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| iwamatsu | Hi | 05:24 |
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| iwamatsu | Can we use the variable for substitution to _remove of the variable? | 05:24 |
| iwamatsu | For example, the following works. | 05:24 |
| iwamatsu | FOO = "aaa bbb ccc ddd" | 05:24 |
| iwamatsu | FOO_remove = "bbb" | 05:24 |
| iwamatsu | FOO is "aaa ccc ddd" | 05:25 |
| iwamatsu | However, the next does not work. | 05:25 |
| iwamatsu | FOO = "aaa bbb ccc ddd" | 05:25 |
| iwamatsu | BAR = "bbb" | 05:25 |
| iwamatsu | FOO_remove = "${BAR}" | 05:25 |
| iwamatsu | FOO is "aaa bbb ccc ddd" | 05:25 |
| iwamatsu | Is this specifications　of bitbake? | 05:26 |
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| ndec | iwamatsu: i think this has been reported here before. i don't remember the outcome, but i would tend to believe this is a bug. have you checked if there is a bug for that already? | 06:43 |
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| iwamatsu | ndec: Hi! I just checked. | 06:55 |
| iwamatsu | The same problem had been registered as # 6624. | 06:56 |
| iwamatsu | thanks! | 06:56 |
| ndec | iwamatsu: ok. good... | 06:57 |
| iwamatsu | ndec: I think too that this is bug.... | 06:58 |
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| mckoan | good morning | 07:23 |
| kanupatar | mckoan: gm | 07:23 |
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| bluelightning | morning all | 07:28 |
| tanamo | Hello all, I was just wondering why there's no /usr/lib32 folder created when I built an image with multilib support? I was expecting it to create a /usr/lib32 folder with 32-bit libraries but what happened is /usr/lib contains 32-bit libraries and /usr/lib64 for 64-bit ones. | 07:30 |
| redengin | is there a guide on the clean targets? or am I better off just copying over the downloads and rebuilding from scratch? | 07:46 |
| LetoThe2nd | redengin: you can/should have a shared downloads directory anyways, and maybe also a shared sstate | 07:48 |
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| LetoThe2nd | then you can basically just rm the build dir and restart :) | 07:49 |
| redengin | LetoThe2nd, so I shouldn't look for a magic clean command? | 07:49 |
| redengin | btw, I'm creating my own layers, so I don't trust sstate | 07:50 |
| LetoThe2nd | redengin: i don't know if there's some magic available, but sstate usually should be fine sharing, even with layer changes. | 07:51 |
| redengin | LetoThe2nd, can I trust "bitbake -c cleanall recipe" to update sstate? | 07:52 |
| redengin | it doesn't seem to work inside a project | 07:52 |
| LetoThe2nd | redengin: i personally don#t know. | 07:52 |
| redengin | guess I'll go with the flow and just create new projects once I get it to work once inside a project | 07:54 |
| redengin | seems like a lot of wasted cycles recreating the build toolchain each time though | 07:55 |
| ndec | redengin: sharing downloads and sstate-cache folder is typically the solution to avoid wasting cycles. have you faced any issues with those? | 07:59 |
| redengin | I've not see any issues sharing downloads, I'll start reusing sstate now | 08:03 |
| redengin | at that point though, could I just remove the whole project's tmp? | 08:05 |
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| jmleo | Hi | 08:19 |
| jmleo | In meta/recipes-multimedia/gstreamer/gstreamer1.0-plugins-bad.inc the EXTRA_OECONF is set | 08:19 |
| jmleo | and disables rtmp (--disable-rtmp) | 08:19 |
| jmleo | I owuld like to enable it from a custom recipe in my meta, but I don't know how | 08:20 |
| redengin | but you just want to enable that one without resetting the whole variable? | 08:22 |
| jmleo | yes | 08:22 |
| redengin | have you tried EXTRA_OECONF_append = "--enable-rtmp"? | 08:23 |
| jmleo | then, EXTRA_OECONF will have --disable-rtmp and at the bottom --enable-rtmp | 08:23 |
| jmleo | I don't know if this is safe | 08:24 |
| bluelightning | ideally that would be made into a PACKAGECONFIG and then that would be easier to override | 08:24 |
| ndec | EXTRA_OECONF_remove = "--disable-rtmp" , maybe? | 08:24 |
| bluelightning | that should do as a workaround for the time being yes | 08:24 |
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| jmleo | it would be better to have PACKAGECONFIG[rtmpdump] | 08:25 |
| jmleo | as this depends on librtmp, provided by rtmpdump | 08:26 |
| bluelightning | definitely yes | 08:26 |
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| bluelightning | PACKAGECONFIG[rtmp] probably since rtmp is the functionality | 08:26 |
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| sodik | hi folks | 11:55 |
