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| mckoan | good morning | 08:43 |
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| Ulfalizer | there seems to be a potential race condition in package_manager.py in OpkgIndexer.write_index(). if e.g. "all" appears twice in ALL_MULTILIB_PACKAGE_ARCHS/SDK_PACKAGE_ARCHS/MULTILIB_ARCHS, then two opkg-make-index instances will be run in parallel on tmp/deploy/ipk/all/Packages. i think this is what causes https://www.mail-archive.com/yocto@yoctoproject.org/msg22808.html. we are seeing the same error. | 09:04 |
| Ulfalizer | any comments? | 09:04 |
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| mahmutov | hi | 13:00 |
| mahmutov | i want to ask a question | 13:01 |
| Crofton | just ask | 13:04 |
| mahmutov | yocto project is like lfs | 13:05 |
| mahmutov | ? | 13:05 |
| mahmutov | i want to make a small distro (64bit multilib musl based ) | 13:06 |
| mahmutov | can i use yocto | 13:06 |
| mahmutov | i saw this link git://git.yoctoproject.org/meta-intel -b jethro | 13:08 |
| mahmutov | is it just for intel mainboards or can i use it for amd mainboards? | 13:08 |
| mahmutov | shortly can we make a distro like debian,arch,gentoo with yocto ? | 13:09 |
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| Crofton | short answer is yes | 13:17 |
| Crofton | that is what OE is for | 13:18 |
| mahmutov | amd is supprtoen | 13:18 |
| mahmutov | ? | 13:19 |
| mahmutov | supporten by yocto? | 13:19 |
| mahmutov | well can i pick what i want ? | 13:19 |
| mahmutov | e.g musl instead glib | 13:19 |
| mahmutov | ee.g i dont want use systemd | 13:19 |
| mahmutov | just curious,why yocto is not famous like lfs or other toolchains | 13:23 |
| mahmutov | is there any desktop distro that you know based yocto | 13:23 |
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| Crofton | supported, I type bad | 13:28 |
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| Crofton | yes, you can chose musl and sysvinit | 13:28 |
| mahmutov | good news. | 13:30 |
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| mahmutov | what about big distro like debian-arch... | 13:30 |
| mahmutov | do you know a project | 13:31 |
| mahmutov | that uses yocto for desktop systems | 13:31 |
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| mahmutov | or how can i create? | 13:38 |
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| minipada | any idea how to set properly armhf as an architecture for the package manager ? | 14:01 |
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| fray | in what capacity, and what package manager? | 14:10 |
| fray | package arch, compilation arch, etc? | 14:10 |
| fray | (and AFAIK, 'armhf' as a package are is invalid. There isn't enough information there to tell us what kind of package you are installing for compatibility) | 14:10 |
| minipada | I'd like to install packages with apt-get. Problem is I kinda forced the compilation of armhf setting the package_deb.bbclass with DPKG_ARCH ?= "armhf" but on the system itself, I have to force install the deb files because he setup is done for armel | 14:13 |
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| fray | ya, sounds like you broke the configuration. | 14:23 |
| fray | The package arch of the system is defined by the tune files (and recipes).. and the package manager itself should have been setup to match as appropriate.. | 14:23 |
| fray | I don't use deb, just opkg and rpm -- both of which do work in this configuration, I'd assume deb does as well. | 14:24 |
| fray | If you don't like the package architecture of your configured system, you can change it -- but you need to make sure everything is consistent. | 14:24 |
| fray | The main package architecture is defined in bitbake.conf as: | 14:25 |
| fray | bitbake.conf:PACKAGE_ARCH ??= "${TUNE_PKGARCH}" | 14:25 |
| fray | You would likely need to change that to your custom value(s) if you wanted something different. Also there are other things that check that PACKAGE_ARCH is contained in other lists, so those lists will have to be defined for your custom configuration as well | 14:26 |
| fray | -if- the issue is simply that apt-get isn't confgiured properly to match the constructed system -- then that is a very different (and likely easier) problem to solve | 14:26 |
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| minipada | oh ok | 14:31 |
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| minipada | yeah there is clearly no consistency, I'm gonna try, it seems tricky | 14:34 |
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| mahmutov | anybody tried yocto in x86_64 arch? | 14:35 |
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| minipada | is there a way to see complete lists of valid PACKAGE_ARCH, MACHINE_ARCH ? | 14:45 |
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| vmeson | mahmutov: yes, many people use yocto to build x86-64 (or sub-arch) targets. | 14:54 |
| mahmutov | any example? | 14:54 |
| mahmutov | i want to use it too | 14:54 |
