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bluelightningmorning all07:26
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_4urele_Hi all07:38
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_4urele_I have a team mate which is using the sdk, he is modifying a library which exists in the sdk, so to my mind he should modify his local sdk, or is there another option? (installing in another directory and tell the system to look into it)07:40
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LetoThe2nd_4urele_: the buzzword answer would be: use the extensible sdk :)07:51
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fredcadeteLetoThe2nd: is the extensible sdk added in yocto 1.8 or 1.9?07:55
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LetoThe2ndfredcadete: added in 1.8 and usable from 2.0 on, if i understood it correctly.07:56
fredcadetethanks07:58
LetoThe2ndfredcadete: maybe http://events.linuxfoundation.org/sites/events/files/slides/yocto_project_dev_workflow_elc_2015_0.pdf helps a bit07:59
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_4urele_LetoThe2nd, thanks I will look this extensible sdk08:05
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gatispHi. If I want to report a bug for a recipe, does it go under Product: Layers, Component: Layers? I did not see any components that would say "recipe". in bugzilla.yoctoproject.org08:12
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jkugatisp: if it's a oe-core recipe then product "OE-Core", and pick a component that's a close match08:20
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gatispjku, ok, i will check. it is from "meta-openembedded"08:23
jkugatisp: most of the meta-oe layers are not handled in yocto bugzilla (because they're not really part of yocto). Check the layer readme08:25
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bluelightningright, we don't track bugs in meta-openembedded layers in the YP bugzilla08:27
bluelightningunless they are a direct result of an issue in OE-Core or bitbake08:28
bluelightning(in which case the bug would be about that underlying issue)08:28
gatispinteresting, the read me file says "Send patches / pull requests to openembedded-devel@lists.openembedded.org"08:29
gatispso there is no way to report bugs, just send patches :)08:29
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ericbuttershello. i facing some problems using nativesdk. see my nativesdk-commonapi_2.6.1.bb recipe here http://paste.ubuntu.com/12796856/ the link also provides the directory structure in tmp-glibc/work/x86_64-nativesdk-oesdk-linux/nativesdk-commonapi/2.1.6-r0 -- the expected folders under sysroot-providers are not present.. i do not find the files in the sdk after running populate_sdk08:31
ericbuttersplease, support me here :)08:32
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bluelightninggatisp: you can report issues via that mailing list as well08:33
ericbuttersline 18 is test/ not ttt/08:33
gatispbluelightning, I will send a mail to maintainers of that layer08:34
bluelightningericbutters: is your recipe called nativesdk-commonapi or commonapi? if the latter, the name is wrong - BBCLASSEXTEND will add that prefix for you when it creates the nativesdk variant of the recipe08:34
bluelightningericbutters: er, the former, I meant08:35
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ericbuttersit is called nativesdk_commonapi08:35
bluelightning_ or - ?08:35
ericbuttersnativesdk-commonapi08:35
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ericbutterssry08:35
bluelightningthat's not correct then08:35
ericbuttersshould it be named commonapi?08:36
bluelightningeither rename it to commonapi, or instead inherit nativesdk rather than BBCLASSEXTENDing to nativesdk, then you need the native- prefix08:36
bluelightninger, nativesdk-08:36
ericbuttersnative- ? not nativesdk- ?08:36
ericbuttersah08:36
bluelightningno, I mistyped, sorry... lack of sleep :/08:36
ericbuttersi tried that but that did not work also08:36
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ericbuttersso my recipe seems to be okay?08:37
ericbuttersthe content?08:37
ericbuttersi try to rename to commonapi and use BBCLASSEXTEND08:37
LetoThe2ndbluelightning: a developer suffering lack of sleep? how unbelievable!08:37
bluelightningericbutters: I can't immediately tell08:38
bluelightningericbutters: at this stage, what's going into image/ is of interest rather than sysroot-destdir08:38
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ericbuttersbluelightning: the recipe is named commonapi-nativesdk_2.1.6.bb -- i changed to inherit nativesdk -- and i call "bitbake nativesdk-commonapi" -> in image/ i got the stuff i copied in do_install_append_class-nativesdk08:48
bluelightninger08:49
bluelightningmaking nativesdk a suffix isn't right either08:49
bluelightningI'm sure it's in there, the question is is it under the correct path?08:50
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ericbutterstherefore i copy the content twice, i see it in image like: http://paste.ubuntu.com/12797016/08:52
