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| drou | hi all | 07:25 |
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| joshuagl | I really want to read about wic and devtool, there should be a page on yp.o that points me to relevant info for each of the cool tools being developed | 08:42 |
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| joshuagl | aha, wic: https://www.yoctoproject.org/docs/2.0/dev-manual/dev-manual.html#creating-partitioned-images | 08:52 |
| joshuagl | devtool: https://www.yoctoproject.org/docs/2.0/dev-manual/dev-manual.html#using-devtool-in-your-workflow | 08:52 |
| JEEB | I should check if wic now creates EFI images better | 08:53 |
| drou | i have a question regarding buildhistory, does is store the SRCREV only for the packages that have ${AUTOREV} and not for those which have a SRCREV explicitaly defined? | 09:05 |
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| tobiash | hi, is it intended that recipes with 'do_configure[noexec] = "1"' don't get licence checked? | 09:20 |
| tobiash | (in terms of checksum mismatch via LIC_FILES_CHKSUM) | 09:23 |
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| bluelightning | tobiash: that's not the right way to disable that | 09:36 |
| bluelightning | tobiash: is the code you're building open or closed source? | 09:37 |
| tobiash | bluelightning: both | 09:40 |
| tobiash | just grepped through the source | 09:40 |
| tobiash | found also something like this here: | 09:40 |
| tobiash | poky/meta/recipes-core/glibc/glibc-collateral.inc:do_configure[noexec] = "1" | 09:40 |
| bluelightning | yeah, that's not why that's setting that though | 09:41 |
| tobiash | so the correct way to disable configure would be to define an empty do_configure? | 09:41 |
| bluelightning | do_configure isn't just about checking the license | 09:42 |
| bluelightning | does the software really not have anything to be configured prior to compilation? | 09:42 |
| tobiash | nope (java stuff) | 09:42 |
| bluelightning | I see | 09:42 |
| bluelightning | well in any case, I'd suggest if there is a license in there other than your own that you may need to comply with you should consider setting LICENSE and LIC_FILES_CHKSUM properly rather than trying to disable them | 09:42 |
| bluelightning | you can set LICENSE = "CLOSED", but if you're incorporating open source components that's probably inaccurate | 09:43 |
| bluelightning | probably best to talk to a lawyer if there's any doubt (I'm not one, naturally) | 09:43 |
| tobiash | I've set that properly and noticed that when changing the checksum, there was no complaint about that | 09:45 |
| tobiash | after some debugging I noticed that the disabled configure step was the reason of the skipped license checksum check | 09:45 |
| bluelightning | ah right, I see | 09:46 |
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| bluelightning | I wonder if we ought to consider splitting that out | 09:47 |
| tobiash | I also just thought if it would be better to do the license check as an independent task> | 09:48 |
| tobiash | currently trying that out | 09:48 |
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| tobiash | bluelightning: first build looks promising, it did check the licenses of my recipe now even when skipping do_configure :) | 10:12 |
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| drou | where can i add an .inc file that stores all the SRCREV_pn_? i'd like to avoid including the whole list in my local.conf | 10:22 |
| drou | in the machine conf? | 10:22 |
| bluelightning | drou: your custom distro config is the best place | 10:25 |
| drou | thanks, i'll take a look to the manual for that | 10:27 |
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| fmeerkoetter | how do I debug why a .bbappend isn't picked up? | 11:45 |
| fmeerkoetter | via bitbake-layer show appends i can see that it is found | 11:48 |
| fmeerkoetter | but i don't see the effect | 11:48 |
| fmeerkoetter | my append file contains a single line CMDLINE = "dwc_otg.lpm_enable=0 console=ttyAMA0,115200 root=/dev/mmcblk0p2 rootfstype=btrfs rootwait" | 11:50 |
| fmeerkoetter | which tries to override CMDLINE which is set in the recipe i am overriding | 11:50 |
| fmeerkoetter | the recipe to be overriden has ... rootfstype=ext4.... i am trying to change this into btrfs | 11:51 |
| fmeerkoetter | but the resulting kernel has the wrong commandline | 11:51 |
| fmeerkoetter | i already did a clean | 11:51 |
| fmeerkoetter | any ideas? | 11:51 |
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| figiel | fmeerkoetter, you can run bitbake -e and see history of changes of the variable you're interested in, it may help as maybe it's altered somewhere else again. | 12:00 |
