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| embed | Hi yocto.. | 06:49 |
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| embed | Hi yocto...I am trying to interface camera with beaglebone with support of mplayer but i am getting paste bin error how to rectify this error http://pastebin.com/KigCzmmW any one can help to resolve this. | 06:55 |
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| mckoan | good morning | 07:17 |
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| andyj25 | Hi everyone | 07:27 |
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| andyj25 | I'm getting this error when I build a custom image: | 07:31 |
| andyj25 | arm-poky-linux-gnueabi-ld: unrecognized option '-Wl,-O1' | 07:31 |
| andyj25 | anybody have an idea about where that originates? | 07:31 |
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| embed | Hi please any one help me to solve this camera issue. | 07:38 |
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| ant_work | andyj25: which recipe is failing? What was it building? This is an option for CC (gcc) to be passed to the linker LD | 07:49 |
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| andyj25 | Hi ant_work. I made my own layer, and a recipe for a very simple image. | 07:51 |
| andyj25 | When i do bitbake myimage, it fails during do_compile() saying "unrecognized option '-Wl,-O1'" | 07:52 |
| andyj25 | is it something to do with LDFLAGS? | 07:52 |
| ant_work | yes | 07:52 |
| andyj25 | I think the "-Wl, -O1" options come from poky/meta/conf/bitbake.conf | 07:53 |
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| andyj25 | should i be trying to overwrite that from my image recipe file? | 07:53 |
| ant_work | gcc -Wl,foo,bar -> ld foo bar | 07:53 |
| ant_work | you must have changed LDFLAGS or EXTRA_OEMAKE | 07:54 |
| ant_work | in one recipe | 07:55 |
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| ant_work | which one is failing? the image itself does not compile anything | 07:55 |
| andyj25 | the image recipe builds a bunch of libraries (which succeed) then it tries to build another recipe which I wrote | 07:57 |
| andyj25 | that recipe is PJSIP | 07:57 |
| andyj25 | and that's where it fails compiling | 07:57 |
| andyj25 | I haven't written an LDFLAGS or EXTRA_OEMAKE in that recipe file | 07:59 |
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| ant_work | please check the build logs and verify CFLAGS and LDFLAGS | 07:59 |
| ant_work | of that recipe | 08:00 |
| andyj25 | OK. one moment. | 08:00 |
| andyj25 | temp/log.do_compile.xxxx | 08:00 |
| andyj25 | that one right? | 08:00 |
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| andyj25 | my temp/run.do_compile says ---> export TARGET_LDFLAGS="-Wl,-O1 -Wl,--hash-style=gnu -Wl,--as-needed" | 08:03 |
| andyj25 | and also ---> export LDFLAGS="-Wl,-O1 -Wl,--hash-style=gnu -Wl,--as-needed" | 08:04 |
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| ant_work | what is LD? | 08:06 |
| ant_work | this would only work if you use gcc for linking | 08:07 |
| ant_work | I suspect you should verify the Makefile | 08:08 |
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| ant_work | andyj25: I've never built this source. Seems it was an oe-classic recipe | 08:10 |
| ant_work | http://tinyurl.com/qc3x2zd | 08:10 |
| andyj25 | LD is this ---> LD="arm-poky-linux-gnueabi-ld --sysroot=/home/andrew/yocto-imx6/build/tmp/sysroots/imx6qsabresd" | 08:12 |
| andyj25 | so the Makefile for the source code I'm compiling can also modify LDFLAGS? | 08:12 |
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| andyj25 | Thanks for the pointer to that sflphone recipe.. i'm looking into it for clues | 08:17 |
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| ant_work | andyj25: sorry, phone call | 08:19 |
| ant_work | you should normally use the default flags passed by OE/Yocto toolchain | 08:19 |
| ant_work | some sourcess though need to be patched or you can adjust in the recipe i.e. with EXTRA_OEMAKE | 08:20 |
| andyj25 | could it be possible that the default flags don't work with that cross-compiler? | 08:21 |
| andyj25 | or do you think the defaults are being overwritten by something | 08:21 |