| sodik | I have problem running the python3 from 1.6.1 builds | 11:55 |
| sodik | experiencing following error: | 11:56 |
| sodik | # python3 Fatal Python error: Py_Initialize: Unable to get the locale encoding ImportError: No module named 'encodings' Aborted | 11:56 |
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| jmleo | bluelightning: I try to use PACKAGECONFIG | 12:10 |
| jmleo | but it seems to not find librtmp | 12:11 |
| jmleo | I added inherit pkgconfig in the rtmpdump recipe | 12:11 |
| jmleo | and added the line PACKAGECONFIG[rtmp] = "--enable-rtmp,--disable-rtmp,librtmp" | 12:12 |
| jmleo | in meta/recipes-multimedia/gstreamer/gstreamer1.0-plugins-bad.inc | 12:12 |
| jmleo | and removed the --disable-rtmp from the EXTRA_OECONF of course | 12:12 |
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| bluelightning | jmleo: that last parameter should be rtmpdump not librtmp | 12:25 |
| bluelightning | (it's specifying what should be added to DEPENDS) | 12:25 |
| jmleo | ok I tried that too, but it is not working either | 12:27 |
| jmleo | how do you specify that rtmp feature should be added exactly ? | 12:29 |
| bluelightning | jmleo: the PACKAGECONFIG variable itself needs to also contain "rtmp" in order to enable the feature | 12:33 |
| jmleo | uh ? | 12:34 |
| bluelightning | there's some documentation in the reference manual: http://www.yoctoproject.org/docs/current/ref-manual/ref-manual.html#var-PACKAGECONFIG | 12:34 |
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| jmleo | but who should do this PACKAGECONFIG[rtmp] ??= "" | 12:35 |
| bluelightning | you mean PACKAGECONFIG ??= "" | 12:35 |
| jmleo | yes | 12:35 |
| bluelightning | the recipe should specify a default, but then you can set it outside of there via PACKAGECONFIG_append_pn-<recipename> = | 12:36 |
| bluelightning | please refer to the link above, it's all in there | 12:36 |
| jmleo | I think I know what the problem is | 12:36 |
| jmleo | as the recipe is named rtmpdump and not rtmp | 12:36 |
| bluelightning | no, that's not the problem | 12:36 |
| jmleo | well, shouldn't the recipe rtmpdump contain PACKAGECONFIG ??="rtmp" | 12:37 |
| jmleo | if not, I did not understand the doc, and will read it again | 12:37 |
| bluelightning | we're configuring the gstreamer1.0-plugins-bad recipe right? so it needs to affect that recipe, not rtmpdump | 12:38 |
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| jmleo | ok, adding PACKAGECONFIG_append_pn-gstreamer1.0-plugins-bad = "rtmp" works ! | 12:43 |
| jmleo | do I need inherit pkgconfig in rtmpdump recipe though ? | 12:43 |
| bluelightning | no, the pkgconfig class and PACKAGECONFIG are unrelated | 12:45 |
| jmleo | Ok, now, can I submit a patch in order to have it in master ? :) | 12:48 |
| bluelightning | jmleo: http://www.openembedded.org/wiki/How_to_submit_a_patch_to_OpenEmbedded | 12:51 |
| jmleo | thx, I was reading this ;) | 12:53 |
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| -YoctoAutoBuilder- build #37 of nightly-x86-64 is complete: Success [build successful] Build details are at http://autobuilder.yoctoproject.org/main/builders/nightly-x86-64/builds/37 | 13:02 | |
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| sodik | anyone familiar with python3 ? | 13:52 |
| sodik | the current python3.3 seems not to work out of the box on yocto 1.6.1 | 13:53 |
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| rperier | hi, this morning I tried to start runqemu-export-rootfs from lxc (ubuntu 14.04 into a arch linux as host). When running rpcinfo -p nothing is listed for unfsd, is it normal ? | 14:00 |
| rperier | also in the displayed kernel cmdline (when script ends), all port parameters are empty | 14:01 |
| rperier | (I use rpcbind) | 14:01 |
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| mckoan | anyone using imx6q-sabrelite with kernel 3.10.17 and DT ? | 14:12 |
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| Technicus | Hello. | 14:13 |
| Technicus | I'm new to Yocto and trying to set up an Intel Galeleo with a web interface for home automation. Can I do that with Yocto? If so how? | 14:14 |
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| LetoThe2nd | Technicus: 0) develop your application and package it 1) build a base image for your board including needed libs 2) add your packaged application 3) run | 14:17 |
| LetoThe2nd | (basically) | 14:18 |
| Technicus | LetoThe2nd: Is there a chance you could direct me to some tutorials or documentation that explains this further please? | 14:20 |
| LetoThe2nd | Technicus: well yocto has a very good quick start document | 14:20 |
| LetoThe2nd | Technicus: i personally would start with that, and leave out the board completely at first. | 14:20 |
