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| Xz | hi guys | 07:03 |
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| Xz | do you know of any open-source friendly file share like a github for git? | 07:04 |
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| bluelightning | morning all | 09:35 |
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| ramose | Can yocto varibale be used in C source file? | 10:02 |
| lpapp | ramose: as long as you pass it as a define, for instance. | 10:06 |
| lpapp | but not sure if it is a good idea to make a C source file Yocto specific. | 10:07 |
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| rburton | ramose: idiom is to pass the variable as a define in CPPFLAGS | 10:49 |
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| ramose | lpaapp,rburton:Thanks for your replies ,I would want to use "SOC_FAMILY" of machine conf file in C source code as define | 10:53 |
| ramose | How should I go about it? | 10:53 |
| rburton | set a define in CPPFLAGS | 10:54 |
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| lpapp | CFLAGS (since it is C) | 10:54 |
| rburton | CPPFLAGS for defines | 10:54 |
| rburton | you're thinking of CXXFLAGS which is for c++ | 10:54 |
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| lpapp | rburton: as far as I understand CPPFLAGS is for both, and that is recommended when you have multiple codebase types (not just C). | 10:57 |
| ramose | rburton,lpaap: On basis this is flag I wanted to by pass a fucntion call in C code,so CPPFLAGS would be a good idea? | 10:57 |
| lpapp | ramose: well, it is personal taste, both CFLAGS and CPPFLAGS would work for you. | 10:58 |
| rburton | lpapp: http://www.gnu.org/software/autoconf/manual/autoconf-2.66/html_node/Preset-Output-Variables.html can be considered canonical | 10:58 |
| lpapp | I personally prefer the make documentation here as that is agnostic of the makefile generator, https://www.gnu.org/software/make/manual/html_node/Implicit-Variables.html | 11:01 |
| lpapp | but both will work in the end of the day, so pick whichever you fancy ^_^ | 11:02 |
| ramose | lpapp,Thanks ,would be great if you can guide me to some example :) ,I would try to grep this variable in C source meanwhile. | 11:04 |
| lpapp | ramose: you interestingly use the comma :) | 11:05 |
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| lpapp | ramose: e.g. make CFLAGS=$CFLAGS:${SOC_FAMILY} or something like that would be my guess. | 11:07 |
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| lpapp | and of course your buildsystem needs to respect C(PP)FLAGS | 11:08 |
| lpapp | wait, no | 11:08 |
| lpapp | ramose: e.g. make CFLAGS="$CFLAGS -D${SOC_FAMILY}" or something like that would be my guess. | 11:08 |
| lpapp | I do not know the exact syntax... someone else may know... | 11:08 |
| ramose | lpapp,ok and then I can use #define CFLAGS in C source,right? | 11:09 |
| lpapp | the libxt recipe has this: 'CFLAGS=-D_GNU_SOURCE -I${STAGING_INCDIR_NATIVE} ${BUILD_CFLAGS}' | 11:10 |
| lpapp | ramose: you can use #ifdef value-of-soc-family ... #endif, yeah. | 11:10 |
| lpapp | but I am still uncertain whether it makes sense to detect the soc family based on Yocto's variable. | 11:11 |
| ramose | lpaap:Thank you,it should be enough for me to get going :) | 11:11 |
| lpapp | (hopefully not in the wrong direction) | 11:12 |
| ramose | lpapp:are you alluding to use something else to determine the soc family,I'm looking forward to it ? | 11:13 |
| lpapp | usually there are platform defines; is this an exception? | 11:14 |
| ramose | lapp: But I would looking into some application code. | 11:15 |
| lpapp | ramose: not sure what exactly you mean, but it is not a big issue either way. | 11:18 |
| lpapp | go with what you feel comfortable with :) | 11:18 |
| ramose | lpapp: ok,I would try with both the approaches ,Thanks. | 11:19 |
| otavio | zeddii_afk: Got something? | 11:50 |
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| lpapp | hmm, I have this in my .bb recipe, but the package is not created: FILES_${PN}-foo = "${FOOBINDIR}" I install every related files into this dedicated FOOBINDIR. Any clue how I could pin it down and/or fix it? | 13:21 |