| ant_work | please check the logs of another recipe, you'll see | 08:21 |
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| andyj25 | alright. thanks for the tips. | 08:28 |
| andyj25 | so you mean.. i should compile another recipe which works | 08:28 |
| andyj25 | and then check its logs? | 08:28 |
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| ant_work | yes, as general case every recipe should use the pre-defined ${CC} ${CFLAGS} ${LDFLAGS} | 08:33 |
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| bluelightning | morning all | 08:36 |
| mckoan | hi bluelightning, all | 08:36 |
| bluelightning | hi mckoan | 08:36 |
| ant_work | gm bluelightning | 08:36 |
| bluelightning | hi ant_work | 08:37 |
| ant_work | andyj25: the story is a bit long, per default we pass '-e' to make | 08:41 |
| ant_work | "Give variables taken from the environment precedence over variables from makefiles" | 08:41 |
| ant_work | you could try redefining the full EXTRA_OEMAKE | 08:42 |
| andyj25 | ohh.. so Yocto passes "-e" by default? | 08:43 |
| ant_work | yes, check bitbake.conf | 08:43 |
| ant_work | but there are exceptions, I can't find a better documents offhand | 08:44 |
| ant_work | http://lists.openembedded.org/pipermail/openembedded-devel/2011-May/078184.html | 08:44 |
| ant_work | check this old thread pls | 08:44 |
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| andyj25 | ok thanks : ) | 08:52 |
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| embed | Hi please any one help me to solve this camera issue. | 08:53 |
| embed | Hi yocto...I am trying to interface camera with beaglebone with support of mplayer but i am getting paste bin error how to rectify this error http://pastebin.com/KigCzmmW any one can help to resolve this. | 08:54 |
| embed | Hi please any one help me to solve this camera issue. | 08:54 |
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| -YoctoAutoBuilder- build #180 of nightly-fsl-ppc-lsb is complete: Success [build successful] Build details are at http://autobuilder.yoctoproject.org/main/builders/nightly-fsl-ppc-lsb/builds/180 | 09:27 | |
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| TheLost | Hi all =) | 09:32 |
| andyj25 | ant_work, I found a thread from the mailing list which describes exactly the problem i'm getting | 09:41 |
| andyj25 | https://lists.yoctoproject.org/pipermail/yocto/2013-January/011581.html | 09:41 |
| andyj25 | According to kernel.bbclass, setting EXTRA_OEMAKE = "" is one way to get rid of the "-e" option, but that didn't work for me | 09:42 |
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| ant_work | andyj25: is that source? https://github.com/chakrit/pjsip | 09:57 |
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| andyj25 | that link is a fork | 09:59 |
| andyj25 | i'm using the official source code | 10:00 |
| ant_work | ok, it is an auto-tooled recipe | 10:00 |
| andyj25 | but anyway, it looks similar to that | 10:00 |
| ant_work | this implies EXTRA_OEMAKE = "" | 10:00 |
| ant_work | but that's not th epoint here | 10:00 |
| ant_work | the recipe offers an hook, see user.mak.sample | 10:01 |
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| ant_work | you can probably patch that | 10:07 |
| ant_work | you have to force $(CC) $(LDFLAGS) | 10:07 |
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| andyj25 | hmm.. sorry but i don't quite understand | 10:30 |
| andyj25 | does that mean i should make a user.mak file? | 10:30 |
| andyj25 | in the pjsip source? | 10:30 |
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| motzer_ | hey guys | 11:09 |
| motzer_ | I've gtot another question. Should be really easy for you - if I want to clean up be deploay dir completely without touching any sources or fetched/compiled data while the build process, which bitbake -c clean command can I use to get all of it together | 11:11 |
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| motzer_ | by now I just removed my /tmp dir to get back to a clean environment | 11:13 |
| motzer_ | is it better to use a bitbake cmd ? | 11:13 |
| bluelightning | depends | 11:17 |
| bluelightning | what's your reason for wanting to do the cleaning? | 11:17 |