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| LetoThe2nd | Technicus: once everything works there in qemu, do the transition. | 14:21 |
| Technicus | Ok, I think I am starting to understand how this all goes together. | 14:21 |
| LetoThe2nd | but for the basic development of some web application, you probably don't even need that, just some testbed with whatever webserver you desire. | 14:22 |
| Technicus | LetoThe2nd: do you have any experience with the Intel Galileo? | 14:22 |
| LetoThe2nd | Technicus: none at all. | 14:22 |
| Technicus | LetoThe2nd: what is your experience with Yocto? | 14:23 |
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| LetoThe2nd | Technicus: building stuff :) | 14:23 |
| Technicus | LetoThe2nd: what have you built? | 14:24 |
| Technicus | What devices have you installed it on? | 14:24 |
| LetoThe2nd | Technicus: stuff. sorry, it's not gonna be more precise. | 14:24 |
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| LetoThe2nd | or in more formal english "i'm using yocto to build software for linux-powered devices" | 14:25 |
| Technicus | Well Yocto is completely new to me, and it seems like it comes with a steep learning curve. Is that the case? | 14:25 |
| LetoThe2nd | i'd call that correct. | 14:25 |
| Technicus | What devices have you installed Yocto onto? | 14:25 |
| LetoThe2nd | i won't say. please stop asking. | 14:26 |
| LetoThe2nd | and be aware that the usual transition from uC-stuff to embedded linux stuff always includes a steep learning curve, no matter what linux platform you're about to use. | 14:27 |
| Technicus | LetoThe2nd: Ok. Why would someone choose Yocto over any other distribution? | 14:27 |
| LetoThe2nd | Technicus: if it fits your needs, e.g. if the workflow and archievable results provide what you want | 14:28 |
| Technicus | I am just trying to figure out why Yocto and what is so special about the Galileo. | 14:28 |
| LetoThe2nd | if they don't, then don't use yocto. but again, that holds true for about any tool. | 14:28 |
| Technicus | But I understand that you are not familiar with the Galileo so I'm not asking you about that anymore. | 14:28 |
| LetoThe2nd | the galileo is just another board. | 14:29 |
| LetoThe2nd | the question is, what do you want to archieve. are you familiar with using a desktop-style linux distro, do you want to tinker and develop on the target itself? | 14:30 |
| LetoThe2nd | do you need reproductibility? do you have to care about licensing? | 14:31 |
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| LetoThe2nd | if its only a tinkering project for your living room, you're probably not needed many of the powers yocto (or anything else that is OE-based) provide. | 14:32 |
| rburton | galileo is somewhat special in that it's not a "normal" x86 CPU, and you can't just install a normal distribution out of the box | 14:32 |
| LetoThe2nd | rburton: "not out of the box" doesn't mean "impossible" | 14:32 |
| rburton | LetoThe2nd: agreed, people are running debian and others | 14:32 |
| LetoThe2nd | yeah, and if you'Re familiar with debian, and just want to tinker a bit, why not use debian for example | 14:33 |
| LetoThe2nd | so the question should not be "what are reasons for using $SOFTWARE", but "what software will fit my needs the best." | 14:34 |
| LetoThe2nd | (as in every part of proper engineering) | 14:35 |
| Technicus | Well, I'm partial to Arch, and I am going with Yocto because it is recommended by Intel. Although I am not interested in learning another OS at the moment. | 14:43 |
| Technicus | . . . and I am just tinkering around with it. | 14:43 |
| Technicus | *Sort of. | 14:43 |
| Technicus | I have been tasked with learning how this thing works, specifically to serve a page that can turn a light on and off. And maybe we will do something more usefull with it later. | 14:45 |
| LetoThe2nd | "i've been tasked". does that mean like "do research for us on how to use this type of hardware in real life environments, and nubmers where we cannot handcraft every single installation"? | 14:46 |
| LetoThe2nd | if yes, then yocto is probably your tool. thats why i specifically asked about your requirements. see above. | 14:47 |
| bluelightning | Technicus: I'd encourage you to take a look at the IoT devkit: https://software.intel.com/IoT | 14:49 |
| LetoThe2nd | bluelightning: very good point. | 14:50 |
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| Technicus | LetoThe2nd: Requirements, I reread what you wrote, but I'm not understanding . . . The shop where I work tasked me with learning how to set up a web server with this device that simply turns a light on and off. The device is the Galileo, and the Intel documentation links me to Yocto, and I am trying to learn it. | 14:55 |