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raykinsella78Morning fols08:58
ericbuttersbluelightning: therefore i copy the content twice, i see it in image like: http://paste.ubuntu.com/12797016/ can you provide a simple example that just copies a text file into the nativesdk to usr/test?08:58
ericbuttersbluelightning: thanks for support08:59
bluelightningericbutters: I can't off the top of my head, but there must be such an example in the metadata08:59
bluelightningin existing recipes, I mean08:59
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bananadevericbutters: in your recipe, I see you use ${D}/usr. I think it should be ${D}${prefix}09:03
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ericbuttersbananadev: bluelightning: here is a more basic example: http://paste.ubuntu.com/12797209/ please find in that link my basic recipe and how i call -- and the result in the work directory09:15
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ericbuttersbananadev: bluelightning: populate_sdk then ends with error: Unknown package 'nativesdk-ericbutters' -- i added to my image to TOOLCHAIN_HOST_TASK_append: nativesdk-ericbutters09:30
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bananadevyou mean you can bitbake nativesdk-ericbutters success but not meta-toolchain ?09:41
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bananadevDid you try rename your recipe to nativesdk-erricbutters_1.0.bb09:41
bananadevI mean nativesdk-ericbutters_1.0.bb09:42
bluelightningindeed, I mentioned moving nativesdk to a suffix wasn't right above...09:45
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joshuaglbluelightning: hey, around?10:00
joshuaglbluelightning: I have recently run across something that may be worth noting in the "porting to Jethro" guide10:00
joshuaglbluelightning: http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/wayland-devel/2015-June/022548.html10:00
bluelightningjoshuagl: hmm, interesting - would you be able to word a small note in the form we might need it for the migration guide and send / paste it to me?10:02
ericbuttersbananadev: bluelightning: okay, i renamed to nativesdk-ericbutters_1.0.bb but populate_sdk still ends with error, pls see here: http://paste.ubuntu.com/12797465/10:02
joshuaglbluelightning: sure, I'm just about to step AFK so may forget. Please remind me if I do10:03
joshuaglbluelightning: happy to supply something as a git patch if easier?10:03
ericbuttersbut, i only see *-dbg and *-dev in deploy-ipks/x86_64-nativesdk so thats why right?10:03
bluelightningjoshuagl: Scott usually likes to do the final formatting, so I usually send him the raw material and let him take care of putting it into the doc10:04
joshuaglbluelightning: ack10:04
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bluelightningericbutters: right, whatever you're installing is not being packaged10:10
bluelightningericbutters: normally you would see a warning to that effect10:10
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Ox4hello internet10:18
Ox4I am trying to install my scripts, but I don't see fetched 'System' directory :-( Here is the recipe of mine: http://dpaste.com/1NQD7MV10:19
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ericbuttersbluelightning: got it! i only use {PN} for PACKAGES and and FILES.. thanks!10:26
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Ox4wow it doesn't fetch the sripts o_O\10:43
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Ox4guys, could somebody help me with this one: http://dpaste.com/2Y5MFTV ?11:23
Ox4why the scripts were not be fetched?11:23
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fl0v0Ox4: which recipe?11:40
Ox4fl0v0:11:43
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Ox4<ericbutters> bluelightning: got it! i only use {PN} for PACKAGES and and11:43
Ox4      FILES.. thanks!  [13:26]11:43
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Ox4<Ox4> wow it doesn't fetch the sripts o_O\  [13:43]11:43
Ox4-YoctoAutoBuilder- build #519 of nightly-multilib is complete: Success [build11:43
Ox4 successful]  Build details are at11:43
Ox4 http://autobuilder.yoctoproject.org/main/builders/nightly-multilib/builds/51911:43
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bluelightningthe recipe looks like it ought to work... I'm assuming the repeated semicolons aren't causing a problem11:44
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Ox4<Ox4> guys, could somebody help me with this one: http://dpaste.com/2Y5MFTV ?11:45
Ox4        [14:23]11:45
Ox4<Ox4> why the scripts were not be fetched?11:45
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Ox4<fl0v0> Ox4: which recipe?  [14:40]11:45
Ox411:45
Ox4oops11:45
Ox4sorry guys, I miss button :-(11:45
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bluelightningit's alright, I once pasted a private discussion into a public IRC channel11:46
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Aethenellebluelightning: ouch11:46