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| motzer_ | just to delete all images which just were tests while the developing process, I allways add a package or a recipe and test it if it works I go on. So just not to mix images up because de date code is no really very clearly represented | 11:27 |
| motzer_ | no special reason just for the overview =) | 11:27 |
| RP | JaMa: is that a record low for failed builds in world? | 11:35 |
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| ant_work | andyj25: sorry but I cannot check the sources right now (nor the recipe you're building ;). You have to investigate the direct invocation to LD. Possible test: 1) set CFLAGS += LDFLAGS and LDFLAGS="" in the recipe. This way LD should not protest. 2) Fix the sources, probably one Makefile 3) patch the autoconfig files to add LDFLAGS to CFLAGS like 1) | 11:41 |
| ant_work | andyj25: there are som eold recipes for oe-classic around, check how they did | 11:42 |
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| andyj25 | ok | 11:44 |
| andyj25 | thanks for all the tips! | 11:44 |
| ant_work | try patching the user.mak in that way at first | 11:45 |
| ant_work | and verify the recipe inherits autotools | 11:45 |
| ant_work | btw, this seems rather complicated recipe, with different flags for lib and apps | 11:46 |
| ant_work | it is not hello-world ;)ù | 11:46 |
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| bluelightning | motzer_: generally you can just delete the old images, there isn't a command to delete them on demand | 12:03 |
| bluelightning | motzer_: however you can set RM_OLD_IMAGE = "1" in which case old images will be deleted automatically each time a new one is created | 12:03 |
| JaMa | RP: no, 2014-05-15 was better :) | 12:05 |
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| RP | JaMa: ah, true :). Its getting close again at least | 12:09 |
| JaMa | RP: and abiword + libssh were blacklisted because of libgrcypt upgrade since then http://www.openembedded.org/wiki/Bitbake_World_Status#Failed_tasks_2014-05-15 | 12:09 |
| ant_work | JaMa: hi. Unfair of you doubling the klibc-utils warning checking both 2.0.3 and 2.0.4 :p | 12:09 |
| JaMa | RP: thanks for all the patches you've sent | 12:09 |
| RP | JaMa: np, its good to see its helped a bit :) | 12:10 |
| JaMa | ant_work: you'll get double kudos if you fix it :) | 12:10 |
| RP | JaMa: floating dependencies next I guess... | 12:10 |
| * RP keeps fixing the oe-core ones he sees in local builds | 12:10 | |
| JaMa | RP: I've included all recipes reported by insane_qa to next test-dependencies build to see why we're seeing different results from these 2 checks | 12:11 |
| ant_work | RP: I'm scared by that /bin/bash issue revealed by Robert's testing | 12:11 |
| RP | ant_work: Sadly, I'm not, I've known we've had some issues there for a while. Its why bugs were opened and people are looking at it | 12:11 |
| ant_work | he is using bash on his Ubuntu 12.04 afais | 12:11 |
| JaMa | RP: the sad part is that we're both quite busy with other patches, it would be great to get more fixes from people actually using these recipes on target | 12:12 |
| ant_work | RP: xz uses a posix-shell.m4 | 12:12 |
| RP | JaMa: yes, that is sad and frustrating | 12:12 |
| RP | ant_work: I know I had to do some nasty things with libtool to resolve the problems there | 12:13 |
| JaMa | and I'm still a bit concerned about that foreign patch introducing new COPYING files with GPLv3 :/ | 12:13 |
| RP | (it coded into the script whether /bin/sh handled bashisms or not) | 12:14 |
| ant_work | I've read about a checkbashism tool | 12:14 |
| JaMa | but I've finally fixed all our internal components to at least not fail in do_configure | 12:14 |
| ant_work | maybe we could try to sanitize *some* scripts | 12:14 |
| RP | JaMa: in some ways it is better to expose this problem and deal with it rather than hiding it though... | 12:15 |
| RP | JaMa: you can't guarantee software would always be built by our hacked automake | 12:15 |
| JaMa | yes, but sometimes it's exposed in "hidden" way :) | 12:15 |
| RP | JaMa: its far from perfect, I agree | 12:15 |
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| ant_work | JaMa: bluelightning: pls push klibc 2.0.4 so I can send the fix on top of it | 12:18 |