| LetoThe2nd | Technicus: this task can be interpreted in some very, very different ways. | 14:56 |
| LetoThe2nd | Technicus: 1) the real goal is: a webpage with an on/off button that toggles some relay. | 14:57 |
| Technicus | LetoThe2nd: Allow me to admit something to you, I am a fairly new with embedded devices. | 14:57 |
| LetoThe2nd | then my answer is: grab some image to run on the board, telnet/ssh into it, hack it up. done. | 14:57 |
| Technicus | I can easily ssh into it, but it is an environment that I am unfamiliar with. | 14:58 |
| fishey1 | Technicus: then yocto isn't going to help you. | 14:58 |
| LetoThe2nd | Technicus: 2) the real goal is: "learn how to use this type of technology" (and the light is just an example). then my answer is: depending on what you need *AFTER* you learned how to use it, choose the tools to learn | 14:58 |
| LetoThe2nd | Technicus: yocto is mostly about reproductibility (amongst some other things). it means, you invest a considerable amount of time in automating *EVERYTHING* that is needed on the board. | 14:59 |
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| LetoThe2nd | Technicus: this pays off when you need to reproduce it, for example for manufacturing, testing, etc. | 14:59 |
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| Technicus | Hmmm, interesting . . . this may require a shift in thinking . . . | 15:00 |
| LetoThe2nd | if you don't need that, nor that knowledge, and you actually jsut want to switch that lightbulb, grab some image that runs a webserver service, hack it up, done, forget everything else. | 15:00 |
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| LetoThe2nd | Technicus: isn't "you need a shift in thinking" what i've been saying since 45minutes now? | 15:01 |
| Technicus | Ok . . . I see, are you suggesting to find a Yoct image, or migrate to a different distribution? | 15:01 |
| Technicus | LetoThe2nd: Hey, it takes me time to understand concepts that are new to me. | 15:02 |
| LetoThe2nd | Technicus: well still you haven't answered the most trivial question i'Ve asked a few times by now. | 15:03 |
| bluelightning | LetoThe2nd: steady... ;) | 15:03 |
| LetoThe2nd | "what is your actual goal?" | 15:03 |
| LetoThe2nd | Technicus: *sigh* its totally not about "distributions".... | 15:03 |
| LetoThe2nd | bluelightning: yeah.. i'm trying. | 15:04 |
| LetoThe2nd | Technicus: its "i need this thing here to do X" versus "i need to gather knowledge" | 15:04 |
| Technicus | LetoThe2nd: what do you mean? The goat is to host a web page on the Galileo that simply has a link that toggles a light. Should there be something more than that? I am trying to understand how to modify Yocto to do that or maybe I should change to a different OS. | 15:05 |
| LetoThe2nd | Technicus: i admit i cannot put it into other words, sorry. | 15:06 |
| LetoThe2nd | one last try. | 15:06 |
| rburton | leto is asking what the next step would be once the light switch works. if that's the entirety of the project then install debian, install apache, write cgi script, done. | 15:06 |
| bluelightning | Technicus: it really does sound like the IoT devkit is more suited for this kind of thing | 15:07 |
| LetoThe2nd | Technicus: i'd suggest asking the person that tasked you this "what is the real goal of this task? why do you want me to do it?" | 15:07 |
| rburton | or the IoT Devkit which has similar pieces, whatever your're comfortable with | 15:07 |
| LetoThe2nd | Technicus: if the person answers: "we've got this backyard light here, and i want to control it from home", then its option 1), hack up things. | 15:07 |
| Technicus | Ok . . . we might do other things with it after I get light switch thing to work, but I have not come up with any other objectives after that. | 15:08 |
| LetoThe2nd | Technicus: if the person answers "i want to sell some product based on galileo, or any other embedded linux platform at some time in the future", then its option 2), you want knowledge | 15:08 |
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| Technicus | Really, I don't ever want to touch this thing again after I get the light to work, but we might do other things with it. Probably not making any products, but I don't know something might spark us to make some grand thing, but that is not in the plans. | 15:10 |
| LetoThe2nd | which is a total non-answer to me. well then i'm out, sorry. i think i cannot help you. | 15:11 |
| Technicus | LetoThe2nd: I'm not trying to bother you. Thanks for helping me out though. | 15:11 |
