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Anticom | Hi all. Could someone elaborate the VIRTUAL_RUNTIME var a little more? There's virtually no documentation neither in the mega manual nor in the bb manual :/ | 09:04 |
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Anticom | I'm trying to figure out, why meta/recipes-connectivity/avahi/ is still installing an init-script, although i've got VIRTUAL_RUNTIME_initscripts = "" :/ | 09:04 |
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Ulfalizer | i just learned that package.bbclass adds a (>= <current version>) requirement to automatically added package dependencies, though not always from looking at the code. when wouldn't it get added? | 09:31 |
Anticom | Ulfalizer: Hm not sure but from tracing the SC of package.bbclass it seems it's comming from ASSUME_SHLIBS | 09:35 |
Anticom | https://github.com/openembedded/openembedded-core/blob/master/meta/classes/package.bbclass#L1685 ver_needed > shlib_provider > lib_ver > dep_pkg > e > assumed_libs > d.getVar('ASSUME_SHLIBS', True) | 09:37 |
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Ulfalizer | thanks. maybe it's just when it can't find the lib-to-package mapping, for whatever reason. ASSUME_SHLIBS seems to be a hint. | 09:40 |
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rubdos | Newbie here... I don't feel comfortable editing my build/conf/bblayers.conf. I shouldn't commit that file, as it contains absolute paths, depending on my system. If I want to build the image elsewhere, I'll have to reconfigure that file for that specific system, right? | 13:24 |
rubdos | How can I make it so that when the init scripts get sourced, the bblayers get configured automatically? | 13:24 |
CTtpollard | rubdos: something like this? http://git.projects.genivi.org/?p=genivi-demo-platform.git;a=blob;f=gdp-src-build/conf/bblayers.conf;h=66b2f26e5dafbfed89f8d2b102913c7701ba3926;hb=refs/heads/qemux86-64 | 13:26 |
rubdos | seems reasonable. You have a file somewhere in your scripts that copies over that file to build/conf? | 13:27 |
JaMa | halstead: was the openembedded-commits hook changed to send only the "digests" or is there some more complicated logic which decides if it will send individual patches or only the digest? | 13:27 |
rubdos | I have a feeling that yocto merely is a bunch of prefabbed bash scripts around openembedded and bitbake, right? | 13:28 |
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boucman_work | rubdos: technically, yocto is an organisation. most of the work done by yocto is done in oe-core/bitbake | 13:32 |
boucman_work | but yocto also provides a ton of recipes and infrastructure around oe | 13:32 |
rubdos | oh okay. I probably meant to say "poky" then :) | 13:32 |
boucman_work | poky is a distro for openembedded, just like angstrom is... i.e it's a usefull pre-configuration for building stuff | 13:33 |
rubdos | I see :) | 13:34 |
rubdos | I think I was more of expected "the Rails way"; something like convention over configuration, or something like that. Anyhow, it's useful in any case :) | 13:35 |
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kergoth | RP: will 2.2 be branched soon, after M4, or after release? is the branch point something covered in the release process, or is it unspecified? | 15:39 |
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RP | kergoth: I tend to branch fairly late as it only encourages people to send patches for master rather then concentrating on the release | 15:44 |
RP | kergoth: release date is at the end of the month so I'd guess at a couple of weeks but there isn't a fixed defined point | 15:45 |
kergoth | yeah, I figured, that makes sense. was just curious about whether that late point is defined, or if it varies | 15:45 |
kergoth | okay, thanks, that's what i was wondering | 15:45 |
kergoth | i'm starting to understand why linus has defined merge times, though that'd be hard to pull off without his lieutenants to gather changes | 15:45 |
