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alexlarsson | I'm gonna clean up the gnome-sdk yocto stuff to be a pure layer | 07:49 |
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alexlarsson | What is the recommended way to set up a git repo that contains a layer + the upstream yocto | 07:49 |
alexlarsson | Can i use a git submodule? | 07:49 |
alexlarsson | Seems tricky as the top yocto dir has several subdirs | 07:50 |
alexlarsson | Is there some example somewhere of this kind of setup that i can steal? | 07:50 |
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mckoan | good morning | 07:59 |
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alexlarsson | Would something like: EXTRA_OECONF_glibc += "bash_cv_getcwd_malloc=yes " | 09:17 |
alexlarsson | work in the distro config? | 09:17 |
alexlarsson | Or i guess i should put that in a .bbappend for glibc | 09:20 |
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ericbutters | is there any way to re-use a yocto sdk with yocto? so that yocto does not build a toolchain but uses a earlier build yocto sdk? | 09:27 |
ericbutters | lets say i get a yocto sdk from a vendor and i want to build additional software using yocto? | 09:28 |
ericbutters | best way is to get the meta layers from that vendor, but if this is not possible and i only have the sdk? | 09:29 |
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Minibio | hello | 09:32 |
Minibio | what are the differences between metadata and layers ? | 09:33 |
ant_work | hi, layers do contain metadata (recipes) | 09:36 |
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bluelightning | ericbutters: using an SDK built with our system as the build system toolchain isn't a supported configuration, no | 09:40 |
ericbutters | bluelightning: what is the difference between the yocto sdk and a "pure" toolchain? is there a way to extract a "pure" toolchain from the yocto sdk? | 10:06 |
bluelightning | I might be imagining things but I somehow recall we had this discussion before... | 10:09 |
ericbutters | bluelightning: yes, you remeber right.. sry, but it would help me a lot ;) and as there is anything we need in place with the yocto sdk there must be a way to get/extract a toolchain we can re-use with yocto? | 10:12 |
bluelightning | we simply don't support doing this, I'm afraid | 10:13 |
ericbutters | ok | 10:13 |
bluelightning | somewhere there is a succinct explanation of why but I can't find it at the moment | 10:13 |
ericbutters | np, if you find it just ping we.. would be great to get more detail on that | 10:14 |
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RP | ericbutters: the issue is that with the standalone toolchain whilst you get a compiler and a libc, its all flattened out. People think it would be quick just to use it however what they don't consider is that you have to extract the components like "libgcc", "libc", the libc locales and turn them into packages. That process is convoluted and depends a lot on how the originals were built. We did once have a recipe to try and do this but its simpler jus | 10:43 |
RP | ericbutters: I know Mentor do have recipes which try and do this for their codesourcey toolchain. You'll see the maze of conditionals in there shows how "complex" such a simple sounding problems becomes | 10:44 |
RP | ericbutters: as an example, if you want an on target gcc, it really needs to match the libgcc pretty closely. If you take the libgcc from the external toolchain, how do you ensure an exact match? | 10:45 |
ericbutters | RP: thanks for your comment. Were can I find the recipe you mentioned? Just to have an idea what you tried. | 11:03 |
RP | ericbutters: http://git.yoctoproject.org/cgit.cgi/poky/commit/?id=dc2192cabc007241dd805503a1015529b5e33c07 was the one we removed. Also look at http://git.yoctoproject.org/cgit.cgi/poky/log/?qt=grep&q=external-csl | 11:07 |
RP | ericbutters: external-csl is now in another layer iirc | 11:07 |
RP | ericbutters: that remove in the first commit simply won't work though, its not complicated enough by far (which is why it was removed) | 11:08 |
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Aurele__ | hi everyone | 12:42 |
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Minibio | in which situations have we to patch the sources ? | 13:08 |
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ulf` | good morning | 14:20 |
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acidfu | moo | 14:32 |
acidfu | One of my recipe doesn't build because the CC is set to "CC=/bin/arm-linux-gnueabihf-gcc \" I'm trying to figure out how to set CC properly from the recipe, any idea ? | 14:33 |
acidfu | thank you | 14:33 |
acidfu | the path for the compiler is wrong | 14:33 |
