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drou | hi guys | 07:52 |
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drou | i created an image recipe for my raspberry pi but i don't have any perl module. i just did a IMAGE_INSTALL_append = " perl" | 07:53 |
drou | i thought i would have a lot of perl modules as it seems there is a lot in the perl recipe | 07:54 |
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drou | another thing is i have a lot of errors at each build: http://pastebin.com/BGTBr9LF | 07:58 |
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mckoan | good morning | 08:15 |
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jku_ | drou|: IMAGE_INSTALL is about packages, not recipes: a recipe can build multiple packages and installing one of those packages does not mean all of them are installed | 08:27 |
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drou| | jku_: ok, so how can i get the appropriate package ? eg perl-module-socket | 08:31 |
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jku_ | drou|: appending exactly that should work (in a production setting your perl script recipe should of course depend on it instead) | 08:34 |
drou| | hum, i need to have a perl.bbappend that RDEPENDS on this particular module, right? | 08:35 |
jku_ | drou|: alternatively "perl-modules" should give you all perl modules that can currently be built | 08:35 |
drou| | it tells nothing provies perl-modules, it is the same for perl-module-socket | 08:37 |
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jku_ | drou|: is this when you do IMAGE_INSTALL_append = " perl-module-socket" ? | 08:42 |
drou| | no, i thought it was better to have a recipes that RDEPENDS on this, instead of appending the IMAGE_INSTALL with this module. but in fact, it is working | 08:44 |
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DatGizmo | Morning, is there a way to do an 'addtask' depending on a machinoverride? | 08:48 |
joshuagl | Yocto blog doesn't mention 2.0/Jethro release - where's the best place to link to for that info? Surely not the mailing-list thread? | 08:48 |
jku_ | drou|: yeah, depending is "better". It shouldn't be perl that depends on the module though, it should be the package that contains script that actually requires module-socket | 08:49 |
drou| | jku_: that is exactly what i did before, i did a RDEPENDS_${PN}_append = " perl-module-socket" but it didn't help. cant figure out why | 08:54 |
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drou| | maybe this is something related to the lot of errors log i get | 08:56 |
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jku_ | drou| those seemed like broken configuration -- maybe double check conf/bblayers.conf ? | 08:59 |
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drou| | jku_: yes, but it looks good: http://pastebin.com/GQJ5JLd4 | 09:03 |
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jku_ | drou|: I believe BB_PATH isn't what you think... it's literally the PATH variable used when the environment is initialized | 09:05 |
jku_ | you can't use it to build BBLAYERS | 09:06 |
bluelightning | morning all | 09:09 |
drou| | hi bluelightning | 09:11 |
drou| | jku_: so i need to put the BBPATH variable to my build directory? | 09:13 |
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jku_ | drou|: I'd just try setting BBLAYERS with full paths | 09:14 |
drou| | i get it, BBPATH is ok, but the bblayers paths are not | 09:14 |
jku_ | that's how it looks to me | 09:15 |
drou| | thanks! | 09:15 |
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sno | khem: seems there is a philosophical problem wrt. ldap dependency (eg. for samba 4) | 10:25 |
sno | it might lead to a consensus discussing it qickly instead of shooting mails around over days | 10:26 |
sno | same for sysvinit/lsb init scripts | 10:27 |
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sno | RP: I managed the Perl6 recipes - thanks for your guidance | 10:28 |
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xerent | say that I have a layer that adds support for the machine "foo", and I want to make another layer that just changes a few things in the local.conf of that layer, but otherwise changes nothing. can I keep "foo" as the machine name in the new layer? | 10:43 |
xerent | more specifically, I want to build for the same machine but change some DISTRO_FEATURES | 10:43 |
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xerent | or am I confusing layers with machines here | 10:46 |
bluelightning | well, a layer providing support for a machine shouldn't be touching DISTRO_FEATURES | 10:50 |
bluelightning | DISTRO_FEATURES is something that's intended to be set from a conf/distro/distroname.conf inside a distro layer | 10:51 |
bluelightning | (if you're doing things properly) | 10:51 |