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| WarheadsSE | Hey all .. quick, probably stupid question --- how to remove a patch from a bb with a bbappend? Someone decided entirely removing c_rehash was a good idea cor ca-certificates | 15:25 |
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| gabrbedd | WarheadsSE: does SRC_URI_remove work? | 15:39 |
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| WarheadsSE | gabrbedd: I will try that here ina few | 15:46 |
| WarheadsSE | headed into a meeting | 15:46 |
| bluelightning | in an ideal world we'd fix whatever caused it to be removed (e.g. package it separately, or at least provide a PACKAGECONFIG to turn it on if it has to be a build-time decision) | 15:48 |
| WarheadsSE | in this case, because the oe openssl does not package c_rehash .. this recipe for ca-certs jsut comments it all out. | 15:49 |
| WarheadsSE | We've re-added c_rehash and _then_ noticed that it is all commented out of update-ca-certificates | 15:49 |
| bluelightning | we could make update-ca-certificates only use it if it's available instead perhaps? | 15:50 |
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| rburton | so why does our openssl not package c_rehash? | 15:59 |
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| rburton | khem: is patchwork happy? last night i was running the post-receive on patches it missed when the api was broken and it was fast, but now its really slow | 16:31 |
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| WarheadsSE | rburton: idk | 16:40 |
| WarheadsSE | PACKAGECONFIG += "perl" | 16:43 |
| WarheadsSE | this is what we have in our bbappend for openssl, because c_rehash is a perl script | 16:44 |
| WarheadsSE | So essentially: ca-certificates patches out c_rehash logic entire, instead of detecting if c_rehash exists in path | 16:44 |
| WarheadsSE | because if you build openssl without perl (likely to save size & image requirements) you don't get c_rehash due to said dependancy | 16:45 |
| WarheadsSE | rburton: ^ bluelightning that's why. sorry I had a meeding I had to go into | 16:46 |
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| rburton | interesting | 16:49 |
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| WarheadsSE | Yup | 17:36 |
| WarheadsSE | So yeah, if SRC_URI_remove works, I will be a happy camper. | 17:36 |
| WarheadsSE | This breaks quite a few things. | 17:36 |
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| bluelightning | WarheadsSE: ultimately if there's breakage for people we should try to fix it in the core though | 17:49 |
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| WarheadsSE | agreed. | 18:02 |
| WarheadsSE | I have to fix this for a product release immediately though | 18:02 |
| bluelightning | sure, understood | 18:05 |
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| censor | if i have a machine conf and want to append something to it, without touching the original file, where else can i put that? | 18:24 |
| censor | to be precise, i want to force the raspberry layer to also load the sound module (module_autoload_snd_bcm2835 = "snd_bcm2835") | 18:24 |
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| WarheadsSE | rburton: that did work. gabrbedd ty, that worked. | 18:49 |
| gabrbedd | WarheadsSE: cool! But yeah... what bluelightning said, too. :-) | 18:53 |
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| WarheadsSE | yeah | 18:55 |
| WarheadsSE | I think it should be as simple as altering the patch to just detect if c_rehash is in path, vs commenting it all out | 18:56 |
| WarheadsSE | Then, should people need it, they can enable PackageConfig for perl in openssl and viola | 18:56 |
| rburton | WarheadsSE: or make it respect an option so it errors if you want it on and you didn't enable c_rehash in openssl | 18:56 |
| rburton | having packages adapt magically isn't good for reproducible builds | 18:56 |
| WarheadsSE | So, you'd rather have it have an additional option, vs doing a simple detection .. ? since most people that package openssl include perl .. and thus rehash? | 18:58 |
| WarheadsSE | (outside OE) | 18:58 |
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| mtetreault | I am developping a custom linux module for a PCI device. The PCI device is connected to a PLX8112 bridge which convert the PCI in PCIe. The PLX bridge is connected to an imx.6 running yocto kernel 3.10.17. On my module when I try to enable the MSI (pci_msi_enable()) I alway receive an non-zero value (error). Do Anyway knows how to fix that or how I could proceed to pin point the issue? I know for a fact that my INTx are entering in | 19:27 |
| mtetreault | the plx bridge. | 19:27 |
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