Wednesday, 2015-04-29

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-YoctoAutoBuilder- build #275 of nightly-qa-skeleton is complete: Success [build successful] Build details are at http://autobuilder.yoctoproject.org/main/builders/nightly-qa-skeleton/builds/27500:50
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-YoctoAutoBuilder- build #274 of nightly-x32 is complete: Success [build successful] Build details are at http://autobuilder.yoctoproject.org/main/builders/nightly-x32/builds/27401:26
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-YoctoAutoBuilder- build #271 of build-appliance is complete: Success [build successful] Build details are at http://autobuilder.yoctoproject.org/main/builders/build-appliance/builds/27101:39
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redengingood evening06:50
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bluelightningmorning all08:23
redenginmorning08:25
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lpappgood morning08:34
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lpappbluelightning: is it possible to easily tell Yocto that I want to build some specific software from recipe by a different toolchain than what Yocto is using?09:48
lpappi.e. if some software does not build with the new toolchain that Yocto ships, people could still update, but for that particular software, they would use the good old toolchain that just works.09:48
redenginlpapp, which toolchain gcc?09:49
bluelightninglpapp: there is http://openembedded.org/wiki/Adding_a_secondary_toolchain09:49
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bluelightninglpapp: absolutely no guarantees you will get it to work, but it's there09:49
lpappinteresting09:49
lpappthanks, I will have a look.09:51
lpapp"In addition related components such as gdb, cross-prelink, mklibs and others provider additional toolchain functionality." -> hmm, that is probably a typo.09:51
redenginlpapp, which toolchain are you using?09:52
redenginI especially want to know if its microsoft based09:52
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redenginI submitted some code, but it failed under a microsoft compiler....   I think its my use of class initializers without a constructor09:54
lpappredengin: I want to build the linux kernel with dylan's toolchain inside daisy.10:01
redenginah, I see10:03
redengindid the link give you enough info?10:03
lpappI will read it soon in details.10:05
lpappbut it makes me feel uncomfortable to use since it is not in the official reference manual.10:05
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bluelightningwell, we hope not to be in situations where this kind of thing is necessary10:18
redenginwhat is gained by the dylan toolchain?10:19
bluelightninglpapp is doing this solely to work around what appears to be a bug, root-causing and fixing that bug is what ought to be done10:19
redenginare we talking about the gcc linus anger?10:20
lpappno10:20
lpappthis predates that10:20
lpapp(I think)10:20
lpappand yes, bluelightning is correct that it is a workaround10:21
lpappdo not have the expertise for the real solution, unfortunately.10:21
lpappnor the funding to hire contractors at this point.10:21
bluelightningthere is one other thing you could try - you could appeal for help on the mailing list10:22
bluelightningin case someone else has dealt with the same situation10:22
lpappsure, I was going to do that, but of course without any expectation.10:22
lpappit is possible that someone replies in an hour, but it is also possible that I never hear anything back from the TI guys.10:23
bluelightningyou'd have to describe the problem from scratch in detail - exact kernel version, gcc version, target platform, what you tried in order to work around the issue, etc.10:23
lpappin either case, I need to proceed with my project.10:23
lpappso if something turns up, we will switch the strategy.10:23
lpappbut we cannot rely on that at this point.10:23
lpappyes, I agree.10:23
lpappthat is why I did not do it yet.10:23
lpappit is 1-2 hours of work to properly write everything down.10:24
lpappand then of course there is the chance that many people will skip it as tl;dr10:24
bluelightningsure, but there's a chance you will get a fix that is simpler than the workaround10:24
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lpappI thought this separate layer would be simple to implement?10:26
redenginlpapp, send a link to your layer so that I can see what you fixed10:27
lpappredengin: our layer is not open source I am afraid.10:28
lpappbut I do not have any fix either to be honest.10:28
lpappI am just creating this new toolchain layer as I have to.10:28
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lpappbluelightning: at least I asked around in #gcc and #kernelnewbies. That was a good start.10:40
JEEBsvhmm, what's the correct way to make wic to use the label (or PARTUUID) as the root fs parameter10:41
bluelightningJEEBsv: I don't have an answer to your question but FWIW I did enter a bug to cover your earlier feature request: https://bugzilla.yoctoproject.org/show_bug.cgi?id=767210:44