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| * joshuagl finds the easter eggs in the release announcement and chuckles | 12:03 | |
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| fmeerkoetter | when building a bitbake target i'd often would like to see the whole build output of the target on the console | 12:21 |
| fmeerkoetter | how do i do this? | 12:22 |
| rburton | as in the full compile log, install log, and so on? | 12:23 |
| JaMa | | tee | 12:24 |
| fmeerkoetter | rburton: yes, full compiler output | 12:24 |
| fmeerkoetter | for example | 12:24 |
| rburton | fmeerkoetter: read the logs after the event, they're in the work/machine/recipe/version/temp/log.* | 12:25 |
| rburton | (symlink one is the most recent) | 12:26 |
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| fmeerkoetter | rburton: thanks. i knew about that one. thought there is an (additional) way | 12:31 |
| fmeerkoetter | a more direct way | 12:31 |
| fmeerkoetter | especialy when debugging/developing a single package | 12:31 |
| fmeerkoetter | figiel: thanks. i figured it out. my .bbappend is fine. kernel config was b0rked | 12:32 |
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| Alex_V | hello guys, I seem to have a sicrular dependency for the base-files recipe, any idea on how to investigate why this error is caused | 14:11 |
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| sno | JaMa: I'm trying out the suggested _append_linuxstdbase line for samba - but I can't get my mind wrapped around that ... | 14:58 |
| sno | it looks as if there is no opposite to that linuxstdbase - so if (linuxstdbase); then use lsb + lsb-init; else use sysv-plain-init; fi | 14:59 |
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| sno | do you have a hint how to solve that? | 15:03 |
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| JaMa | sno: I haven't read the whole discussion with khem, but if you need to implement "else" then you can use interim variable to do that | 15:05 |
| JaMa | FOO_linuxstdbase = "bar" | 15:05 |
| JaMa | FOO = "blah" | 15:05 |
| JaMa | PACKAGECONFIG_append = " ${FOO}" | 15:05 |
| sno | JaMa: I'm simply not convinced restricting the init to libuxstdbase override | 15:05 |
| sno | JaMa: but that's a good idea and before having a time consuming discussion ;) | 15:06 |
| sno | JaMa: what I finally want/need is a reliable start/stop for samba when not using systemd | 15:07 |
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| raykinsella78 | hi folks - trying to build an SDK with the kernel headers, have added IMAGE += " kernel-devsrc", but it did seem to do anything? | 15:49 |
| kergoth | what exactly is "IMAGE"? | 15:50 |
| kergoth | i'm not aware of such a variable | 15:50 |
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| kergoth | you'd have to add it to IMAGE_INSTALL in the image recipe you're running populate_sdk against, or add it to TOOLCHAIN_TARGET_TASK | 15:50 |
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| raykinsella78 | tried adding it to TOOLCHAIN_TARGET_TASK and it complain against about RPROVIDES. | 15:53 |
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| kergoth | put the exact error message in a pastebin | 15:55 |
| kergoth | don't summarize | 15:55 |
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| Ulfalizer | why does oe_runmake add '-e'? just to deal with makefiles that do 'CFLAGS = ...' (rather than ?=) and the like? | 16:14 |
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| Ulfalizer | seems a bit dangerous for other stuff, in case something in the environment just happens to override something internal to the makefile... | 16:15 |
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| kergoth | Ulfalizer: yep, pretty much. and yep it is dangerous, which is why folks are looking into removing it as the default. it's not the case for autotools/etc, just pure make based systems, and it's not ideal. it makes many projects 'just work', but it encourages folks to not even read the makefiles, which is bad. folks should read the makefiles, and override EXTRA_OEMAKE to explicitly pass all the vars we care about on the make commandline | 16:18 |
| kergoth | it's because we pass -e that we then have to force makeflags, which makes it not carry the -e into sub-makes, otherwise a toplevel makefile couldn't append to our env var without that being overridden by the env in the submake | 16:18 |
| kergoth | heh | 16:19 |
| * kergoth is to blame for this (among other things) :) | 16:19 | |
| Ulfalizer | kergoth: okay, thanks for the explanation | 16:22 |
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| kergoth | the original idea was to minimize the recipes, make as many things Just Work as possible, but it's too implicit and risky, and encourages ignorance, so in retrospect, not the best of plans :) | 16:24 |