bluelightning | this allows you to easily swap out the machine support should you need to in future and keep the rest of your configuration | 10:51 |
xerent | well I want to build for the same machine target but change a few distro features, I guess make two distros for the same machine | 10:53 |
xerent | distro features are being set from platform/foo/local.conf at the moment | 10:53 |
xerent | which maybe wrong then? | 10:54 |
bluelightning | there should be just one local.conf under your build directory... you might very well have a template in your distro layer | 10:54 |
bluelightning | local.conf is intended to just select the machine, distro and set local paths; most of the time if you want to set anything more than that it should go into the distro configuration (or if it's specific to providing support for the machine itself, and not about how you're using that machine, then the machine configuration file) | 10:56 |
xerent | so even if I fixed this I'd still have to edit the local.conf in order to select the other distro | 10:57 |
xerent | so I'd still need a hack that swapped out local.conf files depending on what distro I wanted to build | 10:57 |
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xerent | which is kind of a bummer, really | 11:01 |
xerent | if I want to build one image version with wayland and another with x11 I can't do that without adding a hack editing my local conf | 11:01 |
xerent | 'yay' | 11:01 |
xerent | or did I miss anything? | 11:01 |
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rburton | xerent: sure you can, i do that all the time. bitbake core-image-sato core-image-weston builds an x11-based image and a wayland image in the same bitbake run. | 11:06 |
rburton | your just need to have both x11 and wayland in distro_features | 11:06 |
xerent | the issue is that I can't have both | 11:06 |
rburton | why not? | 11:06 |
xerent | because of conflicts in my BSP, and also because of space concerns | 11:07 |
xerent | adding x11 as a distro features expands the image by 100 MB | 11:07 |
rburton | space isn't a concern, distro features != what goes into the image | 11:07 |
xerent | funny how the image grows with the distro_features flag ONLY changing then ;) | 11:07 |
rburton | if your wayland image grows by 100m when you turn on x11, you've got stuff in your image which you should remove | 11:07 |
rburton | so.. remove it. | 11:07 |
xerent | ok, so it's just the freescale BSP incompatibility issues then | 11:08 |
rburton | have a go at freescale then | 11:08 |
xerent | i will, and I will probably fail at that | 11:08 |
rburton | otavio: meta-freescale can't handle both x11 and wayland distro features at the same time? | 11:08 |
xerent | meta-fsl-arm | 11:09 |
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xerent | for iMX6 target | 11:09 |
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lzm | is there a way to set variables matching on a prefix? for instance VARIALBE_pn-bla* = "xxx" would match all pn's starting with bla | 11:12 |
rburton | no | 11:12 |
rburton | well, you could do that from an anonymous python block | 11:12 |
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lzm | i'm trying to reduce repetition in some of these rules https://gist.github.com/lessandro/950e394c1a3ba2ff19a4 | 11:14 |
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xerent | rburton: why aren't all distro features always enabled? | 11:18 |
xerent | I mean, it doesn't affect image size or anything ;) | 11:18 |
rburton | because it can | 11:18 |
xerent | noted | 11:19 |
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xerent | I will implement a hack as workaround for building two images with different distro features without affecting image size then | 11:19 |
xerent | thanks for your help! | 11:19 |
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otavio | rburton: it cannot | 11:36 |
otavio | rburton: well, it will for 2.1 | 11:36 |
otavio | rburton: as we will be moving for xwayland | 11:36 |
rburton | otavio: what's the problem with enabling wayland and x11 in the same distro? | 11:39 |
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rburton | otavio: poky builds images on the ab with x11 and wayland distro features enabled | 11:40 |
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otavio | rburton: the Vivante GPU has support for one or another | 11:45 |
rburton | and you can't build both and have the packages be mutually exclusive? | 11:45 |
otavio | rburton: no; they install the gpu libraries for one or another | 11:47 |
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rburton | laaaaame | 11:47 |
rburton | (two recipes?) | 11:47 |
otavio | rburton: what do you mean both and be mutually exclusive? | 11:47 |
rburton | driver recipe creates two driver packages, vivante-x11 and vivante-wayland, which conflict with each other as they contain the same files (but with different behaviour) | 11:48 |