kergoth | heh :) | 15:45 |
RP | kergoth: the feature freeze point does drive me completely insane every time around :/ | 15:47 |
RP | kergoth: There are at least a few people who do help gather the patches... | 15:48 |
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kergoth | yeah, i know saul does his consolidated merges, and ross does his mut stuff | 15:49 |
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igor3 | someone knows where is the .templateconf and how can I change it? | 17:22 |
igor3 | on the yocto manual only says that I must set the TEMPLATECONF var in the .templateconf, but the templateconf is inside the poky repository | 17:23 |
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igor3 | my problem is that poky sets the path starting from the OEROOT that points to poky path | 17:32 |
igor3 | there is a way to start from the updir? | 17:32 |
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kergoth | igor3: TEMPLATECONF can be set however you like, it doesn't have to be set via .templateconf | 17:35 |
kergoth | i.e. at mentor graphics, we have our own setup environment script in our layer which sets it (among other things) and then sources the default scripts | 17:35 |
seebs | Today I learned that there is a bug in the variable assignment tracking/display. | 17:36 |
igor3 | hummm... but the OEROOT will still pointing to poky path, it is the default? | 17:36 |
seebs | Which is that if you're looking at gdb's PACKAGECONFIG, the fact that PACKAGECONFIG[python] exists means that the tracker thinks PACKAGECONFIG is a python value. | 17:36 |
kergoth | seebs: ah, yes, i've seen that before too. nature of the beast, we're conflicting namespaces | 17:37 |
kergoth | igor3: why is that a problem? | 17:37 |
seebs | I'm trying to remove readline for mingw, and failing, because the PACKAGECONFIG[readline] is overriding anything else. And because I can't track stuff, I can't debug this well. I'm temporarily renaming the flag to [py] in my copy. | 17:38 |
igor3 | I want to set my own bblayers.conf with the path of my layer, but the OEROOT isnt pointing to my layer, so I have to put ../path | 17:38 |
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igor3 | it does not seems to be normal | 17:38 |
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igor3 | its the default if you want to create your own bblayer.conf? setting the paths with "../"? | 17:39 |
kergoth | i don't really see why that's a problem. setting paths relative to the core seems quite reasonable to me | 17:42 |
kergoth | seebs: renaming it in general seems like a good idea. we might want to add a sanity check. if PACKAGECONFIG[python] exists, error. (or func, or doc, or.. :) | 17:43 |
igor3 | nice, thank you kergoth | 17:45 |
seebs | I am not sure there's any other cases, and it makes SENSE to name it "python", it's just that we're overriding the flag namespace for two unrelated functions | 17:47 |
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seebs | Well, a lot more than two, probably. | 17:48 |
seebs | ... | 17:49 |
seebs | okay so for reference, i just spent something like an hour debugging my inability to control PACKAGECONFIG as expected... | 17:49 |
seebs | Because I was running my builds with SDKMACH=i686-mingw32 | 17:49 |
seebs | rather than SDKMACHINE=i686-mingw32 | 17:49 |
seebs | Congratulations to me, I have successfully april-fools-pranked myself, apparently. | 17:50 |
kergoth | seebs: this is just one of many cases where we needed a dictionary and abused flags to get one | 17:59 |
kergoth | downside to the current file format | 18:00 |
kergoth | we could use the variable name namespace, but then there'd be no way to get a list of available packageconfigs without iterating over every key in the datastore.. | 18:00 |
kergoth | heh | 18:00 |
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seebs | Yeah. We have a similar problem with the massive overloading of _. | 18:03 |
seebs | *thinks* | 18:03 |
Ulfalizer | overloading of _? where? | 18:08 |