| mahmutov | but if ican build a distro like dubuntu,arch or any | 14:55 |
| mahmutov | or any desktop project based on yocto | 14:55 |
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| LetoThe2nd | mahmutov: usually it makes sense to say "if i want something like debian - then i use debian" | 14:59 |
| mahmutov | no it isnt answer :) | 14:59 |
| mahmutov | it is easy answer | 14:59 |
| LetoThe2nd | mahmutov: while its technically possible to use poky as the foundation of a full-featured desktop distribution, it is nowhere trivial. neither in terms of time nor technical resources needed | 15:00 |
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| LetoThe2nd | mahmutov: so of course, go ahead and build something for one or two desktops to toy around. there's even a bootable iso target supported. but don't expect it to be comparable to the big names you mentioned. | 15:00 |
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| mahmutov | ok first i dont want compare big names | 15:01 |
| LetoThe2nd | why did you use them then? | 15:01 |
| mahmutov | just i want to make my own system | 15:01 |
| mahmutov | i was looking lfs a while ago | 15:02 |
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| mahmutov | i want to make a distro from strach | 15:02 |
| mahmutov | from source | 15:02 |
| LetoThe2nd | use poky, x86_64 machine and output format iso. then play around. | 15:02 |
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| mahmutov | ok let me look | 15:03 |
| mahmutov | also i want to use newer versions of packages | 15:04 |
| mahmutov | like gcc5.3 | 15:04 |
| LetoThe2nd | why don't you start with something working first, and then adjust step by step? | 15:05 |
| mahmutov | how? | 15:07 |
| LetoThe2nd | 16:02 < LetoThe2nd> use poky, x86_64 machine and output format iso. then play around. | 15:08 |
| mahmutov | i want to make some works auto | 15:08 |
| mahmutov | like toolchaşşn,etc. | 15:08 |
| mahmutov | toolchain | 15:08 |
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| LetoThe2nd | have you ever looked at the build process and what it does before saying what you want? | 15:10 |
| LetoThe2nd | i find it a bit hard to talk about things otherwise. | 15:10 |
| LetoThe2nd | the yocto project quick start documentation is an excellent source of information there, even including exact steps to follow along for a first try! | 15:12 |
| mahmutov | ok i will look | 15:13 |
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| dtran11 | Hi, can anyone tell me if native recipes are for the target or host? Thanks | 16:20 |
| dtran11 | for example, qttools and qttools-native | 16:20 |
| dtran11 | if i am cross compiling for an ARM system on my laptop, will qttools be for the ARM system and qttools-native be for the x86? | 16:21 |
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| kergoth | dtran11: yes | 16:25 |
| dtran11 | thanks | 16:25 |
| dtran11 | i always used the native term to mean natively on the target | 16:26 |
| dtran11 | so i have to reverse my thinking | 16:26 |
| karobar | does anyone know how to properly run a custom driver installation script from a bitbake task? I'm having difficulties with the kernel headers not being found | 16:29 |
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| fray | native is host, nativesdk is "SDK host", cross is "runs on the host, and does something target specific", crosssdk "runs on the host and builds for the SDK host", cross-canadian "builds on the host, runs on the SDK, targets the 'target'" | 16:34 |
| fray | and "target" (or no specific name) is target software | 16:34 |
| fray | the naming is very host-machine specific | 16:35 |
| dtran11 | fray, thanks for the detailed explanation | 16:37 |
| tripzero2 | kergoth: are you involved with the git.yoctoproject.org at all? | 16:39 |
| kergoth | nope | 16:40 |
| tripzero2 | know who is on this channel? | 16:40 |
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| fray | are you having problems w/ the git server or looking for write access? | 16:50 |
| fray | I can likely direct you to the right person, just need to know hwat you need | 16:50 |
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| ryansturmer | I know this question probably comes up a thousand times a day, but I'm working on a custom recipe, and it doesn't seem to be pulling my latest version from git | 16:58 |
| ryansturmer | I have bitbake -c clean myrecipe | 16:59 |
| ryansturmer | and bitbake -c cleansstate myrecipe | 16:59 |
| fray | what is your srcrev set to? autorev or a specific version? | 16:59 |
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| fray | if it's autorev it should, if it's a specific version you have to update it to match each time you change the git server | 17:00 |
| ryansturmer | I do a git clone myself in the do_fetch step | 17:00 |
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| fray | the system when it runs through it's steps will adjust to match what the recipe says.. | 17:01 |