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rburton | just surprised that the driver makes you pick | 11:48 |
otavio | rburton: no; their code is build different as well | 11:50 |
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otavio | rburton: the headers need different defines | 11:50 |
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otavio | rburton: it is a disaster ;P | 11:50 |
rburton | otavio: yeah so build it twice | 11:51 |
rburton | closed gpu driver in being terrible shock!! | 11:51 |
otavio | rburton: no; let's say cairo | 11:51 |
otavio | rburton: it needs different defines for the build | 11:51 |
rburton | oh jesus | 11:51 |
otavio | rburton: yes; I know | 11:52 |
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joshuagl | I spent some time trying to untangle it recently | 12:00 |
joshuagl | it drove me to drink ;-) | 12:01 |
* rburton is glad to be gone of EMGD | 12:01 | |
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otavio | I was checking mesa with fbdev EGL; JaMa was kind to point me to the discussion showing it has been removed. | 12:02 |
otavio | The question is: is there a replacement/ | 12:02 |
* nrossi is glad the chips he deals with don't even have framebuffers :) | 12:02 | |
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drou| | does anyone know if there is a simple command line that allows to send an email using gmail? | 12:19 |
otavio | drou|: I use ssmtp | 12:26 |
drou| | otavio: thanks, i'll take a look at it | 12:27 |
drou| | otavio: is there any existing recipe for this? | 12:32 |
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otavio | I thought you were refering to the host | 12:37 |
otavio | dunno | 12:37 |
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fmeerkoetter | hi, i am using systemd/journal on a meta-raspberrypi based yocto image. | 12:46 |
fmeerkoetter | i've enabled systemd support via | 12:46 |
fmeerkoetter | DISTRO_FEATURES_append = " systemd" | 12:46 |
fmeerkoetter | VIRTUAL-RUNTIME_init_manager = "systemd" | 12:47 |
fmeerkoetter | DISTRO_FEATURES_BACKFILL_CONSIDERED = "sysvinit" | 12:47 |
fmeerkoetter | the resulting image works fine | 12:47 |
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fmeerkoetter | but i noticed that there are still klogd/syslogd running on the resulting system | 12:47 |
fmeerkoetter | both started as a systemd unit | 12:47 |
fmeerkoetter | i wonder if there is a good reason for that | 12:47 |
fmeerkoetter | shouldn't journald be sufficientß | 12:48 |
fmeerkoetter | ? | 12:48 |
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t0mmy | fmeerkoetter: To enable systemd, I think you also need to add this line VIRTUAL-RUNTIME_initscripts = "" | 12:54 |
fmeerkoetter | t0mmy: it is enabled | 12:54 |
fmeerkoetter | i am only wondering why klogd/syslogd are still running on the resulting image | 12:55 |
t0mmy | fmeerkoetter: Otherwise maybe, It is possible that klogd/syslogd are added by a recipe dependency, check recipes you used. | 12:57 |
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xerent | otavio: thanks for the info on the vivante driver :) I can manage with a workaround enabling distro features for one OR the other (x11 vs wayland) | 13:22 |
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marek_ | hi all | 16:22 |
marek_ | I'm trying to compile external kernel module but need to pass some defines to module. I do it manually in Makefile by adding: ccflags-y :=, is there way in yocto to specify something like that (EXTRA_OEMAKE maybe?) | 16:23 |
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sno | khem: around? | 16:37 |
adtec_ | Hi, I have a question regarding linux kernel mainline recipes. Is this the correct channel? | 16:38 |
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bluelightning | marek_: EXTRA_OEMAKE += "ccflags-y='value'" should work | 16:40 |
bluelightning | adtec_: possibly - ask your question and we'll try our best to answer | 16:41 |
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marek_ | bluelightning: many thanks it works | 16:43 |
bluelightning | marek_: np | 16:44 |
adtec_ | bluelighting: Thanks, it should be fairly straight forward. I need to rev my kernel to mainline linux version 4.1.13, but so far I have been unable to figure out the correct source path | 16:44 |
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adtec_ | I am able to check out the 4.3 branch using "SRC_URI = "git://git.kernel.org/pub/scm/linux/kernel/git/stable/linux-stable.git;branch=${SRCBRANCH}", where SRCBRANCH = "master" and SRCREV = "${AUTOREV}". | 16:46 |
adtec_ | But how can I fetch a different kernel version based on a commit number? | 16:47 |
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sno | adtec_: IIRC the stable kernels are at git://git.kernel.org/pub/scm/linux/kernel/git/stable/linux-stable.git | 16:47 |
