Tuesday, 2015-03-24

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EddyLaibuild kvm-image-minimal with meta-virtualization got error02:00
EddyLaiException: NameError: global name 'incompatible_license_contains' is not defined02:00
EddyLaiERROR: Failed to parse recipe: /poky/oe-core/meta/recipes-support/libproxy/libproxy_0.4.11.bb02:01
EddyLaiwhat or where it need to be defined?02:01
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redenginanyone built libgfortran?04:54
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ericbuttersping kergoth08:18
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JEEBsvhmm, is LOCALCONF_VERSION needed when creating a new distro? I remember picking it up from somewhere but I don't think I remember if it's actually required09:20
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ericbuttersping bluelightning12:04
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belenericbutters: bluelightning is at ELC, so he is probably asleep :)12:26
ericbuttersbelen: i try to do populate_sdk but got errors: http://paste.ubuntu.com/10668530/ -- i built a minimal image using an external toolchain. but baking the sdk does not work. this is on dora12:28
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ericbuttersping bluelightning12:51
bluelightninghi ericbutters12:51
ericbuttersbluelightning: i try to do populate_sdk but got errors: http://paste.ubuntu.com/10668530/ -- i built a minimal image using an external toolchain. but baking the sdk does not work. this is on dora12:51
bluelightningericbutters: you'll need to talk to whoever maintains the layer you're using to configure the external toolchain (Mentor?); there are dependencies there that are not being correctly handled12:55
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ericbuttersbluelightning: okay, but how to get more information about this? what are the dependencies? i use bitbake -v -c populate_sdk a-minimal-image and that prints all selected providers: http://paste.ubuntu.com/10668996/13:17
ericbutterspls note the eglibc-locale13:18
ericbuttersi got all the layers from nvidia, but yes, maybe mentor did the toolchain things13:18
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bluelightningericbutters: bitbake -g <imagename> may possibly be of use tracking things down13:27
bluelightningericbutters: the other thing to check is if this setup is definitely supported with the dora branch by the folks who supplied it13:28
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seb_owI have a recipe for an image that adds packages to the image : IMAGE_INSTALL += "..."; In the same file, I want to add some packages only for a given target: IMAGE_INSTALL_arm += "..."14:14
seb_owhowever, only the packages from IMAGE_INSTALL_arm are built14:14
seb_owis there a way to have both IMAGE_INSTALL and IMAGE_INSTALL_arm packages built for arm architecture ?14:14
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usurerWhoops, hi all14:54
armpityptm: armin is one14:55
sjolleyYPTM:   Ready-Access Number:    8007302996  Access Code:    270575114:57
sjolleyYPTM: Stephen on14:57
sgw_armpit: glad to see your one!  How's elc?14:57
frayHuh, I was a bit surprised there was a meeting today w/ ELC on..14:58
frayYPTM: Mark is on14:58
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sgw_YPTM: Saul is on14:58
sgw_fray: I think there are many of us that are not at ELC this year.14:59
frayI guess so..14:59
frayI'm planning to be at the OEDAM meeting end of the week, but couldn't get away for ELC (other commitments)14:59
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zeddiiYPTM: Bruce is on15:00
jaeckelbluelightning: do you know how I could best determine who creates the gpg signatures on rpm packages? I mentioned it last week, and you said you've no idea where these sigs come from...15:00
armpitfray where are you ?15:01
fraycurrently.. MSP area.. ;)15:01
frayfly into Oakland around 6pm Thursday15:01
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bluelightningjaeckel: I'm not sure, I'm afraid...15:01
jaeckelthat's what I found as well, so I'm not the first person who wonders15:01
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fraythe built in (RPM) package signatures are self created when each package is generated..15:01
frayRPM5 does this automatically to improve the ability to detect a corrupt package..15:02
frayyou can add your own (trusted) signatures to RPM packages -after- they've been created by the system, using hte 'rpmsign' tool..15:02
