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| adrians | hello! | 12:15 |
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| adrians | si there any way to get a package data from chache by searching after it's name from inside a class?! | 12:16 |
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| mcfrisk | Hi! Any ideas how to get contributed (proprietary) recipes into decent shape and to e.g. include full build dependencies? Sanity checks in jethro help a bit but seems like devels just compile the full images and by luck their sysroot has the needed dependencies, and then anyone else compiling from scratch is figuring out their missing dependencies. sstate cache is also contributing to this and hiding these problems. This is really an epidemic problem for us. Devel | 12:39 |
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| boucman_work | mcfrisk: I tend to clean everything, then "bitbake <the recipe>" and see what's missing | 12:41 |
| boucman_work | that's goode enough to fill DEPENDS, but it doesn't check needed distro features | 12:41 |
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| mcfrisk | boucman_work: yep, that's what I do too. But most of our developers and CI build jobs just build the main image, which in a sense is correct too. And teaching is really hard with more problems coming in than we have time to fix.. | 12:44 |
| boucman_work | yeah :( | 12:45 |
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| mcfrisk | (of course we knew about this sysroot reuse when reviewing yocto for our project but our feedback was conveniently ignored and now we need to deal with the fall out, sigh) | 12:46 |
| boucman_work | mcfrisk: you could have a once-a-week build job from scratch... there is no easy way unfortunately, since afaiu you can't uninstall a package from the build env (but I may be wrong, my yocto-fu isn't that high yet) | 12:46 |
| boucman_work | or do it at pre-release quality checks :P that's even more cruel :D | 12:46 |
| mcfrisk | heh, I can imagine trying to explain delaying release at late stage with this reason, it would not end well.. | 12:47 |
| neverpanic | mcfrisk: your initial msg was cut off after "for us. Devel" | 12:48 |
| * neverpanic would still like to implement separate per-recipe sysroots some time | 12:49 | |
| boucman_work | neverpanic: that would be good from a quality point of view, but it would kill the build times... | 12:50 |
| neverpanic | I'd like to put that hypothesis to the test. | 12:50 |
| neverpanic | Other packaging systems do it, it cannot be *that* bad; a couple of thousand hardlinks shouldn't matter compared to the build times of large packages | 12:51 |
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| neverpanic | I've seen a change that did this with overlayfs where the build times did not explode. | 12:52 |
| boucman_work | what other packaging ? | 12:52 |
| neverpanic | Debian, for example? | 12:52 |
| boucman_work | they do ? ok... | 12:52 |
| neverpanic | That's what sbuild/cowbuilder/pbuilder are about | 12:55 |
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| mcfrisk | and OBS | 12:58 |
| mcfrisk | but to me a build system must first be reliable, speed is secondary. I would not trade speed for reliability like bitbake has done now. | 12:58 |
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| davis | is there any way to determine for a shell on a target platform which particular image recipe was used to build it? | 13:00 |
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| Anticom | davis: probably 'oe-pkgdata-util find-path <path>' is what you're looking for | 13:41 |
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| davis | Anticom: thanks. i'll try that | 13:53 |
| Anticom | yw | 13:53 |
| davis | sadly, oe-<tab> does not show the exe in my path | 13:53 |
| davis | i'll be honest, the yocto project docs are so massive its overwelming | 13:54 |
| davis | i gave up trying to figure out why this project would build on ubuntu 12 desktop and not unbuntu 12 server or ubuntu 14 desktop/server | 13:55 |
| davis | and now I am just trying to figure outhow to dupe the image and create mods to make an image. | 13:55 |
| boucman_work | Anticom: davis asked to do that "on the target" and afaik that info is not recorded anywhere... | 13:55 |
| Anticom | ow mb | 13:56 |
| Anticom | davis: have you got runtime package management? | 13:56 |
| davis | not sure. We paid a company to build this yocto based sdk. I'm just trying to mod it. | 13:57 |
| davis | i did not build it so I'm just resuming my learning experiece with it again. | 13:57 |
| davis | on the target, dpkg and rpm do not work | 13:57 |
| boucman_work | did they provide a SDK or a complete yocto build system ? | 13:58 |
| boucman_work | and try opkg, that's another package management that yocto supports | 13:58 |
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| davis | it looks like its a busybox setup with some profivde exe | 13:58 |
| davis | opkg is there | 13:58 |
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| Anticom | davis: then try 'opkg search <path-to-file>' on your target | 13:59 |
| davis | hmm. opkg list-installed is blank | 13:59 |
| Anticom | o.O | 13:59 |
| Anticom | never used opkg but the docs say 'search' is able to search for files aswell instead of just packages | 14:00 |