sno | adtec_: there are branches for the mainained versions, e.g. linux-4.1.y | 16:48 |
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adtec_ | sno: Would I use "linux-4.1.y" as SRCBRANCH? | 16:49 |
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sno | adtec_: likely ;) | 16:49 |
sno | don't nail me on that, but that would my first start | 16:50 |
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adtec_ | sno: Thanks, I'll give it a try | 16:50 |
marek_ | bluelightning: hmm sorry I was too fast it's not working :( | 16:52 |
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marek_ | I added #ifdef to code and also #warning but define is not defined | 16:53 |
sno | marek_: bluelightning gives you the way how to pass values to make, when you need to pass from make to c-source, something like EXTRA_OEMAKE += "-DDEFKEY=VALUE" | 16:55 |
marek_ | sno: but this is special makefile becaus eit's building external kernel module | 16:56 |
sno | marek_: meta-fsl-arm has a special patch for galcore's module makefile and I have adopted the makefile for 8189es module, too | 16:57 |
sno | unless we have access to your source, we don't know anything about the makefile can deal with | 16:57 |
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marek_ | sno: which recipe exactly in meta-fsl-arm? | 16:58 |
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sno | recipes-kernel/kernel-modules/kernel-module-imx-gpu-viv_5.0.11.p7.1+fslc.bb | 16:58 |
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marek_ | sno: OK, I'll look on that thanks | 17:02 |
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sno | is there a way to pick the kernel per image? E.g. creating default image, build full featured kernel - and for recovery image, build downsized one? | 17:03 |
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sno | I tried to override PREFERRED_PROVIDER_virtual/kernel in recover-image.bb - but still using the full featured one | 17:04 |
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kergoth | preferences are global | 17:07 |
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xp190 | Hi, could someone point me in the right direction to add wolf-ssl to my poky image? | 17:08 |
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xp190 | I found the meta-wolfssl layer, but I'm not having any luck adding it into my build | 17:09 |
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adtec_ | sno: Thanks, that seemed to have done it. | 17:10 |
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benjamirc | hello, I have a question, how do you fix pidgin's --SSL handshake failed-- when connecting to the lync service? | 17:12 |
benjamirc | is it via re-running userraws.py? | 17:12 |
sno | kergoth: so I have to modify the machine setting for such a change? | 17:12 |
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bluelightning | benjamirc: wrong channel I think... | 17:15 |
kergoth | sno: you can't change what gets built on a per image basis, it just wouldn't make sense. the same package feed is used for all images, and what would happen if you 'bitbake image1 image2 image3'? not doable. deciding what recipes get built is a global configuration change, so distro/machine/etc | 17:16 |
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RP | In case anyone is interested the patch I just posted is worth a speed double for "bitbake -p" and a hot cache | 17:19 |
kergoth | wow, nice | 17:20 |
RP | kergoth: loading the codeparser cache three times in succession was just stupid... | 17:20 |
kergoth | heh, indeed | 17:21 |
kergoth | didn't realize it got initialized multiple times in a single build | 17:21 |
rburton | JaMa: your buildname patch doesn't apply to master | 17:21 |
RP | kergoth: its as the config gets built by the UI :/ | 17:21 |
kergoth | ah | 17:21 |
RP | kergoth: turns features to the right settings and so on, annoying but kind of understandable | 17:21 |
rburton | JaMa: oh you sent a variation which does apply | 17:22 |
RP | kergoth: I'm still not convinced its right but codeparser reloading is clearly wrong and killing performance so its the low hanging fruit | 17:22 |
RP | (theory was that a core config reset was cheap I guess) | 17:23 |
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sno | kergoth: doable or not might lead us into a philosophic discussíon - for today it's enought that is not supported | 17:30 |
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khem | sno: yes | 17:40 |
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khem | RP: I use bitbake -p often and I tried it | 17:41 |
khem | seems to be good | 17:41 |
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ulf` | RP: Does this patch work on top of 2.0? URL? | 17:52 |
