdboy | hopefully in a good way... | 15:29 |
| kergoth | RP: what's the best way to pare down an emitted sstate-cache to just what's necessary to build? e.g. I know unless I intend to change package managers, it should be safe to drop do_package. I can of course create a second build dir that pulls from the first's sstate-cache as an sstate mirror, and use the sstate cache it produces from that as a subset, but I'm not sure that's ideal | 15:32 |
| nerdboy | anyway, if it matters, my grumpy toolchain side likes that idea | 15:33 |
| fray | kergoth, not the 'best' solution, but I've set my sstate directory as a 'mirror'.. then created a new blank sstate dir.. | 15:33 |
| fray | do the build, the items are mirrored as they are used.. and I only have what was necessary to run that one build | 15:33 |
| kergoth | okay, that's what i just described | 15:33 |
| * nerdboy helps george with the gnat-gcc toolchain | 15:33 | |
| fray | sorry.. I missed that (doing 5 things at once this morning.. again) | 15:34 |
| kergoth | :) no worries, good to know that that's indeed a valid approach | 15:34 |
| kergoth | we're distributing sstate, and the thing gets massive, so anything we can do to get it down to a bare minimum would be useful | 15:34 |
| kergoth | i'll use that approach for now | 15:34 |
| kergoth | i tried just rm'ing the do_package archives, but that made bitbake awfully upset, it started rebuilding things and getting setscene errors | 15:34 |
| kergoth | hence switching to letting bitbake grab what it needs instead | 15:35 |
| kergoth | RP: do we have a way to tell bitbake to fetch sstate and then exit after that, or an event that's fired at that point, after calling the sstate check hooks, but before running either runqueue? | 15:35 |
| fray | there was a script that would let you prune it.. but I've not used it | 15:35 |
| * nerdboy wonders if scanelf/ldd could help with that... | 15:35 | |
| nerdboy | sounds a bit like what revdep-rebuild does | 15:36 |
| kergoth | RP: i'll dig, but figured i'd see if you knew off the top of your head | 15:36 |
| nerdboy | the "paring-down" part i mean | 15:36 |
| kergoth | no, that wouldn't be of use. we're interested in what bitbake requires, not what the binaries do | 15:36 |
| nerdboy | yeah, still early for me... | 15:37 |
| nerdboy | but it's an interesting mix of bash and python... | 15:42 |
| * nerdboy likes interesting implementations | 15:42 | |
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| nerdboy | denix: in case i didn't mention it last week, it was really cool to finally meet you irl | 16:31 |
| bryan | Hello. I want to inject some files into the filesystem before actually building the rootFS image. How can I do this? | 16:37 |
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| nerdboy | bryan: before do_rootfs? maybe a prepend or even a base-files sort of recipe | 16:41 |
| kergoth | there are hooks for that sort of thing too in the rootfs creation process | 16:41 |
| nerdboy | depends on what you need | 16:41 |
| kergoth | e.g. ROOTFS_POSTPROCESS_COMMAND | 16:42 |
| kergoth | for generic shell command injection | 16:42 |
| nerdboy | that would be post, but is there a pre? | 16:42 |
| * nerdboy has used too much custom ROOTFS_POSTPROCESS in the older stuff | 16:42 | |
| kergoth | yep, there is | 16:43 |
| nerdboy | i broke the old lab dir with the package/file info :/ | 16:43 |
| kergoth | I'd like to see a generic recipe that just grabs all the files from a directory the user specifies to shove into / in the rootfs | 16:43 |
| bryan | Thank you both. Is there documentation somewhere on these hooks? | 16:43 |
| kergoth | its a common request | 16:43 |
| kergoth | probably | 16:43 |
| kergoth | there's a variable reference in the yocto documentation, i think | 16:44 |
| * nerdboy has made bin packages too | 16:44 | |
| * kergoth has never actually read most of the docs :) | 16:44 | |
| nerdboy | which is fairly clean and tracked by package manager | 16:44 |
| nerdboy | there are one or two examples in the main layers | 16:45 |
| nerdboy | *examples of custom ROOTFS_POSTPROCESS stuff | 16:45 |