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| fray | if you are going around the standard do_fetch behavior and running the commands yourself, then you'll have to do similar in do_unpack as well | 17:01 |
| ryansturmer | so my do_fetch looks like 'git clone https://github.com/myrepos.git ${S} --depth=1' | 17:01 |
| ryansturmer | oh yeah? | 17:02 |
| ryansturmer | I haven't implemented a do_unpack | 17:02 |
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| fray | do fetch and do unpack work together to prepare the software for patching (do patch).. then what runs after that assumes it's all setup properly.. | 17:02 |
| fray | if you override one you may have to adjust the others.. | 17:02 |
| fray | is there a reason you are not just using the proper SRC_URI field and letting bitbake handle the fetch,unpack for you? | 17:03 |
| ryansturmer | I want to do a shallow clone, rather than a full clone of the repos | 17:03 |
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| fray | any particular reason? (Shallow cloning has been something that is being generically worked on in order to save space) | 17:04 |
| ryansturmer | It's a space saving feature, mostly | 17:04 |
| ryansturmer | I'll do a quick build with the standard fetch unpack | 17:04 |
| ryansturmer | and see if it installs the correct version | 17:04 |
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| maciejjo | Hi, I have some trouble with dependencies to kernel tasks | 17:05 |
| maciejjo | I am trying to do something after uImage is copied to deploy dir | 17:05 |
| maciejjo | I added my code to some do_deploy_append() function | 17:05 |
| maciejjo | but I am always getting cp: cannot stat `/yocto_bld/deploy/images/target/uImage': No such file or directory | 17:05 |
| fray | sounds like your path is wrong.. OR you are trying to do this before the uImage is deployed | 17:06 |
| maciejjo | path is right | 17:06 |
| maciejjo | if I turn off this code, uImage is copied to this exact location | 17:06 |
| fray | that copy happens during the deploy. Your step is running BEFORE the deploy | 17:07 |
| fray | you need to fix your dependencies from one task to another | 17:07 |
| maciejjo | ok, I assumed that do_deploy_append happens after do_deploy | 17:07 |
| fray | no.. do_deploy_append says "add my code to do_deploy | 17:07 |
| fray | there are pre and post chunks.. as well as other _appends that may be running.. | 17:08 |
| maciejjo | ok, so I need to add task that depends on deploy then | 17:08 |
| maciejjo | ? | 17:08 |
| fray | order of _appends is not defined.. | 17:08 |
| fray | you want a new task that depends on deploy | 17:08 |
| maciejjo | ok, thanks | 17:08 |
| ryansturmer | Ok that fixed it | 17:09 |
| ryansturmer | but why - I'd still like to be able to do my shallow clone | 17:09 |
| fray | because you had mismatches in what the system was doing.. if you overide fetch you need also overide unpack so thing remain consistent | 17:09 |
| ryansturmer | So for unpack I do - what, nothing? My install step literally copies the shallow git repos to the destination rootfs | 17:10 |
| ryansturmer | so do I just override unpack and return? | 17:10 |
| fray | Are you adjusting the checksums and such, since you aren't cloning down a specific revision, you need to tell bitbake to always run the do_fetch no matter what.. | 17:10 |
| fray | (which in turn will re-run all of hte other code) | 17:11 |
| fray | the built in fetcher has mechanisms in place that (even with AUTOREV) will only rebuild the package if the upstream rev has changed.. | 17:11 |
| fray | you'll need ot duplicate that kind of code.. | 17:11 |
| fray | otherwise the system will assume it's been run and just not re-run it.. | 17:11 |
| ryansturmer | buuuugh ok I'm sold I'll use the built in fetcher | 17:11 |
| ryansturmer | what a pita | 17:12 |
| fray | thats why all of this is in place to hide the mess from you. | 17:12 |
| ryansturmer | There's got to be a template for this kind of thing? I can't be the only one who wants to do this - | 17:12 |
| fray | As for shallow cloning a few people were working on it. I don't know the progress of their work, you might want to check in here and #oe to see who and what progress has been made.. | 17:12 |
| ryansturmer | I saw something about it a while back, but I'm bound to an old version of the build system anyway because it's vendor-furnished | 17:13 |
| ryansturmer | so any sparkling new advancements in fetch options are going to be lost on me anyhow. | 17:14 |
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| kergoth | actual shallow clones are unlikely to ever be supported, with the possible exception of the AUTOREV case, as we need to be able to fetch SRCREV, and we don't know at the time we run git clone how many commits deep SRCREV is from HEAD | 17:17 |
| kergoth | so we don't know the depth to use | 17:17 |
| ryansturmer | So in my case, I want to be able to pull a shallow clone (depth 1) at the current latest rev | 17:18 |
| ryansturmer | so AUTOREV would be exactly my use case | 17:18 |