sno | khem: I thought the ldap/samba/lfs discussion could be faster here | 17:58 |
bluelightning | ulf`: yes if you apply it to bitbake; http://patchwork.openembedded.org/patch/107335/ | 17:59 |
JaMa | someone building gtk+3 with wayland enabled? here it fails to find wayland-scanner | configure: error: Could not find wayland-scanner in your PATH | 18:02 |
var_x | whats the best way to share files between recipes? I'm trying to get the gutenprint recipe working again and it involves copying some natively compiled files from gutenprint-native | 18:03 |
JaMa | var_x: stage them in sysroot | 18:04 |
var_x | JaMa: Thanks - Learning this as I go | 18:05 |
bluelightning | var_x: ensure the files go somewhere in the sysroot basically - but note that does not mean you should explicitly install them there - install them as normal in do_install into an appropriate path under ${D}, and then they'll be staged from there | 18:05 |
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bluelightning | var_x: if the path you're installing under isn't staged (not all are by default) then you can extend that, but that needs to be done properly | 18:05 |
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bluelightning | see the last lines of this recipe for an example: http://cgit.openembedded.org/cgit.cgi/openembedded-core/tree/meta/recipes-graphics/xorg-font/font-util_1.3.1.bb?h=master | 18:06 |
bluelightning | it's uncommon to need to do that though | 18:06 |
* bluelightning recently filed a bug about documenting this properly | 18:07 | |
var_x | bluelightning: Thanks that helps ... do that mean that the native files I need copyed will be on the target sysroot though? I don't need the native files as the end result, gutenprint just needs them for the compiling ... it's not cross compiler friendly :/ | 18:07 |
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bluelightning | var_x: no, you can refer to the native sysroot from a target recipe just fine | 18:07 |
var_x | aaah gotcha | 18:08 |
bluelightning | var_x: see the STAGING_.*_NATIVE variables defined in meta/conf/bitbake.conf | 18:08 |
sno | difference in optimization between RDEPENDS and DEPENDS - can RDEPENDS be build parallel to requiring recipe (e.g. because RDEPENDS without DEPENDS guides to e.g. script sourcing, perl module using, ...), or does RDEPENDS results in the same strict order as DEPENDS? | 18:09 |
bluelightning | sno: RDEPENDS just means that it's going to be the packaging tasks of the recipe depending on those of the recipes producing the named packages, as opposed to DEPENDS where do_configure depends on do_populate_sysroot of the mentioned items | 18:12 |
sno | bluelightning: thanks | 18:13 |
var_x | bluelightning: holy crap - so thats where everything is defined! That will help me so much. If I could kiss you through IRC i would. | 18:13 |
bluelightning | var_x: heh, well, I appreciate the sentiment :D | 18:14 |
bluelightning | var_x: you may also find bitbake -e | less (with / to search) useful | 18:14 |
bluelightning | that'll also pick up things defined elsewhere, since bitbake.conf doesn't define everything (and things defined there can be overridden later) | 18:15 |
bluelightning | bbl | 18:16 |
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fmeerkoetter | how can I find out which packages have packageX as a dependency aka. what pulled in a certain dependency? | 18:29 |
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T0mW | This is driving me crazy (all nighters and broken coffee machine doesn't help ;), I have a recipe that requires another recipe to fully build before bitbake processes it. What dependency do I make to hold off the build until the first finishes out? DEPENDS_${PN} = "blah" doesn't work, do I use RDEPENDS? | 18:41 |
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rburton | define fully build | 18:45 |
kergoth | what do you mean by fully build? | 18:45 |
kergoth | rburton: :) | 18:45 |
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T0mW | kergoth: do_installs should have run to completion. | 18:46 |
T0mW | there is a header file which needs to appear in the sysroots, the second recipe needs that to build its binary. | 18:47 |
kergoth | that's what DEPENDS is for | 18:47 |
T0mW | :/ | 18:48 |
T0mW | yeah | 18:48 |
kergoth | nearly every recipe sets it.. | 18:48 |
kergoth | by default, for anything in DEPENDS, do_configure will depend on their do_populate_sysroot | 18:48 |
kergoth | so we know their files from do_install are available in the sysroots | 18:48 |
T0mW | DEPENDS / DEPENDS_${PN} in second recipe? | 18:48 |
kergoth | no | 18:48 |
kergoth | DEPENDS, period | 18:48 |
T0mW | ok | 18:48 |
kergoth | there is no DEPENDS_${PN} | 18:48 |
T0mW | ah | 18:48 |
kergoth | RDEPENDS is used for binary pcakages, and so is specific to the binary package name | 18:48 |
kergoth | DEPENDS is build time, for the recipe, and so is now | 18:48 |