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| bluelightning | lpapp: are the files being picked up by another package, perhaps because that package is before your ${PN}-foo in PACKAGES? | 13:34 |
| lpapp | bluelightning: hmm, FILES_${PN}-foo does not appear to be in PACKAGES. Now, that is quite odd. | 13:36 |
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| bluelightning | you mean ${PN}-foo right? | 13:37 |
| lpapp | yeah | 13:37 |
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| lpapp | bluelightning: what could cause that? | 13:42 |
| bluelightning | lpapp: when you add a new package, you need to actually add it to PACKAGES | 13:43 |
| bluelightning | FILES isn't enough | 13:43 |
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| lpapp | bluelightning: oh, I missed that since it is just wrapping a huge recipe. | 13:51 |
| lpapp | and was not extending the huge recipe, thanks. | 13:51 |
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| lpapp | bluelightning: PACKAGE_BEFORE_PN? | 14:00 |
| bluelightning | lpapp: you can use that if you wish yes | 14:01 |
| lpapp | bluelightning: well, I am lost as no package of ours sets PACKAGES, only that which is tangentially related. | 14:01 |
| lpapp | e.g. FILES_${PN} is not mentioned explicitly in a "PACKAGES" variable. | 14:02 |
| JaMa | ${PN} is | 14:02 |
| lpapp | then there is also USERADD_PACKAGES. It is a bit of jungle. | 14:02 |
| lpapp | JaMa: not in our recipe, yet it is generated. | 14:02 |
| lpapp | it may be default, I would not know. | 14:02 |
| JaMa | yes it's default, bitbake -e knows | 14:03 |
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| lpapp | ah, ok, so the default is ${PN}-dbg ${PN}-staticdev ${PN}-dev ${PN}-doc ${PN}-locale ${PACKAGE_BEFORE_PN} ${PN}, thanks. | 14:05 |
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| lpapp | hmm, I am getting this for a prebuilt binary which was meant to be built outside Yocto, WARNING: QA Issue: No GNU_HASH in the elf binary: | 14:37 |
| lpapp | can I build it outside Yocto the way that Yocto will not complain? | 14:37 |
| lpapp | (i.e. not making the warning quite in Yocto as a workaround) | 14:37 |
| lpapp | quiet* | 14:37 |
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| bluelightning | lpapp: add INSANE_SKIP_<packagename> += "ldflags" within the recipe | 14:39 |
| rburton | lpapp: as per bitbake.conf, -Wl,—hash-style=gnu | 14:39 |
| bluelightning | or that, yes | 14:39 |
| bluelightning | you may find this useful: http://www.yoctoproject.org/docs/current/ref-manual/ref-manual.html#qa-errors-and-warnings | 14:39 |
| lpapp | yeah, I am aware of how to make warnings quiet. | 14:40 |
| lpapp | I guess I need to read upon the advantages of -hash-style=gnu | 14:40 |
| lpapp | thanks. | 14:40 |
| bluelightning | ah sorry I missed your supplementary comment about not quietening the warning | 14:41 |
| lpapp | https://blogs.oracle.com/ali/entry/gnu_hash_elf_sections | 14:43 |
| lpapp | seems it performs better than the sysv style hash. | 14:43 |
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| lpapp | bluelightning: INSANE_SKIP_${PN} += already-stripped cannot be further fine-tuned on a file basis rather than package, yeah? | 15:04 |
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| rburton | lpapp: correct | 15:24 |
| lpapp | rburton: thanks. | 15:27 |
| lpapp | so I need to put them into separate packages for nwo. | 15:27 |
| lpapp | now* | 15:27 |
| lpapp | (or just override the warnings for everything) | 15:27 |
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| lpapp | rburton, bluelightning: INSANE_SKIP_${PN}-foo += "already-stripped" did not help. I still get the warnings. :( | 15:35 |
| lpapp | I just said bitbake foo, that ought to eliminate the warnings, yeah? | 15:35 |
| rburton | yeah | 15:36 |
| lpapp | then I am not sure why it is not working as it is supposed to... How can I further pin that down? | 15:37 |
| lpapp | this is what I have, PACKAGE_BEFORE_PN_append = " ${PN}-foo" and INSANE_SKIP_${PN}-foo += "already-stripped" | 15:39 |
| lpapp | ldflags supressed the gnu-hash warnings, though, I wonder why already-stripped, not then. I do not seem to have made a typo | 15:50 |
| lpapp | so if one works, why not the other ... | 15:50 |