yoctiBug 7672: enhancement, Undecided, ---, eduard.bartosh, NEW , Allow automating running wic from the build system10:44
JEEBsvthanks10:44
JEEBsvwill have to dig deeper into scripts then10:46
JEEBsvseems like root_part_uuid is available in the EFI config creating script, but not used10:54
JEEBsvpcbios script seems to be doing the same10:55
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lpappI wonder how many people use this secondary toolchain option?11:33
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JEEBsvis there documentation on the wks file format available?11:48
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bluelightningJEEBsv: it's borrowed from Red Hat kickstart, so any documentation that exists for that ought to apply12:01
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JEEBsvokies...12:04
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lpappbluelightning: what is the difference between Per recipe selection of toolchain usage12:11
lpappand Blacklist/Whitelist12:12
bluelightninglpapp: I really don't know anything about the contents of that page, I've never used it12:12
otavioFido is failing in a weird way12:12
otaviohttp://ci.ossystems.com.br/job/fsl-community-bsp-fido/23/console12:12
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otaviodo someone has any idea what might be causing it?12:12
lpapphmm, who knows?12:13
lpappthe quit redengin?12:14
lpappwho is mhatle?12:14
bluelightninglpapp: mhatle is Mark Hatle (fray)12:15
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lpappfray: oh hello :)12:17
lpappbluelightning: thanks12:18
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lpappfray: can you give me some guidance with this, e.g. a working example?13:06
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ciprian-barbuhello all, quick question, is it possible to write a bbappend that specifies a different place from where to download a package?13:32
JaMayes13:33
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ciprian-barbusomething like modifying SRC_URI but not override it entirely?13:33
kergotha bbappend basically concatenates to the recipe. anything done in the recipe can be done in a bbappend, the only exception being _remove, which can't be undone13:33
ciprian-barbukergoth: I need to modify this recipe: https://git.yoctoproject.org/cgit/cgit.cgi/meta-virtualization/tree/recipes-networking/openvswitch/openvswitch_2.1.3.bb13:34
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ciprian-barbukergoth: but instead of http://openvswitch.org/releases/openvswitch-${PV}.tar.gz  I need my own version of openvswitch, but at the same time keeping everything else in SRC_URI13:35
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kergothyou'd want to use either anonymous or inline python to alter it, either using oe_filter_out() to remove the current one, and then add yours, or use .replace() on the string13:36
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bluelightningthere is also externalsrc, if you are trying to point it at local in-development source13:44
lpappkergoth: are you familiar with this secondary toolchin?13:50
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ciprian-barbuthank you, I will try these suggestions13:52
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lpappbluelightning: I can hear you ...14:01
lpappbluelightning: this is so underdocumented as well old stuff that asking on the gcc and the linux kernel mailing lists might be more productive.14:01
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bluelightninglpapp: I was thinking of our mailing list as a start, but possibly those too yes14:02
lpappyou do not have many gcc and kernel hackers?14:02
lpappand this issue can be produced without Yocto, too?14:03
lpapp(remember that I reproduced it with the Linaro toolchain yesterday)14:03
lpapp(without using Yocto to look that out as the root cause)14:03
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bluelightningah sorry, I missed that bit14:05
bluelightningthat would definitely open it to a wider audience14:05
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bluelightningwe may not have many people that hack on gcc itself, but there may well be others who had to deal with the issue if you did14:06
lpappfair enough14:08
lpappthe yocto community  does not just mean Intel14:08
lpappand the creators14:09
lpappI guess there are also company people following the list14:09
lpappwho could speak up14:09
lpappgood idea :)14:09
-YoctoAutoBuilder- build #284 of poky-tiny is complete: Failure [failed UploadToasterEventlog] Build details are at http://autobuilder.yoctoproject.org/main/builders/poky-tiny/builds/28414:12
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kergothlpapp: nope, never messed with it, sorry14:22
lpappok, np, thanks for getting back to me.14:23
lpappbluelightning: my concern about this secondary toolchain is the fact that I cannot see examples.14:26
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bluelightninglpapp: sure, understood14:35