jaeckelfray: thanks alot15:02
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bluelightninginteresting... we might want to document that somewhere15:03
jaeckelthat should be documented somewhere, because I thought it's done somewhere in yocto where I can just hook in and replace the key15:03
fraynot as far as I know..15:03
frayI looked into adding that ability a while back, and decided it wasn't wise due to security issues..15:04
frayit's much better (security practice) to build the packages (verify the contents / QA) and then sign them as part of your release process15:04
jaeckelthat's what I was pointed to by dl9pf while researching15:04
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fraynote the version of RPM that SuSe use is RPM4.  RPM4 does not do auto-self signed packages for validation..15:05
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AlexG___YPTM: AlexG on the call15:05
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AlexG___bluelightning: Hi Paul15:06
frayRPM5 did this since it can verify the signature -before- processing any package metadata in an attempt to stop (intentionally) corrupt data from causing vulnerabilities..  obviously, an attacker can also self-sign.. but they'd need to know to do it and how to do it properly15:06
fray...which would change hashes, and other mechanisms people already use for validatiosn that would be difficult (not impossible) to fake..15:06
fraybut a proper signature is the only way to do it "right"..15:06
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rburtonbluelightning: hi paul.  how's elc?15:07
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frayas for teh SuSE link, the setup chunks for creating the signature look to be valid.. but the actual signing steps are a big different..15:07
frayin RPM5 you have the ability to either add a signature or replace an existing..  (generally adding is better IMHO)15:08
frayI'm not sure, but I don't believe OBS's signing can 'add', only replace15:08
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bluelightningrburton: great so far, lots of people to talk to15:09
rburtonbluelightning: i hope sean is telling everyone how great i am, i told him to15:09
bluelightningrburton: I haven't heard him saying anything yet, but I'll let you know ;)15:10
frayin RPM5.. you'd use the '--addsign' to add a signature..  and -resign to replace the existing..15:11
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* [Sno] waves16:26
[Sno]someone around can answer some (maybe dumb) questions regarding PACKAGECONFIG?16:26
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[Sno]1) Is it possible to define PACKAGECONFIG (or add/remove) per recipe (eg. add libvirt only to collectd)16:28
[Sno]2) is it possible to define dependencies for a recipe based on it's PACKAGECONFIG?16:28
kergoththe syntax in a recipe is: packageconfig[foo] = "—enable-argument,—disable-argument,list of build time dependencies,list of runtime dependencies"16:30
kergothso that should answer 2) for you16:30
[Sno]kergoth: thanks, it does ;)16:31
kergothand 1) is yes, because it's just a variable in a recipe, and you can override or append to any recipe variable from a config file with overrides16:31
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kergothPACKAGECONFIG_append_pn-busybox = " foo"16:31
kergothfor example16:31
[Sno]cool, thanks16:31
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kergothor PACKAGECONFIG_remove_pn-nano = "bar"16:31
kergothor just PACKAGECONFIG_pn-foo = "a b c"16:31
[Sno]and maybe the i-dot ...16:32
kergothsee the docs on OVERRIDES for details on that, the pn-${PN} override is just one of many available16:32
frayjust remember if you change the setting you are essentially changing the package's configuration, which changes the checksum, which will cause anything dependning on that package to all change.. (each changed item triggers a rebuild)16:32
kergothindeed, good to point that out16:32
fraythis doesn't matter to most people.. but you need to be cautious with these changes if you intend to support on-target upgrades via packages16:32
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[Sno]fray: thanks for mentioning, but we deploy only squashfs images ...16:33
frayPACKAGECONFIG settings should be viewed as a system-wide change, that happens to just affect one particular recipe..16:33