| JaMa | are the files witn warning really packaged in ${PN}-foo? (I would check packages-split/bar-foo) | 15:52 |
| lpapp | JaMa: yes | 15:56 |
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| lpapp | why does Yocto try to generate .debug for binaries without debug symbols? | 16:08 |
| otavio | lpapp: because it ensures we get an error when this is not possible and can act accordingly. If this is expected you can 'disable' it in the recipe. | 16:09 |
| lpapp | I know that one can disable debug symbols, but I am not sure I follow the "error logic". | 16:10 |
| lpapp | what error are you referring to? | 16:10 |
| otavio | lpapp: if we expect to have debug symbols we need to try to split them to know this fails or not. | 16:11 |
| kergoth | i think he's pointing out that we don't want to silently ignore already stripped binaries, but want to be notified when such is the case, so as to fix buildsystems that strip at build time, for example | 16:11 |
| fray | the system detects a lack of debug symbols and issues a warning or error.. | 16:11 |
| otavio | kergoth: thanks for helping with the English skills :) | 16:12 |
| lpapp | kergoth: yeah, that is a warning, not error. | 16:12 |
| lpapp | that is why I am confused what error is being referred to. | 16:12 |
| otavio | lpapp: if it is not an error for you, you can skip the split. | 16:12 |
| lpapp | and that could come without .debug established when it is not possible. | 16:12 |
| otavio | lpapp: so error out forces people to ack on it | 16:12 |
| kergoth | lpapp: no, whether its an error or a warning is user controllable. see ERROR_QA and WARN_QA in insane.bbclass | 16:12 |
| kergoth | its a distro decision generally | 16:13 |
| lpapp | kergoth: no, I am referring to the default state, but I am still unsure how it is related to .debug | 16:13 |
| lpapp | it would be possible to detect already stripped binaries without create .debug when it is not possible. | 16:13 |
| lpapp | without creating*. I do not see the connection to .debug for that. | 16:13 |
| lpapp | what I am trying to express is that my question is not about the already stripped error/warning, however it is configured | 16:14 |
| lpapp | my question is when we already could get that warning/error, why is there still an attempt to create .debug when it is not possible? It seems meaningless to me. | 16:14 |
| otavio | lpapp: this is easy. Make your distro and change the default policy. | 16:15 |
| lpapp | I do not (yet) see how it is distro specific. I see it meaningless all the time for now. | 16:15 |
| lpapp | What is the point of creating .debug if it is not possible? That seems to be an ultimate question to me distro agnostic. | 16:16 |
| lpapp | Already stripped? Yes -> issue warning/error + do not generate .debug instead of: Already stripped? Yes -> issue warning/error + generate .debug. | 16:17 |
| lpapp | (Btw, I am not asking this for a rhetorical or theoretical reason, but because I see my build failing due to this. Why I could circumvent the issue around with further settings on top of INSANE settings, it would seem more logical to me that the INSANE settings would resolve this, too) | 16:19 |
| lpapp | While* | 16:20 |
| lpapp | the error _on top of the insane already-stripped error_ is: ERROR: QA Issue: non debug package contains .debug directory: | 16:21 |
| lpapp | so I will need to settings, whereas it would be nice if I say yocto, well, it is already stripped, do not introduce further problems with trying to generate .debug. | 16:21 |
| lpapp | two settings* | 16:22 |
| lpapp | so basically what I am trying to debate, why do I need to tell Yocto not to generate debug symbols when I say yocto, hey, it is already stripped. It seems like double coding the same factor to me. | 16:23 |
| lpapp | (unless I am missing something) | 16:23 |
| rburton | lpapp: why are you getting .debug/ directories if the binaries are already stripped? Is there a mix of stripped and unstripped binaries? | 16:24 |
| fray | there is a simple switch to completely disable the strip/split process.. (it's the split process that generates the .debug) | 16:25 |
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| otavio | lpapp: there's no 'one solution fits all' so it is indeed a distro setting | 16:26 |