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JEEBsvI guess I was overoptimistic regarding --ptable=gpt actually working14:41
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kergothgah, systemd implicitly pulls in valgrind/valgrind.h if it exists, no configure argument to disable it, will need to fix that to get deterministic builds14:45
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kergothhmm15:27
kergothdoesn't link against it, though, so shouldn't cause a huge problem, so why did my build fail..15:28
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kergothsuppose its possible there was a race, valgrind being cleaned and rebuilt due to a task change causing the header to vanish momentarily, after the detection in configure but before the use in compile15:29
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bluelightningkergoth: right, that's a common presentation of a race in our system15:32
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khem`bluelightning: there ?16:28
khem`bluelightning: I tries PACKAGE_DEBUG_SPLIT_STYLE = "debug-without-src" in local.conf16:28
bluelightningkhem`: yep16:28
khem`seems to have no effect16:28
khem`oh I am looking at sstate size reduction. should that happen as well ?16:29
khem`or just the -dbg packages ?16:29
bluelightningI'd expect some of the sstate packages to get smaller yes16:29
khem`I am dealing with huge sstate artifacts for chromium16:30
khem`chrome binrary is 1.6G before strip16:30
bluelightningI can't tell you offhand why it wouldn't have worked16:30
khem`and it gets into three sstate artifacts16:30
khem`daisy is what I am at16:30
khem`and it should have worked there too as I see16:31
kergothugh, systemd change ripples through quite a lot of recipes16:32
* kergoth waits on rebuilds16:32
otavioIt seems something is broken in sysroot for libtool16:33
otaviohttp://ci.ossystems.com.br/job/fsl-community-bsp-fido/23/console16:33
otavioThis shows up in a clean tmp from sstate-cache build16:33
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maelcumJaMa: hello. i see that you have two patches about license files / checksums in qtwebchannel 5.4.1 in jansa/master. those changes unbreak qtwebchannel 5.4.1. i suggest merging them to master :)16:42
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kergothhuh, looks like github recognizes bitbake as a language / filetype now. never noticed that. nice16:46
kergothhttps://github.com/MentorEmbedded/meta-mentor/search?l=bitbake16:46
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bluelightningkergoth: so we're no longer BlitzBasic? awesome...16:47
kergothindeed16:47
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kergothno syntax highlighting of course, but at least it's the right type16:47
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JaMamaelcum: I plan to merge it today (waiting for 5.4.2 git recipes to verify more patches)16:51
maelcumJaMa: okay, thanks!16:51
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otavioI sent the log information to the mailing list16:58
otaviobut it is puzzling me16:58
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JaMamaelcum: merged17:16
JaMato master as well as fido17:16
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lpappbluelightning: should I choose openembedded-core or something else for the mailing list about the inquiry?17:24
bluelightninglpapp: yeah the OE-Core list should work17:25
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manuel_hi, we have a bunch of jenkins jobs building our yocto images depending on the git branch they are pushed to. I would like to create a file in the resulting image that contains that git branch name and revision.17:29
manuel_what is the best way to access evironment variables from the overall build process inside recipes?17:30
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kergothhave you ever actually read a recipe?17:33
manuel_yes, i guess?17:35
manuel_ok i think BB_ENV_EXTRAWHITE is what i was looking for17:36
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armpitJaMa, ping17:40
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T0mWdoes this work: "do_install_append_append ()" ?18:08
bluelightningT0mW: no, just do do_install_append()18:09
bluelightning_appends stack up18:09
T0mWbah18:09
T0mWheh18:09
bluelightningi.e. they don't overwrite eachother, if that's what you were trying to avoid18:09
T0mWOH! got it.18:09
T0mWthen concatonate18:09
bluelightningyep18:09
T0mWthey concatonate18:09
T0mWtnx18:10
kergoththink of _append/_prepend as being operators, like .= and =., not as names18:12
kergotheven though they're part of the name :)18:12
kergoth(sort of018:12
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T0mWyeah, I just realized if you had an 'append_append_append' and deleted the 'append_append' that it would break the 'append_append_append', heh18:23
JaMaarmpit: pong18:23
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armpitJaMa, did you ever seem my patch for meta-oe "[PATCH 00/33 v2][master] meta-oe misc build fixes" or did I send it to the wrong list or something else?18:36
