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malinusIt seems Yocto/raspberry-pi-bsp/rpi-basic-image doesn't produce a finished (partitioned etc.) image as an result but "just" the rootFS (and the boot files etc.). Am I missing something?07:26
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mckoangood morning07:27
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mckoanmalinus: it is normal07:28
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malinusmckoan: Okay, I see. I guess I was tricked by the naming, since it has "image" in it, which made me expect an image. Is this the case for all "image recipes"?07:29
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malinusAlso, good morning to you too.07:30
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malinusAm I misunderstanding something? Does a compressed file system in one file, and a bunch of boot/dts/config files specify as an "image"?07:34
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mckoanmalinus: depends on the MACHINE and its recipes07:40
malinusOh okay. Thanks.07:43
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mbroadsthi, I've been trying to follow some examples of kernel modules that are built out of tree with autotools wondered if anyone here had some experience with that?13:33
mbroadstmy module builds, however its using the installed system kernel sources rather than the one built for my image13:33
mbroadstI tried running configure `--with-linux=${KERNEL_STAGING_DIR}` per an example I found, however when I use the devshell that's not exported (despite inherting from `module` in my recipe)13:34
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* tmcguire wonders what the difference between meta-freescale and meta-fsl-arm is, on https://github.com/Freescale/ - both seem to contain the Vivante GPU drivers, for example.13:40
mbroadstneither KERNEL_PATH nor KERNEL_SRC seem to be populated either, which the manual indicates should be the case13:41
mbroadstis it possible that inheriting autotools is clearing those variables out?13:43
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CTtpollardit it possible to use BB_DANGLINGAPPENDS_WARNONLY inside a specific bb append, to tell local.conf to only consider it for that given append?14:19
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CTtpollardi.e I don't want all non match appends errors to be ignored, only a specific known one14:35
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kergothCTtpollard: nope, it's a global setting14:49
kergothCTtpollard: but if your'e hittinga n issue where an append is erroring because the layer with the recipe isn't enabled, that's easy to work around14:49
CTtpollardwe've got an append for linux*14:50
CTtpollardwith we apply different patches depending on the machine14:50
CTtpollardthe problem is the wildcard is also hitting the linux headers recipes14:50
CTtpollardwhich we want to avoid14:50
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CTtpollardwithout resorting to specific masks in local conf etc14:50
kergothlinux* isn't a good idea, you'd be better off using specific wildcards for each bsp kernel recipe14:50
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CTtpollardwhich gives us another problem14:51
CTtpollardwe have multiple boards, which meta bsp layer won't always be present14:51
kergothhttps://github.com/MentorEmbedded/meta-mentor/blob/master/meta-mel/conf/layer.conf#L5-L814:51
CTtpollardat which point bitbake obviously complains it can't find it14:52
kergothadd that, then put the appends in layer-name specific areas of the repo14:52
kergothi.e. https://github.com/MentorEmbedded/meta-mentor/tree/master/meta-mel/fsl-arm14:52
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kergoththen those are only applied when that layer is enabled14:52
CTtpollardwe've been using board specific dirs, and then only passing them where needed in layers cong14:53
CTtpollardbut this append should really be global14:53
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malinusWelp, I'm stuck on this error: http://paste.ubuntu.com/15670964/ , I've previously got a path error, which I thought I fixed, but I have no idea how to handle this one, or what even causes it: http://paste.ubuntu.com/15670964/14:55
malinusaccidently pasted it twice, sorry.14:56
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CTtpollardkergoth: we're managing to only apply the patches if a variable has been set, do you know if it's possible to have two conditionals, using and?14:56
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kergothit's just python, of course14:57
CTtpollardheh that's what I thought14:57
CTtpollardso we check if a variable is set to 1, and we also want it check that bpn is == a given value14:58
malinusMaybe I should just contact the mainatiner of the particular layer that fails?14:58
CTtpollardhowever it seems to ignore it14:58