| lpapp | fray: ok, so in that case I would not get the already stripped complains either, I assume? | 16:26 |
| fray | INSANE_SKIP_... already-stripped skips the QA | 16:26 |
| fray | if 'already-stripped' in (d.getVar('INSANE_SKIP_' + pn, True) or "").split(): | 16:26 |
| fray | bb.note("Skipping file %s from %s for already-stripped QA test" % (file[len(dvar):], pn)) | 16:26 |
| fray | if (d.getVar('INHIBIT_PACKAGE_DEBUG_SPLIT', True) != '1'): | 16:26 |
| fray | that prevents the splitting | 16:26 |
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| lpapp | ok, I see, so the main problem is that already-stripped still does not work for me. | 16:27 |
| lpapp | rburton: good question, no... | 16:27 |
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| lpapp | or maybe yes :) | 16:27 |
| fray | then the file has debug symbols in it.. just not a full set.. | 16:27 |
| lpapp | I believe I really need two packages as it cannot be fine tuned on a file basis ... | 16:27 |
| lpapp | even though the packages will not make any sense separately. | 16:28 |
| lpapp | and I do not wish to disable debug for all in that one package either. | 16:28 |
| lpapp | so there is no optimal solution as far as I can see, unless I am missing something ... | 16:28 |
| fray | correct, it's designed to be package and recipe specific.. | 16:28 |
| fray | the splitting recipe specific.. and QA package specific | 16:28 |
| lpapp | yeah, that is my concern. | 16:28 |
| lpapp | it does not satisfy my use case. | 16:28 |
| lpapp | is there a way runtime not to allow a single package installation, only if both are being installed? | 16:30 |
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| rburton | rdepends? | 16:32 |
| lpapp | more importantly: what next can I do to see why already-stripped does not work? packages-split shows that the files are in the package for which I am setting the already-stripped argument. | 16:32 |
| lpapp | is that option supposed to work for "mixed" packages? | 16:33 |
| lpapp | (that is the only idea that comes to my mind to check) | 16:33 |
| fray | my guess is a simply typo somewhere.. start by inspecting bitbake -e <recipe> for INSANE_SPLIT_<package> --- where package is the package the files are going into.. (not the -dbg) | 16:34 |
| fray | that should contain the magic already-stripped item | 16:34 |
| bluelightning | that would be INSANE_SKIP | 16:36 |
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| fray | sorry yes | 16:39 |
| lpapp | speaking of typos :p | 16:46 |
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| otavio | RP: found other issue in recent changes in kernel handling | 16:49 |
| otavio | RP: base now has 'clean' for mismatching configure stamps right? | 16:49 |
| otavio | RP: but it runs: 'make clean' and don't take KERNEL_SRC into account | 16:50 |
| lpapp | rburton: you mean circular RDEPENDS? | 16:51 |
| rburton | yeah | 16:54 |
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| bryan_ | hi | 17:48 |
| bryan_ | I have integrated meta-efl layer in yocto | 17:48 |
| bryan_ | while running enligtenment I am setting F1(recover ) error while running first time on arm | 17:49 |
| bryan_ | Can anyone help ne out with this? | 17:49 |
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| lpapp | how is the FILES_${PN}-etc pattern matched in case of "ambiguity"? What is the ordering? The order that they appear in PACKAGES and PACKAGE_BEFORE_PN? | 18:43 |
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| JaMa | order in PACKAGES (PACKAGE_BEFORE_PN is part of that) | 18:45 |
| lpapp | ok, so I can put the specific files in there into a package before a more generic "catch-more" package. | 18:46 |
| lpapp | say, /opt/foo in pkg1 and the /opt (to catch the rest) in pkg2. | 18:46 |
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| lpapp | JaMa: thanks. | 18:54 |
| lpapp | fray: bitbake -e recipe | grep INSANE_SKIP -> looks as expected | 18:55 |
| lpapp | INSANE_SKIP_mypackage="already-stripped ldflags" | 18:56 |
| lpapp | still I get this: WARNING: File '/opt/foo' from myrecipe was already stripped, this will prevent future debugging! | 18:56 |
| lpapp | fwiw, I am using dylan if that makes a difference for already-stripped? | 18:57 |