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JaMaarmpit: I don't remember seeing it in ML or on patchwork18:42
JaMabut it's here http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.comp.handhelds.openembedded/6848918:43
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JaMaarmpit:  ok it's in spam :/18:44
armpitk, so should I resend after rebasing ?18:44
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JaMayes please (at least to test if gmail learned from "not spam"18:45
armpitso did having [master] in the subject do that?18:45
JaMaAndrea was also reporting that many oe-devel e-mails ended in spam folder :/18:46
JaMaunfortunately the same is probably happening with patchwork account18:46
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abelloniotavio: do you also have issues with repo ?18:50
JaMaarmpit: do I still need something from "[PATCH 00/20 V2][Dizzy-next]" It was also in spam :/18:52
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JaMaarmpit: I've rebased your branch and merged it to master-next19:03
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JaMaarmpit: when resending please send patches as well as cover letter so that we can review on e-mail ("opencv: build issue" looks wrong)19:06
JaMayou don't need to inherit blacklist and you should set COMMERCIAL_LICENSE instead of PNBLACKLIST19:06
JaMaLICENSE_FLAGS = "commercial"19:07
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armpitk19:12
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JaMaarmpit: also the bash/perl/python RDEPENDS can be NAKed by people who care more about the image size than some random unused script which happens to be included in PN (in many cases the proper fix is to move the unused script to separate package and add the RDEPENDS only there)19:15
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otavioabelloni: no, why?19:24
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zerusHi. I have a patch (generated by using git-format-patch) that I try to apply on the kernel. But for some reason this specific patch isn't applied, but the build itself is succesful and I can apply it manually without any warning/errors (using devshell). My other patches are applied correct, only differences I'm aware of is that this patch is 'cherry-picked' from the beginning and the others are made from scratch. Any ideas where to start tr19:28
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abelloniotavio: it screws up the path to my git repositories19:28
abellonilike:19:29
abellonifatal: 'hub.com/Freescale/meta-fsl-arm-extra' does not appear to be a git repository19:29
abellonifatal: 'hub.com/meta-qt5/meta-qt5' does not appear to be a git repository19:29
abellonifatal: Could not read from remote repository.19:29
abelloniI don't know why, it strips "git" from all paths19:30
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DS___I'm using a layer from someone else that has a machine and some recipes with compatible_machine associated with that machine. I'd like to change something in the machine_name.conf file from that layer, but I'd prefer not to change any files in that layer. Is it possible to make an append to a machine, or what is the best approach to do this?19:47
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DS___I just found out about MACHINEOVERRIDES. Maybe that is an elegant way to fix the problem? I can define a new machine in my layer with the modified values and then add the previous machine name to this overrides19:52
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pumpernickelI'm trying to add packages to an image.20:00
pumpernickelWithout using the local.conf, and failing miserably.20:00
pumpernickelIt's not clear to me which images you're allowed to inherit from, and which you aren't.20:00
pumpernickelMy understanding is that to add packages to an image, the proper way to do it is to create a new image.20:01
pumpernickelSo my layer has an xxx-image.bb20:01
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pumpernickelI added a package-group recipe as well.20:04
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pumpernickelThen, I try to add my packages into my image.bb recipe20:04
pumpernickelFEATURE_PACKAGES_blah = "packagegroup-xxx"20:05
DS___pumpernickel you can only inherit from classes (.bbclass) files20:06
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DS___Have you tried adding to IMAGE_INSTALL?20:07
DS___IMAGE_INSTALL += "package_name"20:07
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pumpernickelI have not, but let's say I have core-image-minimal.20:08
pumpernickelI want to add packages to that image.20:08
pumpernickelIt doesn't appear that I can inherit from it, how do I get that list of packages + my own?20:09
DS___The way I do is to find the core-image-minimal.bb file, just copy and paste it into another image file, and then add from there.20:10
DS___I'm not an yocto expert by any means (started using it been ~2 weeks), but that's how I found that core-image-minimal and core-image-base worked20:11
DS___To me one inherited from the other, but they're two different images20:11