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| rburton | kergoth: the enthusiasm of youth eh | 16:27 |
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| sno | JaMa: do you have a resource where the other missing samba rdepends are from? | 17:00 |
| sno | it's always good to have a tester | 17:00 |
| sno | JaMa: my patch fixes more (eg. the aio), but not all of them | 17:00 |
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| JaMa | sno: "resource" ? like which recipe provides them? | 17:13 |
| sno | JaMa: like the people reported the issue(s) ;) | 17:14 |
| JaMa | I've reported it as you can see in the e-mail | 17:14 |
| sno | ok, so you're my tester when sending 2nd patch ;) | 17:15 |
| sno | JaMa: but for now I'd like to have the one tested / committed | 17:16 |
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| JaMa | sno: nothing will get merged to meta-oe until all these issues are fixed | 17:19 |
| sno | JaMa: why not? they're currently in there and half of them are fixed with that commit | 17:20 |
| JaMa | see my e-mails from today | 17:20 |
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| JaMa | but I'll include your change in next test | 17:21 |
| sno | JaMa: the reply to my patch or other ones? | 17:21 |
| JaMa | just won't merge it until we have final and complete fix | 17:21 |
| sno | JaMa: don't get me wrong, I'm happy to provide another patch for the remaining fixes | 17:22 |
| sno | but with the way how waf configure works, there might be dozen sleeping similar ones | 17:22 |
| JaMa | there shouldn't be (at least in layers included in my world build) | 17:23 |
| JaMa | I understand there aren't --disable options for waf, but at least listing them all in DEPENDS (or even using sed to disable them explicitly) will help us get deterministic builds | 17:24 |
| sno | that's not what I mean - you discovered now 3 more: cyrus-sasl, dmapi and libbsd plus figure out that --disable-pam does only half of the job | 17:25 |
| sno | but how many hidden dependencies sleep in the configure you never discover nowadays, because we don't have to exotic dependencies around? | 17:26 |
| sno | and tomorrow - meta-oe grows and more hidden dependencies pop up | 17:26 |
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| JaMa | that's why I have to re-execute test-dependencie script from time to time and fix new issues (from new or upgraded components) | 17:32 |
| JaMa | but if you manage to fix already known issues then I'll happily merge such fix | 17:32 |
| sno | JaMa: can we (and is it sane?) add patches depend on PACKAGECONFIG? | 17:32 |
| sno | I think about something like SRC_URI+= "${@base_contains('PACKAGECONFIG', 'ldap', '', 'remove-ldap-check.patch', d)} | 17:32 |
| JaMa | we can worry about unknowns later | 17:32 |
| JaMa | yes we can | 17:32 |
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| JaMa | but if they overlap, it's bad | 17:33 |
| JaMa | bacause you won't ever know which combination user will have | 17:33 |
| JaMa | that's why sed can work better here (if possible | 17:33 |
| sno | sed is suit, but for larger expressions it becomes evit :D | 17:34 |
| sno | for those who have to maintain the expressions | 17:34 |
| JaMa | agreed | 17:34 |
| sno | especially when qotes are in the expression | 17:34 |
| JaMa | "if possible" :) | 17:34 |
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| sno | I try to schedule the samba deps tomorrow - I wanted to prepare releases for MIME::Base32 and List::MoreUtils - let's see how far I come ... | 17:36 |
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| raykinsella78 | adding kernel-devsrc to IMAGE_FEATURES doesn't seem to have affect ... confused on how to get Kernel Headers in the SDK | 18:22 |
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| kergoth | [08:50:43] <kergoth>you'd have to add it to IMAGE_INSTALL in the image recipe you're running populate_sdk against, or add it to TOOLCHAIN_TARGET_TASK | 18:29 |
| kergoth | as i said earlier | 18:29 |
| kergoth | IMAGE_INSTALL != IMAGE_FEATURES | 18:30 |
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| raykinsella78 | wooops ... hang on | 18:31 |
| raykinsella78 | IMAGE_INSTALL += " \ | 18:31 |
| raykinsella78 | kernel-devsrc" | 18:31 |
| raykinsella78 | IMAGE_INSTALL is what I had ... still nothing. | 18:32 |
| raykinsella78 | never mind .. something is going wrong, its getting stripped. | 18:34 |
| fmeerkoetter | i have a problem modifying a kernel config. i am using meta-raspberrypi as my bsp. this layer provides a defconfig for the kernel. | 18:35 |
| fmeerkoetter | this defconfig contains CONFIG_BTRFS=m | 18:36 |
| fmeerkoetter | i would like to change this into =y | 18:36 |
