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| darkhorse | bluelightning: hi, i am trying to migrate from dylan to dizzy-12.0.1 to be able to use runtime testing framework | 00:13 |
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| darkhorse | bluelightning: there's quite a few differences i am noticing. but first of all zlib has started to give me grief :( | 00:14 |
| darkhorse | bluelightning: ERROR: The recipe zlib is trying to install files into a shared area when those files already exist. | 00:15 |
| darkhorse | bluelightning: the fucntion that fails is do_populate_sysroot | 00:16 |
| darkhorse | bluelightning: any ideas? | 00:17 |
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| bluelightning | darkhorse: did you keep the same TMPDIR? if so, you should delete it or move it out of the way | 00:37 |
| darkhorse | bluelightning: i have a new TMPDIR however i am using the same SSTATE_CACHE | 00:42 |
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| darkhorse | bluelightning: so SSTATE_DIR is the same. do you think it matters? | 00:43 |
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| bluelightning | darkhorse: should not matter | 00:47 |
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| darkhorse | bluelightning: in dizzy, default TCLIBC is glibc. can I still use eglibc? | 01:13 |
| bluelightning | darkhorse: not really, no... eglibc as a project merged back into glibc, so it doesn't really exist anymore | 01:14 |
| bluelightning | functionality should be completely equivalent | 01:14 |
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| darkhorse | bluelightning: there used to external_sourcery_toolchain.bb in dylan. what happend to it in dizzy? | 01:35 |
| bluelightning | darkhorse: meta-sourcery provides that now | 01:35 |
| darkhorse | bluelightning:meta-sourcery is not included in dizzy and it wasn't included in dylan either. so is this the correct place to get it: https://github.com/MentorEmbedded/meta-sourcery | 01:44 |
| bluelightning | darkhorse: yes | 01:44 |
| darkhorse | bluelightning: secondly, does it support using prebuilt sourcery toolchain? | 01:44 |
| bluelightning | darkhorse: that is what it is intended for yes | 01:44 |
| darkhorse | bluelightning: okay. I will try it. Last time I could get it to work for me with dylan... | 01:45 |
| darkhorse | bluelightning: i meant "could not" | 01:46 |
| bluelightning | I can't say I've ever used it personally | 01:46 |
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| darkhorse | bluelightning: thisi s the error I get each time I try to use meta-sourcery:: Could not include required file conf/distro/include/tclibc-external-sourcery-toolchain.inc | 02:17 |
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| bluelightning | darkhorse: are you setting TCLIBC to something? | 02:23 |
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| darkhorse | bluelightning: it is being set to glibc in the defaultsetup.conf | 02:25 |
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| darkhorse | kergoth: can you help me with using meta-sourcery please? | 02:58 |
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| darkhorse | anyone with meta-sourcery experience? getting the following error - variable libc_baselibs references itself! | 03:33 |
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| darkhorse | bluelightning: is it possible to clean sstate-cache at a machine level? I want to keep native packages but clean all packages related to my target hardware | 16:35 |
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| darkhorse | kergoth: hi the latest meta-sourcery (master branch) seems to be broken - any ideas? | 16:42 |
| kergoth | i use it all day every day | 16:47 |
| kergoth | stop setting TCMODE, you're setting it incorrectly | 16:48 |
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| darkhorse | sometimes when I override a task (e.g do_configure), it doesn't work until I explicitly do "cd ${S}" as the first command. But this is not true always - what's going on? | 18:20 |
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| darkhorse_ | bluelightning: with dizzy, a lot of my autotools based packages have started to break :) Here's an example error output: | 18:47 |
| darkhorse_ | bluelightning: automake: error: no 'Makefile.am' found for any configure output | autoreconf: automake failed with exit status: 1 | ERROR: autoreconf execution failed. | 18:47 |
| bluelightning | darkhorse_: have you read the migration guide? | 18:49 |
| bluelightning | http://www.yoctoproject.org/docs/1.7/ref-manual/ref-manual.html#moving-to-the-yocto-project-1.7-release | 18:49 |
| darkhorse_ | bluelightning: no. i wasn't aware of it. thanks - i am going to take a look now | 18:50 |
| darkhorse_ | bluelightning: earlier, i asked if I can clean sstate for a specific machine.(without deleting sstate cache for native packages). is that possible? | 18:51 |
| bluelightning | no, there's no option for that | 18:51 |
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| otavio | Hi there | 19:18 |
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| kroon | hi otavio | 20:01 |
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| otavio | :) | 20:06 |
| otavio | OE is a nice way to heat the ambient ;-) | 20:13 |
