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| malinus | It seems Yocto/raspberry-pi-bsp/rpi-basic-image doesn't produce a finished (partitioned etc.) image as an result but "just" the rootFS (and the boot files etc.). Am I missing something? | 07:26 |
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| mckoan | good morning | 07:27 |
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| mckoan | malinus: it is normal | 07:28 |
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| malinus | mckoan: Okay, I see. I guess I was tricked by the naming, since it has "image" in it, which made me expect an image. Is this the case for all "image recipes"? | 07:29 |
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| malinus | Also, good morning to you too. | 07:30 |
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| malinus | Am I misunderstanding something? Does a compressed file system in one file, and a bunch of boot/dts/config files specify as an "image"? | 07:34 |
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| mckoan | malinus: depends on the MACHINE and its recipes | 07:40 |
| malinus | Oh okay. Thanks. | 07:43 |
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| mbroadst | hi, I've been trying to follow some examples of kernel modules that are built out of tree with autotools wondered if anyone here had some experience with that? | 13:33 |
| mbroadst | my module builds, however its using the installed system kernel sources rather than the one built for my image | 13:33 |
| mbroadst | I tried running configure `--with-linux=${KERNEL_STAGING_DIR}` per an example I found, however when I use the devshell that's not exported (despite inherting from `module` in my recipe) | 13:34 |
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| * tmcguire wonders what the difference between meta-freescale and meta-fsl-arm is, on https://github.com/Freescale/ - both seem to contain the Vivante GPU drivers, for example. | 13:40 | |
| mbroadst | neither KERNEL_PATH nor KERNEL_SRC seem to be populated either, which the manual indicates should be the case | 13:41 |
| mbroadst | is it possible that inheriting autotools is clearing those variables out? | 13:43 |
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| CTtpollard | it it possible to use BB_DANGLINGAPPENDS_WARNONLY inside a specific bb append, to tell local.conf to only consider it for that given append? | 14:19 |
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| CTtpollard | i.e I don't want all non match appends errors to be ignored, only a specific known one | 14:35 |
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| kergoth | CTtpollard: nope, it's a global setting | 14:49 |
| kergoth | CTtpollard: but if your'e hittinga n issue where an append is erroring because the layer with the recipe isn't enabled, that's easy to work around | 14:49 |
| CTtpollard | we've got an append for linux* | 14:50 |
| CTtpollard | with we apply different patches depending on the machine | 14:50 |
| CTtpollard | the problem is the wildcard is also hitting the linux headers recipes | 14:50 |
| CTtpollard | which we want to avoid | 14:50 |
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| CTtpollard | without resorting to specific masks in local conf etc | 14:50 |
| kergoth | linux* isn't a good idea, you'd be better off using specific wildcards for each bsp kernel recipe | 14:50 |
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| CTtpollard | which gives us another problem | 14:51 |
| CTtpollard | we have multiple boards, which meta bsp layer won't always be present | 14:51 |
| kergoth | https://github.com/MentorEmbedded/meta-mentor/blob/master/meta-mel/conf/layer.conf#L5-L8 | 14:51 |
| CTtpollard | at which point bitbake obviously complains it can't find it | 14:52 |
| kergoth | add that, then put the appends in layer-name specific areas of the repo | 14:52 |
| kergoth | i.e. https://github.com/MentorEmbedded/meta-mentor/tree/master/meta-mel/fsl-arm | 14:52 |
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| kergoth | then those are only applied when that layer is enabled | 14:52 |
| CTtpollard | we've been using board specific dirs, and then only passing them where needed in layers cong | 14:53 |
| CTtpollard | but this append should really be global | 14:53 |
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| malinus | Welp, I'm stuck on this error: http://paste.ubuntu.com/15670964/ , I've previously got a path error, which I thought I fixed, but I have no idea how to handle this one, or what even causes it: http://paste.ubuntu.com/15670964/ | 14:55 |
| malinus | accidently pasted it twice, sorry. | 14:56 |
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| CTtpollard | kergoth: we're managing to only apply the patches if a variable has been set, do you know if it's possible to have two conditionals, using and? | 14:56 |
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| kergoth | it's just python, of course | 14:57 |
| CTtpollard | heh that's what I thought | 14:57 |
| CTtpollard | so we check if a variable is set to 1, and we also want it check that bpn is == a given value | 14:58 |
| malinus | Maybe I should just contact the mainatiner of the particular layer that fails? | 14:58 |
| CTtpollard | however it seems to ignore it | 14:58 |