Ulfalizer | kergoth: how are flags implemented internally? with a dictionary on each variable? | 18:10 |
seebs | We use _ for overrides, but also for special things like append/remove, and also often as just part of names. | 18:12 |
seebs | You can't make an override named "append". :) | 18:13 |
seebs | We had a really interesting behavior once involving "OVERRIDES_append = ..." | 18:13 |
Ulfalizer | ah, i see what you mean now | 18:13 |
Ulfalizer | heh | 18:13 |
seebs | It was pretty much nondeterministic, except that on any GIVEN system/build/set-of-layers, it seemed to be consistent. | 18:13 |
seebs | But we had at least one thing using that thing in an override, which worked in one environment and not in another. | 18:14 |
Ulfalizer | unrelated question, but do you know if any reparsing of files is involved in BBCLASSEXTENDS? is it still parsing once but mucking about with variable values afterwards? | 18:16 |
Ulfalizer | some uses of := together with BBCLASSEXTEND might be problematic in that case i guess :/ | 18:16 |
kergoth | Ulfalizer: no reparsing, no | 18:17 |
Ulfalizer | yeah, that's what i guessed | 18:17 |
Ulfalizer | thanks | 18:17 |
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kergoth | the metadata is copied for each variant, then the class is programmatically inherited, and the metadata re-finalized | 18:18 |
kergoth | see _create_variants() & friends in bitbake/lib/bb/parse/ast.py | 18:18 |
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Ulfalizer | kk | 18:18 |
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zproden | Hi guys. Can I fetch source just for one package with bitbake fetch? For example, I want only the content of linux-dummy.bb | 18:35 |
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zproden | Maybe this is not the best example. Better would be linux-yocto_3.14.bb:) | 18:36 |
kergoth | bitbake -c fetch <recipe> | 18:41 |
zproden | kergoth: ERROR: Nothing PROVIDES 'linux-yocto_3.14.bb'. Close matches: linux-yocto | 18:43 |
kergoth | bitbake doesn't accept a filename, it never has | 18:43 |
kergoth | read the bitbake manual, yocto manuals, or bitbake --help | 18:43 |
kergoth | it accepts a recipe name or other provider | 18:43 |
kergoth | bitbake -c fetch virtual/kernel | 18:43 |
kergoth | bitbake -c fetch linux-yocto | 18:43 |
zproden | ok, thanks. It is working now. | 18:45 |
zproden | however, I have another problem, because it is downloading very slow. Like 100 kbps. This is strange, because when I do "git clone git://git.yoctoproject.org/linux-yocto-4.1.git" it is downloading very fast, like 12Mbps | 18:47 |
zproden | when I go to http://git.yoctoproject.org/cgit/cgit.cgi/linux-yocto-4.1 and click on " linux-yocto-4.1-4.1.15.tar.gz" for example, it is downloading with similar speed (like 100 kbps) | 18:49 |
zproden | kergoth: can I fix it somehow? Is there any mirror of git.yoctoproject.org? | 18:49 |
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smiller6 | Greetings, I'm hoping for some advice on an issue that I realize may not have an easy solution, but I need a strategy for going forward. | 19:07 |
smiller6 | I believe I'm experiencing an issue related to python3 not properly installing on the target. | 19:08 |
smiller6 | Nutshell example: | 19:09 |
smiller6 | The following command, | 19:09 |
smiller6 | bitbake -e python3 |grep \^PACKAGES= | 19:09 |
smiller6 | produces output in which I locate | 19:09 |
smiller6 | "python3-math", | 19:09 |
smiller6 | among others. | 19:09 |
smiller6 | Added to the conf/local.conf is: | 19:09 |
smiller6 | #python3 | 19:09 |
smiller6 | IMAGE_INSTALL_append += " \ | 19:09 |
smiller6 | ... | 19:09 |
smiller6 | python3-math \ | 19:09 |
smiller6 | ... | 19:09 |
smiller6 | " | 19:10 |
smiller6 | On the target, I run | 19:10 |
smiller6 | python3 | 19:10 |
smiller6 | import math | 19:10 |
smiller6 | > ImportError: No module named 'math' | 19:10 |
smiller6 | Looking at the manifest, math should be placed in the python3-core package, and that should be installed along with others in core. | 19:13 |