| davis | opkg search top shows nothing | 14:00 |
| davis | but top can run on the box | 14:00 |
| davis | fwiw, top is a link to busybox | 14:01 |
| boucman_work | mk | 14:01 |
| davis | so perhaps this is a better question | 14:01 |
| boucman_work | i believe that means that your yocto was compiled without package management support and opkg binary was added after the fact | 14:02 |
| boucman_work | so no packaging info for normal files | 14:02 |
| boucman_work | is opkg also a link to busybox ? | 14:02 |
| davis | so I don't screw up the build system, .. | 14:02 |
| davis | one sec ill look | 14:02 |
| davis | opkg is a standalone binary | 14:03 |
| davis | so I don't screw up the build system, I'm thinking I should copy the setup_yocto script I used ot build the image I am running | 14:03 |
| davis | and then use hob somehow to create the image again. | 14:04 |
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| davis | use hob to build a custom version afterwards to add in some packages | 14:04 |
| davis | surely that would be the best way to extend the provided image and preserve the original | 14:05 |
| davis | learn some yocto in the process | 14:05 |
| boucman_work | I don't really like hob, I don't really understand what i'm doing when i'm using it... | 14:06 |
| davis | heh, ok scratch that then | 14:06 |
| davis | to be honest Im more familar with custom rolled linux builds, or dbox or buildroot | 14:07 |
| davis | like I said, yocto docs are massive and overwhelming to my limited ability | 14:07 |
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| davis | would I need to dupe the packages/src/builds dir to a new dir or could I create a new script in the build dir to start? | 14:12 |
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| ftonello | Hi all, does anyone have a suggestion on what how to generate an image that installs a package to an external filesystem (not the rootfs)? | 14:32 |
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| boucman_work | ftonello: I don't really understand your question | 14:41 |
| boucman_work | packages are generated first, then images are built by assembling packages | 14:42 |
| boucman_work | you can just get the package from tmp/deploy if that's what you are looking from | 14:42 |
| boucman_work | for | 14:42 |
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| btooth | anyone using armv8? i can not bitbake valgrind: not in COMPATIBLE_HOST | 14:42 |
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| sg | btooth, what is the valgrind version? | 14:56 |
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| btooth | sg: it valgrind shipped with fido: 3.10.1 | 15:01 |
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| sg | btooth, may be upgrade required (3.11). have not tried though | 15:02 |
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| davis | so, i'm confused | 15:14 |
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| davis | if I want to tweak a busybox setting. If I was using it standalone I would set my path to the my crosscompiler and do make menuconfig of busybox | 15:15 |
| ftonello | boucman_work: What I want is to deploy an image that generates a rootfs and a different user partition with files installed there from packages. | 15:15 |
| ftonello | Do you have any idea how to do this? | 15:15 |
| davis | if I am using yocto how do I do this? | 15:15 |
| davis | ls | 15:16 |
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| davis | so after I do a build, is there even a busybox build dir left around? | 15:23 |
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| neverpanic | if you have INHERIT += "rm_work" in your local.conf it isn't | 15:26 |
| neverpanic | otherwise it should be there | 15:26 |
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| btooth | sg: thanks! that worked | 15:36 |
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| kergoth | davis: that depends on whether it built from scratch or from sstate, too. adding -C fetch would force it to build from scratch if that's an issue | 15:40 |
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| davis | kergoth: i am talking with a fellow in #oe. he was telling me about the bitbake -c menuconfig busybox method | 15:41 |
| davis | i'm tryign to get that to work | 15:41 |
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| btooth | where can i find pmap and vmstat? any idea? | 15:42 |
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| kergoth | btooth: procps | 15:43 |
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| btooth | kergoth: thanks :) | 15:49 |
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| RP | kergoth: any thoughts on http://git.yoctoproject.org/cgit.cgi/poky-contrib/commit/?h=rpurdie/wip&id=88266bdab594a832ef015d485d68967b1134d7b5 ? | 16:05 |
| RP | kergoth: our python function calling conventions and error handling is rather anti-python currently :( | 16:05 |
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| kergoth | agreed. that doesn't seem unreasonable to me | 16:07 |
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| khem | RP: its not clear what will be the new order, may be worth mentioning in commit msg as well as docs | 17:14 |
| khem | RP: I think it would alter the current behaviour so a note would be good | 17:15 |
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| khem | ndec: around ? | 17:54 |
