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| gourve_l | hi | 10:36 |
| gourve_l | I have a recipe wich inherit from cmake. I'd like to add c++ headers in the -dev package. With cmake I can put headers in usr/include/<myproject>/ but then bitbake tells me that this directory (and all .h in it) are not shipped. | 10:40 |
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| gourve_l | I'd like to avoid a FILES_${PN}-dev += "${includedir}/*" or something close | 10:41 |
| gourve_l | I saw that the recipe (poky) to build taglib inherit from cmake and include headers in their -dev package. But I don't see how they succeeded. Does someone know how to ship directly headers? | 10:45 |
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| -YoctoAutoBuilder- build #557 of poky-tiny is complete: Failure [failed BuildImages] Build details are at http://autobuilder.yoctoproject.org/main/builders/poky-tiny/builds/557 | 14:14 | |
| rburton | damnit! | 14:22 |
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| Ulfalizer | say i build two different versions of a package that only differ in a (runtime) configuration file. what's the recommended approach to avoid having to build the package twice? | 14:30 |
| Ulfalizer | i guess one approach would be to install different configuration files in do_install. is there a way to do that without rerunning earlier steps? | 14:31 |
| Ulfalizer | i'm being a bit vague deliberately. not sure if it's even worth the trouble. | 14:31 |
| Ulfalizer | bit vague as in i might be approaching things wrong in the first place :) | 14:32 |
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| Comrade17_ | hello, are there any plans/examples of embedded pypy support in yocto? | 16:12 |
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| t0mmy_ | outch ! | 16:20 |
| CTtpollard | bang | 16:21 |
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| mirus17 | hello, are there any examples/plans for embedded pypy support? | 16:23 |
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| rburton | huh, a pile of builds failed at the same time | 16:26 |
| rburton | oh, right | 16:26 |
| rburton | whoops | 16:26 |
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| JaMa | joshuagl: do you plan to backport libgudev to jethro or will you take my gst-* patches to fix builds without gudev? | 16:42 |
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| JaMa | rburton: I'm testing latest tune changes with scripts/tune/test.sh script http://git.openembedded.org/openembedded-core-contrib/log/?h=jansa/tune2-test and even when the found issues probably aren't caused by one of my changes, there will be some follow-up fixes | 17:03 |
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| rburton | JaMa: ok, they're in mut now. shall i remove them, or can the fixes follow in later? | 17:04 |
| JaMa | did you include all of them or just some? | 17:06 |
| nerdboy | moin | 17:07 |
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| JaMa | Testing DEFAULTTUNE armv7at-neon (48/78) for fake MACHINE fake-thunderx (11/44) | 17:07 |
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| JaMa | using memres bitbake for this test is couple orders faster :) | 17:08 |
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| * armpit fake-thunderX.... made me laugh | 17:56 | |
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| kergoth | Those should have been caught really early on in the design | 18:33 |
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| rburton | otavio: http://errors.yoctoproject.org/Errors/Details/22213/ <— lttng-modules fail :( | 18:42 |
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| fray | whois RP | 19:01 |
| fray | (missing / ooops) | 19:01 |
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| * paulg figures RP better be RP. :) | 19:14 | |
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| fray | whois tells you if the person is active and/or in the current chennl | 19:15 |
| fray | i.e.: whois fray | 19:15 |
| fray | : idle : 0 hours 0 mins 6 secs (signon: Mon Nov 30 12:48:52 2015) | 19:15 |
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| kergoth | Just ran into a failure due to a recipe obeying TUNE_CCARGS directly rather than via HOST_CC_ARCH. It'd be nice to exert some more control over what vars can be referenced from where | 19:22 |
| * kergoth ponders | 19:22 | |
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| * fray decides building for 'qemux86-84' isn't going to work too well, and picks a more proper name.. ;) | 19:35 | |
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| fray | ...and 5 minutes stairing at it trying to figure out why it wasn't working | 19:35 |