| nerdboy | at least one anyway | 16:45 |
| bryan | Ok. "ROOTFS_POSTPROCESS_COMMAND" actually does appear in the ref manual. When precisely would these command be executed? | 16:46 |
| kergoth | after the packages are installed, but before the images are created from the rootfs | 16:46 |
| bryan | Is it right before the root filesystem is archived or compressed? Or after? | 16:46 |
| bryan | I see | 16:46 |
| kergoth | iirc IMAGE_ROOTFS is the path to the root of the filesystem | 16:46 |
| kergoth | after would be the image postprocess command | 16:47 |
| kergoth | this is the rootfs postprocess command, so it's before the image bits | 16:47 |
| bryan | Excellent. This is exactly what I wanted. Thanks! | 16:47 |
| kergoth | np | 16:47 |
| nerdboy | another happy customer... | 16:48 |
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| volker- | In my next life I become an embedded engineer. Somehow every job I take has nothing to do with embedded but I end up in it | 16:59 |
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| Crofton | apparently Belen is learning to solder | 17:05 |
| nerdboy | do you smell burning flux or something? | 17:09 |
| ddalex | beware of the designer with a soldering iron | 17:09 |
| * nerdboy waits to see what she comes up with | 17:09 | |
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| sgw_ | khem: I just filed bug #6270 to help coordinate the fsl-ppc issue, can you comment on your progress in the bug and I will ping the FSL guys to look at this today also. | 17:23 |
| yocti | Bug https://bugzilla.yoctoproject.org/show_bug.cgi?id=6270 major, Medium+, 1.7 M1, raj.khem, NEW , [GCC-4.9] libgcc fails to build with ICE Issue with fsl-ppc | 17:23 |
| khem | sgw_: thanks assign it to me | 17:24 |
| sgw_ | khem: already done, thanks for staying on top of it. | 17:26 |
| khem | no worries | 17:26 |
| khem | I am working with gcc community as well to get this fixed | 17:26 |
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| bryan | I have been using the instructions provided by Gumstix to make an SD card to boot from. Now I have my system set up to make a squashfs filesystem and I don't actually know how to put everything onto an SD card now. How doy others do it? | 17:28 |
| bryan | *do* | 17:29 |
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| khem | bryan: there are various scripts to create SDK cards | 17:35 |
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| kergoth | wic seems promising, I wonder what it'd take to make it happier for non-x86 setups. currently some of its bits seem rather specific to bootimg/syslinux/etc | 17:36 |
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| bryan | khem: What are they? Where can I find info on them? | 17:48 |
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| kergoth | Any objections to https://github.com/MentorEmbedded/meta-mentor/commit/efc648cd going into bitbake.conf? | 17:57 |
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| fray | no worries here.. | 17:58 |
| sgw_ | kergoth: make sense, should add the Savannah ones when they get added | 17:59 |
| kergoth | k | 17:59 |
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| sgw_ | khem: what did you add that could cause gcc 4.8 to fall over with your patches included, but not enabled | 18:00 |
| kergoth | tempting to say we should change the vardepvalue to be basename+checksum pairs, not the actual urls, since as long as the checksums match, where it came from is irrelevent | 18:00 |
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| kergoth | hmm | 18:21 |
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| kergoth | RP: do you know offhand if the dep scanning code picks up on variable references done through the python variable name lookup? e.g. FOO = "${@BAR + 'meh'}" — does it recognize that BAR is a dependency? I'm guessing it doesn't, and until it does, we should avoid referencing variables in that way. | 18:22 |
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| kergoth | ah, yes, looks like it doesn't from my limited testing | 18:27 |