kergothyeah, we don't encode that configuration into the binary package metadata in any way, and also we don't support configuration specific build time dependencies either16:33
frayless for you to worry about then16:33
[Sno]I've seen in collectd_%.bb (http://cgit.openembedded.org/meta-openembedded/tree/meta-oe/recipes-extended/collectd/collectd_5.4.1.bb) the python dep is sucked in via "inherit" - this is not dynamic, isn't it?16:33
frayit is not16:34
[Sno]I know it's system-wide - I just want to ensure that new PACKAGECONFIG for e.g. collectd won't affect more packages than needed (by adding features to them)16:34
frayjust because the -build- dependency is there, doesn't mean you need to deploy with it16:34
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frayit will cause anything requiring collectd to rebuild..  which could introduce changes (based on libraries, configure discovery, etc..)16:35
frayin this case, significantly less likely to actually trigger a change16:35
[Sno]that's true - I have to analyze how the result looks like (python-wise ...)16:35
fraymore likely in a change to python, perl or other large re-used components16:35
[Sno]I'd like to add perl support to collectd and libstatgrab ...16:36
[Sno]well - I'd like to add perl and libstatgrab support to collectd ;)16:36
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frayshould be possible to do with PACKAGECONFIG settings.. (if it's not "obvious", then it will take recipe specific changes.. but that is what the interface was designed to allow)16:44
frayanything that uses configure to control this is "easy".. anything that doesn't is much harder (but possible)16:44
[Sno]yeah, the append-file isn't that difficult - but I have serious problems finding the right package-dependent settings from time to time ...16:50
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jaeckelthx fray16:52
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cgkadesi'm sorry if this is a stupid question, i'm trying to figure out how yocto works. Where do i look to make sure that gcc and build tools get installed with a build?17:01
cgkadesI'm using yocto for the intel galileo board, and it's pretty confusing where everything is17:03
rburtonyou want an image with a toolchain in?  add 'tools-sdk' to the IMAGE_FEATURES variable in your local.conf17:04
fray(BTW I don't suggest building ON a galileo.. it's like stepping back in time to the i586 days.. you can go do something else when doing a complicated build...)17:05
fraycross compiling is MUCH faster there..17:05
arfollfray: or compiling in a galileo chroot :) x86 compat is fun17:06
frayyou can do that, but I still caution against it..17:06
fraycontainers seem to work reliably, but I've hit cases where chroots do unexpected things..17:06
frayalso when using either chroot or containers.. any programs that attempt to identify the host type may discover a CPU that has optimizations that the galileo does not.. causing you to build less then optimized, or code that simply won't execute on the intended target..17:07
arfollweird, i had the opposite :) tried to move to docker from schroot and ended up giving up due to weird issues17:07
fraycross compilation resolves that17:07
fraychroot you are still in the hosts environment.. but may not have access to proc and other things.. (or may be able to 'leak' out..) and it requires "root"17:08
fraycontainers you can continue to build as non-root.. and have access to a contained proc and device filesystem as appropriate for whatever you are doing17:08
arfollyes totally right about leaking, oe toolchain is very nice tbh17:08
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cgkadescross compile == building a .bb file? or is there a direct way to compile stuff?17:09
fraycross compiler, if you are building a single application.. use an SDK toolchain17:11
fraythis allows you to manually compile, on a fast host targeting another (usually slower) target system17:12
cgkadesi'm building gphoto2 which needs quite a few libraries... not sure how to do that17:12
cgkadesso for galileo, i build the toolchain with bitbake?17:12
fraybuild you intended target filesystem.. (try to get all of the libraries for YP, OE, etc you can..)  put them into your filesystem...17:13
fraythen construct an SDK.. bitbake -c populate_sdk <image>17:13
frayyou will get a cross compiler set along with a sysroot that matches your running target image... install the SDK and then you can use that to control your builds..17:13