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| kergoth | malinus: that's probably a good idea | 15:00 |
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| CTtpollard | kergoth: this feels dirty, but could you have linux-${MACHINE}.bbappend? | 15:30 |
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| mbroadst | hey so this autotools recipe is installing a number of files I want to include in the `-dev` package to paths like: /usr/src/spl-0.6.5.6/include/sys/fs | 15:32 |
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| mbroadst | should I refernce that path completely in the FILES section? it doesn't appear to be the ${libdir}, but I'm not sure what the value of that is | 15:32 |
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| mbroadst | for instance adding this to the recipe doesn't seem to work: FILES_${PN}-dev = "${includedir}/linux/sys/*" | 15:33 |
| mbroadst | (excuse me I said libdir above but meant includedir) | 15:33 |
| neverpanic | /usr/src isn't ${includedir} | 15:34 |
| mbroadst | neverpanic: is there a way to identify what ${includedir} is? I assume I just need to tweak the configure line to install there | 15:35 |
| neverpanic | see poky/meta/conf/bitbake.conf for the list of path variables. There doesn't seem to be one for /usr/src, so I guess FILES_${PN}-dev += "${prefix}/src" might be the way to go? | 15:35 |
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| neverpanic | bitbake -e recipename contains the values of all variables | 15:35 |
| mbroadst | though I thought the autotools bbclass would handle setting up these variables for me | 15:36 |
| rburton1 | bitbake.conf lists the default path assignments, which are generally not changed | 15:36 |
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| mbroadst | hm so /usr/src is likely the srcdir I guess | 15:39 |
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| kergoth | CTtpollard: bbappends are named based on the filename of the recipe. no recipes are named that, even if bitbake expanded filenames, which it doesn't | 15:44 |
| mbroadst | rburton, neverpanic: might either of you be able to point to an example of an out of tree module that also provides additional headers? | 15:47 |
| mbroadst | in order to build the zfs kernel module I need to use spl headers which are artifacts of building the spl kernel module | 15:48 |
| rburton | is spl also out of tree? | 15:48 |
| mbroadst | I thought maybe I'd just wrap those up into the `dev` package for spl, but I'm not sure what the "yocto way" is here | 15:48 |
| mbroadst | yes | 15:48 |
| mbroadst | in fact right now I'm only focusing on the spl recipe | 15:48 |
| rburton | i guess you'll need custom staging logic to write them to the same place as the kernel headers | 15:49 |
| mbroadst | so the kernel module builds fine, and bitbake complains that a number of files are not packaged (the aforementioned headers) | 15:49 |
| rburton | putting them in the -dev will be a good start | 15:49 |
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| mbroadst | ok great, but that leads to the next question | 15:49 |
| mbroadst | obviously the paths are incorrect there, so what path transformations need to occur when putting them in the dev package? | 15:50 |
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| sa2ajj | hi. can somebody point me to an example where perforce is used for fetching sources? | 16:11 |
| rburton | purgatory? | 16:13 |
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| kergoth | git-imerge is so awesome for long-lived branches | 16:20 |
| rburton | failed dismally last time i tried it, should try it again | 16:21 |
| rburton | i've a branch that hasn't been rebased for about six months… | 16:21 |
| mbroadst | rburton: for instance, would it be wise to patch the makefile.am for those installed kernel headers to instead change the install paths to reference like ${STAGING_KERNEL_DIR} or is that begging for trouble | 16:22 |
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| sa2ajj | rburton: i'm sorry, was that the answer? | 16:28 |
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| joshuagl | I'd be surprised if there were any examples of use of the p4 fetcher as I don't think there are any open source projects using p4 | 16:36 |
| sa2ajj | joshuagl: thanks :) | 16:38 |
| mbroadst | I guess I'm just not sure how best to get these header files into the staging kernel dir for the subsequent module build, any ideas? | 16:39 |
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| mbroadst | alternatively, the configure process for the zfs kmod allows you specify a path to the spl sources | 16:40 |
| mbroadst | so maybe there's an example somewhere of having multiple SRC_URI's in a single recipe, such that I can reference the spl source from within the zfs recipe | 16:40 |
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| neverpanic | mbroadst: multiple SRC_URIs are pretty easy; there are probably plenty of examples. | 16:58 |
| neverpanic | you could also install the headers, which will put them into the sysroot, where you can look them up for later builds | 16:59 |
| mbroadst | neverpanic: upon further reflection it seems I need generated objects and headers from the spl build for zfs | 16:59 |