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| sgw_ | khem: ping | 18:27 |
| nerdboy | that guy's blog from yesterday didn't mention being locked up like a veal cutlet | 18:28 |
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| * nerdboy should email him that one | 18:29 | |
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| khem | sgw_: yes | 18:34 |
| khem | sgw_: whats the failure | 18:35 |
| sgw_ | khem: not sure if this is you or something in the whole gcc refactor, but we are falling over in master with 4.9 visible, but not enabled (GCCVERSION=4.8% | 18:35 |
| denix | nerdboy: thanks. it was nice meeting you too! | 18:36 |
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| khem | sgw_: ok, point me to error | 18:37 |
| nerdboy | same for khem of course... | 18:37 |
| kergoth | Hmm, I need to find the time to finish breaking up external-sourcery-toolchain one of these days. keeps falling onto/off the back burner | 18:37 |
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| sgw_ | khem: any of the AB failures listed before this | 18:37 |
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| nerdboy | it was mainly one person missing from my list... | 18:38 |
| sgw_ | It looks like gcc-cross-initial and gcc-cross are getting 4.9, but libgcc is getting 4.8 | 18:38 |
| nerdboy | <cough>kergoth</cough> | 18:38 |
| khem | sgw_: I sent a patch | 18:40 |
| khem | to OE-Core ml this morning | 18:40 |
| khem | or last night | 18:41 |
| khem | take that patch | 18:41 |
| khem | http://patches.openembedded.org/patch/71573/ | 18:41 |
| khem | that should hopefully fix it | 18:41 |
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| sgw_ | khem clearly I missed that one today! | 18:42 |
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| sgw_ | khem thanks | 18:42 |
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| bryan | I have a question which is not strictly a Yocto question, but still very relevant. If I am putting a squashfs filesystem on an SD card, what partition id code should be used for that partition? | 18:51 |
| bryan | As in sfdisk. | 18:51 |
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| fray | bryan, it probably doesn't matter.. | 18:54 |
| fray | I know a lot of people just use ext2 as their default.. | 18:55 |
| bryan | K. Thanks. | 18:55 |
| Crofton | fyi, http://community.validation.linaro.org/scheduler/alljobs?search=Open&length=25#table | 18:56 |
| Crofton | http://community.validation.linaro.org/dashboard/image-charts/OpenEmbedded-CURRENT-bbb | 18:57 |
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| darknighte | anyone know why the license_flags = "commercial" applies to gst-openmaxx and libomxil? | 19:00 |
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| nerdboy | openmax is still TI i believe, not sure the exact license | 19:00 |
| nerdboy | denix should know... | 19:01 |
| darknighte | looks like LGPLv2 afaict | 19:01 |
| darknighte | denix: do you know what the license is for openmax? | 19:01 |
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| rburton | The You're Doomed License | 19:03 |
| darknighte | hehehe! cool, does that mean I can run doom on it? | 19:03 |
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| rburton | you get to lose your sanity to it | 19:04 |
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| nerdboy | i've seen doom on a pi... | 19:07 |
| * nerdboy always liked the double-barreled shotgun and the BFG | 19:08 | |
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| denix | darknighte: OpenMAX is a standard by Khronos - http://www.khronos.org/openmax/ | 19:29 |
| denix | OpenMAX IL is an integration layer - http://omxil.sourceforge.net/ | 19:30 |
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| denix | gst-openmax is a GStreamer plugin to talk to OpenMAX - http://freedesktop.org/wiki/GstOpenMAX/ | 19:30 |
| denix | all components are OpenSource, but hardware acceleration on TI platforms uses DSP and DSP codecs are usually commercial | 19:31 |
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| darknighte | denix: any idea why openmaxil would be marked "commercial"? | 19:36 |