frayyou source the environment file, and then use a series of environment values to actually build.. If it's configure, there is a helper for that.. if it's simply 'make' you can do that directly..17:14
cgkadesso for this, i download all the source, and build the libraries needed with the sdk?17:14
frayuse the YP to build the SDK.. then you can build in a traditional approach, on your host with the SDK..17:14
cgkadesi have to set some --prefix values to install the libs in the correct locations17:15
cgkadeswhat does YP stand for?17:15
frayonce you've resolved all of the building issues, I'd encrouage you to package this into recipes and share.. but thats not required17:15
frayYocto Project17:15
frayuse the YP build environenment to build the SDK is what I've referring to17:15
cgkadesi built the sdk already17:16
frayok.. install it, source the environment files..17:16
fraylook at the content of the evnrionemnt files to see what you have..17:16
fraythere is some documentation in progress on the parameters, but I don't know if it was completed..17:16
cgkadescame out as iot-devkit-eglibc-x86_64-image-full-i586-toolchain-1.6.1.sh17:16
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frayyes, run that.. and install it17:17
cgkadesok, doing that now17:17
fraythat will contain your cross compiler (toolchain), sysroot and corresponding items17:17
cgkadescan you point me at a doc that explains how to use the cross compiler. I've never used one17:18
frayit works just like the regular compiler, but you need to setup your environment to make it easier..17:19
cgkadesok, so just create a dir for all my libs and applicatons. then source that and build as i normally would?17:19
frayI'm looking for the docs that were in progress17:20
yoctiBug 7133: enhancement, Medium+, 1.8 M3, scott.m.rifenbark, RESOLVED FIXED, Document environment file usage17:24
fraysee the comments in that bug, there are references to the YP 1.8 documentation.. it should be very similar to 1.6.1 that you are using17:25
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jaeckelI would like to put an rpm that is created by yocto into another rpm that is created by yocto, is there an easy way to reference to another package name within a recipe?17:31
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cgkadeswhere should i build the libraries that the other applications need? should it go into /opt/iot-devkit/1.6.1/sysroots/i586-poky-linux/?17:37
frayyou would build them "wherever", but yes.. once built.. you need to copy the headers and libraries into a sysroot.  You can certainly copy them into the one that is part of the SDK17:40
frayjust be careful you don't overwrite anything you don't intend to overwrite17:40
cgkadesit's just behaving strangely when i tried that ./libtool: line 1107: i586-poky-linux-ranlib: command not found17:41
cgkadesand setting my LD_LIBRARY_PATH to the location i installed the other libs isnt working.... i think i'm just going to turn off my computer and try again tomorrow.17:43
fraythen you did not source the environment17:43
cgkadesi did source the env17:43
frayecho $PATH17:44
fraycheck that something providing i586-poky-linux-ranlib is properly in your path17:44
cgkadesi missed the first /17:44
frayLook at /opt/iot-devkit/1.6.1/sysroots/x86_64-pokysdk-linux/usr/bin/i586-poky-linux17:45
fraywhat do you see there?17:45
cgkadesyou want me to copy and paste?17:45
fraythat path also looks like you have multiple SDKs or projects loaded at the same time17:45
frayuse pastebin..17:45
cgkadesi586-poky-linux-addr2line  i586-poky-linux-cpp      i586-poky-linux-gcc-ar      i586-poky-linux-gdb     i586-poky-linux-nm       i586-poky-linux-readelf17:46
cgkadesi586-poky-linux-ar         i586-poky-linux-elfedit  i586-poky-linux-gcc-nm      i586-poky-linux-gprof   i586-poky-linux-objcopy  i586-poky-linux-size17:46
cgkadesi586-poky-linux-as         i586-poky-linux-g++      i586-poky-linux-gcc-ranlib  i586-poky-linux-ld      i586-poky-linux-objdump  i586-poky-linux-strings17:46
cgkadesi586-poky-linux-c++filt    i586-poky-linux-gcc      i586-poky-linux-gcov        i586-poky-linux-ld.bfd  i586-poky-linux-ranlib   i586-poky-linux-strip17:46
cgkadesdang it17:46
fray:)  well the file being requested appears to be there..17:46
cgkadesi'll close the terminal and start fresh17:47
frayso it's most likely something with your overall system environment, or something specific to that one package17:47
frayone thing I've seen is some people have errant .bashrc's that hard code their PATH =.. so whens omethign starts a subshell it wipes out the inherited environment's PATH17:47