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| Crofton|work | zeddii, why isn't there an error if you have a file listed as a patch in the .scc file, but the patch isn't in the SRC line? | 18:59 |
| lpapp | is there a way in the FILES_ specific to exclude a path rather than include? | 18:59 |
| zeddii | because they don't have to be in the SRC_URI :) | 19:00 |
| lpapp | specification* | 19:00 |
| Crofton|work | well, if I put it in th escc file, but the file isn't there it isn't applied and the re is no message I am an idiot | 19:00 |
| Crofton|work | I require frequennt reminders I am an idiot | 19:00 |
| zeddii | it should freak out. this is on master ? I wonder if I broke something .. | 19:00 |
| zeddii | Crofton|work, as do I :) | 19:01 |
| Crofton|work | it is likely master | 19:01 |
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| zeddii | ok. let me poke at it. I take your comment as a bug report .. since that isn't good. | 19:01 |
| Crofton|work | work had the scc file with the patch line, but no patch in work | 19:01 |
| * zeddii needs to build karma for the conferences this year :P | 19:02 | |
| zeddii | Crofton|work. if the .scc propagates, the code should propagate any patches that are listed in it recursively. it's a feature of how it works outside the build system .. but if it isn't found, it should exit 1 and break the build. | 19:02 |
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| Crofton|work | is there any log that shows the patches being applied? | 19:06 |
| zeddii | hmm. the verbosity is down by default, to just a spinner in do_patch | 19:07 |
| zeddii | I'm already in that code for another feature. I'll double check. | 19:08 |
| * zeddii waits for a kernel to fetch | 19:09 | |
| Crofton|work | something stupid is going on | 19:10 |
| Crofton|work | not patching and not updating .config | 19:13 |
| Crofton|work | hmm, | 19:13 |
| zeddii | hrpm. | 19:14 |
| zeddii | 2015 is shaping up to be exciting at the start. | 19:14 |
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| * zeddii is playing bug whack a mole. | 19:14 | |
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| Crofton|work | zeddii, I may have been given a bogus patch | 19:24 |
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| Crofton|work | zeddii, the patch I have should fail to apply | 19:35 |
| Crofton|work | not seeing that either | 19:35 |
| zeddii | hrmph. | 19:35 |
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| Crofton|work | I can't say the problem isn't at my end, but the recipe builds, just no kconfig option and no patch in source tree | 19:38 |
| Crofton|work | and no erros | 19:38 |
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| zeddii | hmm. I suppose this is all internal. if there's something you can point me that, that would help. or give me an idea how to mock it up. | 19:43 |
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| Crofton|work | well, uncommited changes to something that is public now | 19:47 |
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| Crofton|work | something really weird is going on | 19:52 |
| Crofton|work | I lose an entire source direcotry on the kernel tree | 19:52 |
| zeddii | you may be running afoul of the kernel build changes. we have some build issues that we are working through. those are the bugs I'm whack-a-moling | 19:53 |
| Crofton|work | why would drivers/input/misc disappear on me? | 19:55 |
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| * Crofton|work flips the table | 19:56 | |
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| zeddii | Crofton|work. was this on a clean, straight up build. or were you rebuilding ? after a sstate clean ? out of tree modules ? | 19:58 |
| Crofton|work | I did a cleansstate | 19:58 |
| zeddii | could be what we are hunting then. we are missing files like version.h :) | 20:00 |
| Crofton|work | rofl | 20:00 |
| Crofton|work | I found an older build that makes the same kernel version | 20:00 |
| Crofton|work | and it has the directory | 20:00 |
| Crofton|work | so I think I can say it used to work | 20:00 |
| Crofton|work | OK, so I am blaming you | 20:01 |
| * zeddii is partially just the guy stuck on the hamster wheel. | 20:02 | |