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kergothmalinus: that's probably a good idea15:00
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CTtpollardkergoth: this feels dirty, but could you have linux-${MACHINE}.bbappend?15:30
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mbroadsthey so this autotools recipe is installing a number of files I want to include in the `-dev` package to paths like: /usr/src/spl-0.6.5.6/include/sys/fs15:32
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mbroadstshould I refernce that path completely in the FILES section? it doesn't appear to be the ${libdir}, but I'm not sure what the value of that is15:32
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mbroadstfor instance adding this to the recipe doesn't seem to work: FILES_${PN}-dev = "${includedir}/linux/sys/*"15:33
mbroadst(excuse me I said libdir above but meant includedir)15:33
neverpanic/usr/src isn't ${includedir}15:34
mbroadstneverpanic: is there a way to identify what ${includedir} is? I assume I just need to tweak the configure line to install there15:35
neverpanicsee poky/meta/conf/bitbake.conf for the list of path variables. There doesn't seem to be one for /usr/src, so I guess FILES_${PN}-dev += "${prefix}/src" might be the way to go?15:35
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neverpanicbitbake -e recipename contains the values of all variables15:35
mbroadstthough I thought the autotools bbclass would handle setting up these variables for me15:36
rburton1bitbake.conf lists the default path assignments, which are generally not changed15:36
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mbroadsthm so /usr/src is likely the srcdir I guess15:39
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kergothCTtpollard: bbappends are named based on the filename of the recipe. no recipes are named that, even if bitbake expanded filenames, which it doesn't15:44
mbroadstrburton, neverpanic: might either of you be able to point to an example of an out of tree module that also provides additional headers?15:47
mbroadstin order to build the zfs kernel module I need to use spl headers which are artifacts of building the spl kernel module15:48
rburtonis spl also out of tree?15:48
mbroadstI thought maybe I'd just wrap those up into the `dev` package for spl, but I'm not sure what the "yocto way" is here15:48
mbroadstyes15:48
mbroadstin fact right now I'm only focusing on the spl recipe15:48
rburtoni guess you'll need custom staging logic to write them to the same place as the kernel headers15:49
mbroadstso the kernel module builds fine, and bitbake complains that a number of files are not packaged (the aforementioned headers)15:49
rburtonputting them in the -dev will be a good start15:49
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mbroadstok great, but that leads to the next question15:49
mbroadstobviously the paths are incorrect there, so what path transformations need to occur when putting them in the dev package?15:50
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sa2ajjhi. can somebody point me to an example where perforce is used for fetching sources?16:11
rburtonpurgatory?16:13
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kergothgit-imerge is so awesome for long-lived branches16:20
rburtonfailed dismally last time i tried it, should try it again16:21
rburtoni've a branch that hasn't been rebased for about six months…16:21
mbroadstrburton: for instance, would it be wise to patch the makefile.am for those installed kernel headers to instead change the install paths to reference like ${STAGING_KERNEL_DIR} or is that begging for trouble16:22
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sa2ajjrburton: i'm sorry, was that the answer?16:28
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joshuaglI'd be surprised if there were any examples of use of the p4 fetcher as I don't think there are any open source projects using p416:36
sa2ajjjoshuagl: thanks :)16:38
mbroadstI guess I'm just not sure how best to get these header files into the staging kernel dir for the subsequent module build, any ideas?16:39
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mbroadstalternatively, the configure process for the zfs kmod allows you specify a path to the spl sources16:40
mbroadstso maybe there's an example somewhere of having multiple SRC_URI's in a single recipe, such that I can reference the spl source from within the zfs recipe16:40
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neverpanicmbroadst: multiple SRC_URIs are pretty easy; there are probably plenty of examples.16:58
neverpanicyou could also install the headers, which will put them into the sysroot, where you can look them up for later builds16:59
mbroadstneverpanic: upon further reflection it seems I need generated objects and headers from the spl build for zfs16:59
mbroadstI'm trying to parse 3 different mailing list threads for the proper staging methods16:59