| * kergoth chuckles | 19:36 | |
| kergoth | shouldn't it fail early given the machine was invalid? | 19:36 |
| fray | comedy of errors colluded to giving me a bad tune as well as some python exceptions.. | 19:37 |
| fray | it DID say somewhere in the message set about the machine,b ut it was burried in the other crap | 19:37 |
| fray | so of course I thought it was the other crap causing the bad machine.. ;) | 19:37 |
| kergoth | ugh | 19:37 |
| kergoth | hate it when that happens | 19:37 |
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| rburton | kergoth: you understand -S right | 21:47 |
| kergoth | for the most part, yes | 21:47 |
| * kergoth wonders whatever happened to the auto-dbg packaging bits | 21:47 | |
| rburton | oh yes, RP mentioned that to me on friday | 21:48 |
| rburton | we have competing branches :) | 21:48 |
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| rburton | kergoth: i was hoping 'bitbake world -S none ; git checkout foo ; bitbake world -S printdiff' would show me the differences in metadata introduced by foo | 21:49 |
| rburton | but its spending its time moaning on about various stupid things | 21:49 |
| fray | rburton, fi you are inclined, see the patch I just sent to oe-core.. :P This turned into a real problem for us on mingw32 | 21:49 |
| fray | a core-image-minimal toolchain for qemux86-64 went from a few hundred MB, to 1.6 GB.. | 21:49 |
| fray | almost all of the size difference is attributable to the original change.. | 21:50 |
| rburton | ha | 21:50 |
| kergoth | rburton: the thing to remember is that -S printdiff will check both SSTATE_DIR and STAMPS_DIR. the former is a "find the sstates which are closest to the things we want to build, then compare those to the present" | 21:50 |
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| kergoth | but if all you want to do is an equivalent of bitbake-whatchanged, thats overkill and not at all what you're looking for | 21:50 |
| fray | it's all cause windows doesn't have a concept of symlinks.. so tar, winzip, etc will simply duplicate code for each symlink.. | 21:50 |
| rburton | kergoth: yeah whatchanged but without the actual build | 21:50 |
| kergoth | so i advise overriding SSTATE_DIR to an empty directory if you're wanting to do something like what you're wanting | 21:50 |
| fray | having a dozen unnecessary symlinks to toolchains that ren't actually builtis a problem | 21:50 |
| rburton | righto | 21:50 |
| kergoth | that way it only examines STAMPS_DIR and doesn't check sstate at all (theres' nothing to check) | 21:50 |
| kergoth | should get better results that way | 21:51 |
| kergoth | admittedly i've never messed with world, but it should work fine afaik | 21:51 |
| fray | 'universe' is way more fun then world.. ;) | 21:51 |
| kergoth | hehe | 21:51 |
| kergoth | i always forget about that one | 21:51 |
| fray | it's a great way to see the strangest failures.. | 21:51 |
| kergoth | oh, that reminds me. bitbake-whatchanged is now of limited usefulness, it modifies STAMPS_DIR, and now STAMPS_DIR ends up in the checksums | 21:51 |
| kergoth | so it cluters up the output with those changes | 21:51 |
| kergoth | clutters, even | 21:51 |
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| fray | that seems to be less then optimal | 21:51 |
| kergoth | indeed | 21:52 |
| rburton | erm yeah patch or bug please :) | 21:52 |
| rburton | kergoth: so set SSTATE_DIR to /my/empty/dir ; git checkout works ; bitbake world -S none ; git checkout broken ; bitbake world -S printdiff? | 21:52 |
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| kergoth | yep | 21:53 |
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| * rburton tries | 21:54 | |
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| rburton | hmph still not working | 21:57 |
| rburton | Task xserver-xf86-config:do_fetch couldn't be used from the cache because: | 21:57 |
| rburton | We need hash 2a5ddaed8367faf79ca990a978b1a00c, closest matching task was f31bb145eb335d6bb07a8b4167c76acc | 21:57 |
| rburton | Checksum for file xorg.conf changed from d41d8cd98f00b204e9800998ecf8427e to c6d249b6c47777305afbc33a299d831b | 21:57 |
| rburton | lies | 21:57 |
| rburton | my diff is just a change to the packageconfig logic | 21:57 |
| kergoth | hmm, that's odd. remnants in STAMPS_DIR? wipe tmp before the -S none? | 21:58 |
| * kergoth shrugs | 21:58 | |
| rburton | yeah maybe | 21:58 |
| adtec | Hi, I have a quick question. Does Yocto have any tools that will synchronize an SDK across multiple workstations? | 22:01 |
| rburton | kergoth: still bust :/ | 22:01 |