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| Crofton|work | I suppose this is the week everything that got broke over the holiday is fixed | 20:12 |
| zeddii | Crofton|work: indeed. and such fun! | 20:15 |
| Crofton|work | yep | 20:15 |
| Crofton|work | the annoying thing is the complete lack of debugging messages | 20:17 |
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| Crofton|work | Tizen is Yocto enabled! | 20:45 |
| Crofton|work | https://fosdem.org/2015/schedule/event/deviot03/ | 20:45 |
| Crofton|work | zeddii, if you have anything that needs testing, please send it my way | 20:46 |
| zeddii | will do. I'm working on three issues at the same time .. so I'm swapping and thrashing a bit. | 20:46 |
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| kergoth | gah, why do the python license classifiers not include version numbers for half of them? | 21:24 |
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| RP | otavio: you were asking for patches for the kernel issue to test? | 23:03 |
| otavio | RP: yes | 23:04 |
| otavio | I had several cases to test :) | 23:04 |
| RP | otavio: try dan.rpsys.net/fsl.patch | 23:04 |
| RP | zeddii: ^^^ | 23:05 |
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| RP | otavio: assuming I have the right issue... | 23:05 |
| otavio | RP: this is for the Qt issue | 23:06 |
| RP | otavio: yes | 23:06 |
| otavio | but what about the linux/version.h issue? | 23:06 |
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| otavio | zeddii: were looking at it I think | 23:06 |
| RP | otavio: I'm not familiar with that one :/ | 23:06 |
| RP | otavio: bug number? | 23:06 |
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| otavio | RP: I don't think it has been reported in bugzilla | 23:07 |
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| otavio | RP: I was dicussing with zeddii it today | 23:07 |
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| RP | otavio: ok, well I know nothing of it then | 23:07 |
| otavio | RP: anyway, back to the Qt issue. One thing which concerns me is why DEPENDS on virtual/kernel is not enough to guarantee do_install completion | 23:08 |
| RP | otavio: we're making the kernel bypass sstate. It is just as efficient to directly extract the source as it is to unpack an sstate tarball | 23:08 |
| RP | otavio: the downside is we need to be more clear about the dependencies | 23:09 |
| otavio | RP: I'd assume it would guarantee that sysroot were populated before it 'green' the dependency | 23:09 |
| RP | otavio: we're bypassing sstate in this case | 23:09 |
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| RP | its pointless to extract the kernel, copy it around, then tar it up again for sstate | 23:10 |
| otavio | RP: Are you confident the price is worth it? | 23:10 |
| otavio | RP: tar it again? | 23:10 |
| otavio | you mean for the source? | 23:10 |
| RP | yes | 23:10 |
| RP | otavio: Its a departure from the way we've worked, I do think it will give better user experience in the end | 23:10 |
| otavio | RP: but the sysroot shouldn't be lost. | 23:11 |
| RP | I did try and explain all this in the original patches | 23:11 |
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| otavio | RP: if this is the case, we could have an annonymous python which check for virtual/kernel and adds do_install splicit one? | 23:12 |
| RP | otavio: I doubt you need this in general | 23:12 |
| RP | e.g. if you just RRECOMMEND some kernel modules | 23:12 |
| RP | if you depend on the kernel sources, you do need it | 23:13 |
| RP | this was why we created the kernelsrc bbclass iirc | 23:13 |
| otavio | RP: that's why I said it for depends | 23:13 |
| RP | otavio: you can put virtual/kernel in DEPENDS for a module dependency for example | 23:14 |
| RP | it means multiple things | 23:14 |
| RP | otavio: I would have suggested kernelsrc.bbclass except for the fact you're doing machine specific overrides | 23:14 |
| RP | machine overrides with variable flags is harder | 23:14 |
| Crofton|work | RP, I'm also having "weird" kernel build issues | 23:15 |
| otavio | RP: I am afraid we are going to make it way too complex | 23:15 |
| Crofton|work | I'mm all angry, will calm down and start over in the morning | 23:15 |