| mbroadst | I'm trying to parse 3 different mailing list threads for the proper staging methods | 16:59 |
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| mbroadst | neverpanic: I'm a little confused about installation in this context, iiuc FILES_whatever will install these headers to a package of my choice but not necessarily to the sysroot right? | 17:00 |
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| mbroadst | do you mean just adding a post install step to directly call install on the files? | 17:00 |
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| neverpanic | the whole contents of ${WORKDIR}/image usually also go into the sysroot | 17:00 |
| neverpanic | and FILES_* matches files from ${WORKDIR}/image | 17:01 |
| neverpanic | so everything that you package will also be part of the sysroot | 17:01 |
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| mbroadst | so I was playing around with that. Added all of the files to a test package (with the /usr/share/${PV} prefix intact, nothing changed there) | 17:02 |
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| mbroadst | er, /usr/src/${PV} | 17:03 |
| mbroadst | but /usr/src doesn't exist in any of my sysroots | 17:03 |
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| neverpanic | But the files were installed by whatever your recipe's do_install() does, right? | 17:03 |
| mbroadst | well do_install is handled automagically by the autotools bbclass, but yes I believe they have been installed (as indicated by the QA warning before I added them to FILES) | 17:04 |
| kergoth | /usr/src isn't staged to the sysroot, only specific paths are, unless you override that by appending to sysroot_stage_all | 17:04 |
| mbroadst | I see, so indeed the path forward should just to be to create an appended do_install that manually installs those files to the STAGING_KERNEL_DIR | 17:06 |
| mbroadst | (although I see comments from Bruce Ashfield on the ML about not touching that directly, and rather using a custom path for additional headers) | 17:07 |
| kergoth | yes, you should never touch the sysroot directly in do_install | 17:07 |
| neverpanic | Yes, as soon as your recipe starts using sstate cache those files will be missing otherwise. | 17:08 |
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| mbroadst | can either of you think of an existing recipe pair that does something like this then? specifically: one recipe builds a kernel module and provides extra kernel headers, and the second module needs to reference the previous modules objects and headers | 17:10 |
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| mbroadst | I just ask for the sake of not bothering you anymore :) | 17:10 |
| * mranostay bothers kergoth | 17:12 | |
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| kergoth | personally I'd just put them in their own isolated area in ${D} in do_install and use a sysroot_stage_all_append() to get that into the sysroot, then look there from the other recipe. basically what bruce said | 17:13 |
| kergoth | grep around for examples. i.e. meta/recipes-core/meta/signing-keys.bb stages /etc/pki into the sysroot, which normally wouldn't be included | 17:14 |
| mbroadst | okay and then in the subsequent recipe just reference a magic path | 17:15 |
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| kergoth | i.e. install to ${D}${includedir}/foobar/, add that in sysroot_stage_all_append, then -I${STAGING_INCDIR}/foobar | 17:16 |
| mbroadst | gotcha, thanks to you both I really appreciate the advice | 17:16 |
| kergoth | or, if it only adds extra files and doesn't conflict with anything else, just install them to standard locations and they'd be found by default | 17:17 |
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| mbroadst | well for whatever reason in its Makefile its installing it to /usr/src/${PN}/include | 17:17 |
| mbroadst | afaict the makefile.am is using like ${top_src_dir}, so that could probably be patched | 17:18 |
| kergoth | that's one of the common places where kernel headers would go, yes | 17:18 |
| mbroadst | it is? | 17:18 |
| kergoth | /usr/include/linxu and /usr/include/asm arent' kernel headers anymore, they're the sanitized-for-userland headers used by the c library and installed for use by userland | 17:18 |
| kergoth | kernel stuff doesn't include those, it needs the headers from the actual kernel source, which is either specified manually, or i.e. follows the symlink from /lib/modules/<foo>/build/ | 17:19 |
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| kergoth | which in some distros points to a kernel source dir in /usr/src | 17:19 |
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| mbroadst | arg sorry | 17:19 |
| mbroadst | kergoth: so, this recipe in particular is installing to e.g. /usr/src/spl-0.6.5.6/include/sys/* | 17:20 |
| mbroadst | that's expected? | 17:20 |
| kergoth | ah, no, that doesn't seem standard, but there really is no standard for injecting extra kernel headers, so.. | 17:20 |
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| mbroadst | right, so what I was originally doing was just adding those to the dev package, but they aren't available | 17:21 |
| kergoth | regardless, pick a path, or let it use the one it's already using, append to sysroot_stage_all to get that non-standard path staged, then point to that path from the other recipe. what that path is probably doesn't matter | 17:21 |