| ryansturmer | The reason to pull the shallow clone is to save space, and because I'm not interested in the history | 17:18 |
| ryansturmer | But I do use git to update from that head, to future revs | 17:18 |
| ryansturmer | So the installed software, as a part of its update process, calls out to github or wherever for new versions, and pulls them down to install them. | 17:19 |
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| kergoth | we could likely implement support specifically for autorev eventually, leveraging the shallow mirror tarball handling from my work on shallow tarball generation, but it'd be constructed differently | 17:29 |
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| khem` | kergoth: being able to use git fetchers all around would be cool | 17:39 |
| kergoth | ? | 17:39 |
| khem` | kergoth: even as a patch tool | 17:39 |
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| kergoth | we already have a git patch tool, but i suppose the fetcher could learn to do that instead of having it in the metadata. not sure what value that would add, though | 17:40 |
| khem` | so if we have other SCMs or tarballs then convert the tree to git repo | 17:40 |
| khem` | during unpack and patch | 17:40 |
| khem` | I havent used git patch tool myself | 17:41 |
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| khem` | kergoth: can git patcher create git trees | 17:44 |
| khem` | from tarballs | 17:44 |
| khem` | if it can then I can switch to using it | 17:44 |
| khem` | as it becomes quite easy to work on component patches | 17:44 |
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| kergoth | iirc it uses am if it's already a repo and can do so, otherwise it uses apply and leaves it as not a git repo. but devtool modify -x will create the source tree as a git repo with each patch as a commit, so it sounds like that's what you want to be using.. | 17:48 |
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| fsdun | devtool rocks for patch development. | 17:53 |
| fsdun | maybe a switch to specify a collection is required | 17:53 |
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| ryansturmer | If I define SRC_URI and SRCREV, but then define do_fetch myself, what happens? | 18:05 |
| ryansturmer | Does the build system use the fetcher to get my code? or does it run my do_fetch function | 18:05 |
| ryansturmer | or both somehow? | 18:05 |
| rburton | it runs yours | 18:05 |
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| rburton | (don't do that, unless you plan to implementing caching/proxies/DL_DIR/etc) | 18:06 |
| ryansturmer | ls | 18:06 |
| ryansturmer | oops | 18:07 |
| ryansturmer | My difficulty is that I don't know how to tell the build system "yes go re-run the do_fetch every time" when I build | 18:07 |
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| ryansturmer | All I essentially want to do is run my own git clone, and copy the cloned repository directory to the destination | 18:09 |
| ryansturmer | and I want to be able to convince the build system that I've made changes upstream and that it needs to re-clone | 18:10 |
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| ryansturmer | I thought I could "cheat" and tell it autorev so that it would know to re-run the fetch every time there was a change, but I imagine that's done in the fetcher, and not really going to help me | 18:11 |
| ryansturmer | It seems like overriding the do_fetch to do my git pull, and then overriding the do_unpack to do basically nothing does what I'm looking to do. | 18:17 |
| khem` | kergoth: yes devtool I use | 18:21 |
| khem` | git patcher makes sense doin git am / git apply/ | 18:22 |
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| khem` | depending upong repo being gitfied | 18:22 |
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| dotb | Oh man, I have an older computer and I needed to complete over 4k tasks. I gave up and got a spot instance on EC2, 16 cores on SSD | 21:40 |
| dotb | Its screemin | 21:40 |
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| maciejjo | Hi, I have a question regarding tasks - what and where should be stated to actualy run a task during build? | 22:20 |
| maciejjo | I wrote function that should be run during kernel build, after deploy | 22:20 |
| maciejjo | and I did 'addtask func after do_deploy' | 22:20 |
| maciejjo | it is listed under possible tasks for kernel, I can run it manually | 22:21 |
| maciejjo | but I want it to be rerun during kernel build | 22:21 |
| kergoth | then you'll need to make it run before the default task | 22:22 |
| kergoth | add 'before do_build' to your addtask line | 22:22 |
| kergoth | there are numerous examples of this around the metadata | 22:22 |
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| maciejjo | thanks, did the trick | 22:24 |
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| Cardoe | when making a recipe that inherits autotools.. does the default do_compile() run a parallel make? | 22:53 |
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