| darknighte | seems like the interface library being lgplv2 would "isolate" the commercial plugin bits? | 19:39 |
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| denix | darknighte: ok, had to dig really deep... :) it's a cruft left from old COMMERCIAL_LICENSE global mechanism. originally, only proper commercial packages were marked, but then also packages that depend on those commercial ones were marked as well, so the "make world" would work... :) | 19:48 |
| denix | darknighte: and then global COMMERCIAL_LICENSE list was replaced with per-recipe LICENSE_FLAGS, so those commercial flags went into corresponding recipes, even those that aren't really commercial... | 19:49 |
| darknighte | hrmmm, so it sounds like I should be able to drop the commercial designation for those packages then? | 19:50 |
| darknighte | perhaps let me come at it from another direction. | 19:51 |
| denix | let me take it to the list... | 19:51 |
| darknighte | how does adding these flags enable "make world" to work? | 19:51 |
| denix | it would skip them, since they depend on real commercial packages | 19:52 |
| bryan | I built an image with the "read-only-rootfs" feature. However, my root filesystem is still read/write. Is there something else I need to do? | 19:52 |
| darknighte | denix: hmmm, that would only apply if you actually attach a commercial plugin though, correct? | 19:53 |
| darknighte | the dependency, I mean. | 19:53 |
| denix | huh? | 19:53 |
| fray | bryan, the read-only-rootfs makes the system work when you BOOT with a readonly rootfs.. | 19:53 |
| fray | if you still are booting w/ 'RW', or your fstab remounts / to 'rw'.. we're not going to stop it | 19:54 |
| darknighte | denix: trying to re-word | 19:54 |
| fray | be sure 'ro' is passed to the kernel, and make sure you arn't remounts / 'rw' somehow.. | 19:54 |
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| darknighte | openmaxil does not *always* depend on commercial packages. | 19:54 |
| fray | then rootfs is RO, and things are expected to work as the other filesystem elements are bind mounted to allow RW (via a tmpfs) in the correct places | 19:54 |
| bryan | I see. To actually boot it as read-only, do I just alter fstab, or does it need to be done elsewhere? | 19:54 |
| fray | start w/ your bootloader, pass 'ro' to the kernel | 19:55 |
| darknighte | denix: specifically, in my case, these are no commercial bits being plugged in | 19:55 |
| bryan | OK. How do I tell my bootloader to pass this to the kernel? | 19:56 |
| fray | which bootloader, which board, which kernel? | 19:56 |
| nerdboy | denix is good at the rewording/precise terminology thing | 19:57 |
| darknighte | denix: I'll send a note to the oe-core list asking about it. | 19:58 |
| bryan | U-boot, Gumstix DuOvero COM on a custom baseboard, Kernel is 3.6.0 | 19:58 |
| denix | darknighte: almost finish with the mail myself | 19:58 |
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| denix | darknighte: the fact that you don't pull those in is because so much has changed... | 19:58 |
| denix | nerdboy: heh, giving me a hard time? :) | 19:59 |
| darknighte | seems to be part of nerdboy's personality ;) | 19:59 |
| nerdboy | not particularly... | 19:59 |
| fray | it's a setenv, I just don't know which one | 19:59 |
| bryan | ok. | 20:00 |
| nerdboy | been schooled a couple times | 20:00 |
| fray | here we goo.. looks like "'bootargs" | 20:00 |
| fray | so try "print bootargs" | 20:00 |
| fray | then setenv bootargs <previous args> ro | 20:00 |
| fray | if that doesn't work, you'll haev to find a u-boot/gumstix expert.. (I'm neither) | 20:00 |
| denix | darknighte: ok, email is out, please chime in | 20:01 |
| darknighte | denix: thx. I will. | 20:01 |
| * darknighte waits patiently for email to arrive from list server | 20:02 | |
| nerdboy | sorry, denix no, DarkKnight duh... | 20:02 |
| bryan | Do you mean try it on the system? How does one get a command prompt for the bootloader? | 20:02 |
| darknighte | heh, I thought you might mean me nerdboy... | 20:03 |
| nerdboy | you're kidding, right? | 20:03 |