pumpernickelHmm, okay.20:11
pumpernickelI suppose I need to go back through the manual exhaustively.20:12
DS___Read the core-image-* files in the core layer20:12
pumpernickelI've read big chunks of it, but not in a linear fashion.20:12
DS___It's easier20:12
pumpernickelLargely because I didn't understand a lot of what it was talking about on some sections until later.20:12
DS___You'll see that none of them inherit from others. They all inherit from core-image, which is a bbclass20:12
DS___That's the same feeling I still have sometimes when I start looking for stuff :)20:12
pumpernickelI am very new to this as well.20:13
pumpernickelThanks for your help.20:13
pumpernickelI may do exactly that.20:13
DS___I've learned a lot by just going through the files and following the inherits, requires and all of that as well20:13
pumpernickelIs it your understanding that this is the proper way to add packages to an image?20:13
DS___Not only the manual20:13
pumpernickelI mean, am I even going down the right path, or am I doing things in a bone-headed way?20:14
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pumpernickelThat's the thing that bothers me the most.20:14
pumpernickelI feel like I could be going completely against the spirit of the project.20:14
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pumpernickelHmm, I suppose I need to do more of that.20:14
pumpernickelI've done some.20:14
DS___From what I've understood in the way images were built, that seems to be the way. I'm not sure if that's the proper way, I also would like an input from someone.20:15
DS___I often come here asking about the best approach to do things I want to do20:15
pumpernickelI've also looked into some of the core image.bb files.20:16
pumpernickelPart of my issue there, was I didn't know what a lot of the stuff meant.20:16
DS___But something that I keep in mind is to start doing stuff, that's the only way you'll learn more about it. Then you can go back and look for the best approaches to what you've done. That will require a lot of rewriting and redoing, but it's good for learning20:16
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pumpernickelI should also mention that I started working with poky 1.8, and was then forced to go back and use angstrom, which seems to be based on 1.6.20:17
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pumpernickelYeah, haha20:17
pumpernickelI must have rewritten my recipes 20 times!20:17
pumpernickelI've actually considered writing a script to generate them from a template!20:17
DS___The manuals have explanations for each of the variables used in yocto, so whenever you find something you don't understand, you can always look it up20:18
pumpernickelIn particular, I wrote them for 1.8, but going back, I a lot of recipes didn't work the same way.20:18
DS___Gotcha. I've never worked on 1.6, so I can't say20:19
pumpernickelI've tried to do that as well, until I realized that the layers are pretty much infinitely flexible, I didn't really grasp the implications of the variables.20:19
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DS___Yeah, I know what you mean20:20
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pumpernickelBut I go into things like angstrom-image.bb, and it has lines: "[Match]\nName=en*\n\n[Network]\nDHCP=yes" etc20:20
pumpernickelAnd I hadn't even seen those types of rules before.20:20
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pumpernickelAnyway, just venting a bit. Thanks again for your help.20:21
DS___That is new to me20:21
DS___You're welcome20:21
DS___I've received a lot of help here, I'm just giving it back20:21
DS___:)20:21
pumpernickelI've been in and out of here on occasion.20:22
pumpernickelI seem to have a problem catching people most days.20:22
pumpernickelI think I end up in here too late in the day for most regulars.\20:23
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otavioant_home: uh?!21:16
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ant_homehi21:21
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darknighteanyone know the current level of support for the Galileo 2 board?21:30
darknightein meta-intel-galileo, of course.21:30
darknightelast commit was 3 mos ago.21:31
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darknightewarthog9: poke poke, you know the answer to my question ^^^ ?21:35
kergothfray: planning on re-submitting the split debug fs support now that we're past the 1.8 release?21:36
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warthog9darknighte: don't know sadly21:41
warthog9darknighte: I can go poke some folks if you really want?21:41
darknightewarthog9: sure, if you would.21:43
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darknightewarthog9: looks like brendan already responded to my email query, so nm.21:44
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warthog9darknighte: done and done :-)22:31
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* darknighte notices that galileo boad should be here by next week22:57
darknightewoot22:57
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