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| JaMa | ant_work: rebase your change on top of master-next | 12:19 |
| ant_work | mabe later today I'll send the quick fix then I'll see if a refactoring is possible | 12:19 |
| JaMa | ant_work: I plan to push it after next build, if you send patch on top of it I'll include it as well | 12:19 |
| ant_work | the split klibc / klibc-utils is OE specific. It is a single package in debian | 12:19 |
| ant_work | (we add klcc-cross and the -static utils) | 12:20 |
| TRoGd0R | I have been bitbakin qt 5.2.1 in my build without any issue until I added qtquickcontrols-qmlplugins. Now I get this error: * opkg_install_cmd: Cannot install package qtquickcontrols-qmlplugins. Is there a known issue with this? Can someone point me to a patch I can apply? Thanks! | 12:20 |
| ant_work | JaMa: ok | 12:20 |
| JaMa | TRoGd0R: check which packages were created by qtquickcontrols | 12:21 |
| TRoGd0R | How do I do that? | 12:21 |
| JaMa | TRoGd0R: it could be empty (not created) with your qtbase's PACKAGECONFIG | 12:21 |
| TRoGd0R | Sorry I am new to this | 12:21 |
| JaMa | easiest would be find tmp-eglibc/deploy/ipk -name \*quickc\* | 12:22 |
| JaMa | more correct would be to check qtquickcontrols WORKDIR packages-split directory | 12:23 |
| ant_work | RP: about the tar packages, note there are layers carrying around "deltask do_package_write_tar" | 12:23 |
| ant_work | (maybe just meta-initramfs hopefully) | 12:23 |
| RP | ant_work: it shouldn't cause any harm even if we do delete it | 12:25 |
| ant_work | and I was just hit by the changes to insane.bbclass adding do_package_qa... ;) | 12:26 |
| ant_work | JaMa: I'll send the possible fix for the kexecboot kernel together ^^ | 12:27 |
| RP | ant_work: the joys of maintainership! ;-) | 12:27 |
| RP | ant_work: the improvements to dependency validation should make that worthwhile | 12:27 |
| ant_work | it would be easy if it were possible to grep on *all* layers ;) | 12:27 |
| bluelightning | ant_work: if you want to add some kind of full-text-indexing + search to the layer index, please do ;) | 12:29 |
| ant_work | I can imagine it's mysql structure ;) | 12:30 |
| bluelightning | the app uses django, but you'd have to add some kind of full-text-indexing engine to it | 12:32 |
| bluelightning | of which there are many off-the-shelf solutions | 12:32 |
| TRoGd0R | JaMa: http://pastebin.com/79kLZ51Z | 12:32 |
| embed | Hi yocto...I am trying to interface camera with beaglebone with support of mplayer but i am getting paste bin error how to rectify this error http://pastebin.com/KigCzmmW any one can help to resolve this. | 12:33 |
| embed | Hi please any one help me to solve this camera issue. | 12:33 |
| TRoGd0R | It took awhile becuase I searched the entire build directory, I didn't have a tmp-eglibc directory | 12:33 |
| bluelightning | embed: this isn't really the forum for such problems I'm afraid; you should try asking somewhere related to the software you are having problems with (mplayer?) | 12:34 |
| ant_work | bluelightning: I mean you should have every file stored as text in a field, then you can perform string search on it | 12:35 |
| ant_work | bluelightning: I guess layers-index just keeps th elinks | 12:35 |
| bluelightning | ant_work: that's pretty slow to search though, you really need a proper index | 12:36 |
| bluelightning | ant_work: that's correct | 12:36 |
| ant_work | bluelightning: there are powerful functions | 12:36 |
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| ant_work | JaMa: more about /linux-yocto-tiny-kexecboot_3.10.bb, do_package_qa | 12:45 |
| ant_work | the exposed task reveals that qemux86 is trying to use 3.14 (preferred) kernel while building a 3.10 recipe | 12:46 |
| ant_work | It could be interesting to understand why before silencing the QA | 12:46 |
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| -YoctoAutoBuilder- build #177 of nightly-fsl-ppc is complete: Success [build successful] Build details are at http://autobuilder.yoctoproject.org/main/builders/nightly-fsl-ppc/builds/177 | 13:04 | |