| fmeerkoetter | todo this i created a kernel config fragment | 18:36 |
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| fmeerkoetter | named btrfs.cfg | 18:36 |
| fmeerkoetter | which i placed in one of my layers | 18:37 |
| fmeerkoetter | FILESEXTRAPATHS_prepend := "${THISDIR}/files:" | 18:37 |
| fmeerkoetter | SRC_URI += "file://btrfs.cfg" | 18:37 |
| fmeerkoetter | is used to pull it in | 18:37 |
| fmeerkoetter | i know that the btrfs.cfg is picked up | 18:38 |
| fmeerkoetter | bc. i see it in .....linux-raspberrypi/3.18.11+gitd64fa8121fca9883d6fb14ca06d2abf66496195e-r0/ | 18:38 |
| fmeerkoetter | alongside the defconfig | 18:38 |
| fmeerkoetter | but the resulting .config file has CONFIG_BTRFS=m | 18:39 |
| fmeerkoetter | any ideas? | 18:39 |
| raykinsella78 | http://starbaseatlanta.com/ebaypics/stmangab20495.jpg | 18:39 |
| raykinsella78 | missing the bb ... | 18:40 |
| fmeerkoetter | got it | 18:40 |
| fmeerkoetter | thanks :-) | 18:40 |
| raykinsella78 | kergoth: there is no kernel-devsrc.bb in Dizzy ... any suggestion other than the obvious (upgrade :-)) | 18:43 |
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| mario-goulart | fmeerkoetter: don't know about meta-raspberrypi, but some kernel recipes don't support configuration fragments. | 18:48 |
| fmeerkoetter | mario-goulart: that is good to know | 18:49 |
| fmeerkoetter | for that case i just have to provide my custom config? | 18:49 |
| mario-goulart | Yeah | 18:50 |
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| fmeerkoetter | mario-goulart: meta-raspberrypi supports fragments since mid-2014. jfyi | 18:55 |
| mario-goulart | fmeerkoetter: ah, ok. Thanks. | 18:57 |
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| fmeerkoetter | knu | 20:00 |
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| fishey1 | Say I want to have /var/log not be symlinked to /var/volatile , is there an easy way to do that? I've found the fs-perms.txt file that appears to control it, but it isn't clear how to override that file. | 20:40 |
| kergoth | fishey1: fs-perms corrects things in binary packages, e.g. a link defined there will be followed if a binary package tries to install a file into a volatile path. that won't handle making sure everything is what oyu want on target | 20:41 |
| kergoth | for what you want, you'd have to modify volatiles in the case of sysvinit, and tmpfiles.d in the case of systemd | 20:41 |
| kergoth | sad to say we don't have a single consistent wayt o handle that | 20:41 |
| kergoth | that said, i'm pretty sure /var/log is already handled via volatile | 20:41 |
| kergoth | so you shouldn't have to do anything in that regard | 20:42 |
| fishey1 | kergoth: the issue is that bitbake gives me an error when trying to build the image when I try to have a real directory named /var/log/journal (appended to base_files) | 20:42 |
| fishey1 | I don't want it to be volatile, I want it to be persistent | 20:42 |
| kergoth | that makes sense, becuase you can't package files into a volatile path | 20:42 |
| kergoth | gotcha | 20:42 |
| fishey1 | error " * extract_archive: Cannot create symlink from ./var/log to 'volatile/log': File exists." | 20:43 |
| kergoth | you'd have to remove it both from fs-perms and also from volatiles in the initscripts package for sysvinit and tmpfiles for systemd | 20:43 |
| kergoth | we really need to improve the way we do this | 20:43 |
| kergoth | also we should spot cases where we're trying to package files in a volatile path and just error out at packaging time rather than at rootfs construction time | 20:44 |
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| fishey1 | kergoth: can I do that from a layer? this is really a distro configuration choice, and I'd like to avoid maintaining a fork of meta. | 20:44 |
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| fishey1 | (the fs-perms part, the tempfiles stuff I'm sure is fixable) | 20:45 |
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| kergoth | fairly sure it'll search the layers for it | 20:47 |
| kergoth | so just set your layer to a higher priority, move it first in BBLAYERS, and put it in your layer in the expected path | 20:47 |
| kergoth | (technically the bblayers order is a factor here, not the bbfile layer priority, just mentioend that for consistency) | 20:48 |
| fishey1 | so create a copy of the fs-perms.txt with my modifications to it (removal of that line) | 20:48 |
| fishey1 | and make sure it's earlier in the BBLAYERS list? | 20:48 |
| kergoth | yep | 20:48 |
| kergoth | afaik that should work | 20:48 |
| fishey1 | ok, I'll try it. Thanks. | 20:48 |
| kergoth | np | 20:49 |
| kergoth | but again, that'll just avoid the redirection when building packages, not what ends up on target until you deal with volatiles/tmpfiles | 20:49 |