kergoth | not | 18:48 |
T0mW | kergoth: doh, working. Too much keyboard time and not enough sleep , thanks. | 18:50 |
kergoth | np | 18:50 |
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drou | hi | 20:25 |
drou | i'm getting an error in the do_install step of my recipe, it tells i don't have the correct permissions to create a file: http://pastebin.com/CAdLMfqf | 20:29 |
kergoth | you have to tell make to install the files into ${D} | 20:29 |
kergoth | for autotools this is automatic, by setting DESTDIR | 20:29 |
kergoth | for non-autotools make-based systems, not all of them support such a variable, in which case you'd have to patch it in | 20:29 |
drou | here is my recipe: http://pastebin.com/Khuanu80 i tried to override the do_install step by adding install -d ${D}${sbindir} but it didnt help | 20:29 |
kergoth | and set EXTRA_OEMAKE appropriately | 20:30 |
kergoth | no, it's make install that's trying to write to the wrong path | 20:30 |
kergoth | install -d isn't going to do anything | 20:30 |
kergoth | that project uses autoconf, but not automake, so it doesn't comply with automake conventions like DESTDIR | 20:30 |
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kergoth | you'll have to patch its makefile to prepend $(DESTDIR) to the destination paths, and then pass it in with EXTRA_OEMAKE | 20:31 |
drou | so basically in my EXTRA_OEMAKE i'll have += "DESTDIR= | 20:32 |
drou | sorry, += "DESTDIR=${D}" | 20:32 |
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kergoth | actually in this case that part is already handled, since you're inheriting autotools-brokensep . i'd thought at first it was a custom make based setup before i looked at the recipe & source, but it's autoconf, so autotools.bbclass is already passing DESTDIR in do_install | 20:39 |
kergoth | so you just need to patch the makefiel to obey it and you'll be set | 20:39 |
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trip0 | can anyone explain the meaning of ${prefix} ? | 20:45 |
trip0 | i think it has a different semantic meaning than what CMAKE_INSTALL_PREFIX means | 20:45 |
trip0 | but, cmake.bbclass sets CMAKE_INSTALL_PREFIX to ${prefix} anyway | 20:46 |
drou | kergoth: alright thanks, i'll try to do that | 20:46 |
kergoth | trip0: prefix is /usr in most systems. | 20:46 |
kergoth | see bitbake.conf | 20:47 |
trip0 | yep, looking at bitbake.conf now | 20:47 |
trip0 | prefix is not the same as DESTDIR as in "make DESTDIR=/foo/bar install", right? | 20:47 |
kergoth | correct. all our target path vars like prefix/bindir/etc are all *relative to* DESTDIR | 20:48 |
trip0 | if prefix is set to /usr, and DESDIR is /foo/bar, a library will install in /foo/bar/usr/lib ... | 20:48 |
kergoth | DESTDIR is an alternate / | 20:48 |
kergoth | correct | 20:48 |
trip0 | okay. there is a bug in cmake.bbclass then | 20:48 |
kergoth | i think if it wasn't installing files to ${D} in its install, none of our cmake recipes would work at all | 20:49 |
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trip0 | maybe CMAKE_INSTALL_PREFIX should be set to ${base_prefix} ? | 20:49 |
trip0 | kergoth, perhaps. this is what it baffles me. if CMAKE_INSTALL_PREFIX is set to /usr, a system config file would be installed to /usr/etc | 20:50 |
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trip0 | they are installing to ${D}, but cmake is appending $(prefix} to every file after that. | 20:51 |
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trip0 | so effectively ${D} becomes ${D}/${prefix} | 20:51 |
kergoth | that does sound wrong | 20:52 |
trip0 | what I'm seeing is that I'm telling cmake to install a systemd unit to /lib/systemd/, but cmake is prepending ${prefix} to that. so it always gets installed to /usr/lib/systemd | 20:52 |
trip0 | which is wrong | 20:53 |
trip0 | this particular recipe has a post install script that fixes it | 20:54 |
trip0 | I'm guessing a lot of cmake recipies do as well | 20:54 |
trip0 | so fixing cmake.bbclass will break a lot of cmake recipes :( | 20:55 |
JaMa | sno: if only 3 months old... | 20:55 |
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kergoth | better to fix it properly in the class and adjust the recipes to remove their hacks, in that case, i'd think | 20:59 |
kergoth | at least 2.0 is out now, so it could go to master | 20:59 |
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trip0 | kergoth, okay, i'll make the fix and submit to mailing list | 21:04 |
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rburton | now is the perfect time for that - plenty of time for other layers to catch up | 21:06 |
* rburton wonders if we found a new cmake class maintainer | 21:06 | |
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* kergoth is currently working through mentor's queue of bits to submit | 21:07 | |
joshuagl | trip0 ♥ cmake | 21:07 |