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| JaMa | TRoGd0R: you probably don't have icu enabled in qtbase | 13:09 |
| TRoGd0R | I do I enable that? | 13:10 |
| TRoGd0R | All I did was to add qtquickcontrols-qmlplugins to my IMAGE_INSTALL_append in local.conf | 13:11 |
| TRoGd0R | I didn't know there was another step :) | 13:11 |
| TRoGd0R | So I just went into my qtbase_5.2.1.bbappend file and I see that I have this line DEPENDS += "icu libgles-omap3" | 13:13 |
| JaMa | that isn't correct, icu should be enabled in PACKAGECONFIG | 13:15 |
| JaMa | read meta-qt5 wiki and qtbase.inc | 13:15 |
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| LocutusOfBorg1 | Hi, does anybody know how to make my mouse work in yocto? | 13:22 |
| LocutusOfBorg1 | [ 1027.105] (WW) Warning, couldn't open module evdev | 13:22 |
| LocutusOfBorg1 | [ 1027.105] (II) UnloadModule: "evdev" | 13:23 |
| LocutusOfBorg1 | [ 1027.105] (II) Unloading evdev | 13:23 |
| LocutusOfBorg1 | [ 1027.105] (EE) Failed to load module "evdev" (module does not exist, 0) | 13:23 |
| LocutusOfBorg1 | [ 1027.105] (EE) No input driver matching `evdev' | 13:23 |
| LocutusOfBorg1 | the architecture is armhf | 13:23 |
| TRoGd0R | I see there is a line like this in qtbase.inc PACKAGECONFIG[icu] = "-icu,-no-icu,icu" and there is a comment about how qtwebkit needs icu but I am not seeing how I should do anything different than what I am doing. Sorry for my n00bishness | 13:23 |
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| ndec | TRoGd0R: you need PACKAGECONFIG_append = " icu" in your .bbappen | 13:25 |
| ndec | .bbappend | 13:25 |
| JaMa | LocutusOfBorg1: install xf86-input-evdev | 13:25 |
| TRoGd0R | OK cool let me try that, thanks! | 13:26 |
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| LocutusOfBorg1 | thanks jackmitchell | 13:34 |
| LocutusOfBorg1 | thanks JaMa | 13:34 |
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| TheLost | I’m preparing Yocto build for a custom AM335x Texas Instruments board, what do I have to do with mux.h and pinmux.h from the PinMux utility? | 14:26 |
| TheLost | I changed mux.h in kernel’s arch/arm/mach-omap/ | 14:26 |
| TheLost | But i don’t understand how/where to include the pinmux.h | 14:26 |
| TheLost | any suggestion? | 14:26 |
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| motzer_ | bluelightning: thanks good information =) | 14:32 |
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| TRoGd0R | I updated my qtbase_5.2.1.bbappend and removed icu from DEPENDS and added it to PACKAGECONFIG_append. I am still getting the same error, here is the build output, any other ideas? http://pastebin.com/2P6iLNe3 | 14:33 |
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| ant_work | zeddii: so linux-yocto-dev is at 3.16-rc6 | 14:47 |
| kroon | TRoGd0R, make sure you have PACKAGECONFIG[accessibility] enabled | 14:49 |
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| zeddii | ant_work. wow. I pushed that about 5 mins ago! | 14:50 |
| WarheadsSE | Hey all. Having trouble locating the problem: kernel modules aren't getting stripped. (Dora) | 14:51 |
| zeddii | I'm testing yaffs2 now. I didn't have it in my first build cycles, I spent a lot of time fighting with lttng. | 14:51 |
| * zeddii finishes up his pull request | 14:51 | |
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| TRoGd0R | kroon: How do I do that? | 14:53 |
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| kroon | TRoGd0R, PACKAGECONFIG_append = "accessibility" in the .bbappend. Or you can do PACKAGECONFIG_append_pn-qtbase = "accessibility" in your distro.conf | 14:55 |
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| kroon | _append = " accessibility", with the prepended blank space, just to be sure.. | 14:56 |
| TRoGd0R | Cool I just updated to this PACKAGECONFIG_append = " icu accessibility" | 14:58 |
| TRoGd0R | should that work? | 14:58 |
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| ant_work | zeddii: some patches have been hit by /drivers/video -> drivers/video/fbdev | 14:59 |
| ndec | TRoGd0R: yes | 14:59 |
| TRoGd0R | ok it's building now | 14:59 |
| kroon | TRoGd0R, icu is in there by default, but otherwise yes | 14:59 |
| kroon | oh, its not | 15:01 |