acidfu | I'd like something like : CC=/path/linaro/bin/arm... | 14:34 |
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rburton | does paul barker use irc? | 15:39 |
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angolini | I'm facing an X11 dependency error when building core-image-lsb-sdk. Does core-image-lsb-sdk be a "Basic image without X support" image? I'm confused | 16:37 |
angolini | the package bringing the dependency is libxt and i don't have x11 on DISTRO_FEATURES | 16:38 |
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bluelightning | angolini: can you run bitbake -g ? | 16:41 |
angolini | ok | 16:42 |
angolini | for bitbake -g libxt i got ERROR: libxt was skipped: missing required distro feature 'x11' (not in DISTRO_FEATURES) | 16:46 |
angolini | nothing provides..... | 16:46 |
angolini | maybe I should keep x11 on distro features for core-image-lsb-sdk | 16:46 |
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ulf` | rburton: ping | 16:51 |
rburton | ulf`: you're going to start talking about clang aren't you | 16:52 |
rburton | ulf`: been a bit busy today :/ | 16:52 |
ulf` | rburton: hehe | 16:52 |
ulf` | rburton: this is not urgent | 16:52 |
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angolini | oww just figured out there is a poky-lsb distro! i think it should work | 17:09 |
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kergoth | RP: ping | 17:21 |
RP | kergoth: pong | 17:21 |
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kergoth | RP: i'm hitting a case where setscenes are run, not failed, but then the real tasks get run anyway. i can't recall what could cause that, unless the sstate reuse was partial, but it doesn't appear to be | 17:23 |
* kergoth thinks | 17:23 | |
RP | kergoth: Paul reported that too and I think there may be an open bug. I could use a reproducible test case to better understand it though | 17:23 |
RP | kergoth: last time we discussed this, it was pseudo-native issues and being unable to extract some sstate due to lack of pseudo | 17:24 |
RP | kergoth: which may or may not be the case here I appreciate | 17:24 |
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bluelightning | yeah, I've seen it fairly often, but the trouble is it depends on the state of the system before the build which of course the build blows away | 17:31 |
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kergoth | Hmm, indeed. Okay, I'll try to come up with a test case. We seem to be hitting this behavior quite regularly | 17:35 |
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bryan | i am trying to upgrade webkit-gtk to v 2.4.1 | 17:47 |
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bryan | but i am facing issues while compiling | 17:48 |
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bryan | has anyone tried it? | 17:48 |
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bryan | latest bb recipe i found was for 1.8.3 | 17:50 |
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rburton | anyone here actually using systemd user sessions? | 17:53 |
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ulf` | rburton: tizen common is | 18:21 |
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onoffon | RP: around ? | 19:07 |
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khem` | RP:why is binutils 2.25 upgrade withheld | 19:08 |
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ulf` | khem`: ping ;) | 19:40 |
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paulg | someone checked some stuff in recently that killed /bin/sh out of existence on my non-busybox build. :-/ | 19:50 |
paulg | kind of renders the system useless. | 19:50 |
* paulg investigates. | 19:50 | |
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kergoth | Any objection to adding PACKAGECONFIG_BACKFILL? I think there'd be value to be able to add new defautl packageconfigs to a recipe without breaking any distros that might be setting packageconfig rather than appending/removing to/from it | 20:08 |
kergoth | hmm | 20:08 |
rburton | otavio: why does meta-fsl have a pulseaudio bbappend? seems to set a configure cache (can that go upstream?) and set packagearch | 20:08 |
rburton | otavio: context is master-next has PA6, so the append fails | 20:08 |
otavio | rburton: fsl-arm master-next also has the fixed bbappend :) | 20:13 |
rburton | cool | 20:14 |
otavio | rburton: and I want to double check if it is still need but I am not good on this so I need to ask FSL internals about it | 20:14 |
otavio | rburton: I pushed the bbappend rename. | 20:22 |
rburton | otavio: much appreciated, wanted to try for a green mut today and it refusing to start due to this in fsl and meta-intel needing bbappend updates isn't a good start! | 20:23 |