| kergoth | hmm, really odd. try bitbake-whatchanged and grep out the stamps_dir change delta? | 22:02 |
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| bluelightning | adtec: not with the standard SDK; the extensible SDK (which is effectively in beta in 2.0) provides the ability to update an existing install to a newer published version | 22:11 |
| rburton | kergoth: looks like i really need a build at some point | 22:11 |
| adtec | bluelightning: Thank's for the info! Do you know if there is a release date set? | 22:15 |
| bluelightning | adtec: well, it's already in the 2.0 release | 22:16 |
| adtec | bluelightning: Oh, good point. I will have to check it out then! | 22:16 |
| bluelightning | unfortunately we're a bit short on documentation | 22:17 |
| bluelightning | but briefly building it is as simple as bitbake -c populate_sdk_ext <imagename> | 22:17 |
| bluelightning | to publish it so you can upgrade from it you run oe-publish-sdk /path/to/sdk/installer.sh /path/to/http/shared/directory | 22:18 |
| bluelightning | then from each installed instance you run devtool sdk-update | 22:18 |
| bluelightning | you can have the server URL pre-set in the installed SDK by setting SDK_UPDATE_URL when you build the ext SDK | 22:18 |
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| adtec | Very interesting. I've been reading up on Puppet and Chef automation tools, but it would be nice to keep everything under Yocto. | 22:20 |
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| kergoth | rburton: hmm, that shouldn't be necessary, must be a bug somewhere | 22:22 |
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| rburton | hm | 22:52 |
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| rburton | replacing libjpeg with jpeg-turbo means debian-named packages go backwards in version | 22:53 |
| rburton | lilbjpeg_9a -> libjpeg_8d+1.4.4 | 22:53 |
| rburton | don't really want to epoch it | 22:53 |
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| kergoth | should see how debian does it. they use libjpeg-turbo by default iirc (as does every other major distro afaikO), could see how the migration was handled | 23:08 |
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| khem` | kergoth: we have been using libjpeg-turbo | 23:33 |
| khem` | what issues do u see ? | 23:33 |
| kergoth | none, look above to rburton's comment | 23:34 |
| khem` | I signed in late | 23:34 |
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| RP1 | kergoth: we need to beat up the printdiff logic so it works :/ | 23:39 |
| RP1 | kergoth: I had various ideas I was testing like preferring dates. Having an ability to ignore the sstate mirrors also sounds desirable | 23:40 |
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| khem` | RP: howdy | 23:50 |
| khem` | RP: I was reading through yuor email about autotools | 23:51 |
| khem` | There was a study done by Electric Fence on OE and they report that we spend about 25-30% time in confgure step | 23:51 |
| khem` | one approach could be to use caches input to configure and not reconfigure at all | 23:52 |
| khem` | this would make the builds more reproducible as well | 23:52 |
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| RP | khem`: I've wondered about that. The caches actually buy very little in most cases from what I've see | 23:55 |
| RP | khem`: Not running autoreconf but say patching instead sounds good until you try and figure out the details in practise. I'm sure it could be done though. | 23:56 |
| khem` | RP: yes practically it could be a hard nut | 23:56 |
| RP | khem`: FWIW I have a few more interesting findings coming, particularly in that limiting configure to a single CPU core seems to help a lot from a cache trash perspective | 23:56 |
| khem` | I look at it as a same features being config'ed in and out on all builds | 23:57 |
| RP | khem`: I just posted on LKML today asking questions too. No answers yet though :/ | 23:57 |
| khem` | makes it good we might loose flexibility | 23:57 |
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| khem` | oh so pinning it to single CPU is better ? | 23:58 |
| RP | khem`: I can't help shake the feeling this usecase is exposing some nasty issue in the kernel :/ | 23:58 |
| RP | khem`: massively | 23:58 |
| kergoth | huh, interesting | 23:58 |
| khem` | hmm smells like scheduler | 23:58 |
| RP | khem`: Its dcache loads | 23:58 |
| khem` | RP: did you try different distros ? | 23:58 |
| RP | khem`: no, I have tried rebuilding kernels and playing though | 23:58 |
| * RP needs to write the next performance post... | 23:59 | |
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