smiller6 | Implying that the step taken above to explicitly install python3-math package should not be necessary. | 19:14 |
Crofton | sadly I have no python3 things to try | 19:14 |
Crofton | I assume you looked at where the modules are? | 19:15 |
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smiller6 | Yes, unfortunately it's a behaviour I'm showing with some python modules as well. The successful work around up to this point has been to include the packages explicitly in IMAGE_INSTALL_append, but as you can see that measure failed for this case (and others), and it doesn't sit well that this doesn't seem to be the way I shoould necessarily be going about it.) | 19:17 |
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smiller6 | Taken from another direction, if I locate the rpm built for python3-math, transfer it to the target, then attempt to install, the target will claim that the package is already installed. | 19:18 |
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igor3 | see the content of python-math.rpm, maybe the math implementation isnt in the rpm | 19:19 |
rubdos | hehe, made a Makefile with PHONY: all and all: bitbake ... | 19:22 |
rubdos | :P | 19:22 |
smiller6 | I shall check | 19:22 |
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smiller6 | Alright, so please forgive the copy-paste spam action, but: | 19:28 |
smiller6 | SUMMARY_${PN}-core="Python interpreter and core modules" | 19:28 |
smiller6 | RDEPENDS_${PN}-core="${PN}-lang ${PN}-re ${PN}-reprlib ${PN}-codecs ${PN}-io ${PN}-math" | 19:28 |
smiller6 | FILES_${PN}-core="${libdir}/python3.3/__future__.* ${libdir}/python3.3/_abcoll.* ${libdir}/python3.3/abc.* ${libdir}/python3.3/copy.* ${libdir}/python3.3/copyreg.* ${libdir}/python3.3/ConfigParser.* ${libdir}/python3.3/genericpath.* ${libdir}/python3.3/getopt.* ${libdir}/python3.3/linecache.* ${libdir}/python3.3/new.* ${libdir}/python3.3/os.* ${libdir}/python3.3/posixpath.* ${libdir}/python3.3/struct.* ${libdir}/python3.3/warnings.* ${libdir}/python3.3/ | 19:28 |
smiller6 | site.* ${libdir}/python3.3/stat.* ${libdir}/python3.3/UserDict.* ${libdir}/python3.3/UserList.* ${libdir}/python3.3/UserString.* ${libdir}/python3.3/lib-dynload/binascii.*.so ${libdir}/python3.3/lib-dynload/_struct.*.so ${libdir}/python3.3/lib-dynload/time.*.so ${libdir}/python3.3/lib-dynload/xreadlines.*.so ${libdir}/python3.3/types.* ${libdir}/python3.3/platform.* ${bindir}/python* ${libdir}/python3.3/_weakrefset.* ${libdir}/python3.3/sysconfig.* ${li | 19:28 |
smiller6 | bdir}/python3.3/_sysconfigdata.* ${libdir}/python3.3/config/Makefile ${includedir}/python${PYTHON_MAJMIN}/pyconfig*.h ${libdir}/python${PYTHON_MAJMIN}/collections ${libdir}/python${PYTHON_MAJMIN}/sitecustomize.py " | 19:28 |
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smiller6 | From the manifest.inc file for python3. | 19:29 |
smiller6 | python3-core appears to have the RDEPENDS...${PN}-math" | 19:29 |
smiller6 | Viewed on the target, the /usr/lib shows the *.py files that should be there according to what is inside the rpm for -core. | 19:31 |
smiller6 | But missing is, say, random.py from the python3-math rpm. | 19:31 |
smiller6 | So as a side question, am I misunderstanding the manifest, that core SHOULD include math? | 19:32 |
smiller6 | What might account for explicitly including the python3-math package in the image install, but the files in the rpm not being on the target image? | 19:34 |
smiller6 | Apologies and gratitude to all who've read so far... | 19:35 |
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neverpanic | how do you determine that the python3-math package is not on the target image? | 19:36 |
neverpanic | maybe it is, but the content is wrong? | 19:37 |
neverpanic | did you check the image manifest for python3-math? | 19:37 |
neverpanic | did you check what's in the python3-math package? | 19:37 |
smiller6 | Yes, to most of those questions. | 19:50 |