| otavio | 18:13:04 up 20 days, 8:59, 8 users, load average: 24.62, 22.81, 20.74 | 20:13 |
| otavio | :P | 20:13 |
| dRbiG | it is indeed | 20:14 |
| kroon | firefox too :-/ | 20:14 |
| dRbiG | 'yocto - the best tool for turining your hardware into a space heater! | 20:14 |
| dRbiG | ' ;D | 20:14 |
| kroon | maybe im being unfair, i should probably blame flash plugin | 20:15 |
| otavio | hehe | 20:15 |
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| otavio | A 6 core machine is useless when 4 images is cooked in parallel :P | 20:15 |
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| kroon | I'd love for OE to track outputs, besides just inputs, if possible. that would save a lot of rebuilds .. | 20:16 |
| dRbiG | being a total newb to yocto my feeling is there's a lot going on that's not really necessary to give you what you want | 20:17 |
| otavio | kroon: yes but the complexity and the processing needed to perform this, maybe this ends not being worth it | 20:17 |
| dRbiG | just looking at the number, 19 GB of crap to produce 69 MB rootfs.tar.bz2 | 20:18 |
| otavio | dRbiG: it is not that simple | 20:18 |
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| otavio | dRbiG: there are real good reasons why OE does things in that way. The most important one is reproducibility | 20:19 |
| dRbiG | otavio: i know, but it still makes me scratch my head when i look at the numbers | 20:19 |
| dRbiG | i also think that this approach makes sense for what the intended workflow/use case is | 20:19 |
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| dRbiG | and my recent case of building an image for i586 on x86_64 probably didn't fit it at all | 20:20 |
| dRbiG | ...still the space heating part is true, and the numbers are true :D | 20:21 |
| dRbiG | i even made notes: http://ix.io/fYk | 20:22 |
| kroon | dRbiG, you can always enable "rm_work" ;) | 20:23 |
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| dRbiG | my feeling (not technical opinion) is that yocto builds an equaly complex layer of its own on top of the complex layer of cross-building a linux distro from scratch | 20:26 |
| dRbiG | e.g. approaching it is rather unpleasent; though i wonder if it might make more sense for someone that has never build a linux from scrtach | 20:27 |
| kergoth | its 1) crosscompilation and 2) host independence that adds the majority of the complexity. the rest is the nature of having a general purpose distribution building tool which works for any arbitrary target distro and machine | 20:44 |
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| RP | kergoth: any ideas why: http://git.yoctoproject.org/cgit.cgi/poky-contrib/commit/?h=rpurdie/t222&id=ea647a5f04307a374be5ab19e5defdece40ebdd5 would happen? | 21:40 |
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| darkhorse_ | bluelightning: hi again, i have a custom openssl implementation that provides libcrypto and libssl. but so does the standard openssl. I have setup PREFERRED_PROVIDER_libcrypto = "my-openssl" and PREFERRED_PROVIDER_libssl = "my-openssl" but the system still thinks there are two providers | 23:23 |
| darkhorse_ | bluelightning: any hints, please? | 23:24 |
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| bluelightning | darkhorse_: those are runtime targets I think you'll find - you need to be specifying the build time target which is probably just "openssl" | 23:33 |
| darkhorse_ | bluelightning: when I need to include openssl into an image i have to specify libcrypto and libssl packages - it doesn't take just openssl or any custom implementation. so when the image looks for providers it find two! hence i tried to set up PREFERRED_PROVIDERS. Are you saying that I should add openssl itself in the IMAGE_INSTALL as opposed to libssl and libcrypto? | 23:38 |
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| bluelightning | darkhorse_: no, in IMAGE_INSTALL you specify runtime targets i.e. packages | 23:39 |
| bluelightning | darkhorse_: but to be honest most of the time you do not need to explicitly install any library like openssl - a package containing an executable that links to a library in another package gets a dependency on that library package automatically | 23:40 |
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| darkhorse_ | bluelightning: i see. but let's say you have multiple providers for a runtime library - how do you specify a PREFERRED_PROVIDER for a runtime library | 23:43 |
| bluelightning | darkhorse_: that doesn't really work atm | 23:43 |
| bluelightning | darkhorse_: but it rarely matters - dependencies stated by the recipe are usually build-time targets first, with runtime dependencies following from those | 23:45 |
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| darkhorse_ | bluelightning: i am not sure i followed the last statement. yes, the run time dependencies follow from build time ones. but then the build system would try to provide the runtime dependencies - that's where it will find multiple providers and hence the problem? | 23:48 |
| bluelightning | darkhorse_: having selected a single build time provider of "openssl", only one should be built, hence only one ends up being available at runtime | 23:48 |
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