| fray | bryan, no idea.. I'd assume when you turn it on, the firmware drops into a shell where you confgiure the boot | 20:04 |
| denix | darknighte: who's DarkKnight and why is he using your personality? :) | 20:04 |
| fray | if not, I don't know what you hve to do to signal it.. you'll need to look at the uboot and gumstrix info for that | 20:04 |
| bryan | Ok. Thank you for the tips :-) | 20:04 |
| fray | no problem.. | 20:05 |
| darknighte | denix: my *other*, alter ego. | 20:05 |
| fray | 199 root rt 0 0 0 0 S 100.0 0.0 6:32.74 migration/38 | 20:05 |
| nerdboy | the racing one? | 20:05 |
| fray | anyone every seen a problem where the migration tasks take so much CPU time? | 20:05 |
| darknighte | yep. I only use it for special occasions! | 20:05 |
| fray | bug in ps maybe? | 20:05 |
| * DarkKnight is yet another yocto user and IRC idler | 20:05 | |
| denix | :) | 20:06 |
| DarkKnight | also I'm wondering why I get highlighted and "msged" ;) | 20:06 |
| darknighte | hah, I should have checked to see if there actually was another handle in use! | 20:06 |
| darknighte | nice name DarkKnight ! | 20:06 |
| nerdboy | tab complete and small type... | 20:06 |
| darknighte | no camel case here, bub! | 20:06 |
| DarkKnight | no problem | 20:06 |
| nerdboy | good | 20:07 |
| * nerdboy prfers underscores | 20:07 | |
| darknighte | so, I guess I'll go easy on nerdboy for calling me DarkKnight after all | 20:07 |
| denix | heh :) | 20:07 |
| denix | it feels like list serv is hosted on mars or even further... | 20:08 |
| * darknighte shudders at nerdboy's bad taste | 20:08 | |
| darknighte | denix: nj! | 20:08 |
| nerdboy | readability man | 20:09 |
| nerdboy | remember those missing probes and exploding ariane V's ? | 20:10 |
| * darknighte gives up waiting on denix "supossed" email and flips back to an editor | 20:10 | |
| nerdboy | they couldn't read the code... | 20:10 |
| nerdboy | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kYUrqdUyEpI | 20:11 |
| denix | darknighte: check your mailbox | 20:12 |
| nerdboy | think about that when you're writing code once in a while... | 20:12 |
| nerdboy | "boom" | 20:12 |
| darknighte | denix: ? I don't see it. | 20:15 |
| denix | mentor one? | 20:15 |
| darknighte | nerdboy: I agree that code readability is important. | 20:15 |
| denix | obfuscate, obfuscate! :) | 20:15 |
| darknighte | denix: hmm, strange. I see it in my work account, but not my personal one. | 20:16 |
| * darknighte shrugs | 20:16 | |
| denix | you shrug too much... | 20:17 |
| nerdboy | style is somewhat orthoganl | 20:17 |
| * darknighte shrugs | 20:19 | |
| * darknighte shrugs again | 20:19 | |
| nerdboy | it's something most people don't think about much, at least from what i can see... | 20:19 |
| darknighte | nerdboy: I read an article some time ago extolling the virtues of an automatically enforced coding standard for that reason. | 20:20 |
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| nerdboy | surprisingly few think about comments and other stuff, even in a "professional" setting | 20:21 |
| darknighte | YMMV, as always, but I have found that in large groups, it helps to have fairly uniform code for maintainability | 20:21 |
| nerdboy | stringent customers generally like tractability | 20:22 |
| khem | consistent styles help in two things - reviewers can concentrate on code instead of style which is a distraction | 20:22 |
| denix | Use_ALL_Styles_allTHEtime! | 20:22 |
| * nerdboy included | 20:22 | |
| khem | secondly you can write some post processing tools | 20:22 |
| khem | if styles are consistent | 20:22 |
| Crofton | gnu indent | 20:22 |
| khem | doesnt matter which one .. pick one | 20:22 |
| khem | is always my advise | 20:23 |
| Crofton | CamelCase | 20:23 |
| nerdboy | i'me in violent agreement with the "shared" style, workflow, etc | 20:23 |
| denix | mix of different styles is a style on its own - see above | 20:23 |
| nerdboy | just pick one and play nice together | 20:23 |
| nerdboy | then we all get beer and cookies | 20:23 |
| Crofton | for (loop_index_variable = 0; loop_index_variable < 10; loop_index_variable++) ..... | 20:24 |