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| lpapp | hello, is Phil Blundell lurking here ? | 15:02 |
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| lpapp | http://cgit.openembedded.org/openembedded-core/commit/?id=613d0275a59be9154c2a2cdc101bd3e2c79a6d44 -> I wonder why the sticky bit was deemed useful in busybox a bit more than four years ago? | 15:03 |
| lpapp | (isn't it a kind core security hole?) | 15:04 |
| lpapp | kinda* | 15:04 |
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| JaMa | RP: I'm sorry to see that the NEEDINFO task about multi-machines builds fall again on you, but on the other hand I'm glad that you'll bring other view on this (so that official Yocto documentation doesn't just copy how I do multi-machine build) | 15:23 |
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| RP | JaMa: Its a case of "someone" needing to put info together and you/I appear to be the only people who can :/ | 15:38 |
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| volker- | can someone check if their /build/downloads/ folder also contains a file called "*.done" | 16:56 |
| volker- | (ls /build/downloads/\*.done | 16:56 |
| kergoth | not here | 16:57 |
| bluelightning | nor here | 16:57 |
| volker- | strange, all my downloadfolders have it | 16:57 |
| volker- | maybe because I use SRC_URI = "file://*" a couple of times | 16:58 |
| volker- | and rsync seems to have problems with it when trying to move the download folders to the download mirror | 17:00 |
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| lpapp | is there a way on the generated target image after flashing to figure out whether a binary is stripped? Busybox does not seem to have the "file" command available. | 17:51 |
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| rburton | use binutils to determine if the binary has debug sections? | 17:53 |
| rburton | or look at the size | 17:53 |
| rburton | or install file | 17:53 |
| maxtothemax | track down the binary on your build system and look at it there | 17:53 |
| nerdboy | should be a function of config settings/packaging in the build... | 17:53 |
| lpapp | install file is not an option without development environment | 17:53 |
| lpapp | size does not tell me much | 17:53 |
| nerdboy | are you seeing something unexpected? | 17:53 |
| lpapp | not sure what binutils means in this context. | 17:53 |
| nerdboy | nm or readelf maybe? | 17:54 |
| nerdboy | er, scanelf? | 17:54 |
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| lpapp | those are not available, at least on the core-image-minimal | 17:56 |
| maxtothemax | lpapp, you will not be able to do this from within the image you create | 17:56 |
| nerdboy | no access to package feed? | 17:57 |
| maxtothemax | you need to look at the binaries on the machine you used to create the image | 17:57 |
| lpapp | ok, thanks (sad). | 17:57 |
| maxtothemax | does that make sense? | 17:57 |
| lpapp | well, sorta. I will file a feature request against busybox to create a file applet ;-) | 17:57 |
| nerdboy | or manually copy the binutils package and install it... | 17:57 |
| maxtothemax | how did you get this core-image-minimal anyway? did you build it yourself or download it from somewhere | 17:58 |
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| joranb | I dont understand how to make a simple gui program in yoctoproject. I have looked at lots of docs and it seems heavily focused on the architecture of a program. | 18:01 |
| joranb | but I havent been able to find any resources that completly detail creating a custom application | 18:02 |
| maxtothemax | do you have an existing GUI program and you want to make a recipe for it so you can put it on images? | 18:02 |
| maxtothemax | or are you trying to make a GUI front end for yocto? | 18:02 |
| joranb | (really Im interested in a simple charting engine (that streams data in) (from a usb connector)) | 18:02 |
| joranb | no Im trying to create basically a hello world type application just to learn about it | 18:03 |
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| maxtothemax | so yocto is not really a way to create new programs, it's a way to put lots of existing programs together | 18:04 |