| otavio | RP: I am not sure it is worth it | 23:15 |
| RP | I'd ask that people file clear bug reports | 23:16 |
| RP | "mentioing it on irc" isn't doing any favours here | 23:16 |
| Crofton|work | yeah, I was talking to zedii trying to figure out what was ahppening | 23:16 |
| Crofton|work | no visibale errors, but wrong things happening | 23:16 |
| otavio | RP: calm down. It is not easy to understand it all. | 23:17 |
| Crofton|work | basically, hard to amke a good bug report | 23:17 |
| otavio | RP: so we need to understand to provide a good bug report | 23:17 |
| Crofton|work | +1 | 23:17 |
| otavio | RP: so be thankful instead of complaining on us here | 23:17 |
| RP | well, equally, I've been asked today by two peope how they can help | 23:17 |
| Crofton|work | +1 | 23:17 |
| RP | and I can't tell them "go read 48 hours of irc logs" | 23:17 |
| otavio | RP: good and today I used full day looking at it | 23:18 |
| Crofton|work | well, it would help if they were here to talk with us and zedii | 23:18 |
| Crofton|work | he went to eat, which is fine by me | 23:18 |
| RP | Crofton|work: can you try and write down what you do know in a bug, please? | 23:18 |
| Crofton|work | if I could explain what is happening without seeming nuts I would make a bug | 23:18 |
| otavio | RP: and I don't think I qualify as a begginer in YP so I am afraid we need to improve how it will integrate or it will be too hard for people to get it right. | 23:19 |
| Crofton|work | I'm going to calm down and touch base with zedii in the morning | 23:19 |
| RP | otavio: I do agree on that. To do that we need to figure out where the problems are | 23:19 |
| RP | The problems appear complex and we don't understand them yet | 23:19 |
| * Crofton|work isn't that wound up, but he has got a work task blocked by this because I am an idiot | 23:19 | |
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| otavio | RP: http://ci.ossystems.com.br/job/fsl-community-bsp-master/425/consoleFull#-1374903367df9aaadc-264d-4163-ae95-fd7844a10b4f | 23:21 |
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| otavio | RP: imx-test is one triggering the linux/version.h issue | 23:22 |
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| Crofton|work | the weird thing I see is a patch not applying | 23:23 |
| Crofton|work | and kernel source directories vanishing | 23:23 |
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| Crofton|work | but my plan is regroup and start over in the morning | 23:23 |
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| otavio | RP: your Qt patch makes sense. But I think it is complex to people to graps it | 23:24 |
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| RP | otavio: so we should just revert the changes? | 23:25 |
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| otavio | RP: To be honest I don't know. But I do think it is way difficult for people to understand it. Even worse as kernel will be a completely different creature ... Basically DEPENDS works for all, but kernel. | 23:27 |
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| otavio | RP: so I am really thinking it is not worth the price. Most of time kernel is not rebuild that ofthen so optimizing for this might be overkill at this price. | 23:27 |
| RP | otavio: there are a number of problems these changes are trying to solve, not just that "optimisation" | 23:28 |
| otavio | RP: one possibility is the annonymous alternative I suggested; it makes DEPENDS to work | 23:28 |
| otavio | RP: which? | 23:28 |
| otavio | RP: with this kernel changes? | 23:28 |
| RP | otavio: the ones I wrote about in the several emails I sent out on this topic | 23:28 |
| otavio | RP: be more specific, please or point me the bug # | 23:29 |
| RP | making things like on target sources for kernel modules complete | 23:29 |
| RP | making things like module building against the kernel source work properly rather than missing files | 23:29 |
| otavio | RP: ok but this is a new thing. | 23:29 |
| RP | otavio: it isn't new | 23:29 |
| otavio | RP: agreed. Valid. But the kernel sstate drop is not related. | 23:30 |
| RP | otavio: yes, it really is | 23:30 |