trip0 | me too | 21:07 |
hugovs | /quit | 21:07 |
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joshuagl | yah, that's what I was saying trip0 - why not maintain the class? ;-) | 21:07 |
trip0 | oh, heh. | 21:08 |
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yann|work | I'm puzzled by the use of the arm-poky-linux-gnueabi "triplet", with "poky" in the place of hardware vendor | 21:12 |
yann|work | doesn't it already cause problems, with eg. SDL2 expecting "raspberrypi" as vendor for that platform ? | 21:14 |
trip0 | kergoth, patch should go to openembedded-core mailing list? | 21:14 |
joshuagl | that's right trip0 | 21:16 |
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trip0 | thx, joseppc | 21:17 |
trip0 | er joshuagl | 21:17 |
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kergoth | yann|work: buildsystems that make assumptions based on vendor are generally broken, or at the least worth beating into shape | 21:23 |
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joshuagl | that's right trip0 | 21:24 |
joshuagl | bah, sorry - I appear to be repeating myself | 21:24 |
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trip0 | patch sent. let the breakage begin! | 21:28 |
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yann|work | kergoth: right, trying to convince the SDL guys ;) | 21:41 |
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yann|work | but OTOH, putting anything in the vendor field could be seen as broken as well, maybe encouraging some people to use it... | 21:42 |
kergoth | vendor is an arbitrary string, depends on who built the toolchain you're using. it's not necessarily going to tell you anything about the target | 21:42 |
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kergoth | i can see why they might make assumptions based on it given knowledge of particular toolchains, but obviously that logic won't do squat for us, since we aren't htat toolchain | 21:43 |
yann|work | as I read it, it is more for specifying a hardware vendor than a software one | 21:43 |
kergoth | check the autoconf docs, it probably originated there, given thats where the --build/--host/--target notions come from | 21:44 |
* kergoth shrugs | 21:44 | |
kergoth | see e.g. build_vendor | 21:44 |
yann|work | kergoth: in their case it's not even the toolchain, they hacked config.guess to return what they want | 21:44 |
kergoth | well, naturally that won't be of much use to us, the whole notion of config.guess is to return a string about the build environment, not target, which breaks assumptions in the cross-compilation case | 21:45 |
kergoth | regarding conditionals using the system type string, from the autoconf docs: Whenever you're tempted to use ‘$host’ it's worth considering whether some sort of probe would be better. New system types come along periodically or previously missing features are added. Well-written probes can adapt themselves to such things, but hard-coded lists of names can't. | 21:46 |
kergoth | see 14.3 Using the System Type | 21:46 |
kergoth | sounds like they're violating that recommendation, and its' biting us now, as you'd expect it to | 21:47 |
fray | (you have to remember autoconf probes for such things as the length of a char.. and uint_8 :) | 21:47 |
kergoth | true, but they're right about this, use info about what you need, not a hardcoded string from the system type | 21:47 |
fray | agreed | 21:47 |
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yann|work | kergoth: the rpi is apparently often used for on-target compilation | 21:53 |
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yann|work | thx, you helped make my bugreport better ;) | 21:54 |
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kergoth | np | 21:57 |
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denix | is there a way to clean sysroot (and/or tmp/work) w/o cleaning images and packages in deploy? | 22:10 |
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alimon1 | denix: you can use cleanall (sstate, srcs) or cleansstate over the recipe this causes to build again | 22:19 |
denix | alimon1: not what I'm looking for | 22:19 |
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alimon1 | denix: you can do a simply rm -r :D | 22:20 |
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khem | denix: angstrom host DEPLOY_DIR outside TMP_DIR thats something you can look at | 22:22 |
denix | khem: per recipe, not completely | 22:23 |
denix | and the trick is not angstrom specific - we used to do that back in classic days... | 22:24 |
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khem` | bitbake -ccleanall <recipe> | 22:24 |
khem` | doesnt that do that job ? | 22:24 |
denix | khem: it also removes corresponding packages and images | 22:25 |
khem` | yes so what is your usecase ? | 22:25 |