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acidfu | I'm trying to see where TCMODE and EXTERNAL_TOOLCHAIN are documented in yocto, but I can't find, any idea ? thank ! | 20:27 |
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khem` | ulf`: hello | 21:02 |
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khem` | acidfu: go to http://www.yoctoproject.org/docs/current/ref-manual/ref-manual.html and search for it | 21:03 |
ulf` | khem`: hi :) | 21:03 |
khem` | Did you go anywhere is meta-clang | 21:04 |
ulf` | khem`: I sent you an email last week regarding an issue building clang from the meta-clang layer | 21:04 |
khem` | I havent had much time for it | 21:04 |
ulf` | khem`: no | 21:04 |
khem` | ok. | 21:04 |
ulf` | khem`: I was looking for your help | 21:04 |
khem` | I am in process to upgrade it to 3.6 | 21:04 |
ulf` | great! | 21:04 |
otavio | khem`: how is the support for meta-clang going? | 21:05 |
khem` | Its not much there yet | 21:07 |
khem` | I need to first make space for 2 cross compilers | 21:08 |
khem` | into OE | 21:08 |
khem` | such that we can then select which one to use for a given packag | 21:08 |
khem` | at the same time build 2 cross toolchains in same infra and let them coexist | 21:08 |
acidfu | khem`, thx! | 21:17 |
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otavio | khem`: but how about to build everything with clang? | 21:42 |
otavio | is this already an option? | 21:42 |
khem` | otavio: thats my goal :) but its a long pull | 21:43 |
otavio | khem`: no; I mean to use clang only | 21:43 |
khem` | many component are too gnuismic | 21:43 |
otavio | ah ok | 21:43 |
otavio | so not yet working | 21:43 |
khem` | it is 75% there | 21:43 |
otavio | :D | 21:44 |
khem` | but things are like glibc | 21:44 |
khem` | dont yet work | 21:44 |
khem` | kernel | 21:44 |
khem` | not on all arches | 21:44 |
khem` | etc. | 21:44 |
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Crofton | fyi live now | 22:18 |
Crofton | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rzKI0ASB_Js&feature=youtu.be | 22:18 |
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RP | khem: I didn't take binutils since there were uboot issues with it | 22:20 |
Crofton | Earlier there was an Intel guy explaining Yocto Linux | 22:20 |
RP | khem: I was kind of waiting for someone to tell me they were resolved | 22:20 |
Crofton | RP, check out the video | 22:20 |
Crofton | shit people have never heard of YP at scale | 22:21 |
Crofton | hmm, koen is going to blow a fuse | 22:21 |
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RP | Crofton: that is scary | 22:23 |
Crofton | I am pretty rofl | 22:24 |
Crofton | still he hasn't said Yocto Linux | 22:24 |
Crofton | I need to ping jefro | 22:25 |
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Crofton | +1 for using OE logo | 22:30 |
RP | Crofton: he did talk about meta-poky and several other things which don't exist | 22:33 |
Crofton | meta-poky is much clearer though :) | 22:36 |
Crofton | Steve was at OEDAM last year | 22:36 |
Crofton | balder guy with beard :) | 22:36 |
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Crofton | He is in here a lot :) | 22:37 |
Crofton | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rzKI0ASB_Js&feature=youtu.be | 22:37 |
Crofton | blitz00, | 22:37 |
Crofton | urg | 22:37 |
Crofton | bluelightning, | 22:37 |
bluelightning | hi... what's up? | 22:37 |
Crofton | watch the video | 22:38 |
Crofton | YP/OE talk from scale | 22:38 |
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bluelightning | ah ok... I'll check it out, thx | 22:38 |
Crofton | it is live | 22:38 |
Crofton | I suspect it will be available later | 22:38 |
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Crofton | there was an Edison one earlier | 22:38 |
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RP | Crofton: can we video koen's reaction to the terminology slides? | 22:58 |
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rburton | Crofton: intel guy earlier was probably john hawley, talking about minnow/yocto/shiny demos? | 23:32 |
Crofton | yeah, but then there was an Edison talk | 23:33 |
Crofton | using one of my personal favs "Yocto Linux" :) | 23:33 |
rburton | ah | 23:33 |
rburton | ffs | 23:34 |
Crofton | :) | 23:34 |
rburton | i wonder who that was, gentle prodding required | 23:34 |
Crofton | how many ways can you combine bitbake, Yocto, OpenEmbedded, Project, Poky .... | 23:34 |
rburton | but anyway time for sleep | 23:34 |
Crofton | gn | 23:34 |
Crofton | I need to write an expect script to power cycle a box | 23:35 |
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