| * kergoth nods | 17:21 | |
| mbroadst | so I guess I'll try that sysroot_stage_all_append | 17:21 |
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| kergoth | both ssysroot population and packaging use the files from $D} from do_install, but they use two different mechanisms and functions to do so | 17:22 |
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| kergoth | i expect you can just copy the bits from meta/recipes-core/meta/signing-keys.bb and change ${sysconfdir}/pki to ${prefix}/src | 17:23 |
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| kergoth | but the fact that it's including the version in the /usr/src path would be problematic since you won't know the version from teh other recipe, so you might also want to change that path | 17:23 |
| kergoth | move it in do_install | 17:23 |
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| mbroadst | kergoth: well conveniently the two modules come in synced releases | 17:38 |
| kergoth | ah, that makes it easier | 17:38 |
| mbroadst | so ${PV} should be all thats needed, but I think maybe bruce in those emails was just saying make a parallel tree, like /usr-blah/src/include | 17:38 |
| mbroadst | I could just patch the Makefile.am for those headers to use `/usr-blah/src` instead of `${top_src_dir}` I guess | 17:39 |
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| kergoth | RP: if you're around, could use another set of eyes on something real quick. very short diffs. https://github.com/kergoth/poky/commit/14d521b vs https://github.com/kergoth/poky/commit/d24c6d5 | 18:25 |
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| kergoth | or anyone else, really | 18:26 |
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| kergoth | I dislike how implicit the latter implementation is, but getting all the layer maintainers to modify their layer.conf seems like a losing proposition, so I'm inclined to say we should go with the latter | 18:47 |
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| otavio | How can I force BitBake data smart to be updated? | 19:18 |
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| mbroadst | kergoth: now I'm reading this, thinking I should just do a do_install_append and install everything directly to $STAGING_KERNEL_DIR: https://github.com/openembedded/openembedded-core/blob/master/meta/recipes-kernel/linux-libc-headers/linux-libc-headers.inc#L5 | 19:26 |
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| mbroadst | and it looks like this is doing something close to what I want maybe: https://github.com/open-switch/ops-build/blob/master/yocto/poky/meta/recipes-kernel/cryptodev/cryptodev-linux_1.7.bb | 19:29 |
| kergoth | linux-libc-headers is special, you should not use it as a basis of anything. it installs files specifically for use by the C library, not kernel stuff | 19:29 |
| mbroadst | yeah, I see that in the note, but the note continues to mention that if you want to install a kernel header you should just directly install to the staging dir | 19:30 |
| mbroadst | the second recipe I just posted seems to be the latter of your suggestions above, just install the files directly to ${D} and hope they don't clobber anything | 19:31 |
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| mbroadst | oh but thats for eventual use in the image, not to build another recipe | 19:37 |
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| RP | kergoth: hmm, that is a really tricky one. I do prefer the former, the latter does seem a bit too magic :/ | 19:53 |
| RP | kergoth: Since we'll have to live with this for a long time, which would we ideally prefer? I'd then suggest we go with that... | 19:55 |
| kergoth | Yeah, I prefer the former as well. but for a layer to support both older and newer bitbakes they'd need LAYERDIR_RE ?= "${LAYERDIR}" too :\ | 19:56 |
| * kergoth shrugs | 19:56 | |
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| RP | kergoth: still tempted by the former... | 19:58 |
| RP | kergoth: I've been burnt by too many nasty things we've had to live with | 19:59 |
| kergoth | Yeah, I hear you. magic tends to break, or at the best we end up stuck maintaining it indefinitely | 19:59 |
| kergoth | K, the former it is, I'll submit it for 2.2 | 19:59 |
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| mbroadst | kergoth: rad, got it working :) thanks for the guidance | 20:12 |
| kergoth | np | 20:12 |
| RP | kergoth: sounds good thanks | 20:15 |
| kergoth | np, thanks for the help/input | 20:15 |
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| neverpanic | kergoth: maybe I'm misunderstanding things, but couldn't layers that want to support older and newer bitbake versions do LAYERDIR_RE ?= "${@re.escape(d.getVar('LAYER', True))}"? | 20:24 |
| kergoth | neverpanic: nope, re isn't imported | 20:28 |
| kergoth | you'd ahve to split off a .inc, create a def'd function, and import re | 20:28 |
| kergoth | that's why it had to be implemented in bitbake rather than just doing it in the metadsata in the first place | 20:29 |
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| neverpanic | kergoth: ${@__import__('re').escape(d.getVar('LAYER', True))} | 20:32 |
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