Aethenellehopefuly the channel wasn't logged...11:46
Ox4fl0v0: http://dpaste.com/1NQD7MV11:47
bluelightningluckily there was nothing especially private in there, it was just a bit embarrassing11:47
Ox4fl0v0: but if I manually download scripts to the System directory the recipe is executed successfully11:47
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fl0v0Ox4: beats me. the scripts are normally checked out when you clone into the repo manually? Dont see why that shouldn't work11:55
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Ox4fl0v0: yes11:59
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bluelightningOx4: well, FWIW I just tested subpath= here and it did what I expected it to12:02
Ox4bluelightning: does it fetch all stuff?12:06
bluelightningit fetched everything in the subpath I specified to a directory of the same name yes12:07
fl0v0Ox4: does it fetch the right revision? I didnt know about AUTOREV but maybe that messes up12:09
mcfriskIn bbappend, can some packages/regexs override/conflict in FILES_${PN}? Trying move some bins into a test package but main package is holding on to them.12:25
bluelightningmcfrisk: how are you adding the test package to PACKAGES?12:31
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mcfriskbluelightning: qtbase from meta-qt5, I'm bbappending some more examples and trying to push them to separate binary package. So FILES_${PN} from qt5.inc seems to override my bbappend with FILES_${PN}-tests12:34
bluelightningmcfrisk: I guess what I was driving at is where exactly is the package in PACKAGES in relation to ${PN}12:35
bluelightningif it comes after then it's not surprising the main package picks up the files still because its FILES value will match them first12:36
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ryanstur1erif I don't want to use the fetcher, and simply want to fetch code myself by my own means12:45
ryanstur1erI just don't declare a SRC_URI and implement my own do_fetch12:45
ryanstur1erright?12:45
bluelightningif you feel you must yes... but it's very rare to need to do that12:49
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tasslehoffis there a construct for adding lines to ld.so.conf ?13:15
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tasslehoffcause files in ld.so.conf.d are not included unless ld.so.conf says so?13:20
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frayinclude /etc/ld.so.conf.d/*   usually13:27
fray[mhatle@msp-dhcp23 trunk]$ cat /etc/ld.so.conf13:27
frayinclude ld.so.conf.d/*.conf13:27
fraythats the line from a RHEL machinef or instance13:27
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bluelightningseveral people have asked why we don't do that out of the box13:29
bluelightningI don't know that there has been a satisfactory answer13:29
frayanswer is that many of our systems simply don't ever use ld.so.cache..13:30
fraysecondary reason -- so far it's VERY rare that you (as the -system- developer need to ever put an entry into ld.so.conf (let alone create ld.so.conf.d/*.conf entries)13:31
fraywe want to actually discourage that behavior -- as it usually means broken system items..13:31
fray(ld.so.cache is often used as a crutch for broken libraries that do not have proper filename/sonames... so the RTLD (ld.so) can't find them w/o the cache)13:32
fraythe other piece is for libraries installed into non-standard locations..  but they shouldn't be cached, because the point of non-standard locations is to keep them outside of the regular loading namespace..13:32
frayso if you suddenly cache them -- they are now availabel globally..13:32
fray"just say no"13:32
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fray(another way to look at it -- if the system requires ldconfig to have run -- you have a broken system..  if you are running it as a performance improvement.. GREAT!  that is what it is there for)13:33
bluelightningok, perhaps I'd overestimated how often people would need to poke at that13:36
bluelightningthanks for the detailed explanation :)13:36
mrk377fray/tasslehoff - I have the same issue, and will migrate to using a standard lib directory instead.  We have deployed systems that do require poking that file.13:37
mcfriskbluelightning: so in bbappend I need to append do_install to install files to different location, then at do package time pick them into correct package and move back to right path, or change the meta-qt5 side of recipe...13:37
fraymrk377 why are they using a non-standard lib dir?  Is it to hide the libraries from the system.. or was it just a convienent place to store them?13:39
frayUsually you can use 'relative' library paths (See $ORIGIN in the linker docs) or an LD_LIBRARY_PATH= environment option in a shell wrapper to avoid this13:39
fray(if the purpose is to hide them, the relative/ld-library-path mechanism is the right one to use..  if it's just a convienence thing.. then I'd suggest moving them -- or at least symlinking fromt he regular libdir to where they were installed -- if you choose not to move them)13:40