| joranb | Im really familliar with python , fairly proficient with c/c++ , marginally proficient with Java ... but I just dont really understand how to make a simple yoctoproject gui | 18:04 |
| joranb | by programs you mean "recipes"? | 18:05 |
| joranb | or actual programs? that the recipes tell to execute? | 18:05 |
| maxtothemax | yeah, actual programs | 18:05 |
| lpapp | maxtothemax: I am just the user of the image. I honestly think busybox ougtha have the "file" applet, anyhow. | 18:06 |
| joranb | so Ive found plenty of tutorials that show writing a simple "helloworld.cpp" and then executing it (since its essntially a stripped down linux from what I can tell) | 18:06 |
| maxtothemax | lpapp, I doubt they'll put one in, but what you can do is boot up your image, copy the file you're interested in onto a flash drive or do a network copy or something, and then look at it on a more full-featured Linux OS | 18:07 |
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| lpapp | maxtothemax: I doubt they would not put one in, especially configurably. | 18:07 |
| maxtothemax | lpapp, or if you have a copy of your image on a Linux machine, you can mount it with loopback and look at the files that way | 18:08 |
| maxtothemax | joranb, yocto is designed to create a complete Linux OS with a custom loadout of preinstalled programs on it | 18:09 |
| maxtothemax | joranb, you know how some routers have Linux operating systems on them? | 18:09 |
| maxtothemax | a lot of those operating systems were generated using Yocto | 18:09 |
| joranb | yes | 18:10 |
| maxtothemax | and when a firmware update for that router comes out, the replacement operating system was also generated with yocto | 18:10 |
| maxtothemax | that's sort of what it's for | 18:10 |
| joranb | ok ... so gumstix pepper board is what Im developing for ... I would likely just put my program execution into the ~/.bashrc or something | 18:11 |
| maxtothemax | joranb, now we're talking :) | 18:11 |
| maxtothemax | here's what I would suggest | 18:11 |
| maxtothemax | install a yocto image on your gumstix | 18:11 |
| joranb | but I dont understand what graphics libraries I can use (ie wx,qt,etc) | 18:12 |
| joranb | uh huh I can manage that much Im sure ;P | 18:12 |
| maxtothemax | then develop your program as you normally would, using your PC for testing of your program | 18:12 |
| maxtothemax | finally, write a yocto recipe for your program | 18:13 |
| maxtothemax | and generate a new yocto image that includes your program | 18:13 |
| maxtothemax | as for graphics libraries | 18:13 |
| maxtothemax | I know we have recipes for GTK | 18:13 |
| joranb | ahhh | 18:13 |
| joranb | perfect | 18:13 |
| maxtothemax | we might also have recipes for WX and QT | 18:13 |
| joranb | that makes sense then :) | 18:13 |
| joranb | ok I think I get it now ... maybe ... | 18:14 |
| joranb | I guess ill try this weekend and see how far I get | 18:14 |
| maxtothemax | oe-core is all the recipes that are included with yocto: https://github.com/openembedded/oe-core | 18:14 |
| joranb | I'll likely be back with more specific questions this weekend | 18:14 |
| joranb | ahh that helps alot I think | 18:14 |
| maxtothemax | but there are lot's more | 18:14 |
| maxtothemax | look in metal-oe, it's a huge library of extra recipes: https://github.com/openembedded/meta-oe | 18:15 |
| maxtothemax | you can add the meta-oe layer to your bblayers.conf, and you'll be able to use whatever of those extra recipes you want | 18:15 |
| joranb | I will definately do that | 18:15 |
| joranb | It makes more sense now | 18:15 |
| joranb | that you explained some stuff | 18:15 |
| joranb | I was just more confused by than anything by the getting started guides | 18:16 |
| maxtothemax | yocto is kind of unique, it took me a couple of days before I understood what it was and what it was for | 18:16 |
| joranb | I think I get it now ... my program is just to stream values from a usb tty and plot them (animated) and show the latest value at the top ... and thats all its supposed to do (really thats all the whole device is supposed to do) | 18:18 |
| joranb | which is really simple ... but the yocto ecosystem is the hardest part ... | 18:18 |