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| fishey1 | ack | 20:53 |
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| kergoth | I'd like to see us split off the base tmpfiles configuration, ship a tmpfiles population script/tool for use in sysvinit images, and deprecate volatiles | 20:57 |
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| kergoth | Has anyone figure out how to search worth a damn for info on path relocation fixes? searching for relocation invariably gives you results relating to linker and loader relocation stuff, not relocation on disk | 20:58 |
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| jcreekmore | Is there any way I can use KERNEL_MODULE_AUTOLOAD from outside of a kernel bitbake file? I have one kernel that I am wanting to share between several rootfs images, but each of those have different module autoload requirements. If I try to put the KERNEL_MODULE_AUTOLOAD line inside the rootfs BB file, it doesn't get picked up. | 21:20 |
| kergoth | afaik KERNEL_MODULE_AUTOLOAD just writes a file in /etc. you could write your own via a ROOTFS_POSTPROCESS_COMMAND function or a custom binary package/recipe | 21:21 |
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| kergoth | specifically, write a .conf file to /etc/modules-load.d/ | 21:21 |
| kergoth | one line per module nmae | 21:21 |
| kergoth | see the man pages in any linux system for details | 21:21 |
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| bluelightning | fortunately it's trivial to work around, but it's possible we should rethink how it's implemented | 21:22 |
| jcreekmore | OK, thanks. I was just making sure that there wasn't any more magic that had to happen. | 21:22 |
| Cardoe | bluelightning: It would be nice to do it external to the kernel build. | 21:23 |
| bluelightning | indeed | 21:24 |
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| rburton | YoctoAutoBuilder: DAMN YOU | 21:42 |
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| edtyler | Is there a may to create a directory in the root of the rootfs to use as a mountpoint specified in fstab? I tried install -d ${D}/mymountpoint, but do_rootfs failed | 22:14 |
| bluelightning | edtyler: you would probably do that by defining a shell function to do that (using mkdir -p ${IMAGE_ROOTFS}/mymountpoint) then adding a call to that function to ROOTFS_POSTPROCESS_COMMAND | 22:19 |
| bluelightning | (both of those would go in your image recipe) | 22:19 |
| kergoth | i hate the new limitations of ROOTFS_POSTPROCESS_COMMAND | 22:21 |
| kergoth | it used to be able to be any shell code, now it's function names only | 22:21 |
| kergoth | i get the idea, be able to add python function hooks as well, but it's really irritating to have to include a .inc just to touch a file in the rootfs | 22:21 |
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| edtyler | bluelightning: Thanks. doing that or having a "firstboot" script called from rc.local was my fallback. So it sounds like the rootfs staging does not allow placing arbitrary directories or files in the root directory. Correct? | 22:35 |
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| bluelightning | edtyler: I'm not quite sure what you mean by rootfs staging | 22:42 |
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| edtyler | bluelightning: Sorry. I meant the process by which files are transferred from each package's area to the place where the rootfs is built (build/tmp/work/cgtqmx6-poky-linux-gnueabi/bit-linux-image/1.0-r0/rootfs) in my case. I can put files most any plave I desire, except the root directory. | 22:45 |
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| bluelightning | edtyler: FYI the only way things get from ${D} to the final image is through packaging | 22:47 |
| bluelightning | a few things could have prevented that from working - maybe that path wasn't packaged (it wouldn't have been by default); or alternatively maybe empty directories are being ignored, I'm not sure what the semantics are there | 22:48 |
| bluelightning | either way the package probably ended up empty and thus was never produced, leading to an error when do_rootfs expected it to still be there | 22:48 |
| edtyler | bluelightning: Thanks for your help. I need to learn more about the phases of Yocto recipe operation. | 22:48 |
| bluelightning | in this instance creating such a directory via the method I described is probably the correct approach vs. trying to do it through a recipe | 22:49 |
| bluelightning | unless it's required by a specific application though I guess | 22:49 |
| bluelightning | time to head out, g'night all | 22:49 |
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