bluelightningmcfrisk: er, no... no moving around of files required13:40
mrk377Well, it was how it was done in the past.  Mainly handling legacy code base, and most of us were learning.  Yeah, we have used the shell wrapper too.  I like your stance13:40
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bluelightningmcfrisk: you have two choices - rearrange PACKAGES such that your package comes first, or change FILES_${PN} so that it doesn't match the files you are trying to split out13:41
tasslehofffray: I agree. I install an nvidia binary-driver recipe on my target (from meta-jetson-tk1). That one puts a file in /etc/ld.so.conf.d, but the contents of the file are wrong, and ld.so.conf is empty13:42
fraythe nvidia case is interesting.. last time I looked they did it because they are intentionally polluting the SONAME namespace in order for their library to load.. the problem is that mechanism is somewhat fragile13:43
mrk377I've only got yacto compiling on RHEL7 this week (Great tool.  love it for the read-only filesystem).13:43
mrk377Question FRAY:  I have 4 source packages (autotools built) that need to incorporated into image.  What is best strategy and howto?13:43
fray(and I don't have a good answer for the nvidia case..  since they did some very strange things)13:44
* fray looks over at bluelighting and suggest 'devtool' / recipetool13:44
tasslehofffray: as long as I can get "the usual" ld.so.conf I should be fine. seems I must modify the libc-recipe for that.13:44
tasslehoffunless I can modify it in an image postprocess command or something13:45
mrk377FRAY: Is the mega-manual best reference for devtool/recipetool examples?13:45
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mrk377There is a steep barrier to entry on this!13:46
frayI'm not sure if the manual is there yet for devtool/recipe tool.. (I've only had limited experience with it.. Bluelightning and others helped write these tools.. as they are fairly new)13:46
fraythat is the recommended way of doing what you ask moving forward.. (at least setting up the recipe and such)13:47
bluelightningdevtool is covered in the development manual13:47
frayI still do it the "old fashion way" and write a new recipe from scratch.. but thats what I've been doing for about 5+ years now..13:47
bluelightninghttp://www.yoctoproject.org/docs/current/dev-manual/dev-manual.html#dev-modifying-source-code13:47
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fraymrk377 here is something i found quickly on a google search..13:49
frayhttps://enchildfone.wordpress.com/2010/03/23/a-description-of-rpath-origin-ld_library_path-and-portable-linux-binaries/13:49
frayI've not read it all.. but the RPATH is what I was referring to with the $ORIGIN13:49
mrk377Fray - Thx mate13:50
frayyou can embed that into the binaries when they are linked, and then they will search that path relative to the execution location..  completely avoiding the need for the ld.so.conf in most cases...13:50
fray(as I said, nvidia and other 'graphics override' type libraries are unique cases, one that I don't have a good answer for -- since each one seems to be unique in how it's written)13:50
fray(often though the LD_PRELOAD= is enought o make them work.. but that then requires a special wrapper)13:51
mcfriskbluelightning: Thanks! PACKAGES_prepend did the trick.13:51
frayone thing not in the link I posted.. there are ways to set/change RPATH after a binary is linked as well.. a 'chrpath' command available on some distributions..  so if the install location of an executable can be changed.. what you end up doing is using a really long default path.. and then use the chrpath at install time to set the actual location..  that however is usually only necessary -if- an absolute path is required for some reason -- it rarely is13:53
fraythe $ORIGIN path is the normal right way to handle it all..13:53
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mrk377Guys, I ran$ recipetool -d create -o /WHERE/zeromq-3.2.5.bb http://download.zeromq.org/zeromq-3.2.5.tar.gz14:44
mrk377Where should i put the zeromq-3.2.5.bb file to get included.  I run bitbake -k core-image-minimal-dev14:45
qknighthey. i built fsl-image-x11 and it created fsl-image-x11-t4240rdb-64b-20151016001455.rootfs.ext2.gz fsl-image-x11-t4240rdb-64b-20151016001455.rootfs.ext2.gz.u-boot uImage--3.12-r0-t4240rdb-64b-20151016001455.bin and other such files. how to setup this now?14:45
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qknightmrk377: look where the core-image-minimal-dev is defined and add it to the IMAGE_INSTALL += "zeromq"14:46
mrk377K.14:47
qknightmrk377: it is in meta-something/images (at least for the freescale and raspbi stuff i've been playing with)14:47
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qknightanyway, is there a general guide how to put that freescale stuff on a sd-card?14:51
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joshuaglqknight: dd the .sdcard file to your sdcard15:01