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cgkadesi'll look17:48
cgkadespath includes current path and an append17:49
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cgkadesstill fails17:53
fray"which i586-poky-linux-ranlib" should report the full path17:53
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frayif it does, try to run it via that path.. if you get the same error.. then your SDK has a problem with how it was constructed17:53
cgkadeswhcih resolves to the path, and then running it directly works17:54
fraythere are a couple of confusing messages when the dynamic loader fails...17:54
frayok.. then it's libtool.. or the thing trying to call libtool..  you'll have to trace it and figure out where it's going wrong17:54
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cgkadesand down the rabbit hole i go17:55
cgkadesit works fine if i use a different dest17:56
cgkadeser... a different --prefix=17:56
frayUsually I just define a local path for my builds and installs.. and just set hte --prefix= (and other arguments) there..17:57
frayeven better if you can use the default paths (see the environmetn files configure arguments).. and when you do the 'make install' redirect it to an alternative install location..17:57
fraythe problemw ith passing different --prefix= values to configure is many programs will end up embedded that into it17:58
cgkadesthat's what i did first. but then building one of the packages got angry that it couldnt find the libraries17:58
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cgkadesit may take an hour to compile on the galileo... but at least it works lol17:59
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kergothsigh, hitting sstate reuse problems again18:28
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cgkadesman, i'm banging my head against a wall on this one. "libgphoto2 requires libltdl (the libtool dl* library)," i have the libs in /opt/iot-devkit/1.6.1/sysroots/i586-poky-linux/lib and the headers in /opt/iot-devkit/1.6.1/sysroots/i586-poky-linux/include18:56
cgkadesall the other dependencies were able to configure and compile. but this one..18:56
kergothre-run libtoolize, perhaps?18:58
* kergoth shrugs18:58
cgkadesanything special to do? or just run it in my src/libgphoto2 dir?18:59
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cgkadesthis cross compile is driving me nuts19:02
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Xzhi guys, I submiteed an OpenCV patch for dylan 09 March 2015 - will it be integrated?19:12
kergotha common affliction19:12
Xz[oe] [meta-oe][dylan][PATCH] opencv: Update SRC_URI to use git19:13
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cgkadesany idea why running bitbake image-full for the second time doesn't build the bzImage?19:59
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usurerOne of my custom recipes for a library is having trouble during do_rootfs20:30
usurerI see the following errors: "error: Can't install [recipe-name]@[arch]: no package provides [library, runtime dependency].so()(64bit)"20:31
usurerThe runtime dependency is being built, but I suspect may not be getting packaged.  What's the best way to check and troubleshoot that?20:33
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cgkadesanyone know how to change the size it creates for the ext3 filesystem?20:55
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usurercgkates: I think setting IMAGE_ROOTFS_EXTRA_SPACE = "size" in local.conf will do it21:06
cgkadesi'll try that, thanks! is there a doc page that has all those extra settings?21:08
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usurerNot that I know of...  The default rootfs size on my end is 65536, so try going larger than that.21:10
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cgkadesit's only allowing for like 50M of free space as it is.. so i can't install anything21:12
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cgkadeslooks like it might be in here http://www.yoctoproject.org/docs/current/ref-manual/ref-manual.html21:18
-YoctoAutoBuilder- build #240 of nightly-x86 is complete: Failure [failed BuildImages_1] Build details are at http://autobuilder.yoctoproject.org/main/builders/nightly-x86/builds/24021:18
cgkadesspecifically http://www.yoctoproject.org/docs/current/ref-manual/ref-manual.html#var-IMAGE_ROOTFS_EXTRA_SPACE21:19
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