khem` | sometimes you need to step back and redefine your problem | 22:25 |
denix | khem: I just need to nuke sysroot for a specific recipe | 22:25 |
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khem` | what is the end goal its achieving ? | 22:26 |
denix | I'm just experimenting with something here, was just wondering if it was possible to preserve built artifacts for a recipe when cleaning it up | 22:28 |
kergoth | afaik -c clean doesn't remove images, so don't really see the issue there | 22:28 |
kergoth | khem`: -c cleanall != -c fetchall. cleanall still runs against one recipe, just also removes sources from DL_DIR | 22:28 |
kergoth | inconsistency in our naming (one of many) | 22:28 |
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kergoth | you could create a task like fetchall which runs clean against the recipe and all its deps | 22:29 |
denix | kergoth: I thought so too, but it seems to remove corresponding images in deploy and packages in ipks... :( | 22:29 |
kergoth | would be just a few lines | 22:29 |
kergoth | packages in ipks, of course | 22:29 |
kergoth | but i thought DEPLOY_DIR_IMAGE was handled differently | 22:29 |
* kergoth shrugs | 22:29 | |
kergoth | ah | 22:30 |
kergoth | denix: scripts/wipe-sysroot | 22:30 |
kergoth | looks like it's probably just what you want | 22:30 |
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pumpernickel_ | With a SRC_URI=file | 22:32 |
pumpernickel_ | Does bitbake know if that directory has been updated? | 22:32 |
denix | kergoth: thanks! looking into it now | 22:32 |
pumpernickel_ | Or does the recipe revision need to be updated? | 22:32 |
kergoth | pumpernickel_: afaik it should be checksumming the input, recursively in the case of a directory, but i'm not certain | 22:32 |
kergoth | that is, i know it handles files right, not sure about dirs offhand | 22:33 |
pumpernickel_ | I could double-check, I was curious if there was any expectation of that though. | 22:33 |
denix | kergoth: seems to be all of sysroot though... | 22:33 |
pumpernickel_ | I've learned that I really won't understand bitbake without reading a bit of python. | 22:33 |
pumpernickel_ | We're trying to do too many non-standard things with it. | 22:34 |
rburton | denix: wipe-sysroot in scripts will clean the sysroot and all relevant stamps | 22:35 |
pumpernickel_ | kergoth: thanks | 22:36 |
denix | rburton: I'm looking for cleaning a single recipe's sysroot. in other words, I want "bitbake recipe -c clean" to preserve packages and images - any quick ideas? | 22:36 |
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rburton | rm_work? | 22:37 |
rburton | (presumably you meant the work directory, recipes don't have their own sysroot) | 22:37 |
denix | rburton: as in bbclass? it removes tmp/work, not sysroot | 22:38 |
denix | rburton: well, packages, not recipes :) but still | 22:38 |
rburton | not entirely sure i understand what you want to achieve then | 22:38 |
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denix | rburton: let's say I have 2 mutually exclusive packages that provide the same virtual/blah, I need to build them both (switching PREFERRED_PROVIDER and bitbake -cclean in between) and keep their ipk packages and images in deploy for binary feeds and such | 22:41 |
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denix | so, I'm fine cleaning corresponding sysroot, sstage, stamps, packagedata in between, as long as built artifacts are preserved... | 22:43 |
denix | possible or am I crazy? | 22:44 |
khem` | kergoth: I understand that, the kind of clean denix might be needing could be done with -cclean or -ccleansstate iself | 22:45 |
denix | khem: correct | 22:45 |
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kergoth | personally i'd just copy out the artifacts i need at the end of the build, wipe tmp between builds, and call it a day | 22:56 |
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khem` | denix: I think what you are needing is another kind of clean-withoout-deploydir | 23:06 |
khem` | not sure if thats a good idea | 23:06 |
denix | khem: looks like it | 23:06 |
khem` | and whats the issue with ipk regneration ? | 23:07 |
khem` | it will be overwritten on rebuild anyway | 23:07 |
denix | khem: why? | 23:08 |
khem` | if the content is same | 23:10 |
khem` | otherwise they are added | 23:11 |
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denix | khem: well, the content is mostly different - package1.ipk has file1.ext and package2.ipk has file2.ext, but both packages PROVIDE a common feature, selected with PREFERRED_PROVIDER | 23:15 |
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khem` | denix: is this separable at DISTRO level ? | 23:17 |
khem` | I wonder if the issue is more fundamental usage | 23:17 |
denix | what do you mean at DISTRO level? | 23:18 |
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