| nerdboy | and some veggie stuff i suppose ;) | 20:24 |
| khem | I am agnostic to whatever it is | 20:24 |
| Crofton | I need to use that line sometime | 20:25 |
| nerdboy | the (loop_index_variable? or the beer and cookies? | 20:25 |
| khem | Crofton: #define post_increment "++" ;) | 20:26 |
| * nerdboy shrugs like darknighte | 20:26 | |
| nerdboy | i think most of my public examples are a mix of clean and brutal | 20:28 |
| Crofton | khem, epic | 20:28 |
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| ant_home | khem: I need some help wrt -march=mips32r2 | 22:13 |
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| nerdboy | did i just hear that right? | 22:16 |
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| nerdboy | climate change discussion in g+ hangouts? | 22:16 |
| nerdboy | *climate change impacts discussion | 22:17 |
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| khem | ant_home: ok | 23:28 |
| khem | dont ask to ask :) just ask | 23:29 |
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| khem | RP: I see that you left out http://git.openembedded.org/openembedded-core-contrib/commit/?h=kraj/gcc-4.9&id=cedeee72f8263e7397f8481501e0b516daae23aa | 23:36 |
| khem | from gcc-4.9 branch | 23:37 |
| khem | arent you seeing the issue ? | 23:37 |
| khem | on x86 ? | 23:37 |
| fray | RP said earlier there is some stuff in master-next that isn't merged yet.. | 23:40 |
| khem | ok | 23:41 |
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| khem | having said that I think we should enable sse2 as default for i586 tunes | 23:42 |
| khem | it doesnt make sense to target _very_ old chips | 23:42 |
| fray | not for i586... there are still a bunch of i586 based systems that don't have any sse or MMX for that matter | 23:42 |
| khem | as defaults | 23:42 |
| fray | here are branch new chips that don't have sse or MMX | 23:43 |
| khem | really | 23:43 |
| fray | Intel Quark, whats on the Galileo board.. | 23:43 |
| fray | it's effectively a 486 w/ 586 instructions.. | 23:43 |
| fray | target marketing is 32-bit micro controller.. | 23:43 |
| khem | oh pentium4 resurrected :) I wonder if division errata was fixed | 23:43 |
| fray | i686 can have MMX.. it's the ones above that that are sse2 I believe.. | 23:44 |
| fray | thats why 'core2' is currently the generic CPU of choice.. it's 'old' but has modern features.. | 23:44 |
| russelh | I have written a bitbake file for a library I would like to use, but I am having trouble getting it to work. Here is the file https://gist.github.com/russelhowe/1d8516953f6f46a4234e | 23:45 |
| khem | oh well then probably gstreamer is not a package for those uController either | 23:45 |
| fray | I'm guessing thats not so much a problem.. ;) | 23:46 |
| fray | I expect most usages are going to be IoT devices, embedded micro controllers, data aquisition, etc... | 23:46 |
| khem | russelh: whats the issue ? seems nice little recipe | 23:46 |
| khem | fray: yes I see | 23:46 |
| russelh | It produces the packages bfl-dev and bfl-dbg, but no package named bfl. This means I can DEPEND on it in another bitbake file, but when it comes time to install, the dependency on bfl is not satisfied. | 23:46 |
| sgw_ | fray: don't count out video displays, they might be in the mix | 23:47 |
| khem | russelh: does it generate a .so.X | 23:47 |
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| khem | if not may be you have to ALLOW_EMPTY_${PN} = "1" | 23:47 |
| russelh | khem: I thought it did, it does when I build it outside bitbake, let me check | 23:49 |
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| russelh | khem: yes, it does, in /usr/lib | 23:58 |
| khem | whats the name of library ? | 23:58 |
| russelh | The library is liborocos-bfl.so | 23:58 |
| khem | yeah thats the problem | 23:58 |
| * nerdboy busting a spleen | 23:58 | |
| nerdboy | again... | 23:59 |
| khem | .so is shoveled into -dev | 23:59 |
| khem | by default | 23:59 |
| khem | since its thought to be a symlink or linker stub/script | 23:59 |
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