| RP | part of the problem here is we've tried to keep compatibility in some senses and not require people to change things. That massively complicated things and we perhaps shouldn't have done that | 23:32 |
| otavio | RP: How come? I couldn't think any related reason but less time packing/unpacking stuff | 23:32 |
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| RP | otavio: if we "fixed" the various module building properly, it would have created a serious drop in performance which people would not like | 23:33 |
| otavio | RP: well maybe adding a new field makes it less complicated | 23:33 |
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| otavio | RP: like KERNELSRC_DEPENDS = "1" | 23:34 |
| otavio | or whatever | 23:34 |
| otavio | All the black magic with explicit task dependencies when I have a virtual/kernel in depends field makes no sense at all for someone reading the recipe | 23:35 |
| RP | otavio: I do agree and we probably need some kind of class | 23:35 |
| RP | otavio: at this point we probably do need to take a look at the several different kernel classes we have and try and figure out if we can have a better set of classes though | 23:36 |
| otavio | Agreed. | 23:36 |
| otavio | RP: Are you with fsl-arm built? | 23:36 |
| otavio | RP: try imx-test. It will trigger the version.h failure | 23:36 |
| RP | module, module-base, linux-kernel-base, kernel, kernelsrc, kernel-module-split and so on is just crazy :( | 23:36 |
| RP | otavio: I can see the problem even without building it | 23:37 |
| RP | otavio: I think what I might propose is moving the kernel source dir out of sysroots and into work-shared or something | 23:38 |
| RP | as well as moving the binary build dir somewhere separate to the source for all cases | 23:38 |
| RP | otavio: I need to talk with zeddii about this | 23:38 |
| Crofton|work | he's probably watching hockey :) | 23:39 |
| RP | right, I mean tomorrow | 23:39 |
| Crofton|work | Right | 23:39 |
| Crofton|work | I am making a Canadian joke | 23:39 |
| otavio | RP: how the work-shared would help ? | 23:39 |
| RP | Crofton|work: lost on me | 23:39 |
| RP | otavio: its clear sstate covers sysroots, it doesn't cover work-shared | 23:40 |
| Crofton|work | Canadians are hockey mad | 23:40 |
| otavio | RP: right | 23:40 |
| Crofton|work | wmat's son was on TV watching a juniors game | 23:40 |
| otavio | RP: but how would it help with depends madness? | 23:40 |
| RP | otavio: it doesn't, it helps with your complaint about people being confused | 23:41 |
| RP | otavio: I suspect there are several things we need to do to improve things, not one magic bullet | 23:41 |
| otavio | RP: I see | 23:42 |
| otavio | RP: how we could 'use' kernelsrc for conditionals, as the qt4 bbappend case. Any idea? | 23:44 |
| RP | otavio: for your specific issue, I'm wondering about dan.rpsys.net/fsl2.patch | 23:44 |
| otavio | Might help; let me try. | 23:45 |
| RP | otavio: I'm fairly sure that will fix your issue, I'm more worried about any others it may create :) | 23:46 |
| otavio | RP: heheh let me check it | 23:46 |
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| otavio | /home/otavio/src/ossystems/yocto/build/tmp/work/imx53qsb-oel-linux-gnueabi/imx-test/1_3.10.31-1.1.0-r0/imx-test-3.10.31-1.1.0-beta/module_test/mxc_sdma_mem_test.c | 23:49 |
| otavio | | /home/otavio/src/ossystems/yocto/build/tmp/work/imx53qsb-oel-linux-gnueabi/imx-test/1_3.10.31-1.1.0-r0/imx-test-3.10.31-1.1.0-beta/module_test/mxc_sdma_mem_test.c:21:27: fatal error: linux/version.h: No such file or directory | 23:49 |
| otavio | | #include <linux/version.h> | 23:49 |
| otavio | | ^ | 23:50 |
| otavio | | compilation terminated. | 23:50 |
| otavio | RP: didn't solve it. | 23:50 |
| RP | otavio: ok, working on it | 23:53 |
| otavio | RP: It is intriguing as linux/version.h is in sysroot | 23:54 |
| otavio | ~/src/ossystems/yocto/build/tmp/sysroots/imx53qsb/usr/include/linux/version.h | 23:54 |
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| RP | otavio: I notice that STAGING_DIR_KERNEL isn't in INCLUDE_DIR ? | 23:55 |
| RP | STAGING_KERNEL_DIR even | 23:56 |
| otavio | RP: but ~/src/ossystems/yocto/build/tmp/sysroots/imx53qsb/usr/include/linux/version.h this is STAGING_INCDIR | 23:56 |
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