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mbroadstneverpanic: I'm a little confused about installation in this context, iiuc FILES_whatever will install these headers to a package of my choice but not necessarily to the sysroot right?17:00
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mbroadstdo you mean just adding a post install step to directly call install on the files?17:00
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neverpanicthe whole contents of ${WORKDIR}/image usually also go into the sysroot17:00
neverpanicand FILES_* matches files from ${WORKDIR}/image17:01
neverpanicso everything that you package will also be part of the sysroot17:01
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mbroadstso I was playing around with that. Added all of the files to a test package (with the /usr/share/${PV} prefix intact, nothing changed there)17:02
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mbroadster, /usr/src/${PV}17:03
mbroadstbut /usr/src doesn't exist in any of my sysroots17:03
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neverpanicBut the files were installed by whatever your recipe's do_install() does, right?17:03
mbroadstwell do_install is handled automagically by the autotools bbclass, but yes I believe they have been installed (as indicated by the QA warning before I added them to FILES)17:04
kergoth /usr/src isn't staged to the sysroot, only specific paths are, unless you override that by appending to sysroot_stage_all17:04
mbroadstI see, so indeed the path forward should just to be to create an appended do_install that manually installs those files to the STAGING_KERNEL_DIR17:06
mbroadst(although I see comments from Bruce Ashfield on the ML about not touching that directly, and rather using a custom path for additional headers)17:07
kergothyes, you should never touch the sysroot directly in do_install17:07
neverpanicYes, as soon as your recipe starts using sstate cache those files will be missing otherwise.17:08
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mbroadstcan either of you think of an existing recipe pair that does something like this then? specifically: one recipe builds a kernel module and provides extra kernel headers, and the second module needs to reference the previous modules objects and headers17:10
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mbroadstI just ask for the sake of not bothering you anymore :)17:10
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kergothpersonally I'd just put them in their own isolated area in ${D} in do_install and use a sysroot_stage_all_append() to get that into the sysroot, then look there from the other recipe. basically what bruce said17:13
kergothgrep around for examples. i.e. meta/recipes-core/meta/signing-keys.bb stages /etc/pki into the sysroot, which normally wouldn't be included17:14
mbroadstokay and then in the subsequent recipe just reference a magic path17:15
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kergothi.e. install to ${D}${includedir}/foobar/, add that in sysroot_stage_all_append, then -I${STAGING_INCDIR}/foobar17:16
mbroadstgotcha, thanks to you both I really appreciate the advice17:16
kergothor, if it only adds extra files and doesn't conflict with anything else, just install them to standard locations and they'd be found by default17:17
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mbroadstwell for whatever reason in its Makefile its installing it to /usr/src/${PN}/include17:17
mbroadstafaict the makefile.am is using like ${top_src_dir}, so that could probably be patched17:18
kergoththat's one of the common places where kernel headers would go, yes17:18
mbroadstit is?17:18
kergoth /usr/include/linxu and /usr/include/asm arent' kernel headers anymore, they're the sanitized-for-userland headers used by the c library and installed for use by userland17:18
kergothkernel stuff doesn't include those, it needs the headers from the actual kernel source, which is either specified manually, or i.e. follows the symlink from /lib/modules/<foo>/build/17:19
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kergothwhich in some distros points to a kernel source dir in /usr/src17:19
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mbroadstarg sorry17:19
mbroadstkergoth: so, this recipe in particular is installing to e.g. /usr/src/spl-0.6.5.6/include/sys/*17:20
mbroadstthat's expected?17:20
kergothah, no, that doesn't seem standard, but there really is no standard for injecting extra kernel headers, so..17:20
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mbroadstright, so what I was originally doing was just adding those to the dev package, but they aren't available17:21
kergothregardless, pick a path, or let it use the one it's already using, append to sysroot_stage_all to get that non-standard path staged, then point to that path from the other recipe. what that path is probably doesn't matter17:21