smiller6 | First: | 19:50 |
smiller6 | If I look at the rpm on the build host, inside is /usr/lib/python3.3/random.py | 19:51 |
smiller6 | That file is not located on the target, implying that the package did not install properly (but smart on the target claims that it was installed) | 19:51 |
smiller6 | Second: Correct, I think that the content is wrong for this package. As mentioned, in the rpm is random.py, but the manifest indicates there should be more files in there: | 19:52 |
smiller6 | FILES_${PN}-math="${libdir}/python3.3/lib-dynload/cmath.*.so ${libdir}/python3.3/lib-dynload/math.*.so ${libdir}/python3.3/lib-dynload/_random.*.so ${libdir}/python3.3/random.* ${libdir}/python3.3/sets.* " | 19:52 |
smiller6 | "sets" for instance | 19:53 |
kergoth | if the .so's arent included, likely they didn't come out of the python build. see teh logs of the python build | 19:53 |
smiller6 | Please forgive me, do you mean that some step might be skipping a few of the .so files when building, resulting in an incomplete installation (that does not cause overt errors elsewhere in the build process)?) | 19:58 |
smiller6 | As a side, if I navigate to <builddir>/buildhistory/images/intel_coreiu7_64/glibc/<demoplatform>/image-files/ there's some output like: | 20:01 |
smiller6 | installed-packages.txt shows python3-math-3.3.3-r1.0.corei7_64.rpm. | 20:01 |
kergoth | yes, it's entirely possible that python disabled emission of some module without failing the build | 20:01 |
kergoth | i've seen it before | 20:01 |
neverpanic | smiller6: Yes, that's what he's indicating. What could also be happening is that due to configuration, the generated files have different names, and the FILES_${PN}-math list doesn't match anymore | 20:01 |
neverpanic | In that case the files would probably land in some catchall package at the end | 20:02 |
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smiller6 | "and the FILES_${PN}-math list doesn't match anymore" sounds spooky... | 20:04 |
neverpanic | FILES_${PN} is just a list of glob expressions; everything that matches gets moved into this package. Everything else, doesn't. | 20:05 |
kergoth | indeed. having a pattern there taht doesn't match anything is non-fatal | 20:05 |
neverpanic | If there's a more generic expression for a package further in $PACKAGES, that may not be fatal | 20:05 |
neverpanic | Only if none of the globs match a file and it doesn't get packaged, you'll get an error | 20:05 |
smiller6 | Alright, that's fair. | 20:06 |
neverpanic | If you don't have rm_work enabled, check ${WORKDIR}/packages-split for your python3 build | 20:06 |
neverpanic | And see if the missing files are in there somewhere | 20:07 |
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smiller6 | Apologies, I don't see a packages-split directory. But if I head to the /image/usr/lib/python3.3 in the python3 WORKDIR, I do see a number of files in there that should be on the target, but are not. | 20:14 |
smiller6 | It's true that files in the /image dir ultimately are what gets written to the rootfs? | 20:14 |
neverpanic | No | 20:28 |
neverpanic | image is split into packages (which should be written to packages-split) | 20:28 |
neverpanic | and those packages then get installed on the target | 20:28 |
neverpanic | So if the files are in image, but not on your target, then the packaging is your culprit | 20:28 |
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khem | RP: around ? | 21:04 |
khem | I am looking for code which sets up symlinks for toolchain in SDK between uclibc and glibc candian-cross compilers in install | 21:05 |
khem | I need to hook clang into this symlinking | 21:06 |
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smiller6 | As an aside, thanks to each who've helped so far. I've clearly got some more investigation to do... | 21:14 |
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khem | RP: cross_canadian_bindirlinks() is what I was looking for | 21:50 |
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