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| kergoth | Does https://gist.github.com/kergoth/08c0772b6e57ad1af5ea6f836ffc423e seem reasonable? | 18:23 |
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| tripzero | how do I "rearrange the package generation order"? override PACKAGES in my recipe? | 18:26 |
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| tripzero | https://lists.yoctoproject.org/pipermail/yocto/2012-August/008906.html | 18:26 |
| kergoth | what exactly are you trying to fix? | 18:28 |
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| tripzero | i have a non-linked so in my dev package... even though I explicitly add it to FILES_${PN} | 18:29 |
| tripzero | the error seems identical to the one in the link | 18:30 |
| kergoth | i usually set something like: | 18:30 |
| kergoth | FILES_${PN} += "${libdir}/*${SOLIBSDEV}" | 18:30 |
| kergoth | FILES_SOLIBSDEV = "" | 18:30 |
| tripzero | ahh. i'll try | 18:30 |
| kergoth | which adds the .so to the main package, then prevents its inclusion in ${PN}-dev by wiping the intermediate variable it uses | 18:30 |
| kergoth | as i said in that email thread, read bitbake.conf | 18:30 |
| tripzero | yep. you did say that. I tried to find the needle in that haystack, but was confused by his reply | 18:32 |
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| kergoth | as with everything else dealing with oe/yocto, there are multuiple ways to do it | 18:33 |
| kergoth | their reply indicates they reordered PACKAGES, likely by overriding it entirely, to move ${PN} before ${PN}-dev | 18:33 |
| kergoth | but there's no real need to do that if you wipe FILES_SOLIBSDEV, as that removes the .so from FILES_${PN}-dev | 18:33 |
| kergoth | which frees ${PN} to pick it up instead | 18:34 |
| kergoth | overriding PACKAGES is not a great idea in general, as you won't pick up future changes to the definition in bitbake.conf | 18:34 |
| whatisgoingonher | Hi guys. I'm building core-image-minimal for the first time and download of all files took like 2 hours to this point. I did it previously some time ago and it took like 10 minutes or so.. What is going on? | 18:34 |
| whatisgoingonher | This is not related to my network | 18:34 |
| kergoth | either your DL_DIR wasn't shared between the two builds, or you updated your metadata and it's having to clone an updated kernel repo | 18:35 |
| kergoth | those are the most likely possibilities | 18:35 |
| kergoth | the kernel repo is >1gb, iirc, so the clone takes a while | 18:35 |
| kergoth | tripzero: with more recent bitbake/yocto you could also use _remove | 18:36 |
| kergoth | tripzero: i.e. FILES_${PN} += "${FILES_SOLIBSDEV}"; FILES_${PN}-dev_remove = "${FILES_SOLIBSSDEV}" | 18:36 |
| kergoth | like i said, lots of options :) | 18:37 |
| whatisgoingonher | kergoth: I have 1 Gbit connection. And this is clean clone of the latest yocto branch - not related to my previous work with yocto | 18:37 |
| tripzero | ooo, i like the _remove. that may work better | 18:37 |
| kergoth | whatisgoingonher: like i said, if you're using more recent metadata, it'll have to fetch all new sources. also you haven't said what task it's running. which fetch task is taking so long? | 18:37 |
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| whatisgoingonher | kergoth: http://pastebin.com/raw/MyC1HVEs | 18:39 |
| whatisgoingonher | kergoth: all tasks seems to fetch long..:( | 18:40 |
| tripzero | FILES_${PN}-dev_remove is correct? | 18:40 |
| kergoth | tripzero: i don't understand the question | 18:41 |
| kergoth | whatisgoingonher: then it's taking a long time to download the files. i don't really understand the confusion. upstream servers aren't always fast | 18:42 |
| kergoth | whatisgoingonher: feel free to read the do_fetch logs for the tasks in question | 18:42 |
| tripzero | if I want to remove a file from the dev package, FILES_${PN}-dev_remove = "${libdir}/foo.so" is the right way to do it? | 18:42 |
| kergoth | that's what i told you to do, yes | 18:42 |
| tripzero | hrm. how recent yocto do I need? | 18:43 |
| kergoth | not sure offhand, i'd guess at least 2.0 or newer, but that's a complete guess | 18:43 |
| whatisgoingonher | kergoth: ok, I'll check them later. But, if I didn't set DL_DIR before fetching (just use default value for everything) would I be able to reuse currently fetching data? | 18:45 |
| igor | someone know if is possible to set the package-priorities on a package? | 18:47 |
| whatisgoingonher | kergoth: Now I've got "WARNING: Failed to fetch URL http://ftp.gnu.org/gnu/gcc/gcc-5.2.0/gcc-5.2.0.tar.bz2, attempting MIRRORS if available" but then wget'd this file like in 10 seconds.. I guess there is something wrong with bitbake itself.. | 18:48 |
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| * armpit hmmm glibc-locale: 815 installed and not shipped files. [installed-vs-shipped] | 23:22 | |
| * armpit what did i do | 23:23 | |
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| Crofton | armpit, you should have used buildroot :) | 23:29 |
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| tripzero | do variables in PACKAGECONFIG ??= "foo" become overrides? For example FILES_${PN}_foo += "bar" | 23:39 |
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| kergoth | tripzero: no | 23:47 |
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