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| awsation_ | hi all, I want to use the runqemu command on a built image, but I want to start the VM with two vNICs instead of the default one. Is that possible? | 03:47 |
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| kergoth | you can specify any custom arguments to be passed to qemu with qemuparams="..." | 04:19 |
| kergoth | see the qemu documentation for what to pass it | 04:19 |
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| qknight | hey. just hit an build error with http://paste.ubuntu.com/12816775/ <- eglibc/eglibc_2.19.bb and this issue: | Makefile:91: *** OPTION_EGLIBC_NSSWITCH_FIXED_CONFIG variable left unset. Stop. | 11:09 |
| qknight | anyone an idea how to fix that? i'm on daisy | 11:10 |
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| frobar | is there some consistency to what bar refers to in FOO_bar, or is it all ad-hoc? | 17:03 |
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| kergoth | frobar: Not sure what you mean by that. FOO_bar is a variable name. If bar is listed in OVERRIDES, then it's seen as an override, so the value of that variable would overwrite FOO. If not, it'd be left as is. | 19:09 |
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| frobar | kergoth: i mean in the sense that the _bar part sometimes seems to be a machine, sometimes an architecture, sometimes a recipe name, sometimes something else... | 19:35 |
| kergoth | read meta/conf/bitbake.conf | 19:35 |
| frobar | depending on the particular variable | 19:35 |
| kergoth | the value of the OVERRIDES variable | 19:35 |
| kergoth | it's not inconsistent, again, it's the values in overrides | 19:35 |
| kergoth | OVERRIDES is conceptually a layering mechanism of specificity which also supports our orthogonal distro, machine, and image axes. It allows the distro to exert its preferences in the metadata, and allows more specific knowledge of the target to be used in preference to less specific knowledge of the target. _<machine> is used in preferences to _<arch> which is used in preference to the base value, for example, because that knowledge is more specific, | 19:37 |
| kergoth | and more likely to be accurate. | 19:37 |
| kergoth | if you look at the include files pulled in by bitbake.conf, it's basically the same things overrides has | 19:37 |
| kergoth | the order of elements in overrides reflects the specificity i mentioned. forcevariable will override anything else, to let the user override anything set anywhere in the metadata if they want to | 19:39 |
| kergoth | the yocto project documentation covers overrides as well, i believe | 19:39 |
| frobar | so when bitbake sees something like "FOO_bar = ...", it checks if "bar" appears in OVERRIDES, and does the assignment if so? | 19:40 |
| frobar | to make it a bit more concrete :P | 19:40 |
| kergoth | no, FOO_bar is a valid variable in its own right | 19:40 |
| kergoth | if bar is in overrides, then FOO_bar replaces FOO | 19:40 |
| kergoth | otherwise it'd be left as is | 19:40 |
| kergoth | the bitbake manual covers this as well | 19:41 |
| frobar | does FOO_bar = "baz" do something like FOO_bar = "baz"; if "bar" is in OVERRIDES: FOO = "baz";? | 19:42 |
| frobar | or FOO = FOO_bar... | 19:42 |
| kergoth | yes, FOO would be "baz" in that case | 19:48 |
| kergoth | replacing any existing value with FOO_bar's value | 19:48 |
| kergoth | it's really just a way of defining values conditionally | 19:48 |
| kergoth | we don't have if statements in our file format, but we have this | 19:48 |
| frobar | yeah, i got the point. just didn't know the underlying mechanism. looks like OVERRIDES is it then, and that you can specify different types of things after _. | 19:49 |
| kergoth | the thing is, the override separator (_) is also valid in variable names. just because you used an _ doesn't mean it'll do anything, unless the right side of it is listed in OVERRIDES :) | 19:51 |
| kergoth | foo_bar_baz could just be the name of a variable, no conditionals involved at all | 19:51 |
| frobar | yeah, that makes sense | 19:51 |
| frobar | second confusion: is S meant as a way for the user (recipe writer) to tell yocto where stuff ends up after it is unpacked? | 19:53 |
| frobar | with the "base" directory for unpacking always being WORKDIR | 19:53 |
| frobar | i found it weird that recipes would assign to S at first, but if that's it, then it kinda makes sense... | 19:53 |
| kergoth | yep, that's exactly what it is, we don't examine the tarball contents, so we need to know where it ends up | 20:00 |
| kergoth | in hindsight, we should have had code to be able to strip off the leading directory from the tarball contents, and just put that into S rather than having to tell it where the tarball wants it | 20:00 |
| frobar | i interpreted S as an output variable at first. then it got real confusing. :) | 20:02 |
| frobar | output to the recipe writer that is | 20:03 |
| * kergoth nods, no, it's describing the input | 20:04 | |
| frobar | where do the default do_* functions come from? are they built into bitbake, or is there some inheritance thing going on? | 20:08 |
| kergoth | everything is defined in the metadata | 20:09 |
| kergoth | not much is implicit. bitbake parses bblayers.conf and layer.conf from each layer in BBLAYERS, then it parses bitbake.conf, then it parses base.bbclass and every other bbclass listed in the INHERIT variable | 20:09 |
| kergoth | base.bbclass defines most of the base functions | 20:09 |
| frobar | ok | 20:10 |
| kergoth | there's a good writeup on the basics of how bitbake works in a book that elizabeth flanigan wrote up that you might find interesting, covers some of the high level concepts and history - http://www.aosabook.org/en/yocto.html | 20:11 |
| frobar | i like working "bottom-up" at least. i find it hard to understand high-level stuff if i don't understand the implementation. | 20:12 |
| kergoth | fair enough | 20:12 |
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| frobar | if D is ${WORKDIR}/image, then it seems it would be unique per package. does that mean that every package that puts things into e.g. /usr/bin needs to create those directories? | 21:14 |
| frobar | and how are all the different Ds then merged to create the rootfs? | 21:14 |
| frobar | seems it'd get messy as directory permissions could differ for different /usr's for example :/ | 21:14 |
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