* kergoth nods17:21
mbroadstso I guess I'll try that sysroot_stage_all_append17:21
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kergothboth ssysroot population and packaging use the files from $D} from do_install, but they use two different mechanisms and functions to do so17:22
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kergothi expect you can just copy the bits from meta/recipes-core/meta/signing-keys.bb and change ${sysconfdir}/pki to ${prefix}/src17:23
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kergothbut the fact that it's including the version in the /usr/src path would be problematic since you won't know the version from teh other recipe, so you might also want to change that path17:23
kergothmove it in do_install17:23
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mbroadstkergoth: well conveniently the two modules come in synced releases17:38
kergothah, that makes it easier17:38
mbroadstso ${PV} should be all thats needed, but I think maybe bruce in those emails was just saying make a parallel tree, like /usr-blah/src/include17:38
mbroadstI could just patch the Makefile.am for those headers to use `/usr-blah/src` instead of `${top_src_dir}` I guess17:39
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kergothRP: if you're around, could use another set of eyes on something real quick. very short diffs. https://github.com/kergoth/poky/commit/14d521b vs https://github.com/kergoth/poky/commit/d24c6d518:25
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kergothor anyone else, really18:26
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kergothI dislike how implicit the latter implementation is, but getting all the layer maintainers to modify their layer.conf seems like a losing proposition, so I'm inclined to say we should go with the latter18:47
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otavioHow can I force BitBake data smart to be updated?19:18
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mbroadstkergoth: now I'm reading this, thinking I should just do a do_install_append and install everything directly to $STAGING_KERNEL_DIR: https://github.com/openembedded/openembedded-core/blob/master/meta/recipes-kernel/linux-libc-headers/linux-libc-headers.inc#L519:26
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mbroadstand it looks like this is doing something close to what I want maybe: https://github.com/open-switch/ops-build/blob/master/yocto/poky/meta/recipes-kernel/cryptodev/cryptodev-linux_1.7.bb19:29
kergothlinux-libc-headers is special, you should not use it as a basis of anything. it installs files specifically for use by the C library, not kernel stuff19:29
mbroadstyeah, I see that in the note, but the note continues to mention that if you want to install a kernel header you should just directly install to the staging dir19:30
mbroadstthe second recipe I just posted seems to be the latter of your suggestions above, just install the files directly to ${D} and hope they don't clobber anything19:31
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mbroadstoh but thats for eventual use in the image, not to build another recipe19:37
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RPkergoth: hmm, that is a really tricky one. I do prefer the former, the latter does seem a bit too magic :/19:53
RPkergoth: Since we'll have to live with this for a long time, which would we ideally prefer? I'd then suggest we go with that...19:55
kergothYeah, I prefer the former as well. but for a layer to support both older and newer bitbakes they'd need LAYERDIR_RE ?= "${LAYERDIR}" too :\19:56
* kergoth shrugs19:56
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RPkergoth: still tempted by the former...19:58
RPkergoth: I've been burnt by too many nasty things we've had to live with19:59
kergothYeah, I hear you. magic tends to break, or at the best we end up stuck maintaining it indefinitely19:59
kergothK, the former it is, I'll submit it for 2.219:59
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mbroadstkergoth: rad, got it working :) thanks for the guidance20:12
kergothnp20:12
RPkergoth: sounds good thanks20:15
kergothnp, thanks for the help/input20:15
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neverpanickergoth: maybe I'm misunderstanding things, but couldn't layers that want to support older and newer bitbake versions do LAYERDIR_RE ?= "${@re.escape(d.getVar('LAYER', True))}"?20:24
kergothneverpanic: nope, re isn't imported20:28
kergothyou'd ahve to split off a .inc, create a def'd function, and import re20:28
kergoththat's why it had to be implemented in bitbake rather than just doing it in the metadsata in the first place20:29
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neverpanickergoth: ${@__import__('re').escape(d.getVar('LAYER', True))}20:32
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