| maxtothemax | and if you want to generate a little mini-OS that will start up your program at boot time and do nothing else, yocto is perfect | 18:18 |
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| joranb | thats exactly what I want to do ... I have done it in android on touchrevolution , but I was interested to try out yocto and gumstix | 18:19 |
| maxtothemax | assuming you have a PC with Linux on it, you should develop your program on that and then make a yocto recipe for it to get it on your gumstix | 18:19 |
| joranb | got It ... I think | 18:19 |
| joranb | I will make a super simple ui this weekend and let you know ... or come back with more specific how do i type questions :P | 18:20 |
| kergoth | maxtothemax: it kind of depends on what your goals are. yocto is actually better for maintaining your image for your device long term. if all you're doing is something extremely light, e.g. board bringup or just one thing to run on the target, buildroot is faster and lighter. but yocto makes it easy to maintain your image and packages for the long term, and to maintain a linux distribution for embedded | 18:20 |
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| joranb | Thanks alot for the help ... I think I understand better what yocto is now :) | 18:22 |
| joranb | @kergoth never heard of buildroot , just googled it ... I'll have to look into it further | 18:23 |
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| joranb | how hard is it to build an image for gumstix with it? | 18:24 |
| kergoth | there's no guarantee it supports gumstix out of the box at all. nearly every device has its own kernel and patches and configuration. any tool targeting embedded devices needs explicit support for whatever it is, generally | 18:25 |
| joranb | meh ok ... well I know I can get a gumstix layer for yocto definately (so I guess I'll stick with that for now... maybe when I have a better handle on these builds I'll revisit buildroot) | 18:29 |
| joranb | thanks though | 18:29 |
| joranb | I'll file that bookmark away for later examination | 18:29 |
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| kergoth | rburton: did you ever look back at the automatic .debug for FILES_${PN}-dbg bits that you hacked together? | 18:44 |
| WarheadsSE | Anyone have thoughts on why my kernel modules are not being stripped? | 18:46 |
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| kergoth | ah, there's the contrib branch | 18:48 |
| kroon | WarheadsSE, none of my kernel modules in FC20 are stripped | 18:50 |
| kroon | WarheadsSE, are kernel modules allowed to be ? | 18:50 |
| kergoth | they can be stripped, but it has to be done more carefully than the strip of regular binaries | 18:51 |
| kergoth | afaik it should be done automatically int he build process, not sure why yours wouldn't be | 18:52 |
| kroon | by "not stripped", I mean at least that what "file" says :) | 18:53 |
| kergoth | you can't strip all symbols, they're needed to load the module. but iirc debug info and whatnot can be | 18:53 |
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| rburton | kergoth: sadly not | 18:56 |
| kergoth | would love to see that branch get merged :) definitely nicer than hardcoding the list, given it already knows about the paths | 19:00 |
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| rburton | kergoth: feel free to finish it ;) | 19:00 |
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| fray_ | 'er.. Linux rant of the day.. but it may affect us: | 19:12 |
| fray_ | http://marc.info/?l=linux-kernel&m=140622764926666&w=2 | 19:12 |
| fray_ | basically he says gcc-4.9.0 is broken when compiling the kernel.. :P | 19:12 |
| kergoth | yikes | 19:18 |
| fray_ | yup.. pretty much | 19:20 |
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| * zeddii is already watching it, as are a lot of us. it'll get worked out :P | 19:35 | |
| * zeddii finishes pushing 3.16 support and gcc 4.9 .. right in the death zone ;) | 19:35 | |
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| WarheadsSE | kroon: kergoth yeah | 19:55 |
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| mranostay | hi kergoth | 20:09 |
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