qknightjoshuagl: problem: i don't have the sdcard image only the files listed above and i've been trying IMAGE_FSTYPES="tar.bz2 ext3 sdcard" but i'm not on ARM but on PPC and maybe the sdcard isn't built there...15:01
qknightjoshuagl: not sure how to format the sd-card and where to place all the files... yet15:02
qknighthttps://community.freescale.com/thread/320655 <- here they state: sdcard is a class defined only under meta-fsl-arm (meta-fsl-arm - Layer containing Freescale ARM hardware support metadata) this is the one that creates the binary *.sdcard.15:02
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joshuagloh, right - the sdcard stuff is from meta-fsl-arm15:05
joshuaglI have no idea about the ppc parts, sorry15:05
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[Sno]bluelightning: I'm a coder - if you'd love someone hacks code to support you guys, kick my ass (not this week nor month, but generally)15:45
[Sno]bluelightning: mind I hate python ;)15:45
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* armpit nice to be home15:52
frayarmpit, recovered from all of the guiness?15:53
mrk377QUESTION: If my final image will support a PC-104 PCI bridge, must I add a MACHINE_FEATURES += "pci"  (In my build/local.conf, is that standard)??15:54
armpitnot enough guinness15:54
armpitfray,  had a 3 day cust visit tacked on to elce15:55
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fraywhee15:55
frayhopefully not too painful15:55
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armpitnot too bad.  pain part was it was colder. they had to de-ice the plan when i left15:56
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frayHA!15:58
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mrk377Has anyone every forced a specific version of the Kernel?  How far can you go back?17:23
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fraymrk377 your kernel and glibc need to be compatible.. but other then that you can go back quite a ways..17:32
fraythere is a minimum kernel version set for glibc.. I don't remember the parameter offhand.. but that is the farthest point back..17:33
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mrk377fray: If I had to base my project on a 2.6 kernel can this be done?17:34
frayvariable is 'OLDEST_KERNEL'17:34
fray./bitbake.conf:OLDEST_KERNEL = "2.6.32"17:34
fray./bitbake.conf:OLDEST_KERNEL_aarch64 = "3.14"17:34
fraythat is simply for compatibility with glibc..17:34
fraythats not to say other things won't break.. but it does give you a reasonable idea how far back you can go at least on the toolchain side17:34
mrk377Are you warning me that going to a 2.6.32 kernel will be difficult?  I'm nervous now.17:37
frayit very well may be.. I don't know..17:38
fraybut 2.6.32 or newer will work with glibc17:38
frayjust the fact you know the bounds for glibc will give you a higher chance of success17:38
fraykernels older then 2.6.32 are missing required APIs.. thus the 'oldest_kernel' setting17:39
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mrk377fray: Thanks.  How do I force a bitbake to use a Linux-yacto baseline kernel that is older?17:42
mrk377Since you make branch specific features.17:42
frayI think there is documentation there.. but basically you have to create an older linux-yocto recipe and then set preferred version17:42
fraybut I don't do much on kernels..  I'm toolchain, userspace and build system17:42
mrk377I look into it. thx :)17:43
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otavioAnyone used to Xwayland?17:48
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mrk377Men, in my poky/meta/recipes-kernel/linux folder (I have a linux-yocto_3.14.bb).  How do I force this kernel?20:24
mrk377because I added PREFERRED_VERSION_linux-yocto_forcevariable = "3.14%"  (The kernel did not change.  Scratching head) Order of operation issue.20:24
mrk377https://bugzilla.yoctoproject.org/show_bug.cgi?id=420420:24
yoctiBug 4204: normal, Undecided, ---, richard.purdie, RESOLVED NOTABUG, PREFERRED_VERSION_linux-yocto does not override machine specific settings in poky.conf20:24
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mtetreault_Anyone knows how to remove dependencies check for a recipe?21:04
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qknightmtetreault_: just edit the file maybe?21:39
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mtetreault_qknight: The issue is that I have a kind of hackish situation. I have Qt4.8.6Embedded compiled and deployed to the rootfs by yocto. But I also manually copy over Qt4.8.6 to the rootfs afterward (I had some issue with the version compiled by yocto). The recipe that fails is one that copies binaries needing qt4.8.6 that is not compiled/copied by yocto. That's why I'd like to remove the check for that recipe21:49
mtetreault_I know this is far from been the best solution. This is a really temporary solution.21:50
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