Thursday, 2016-04-14

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respawn1hello everyone02:27
bluelightninghi respawn102:46
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respawn1I had a question, I'm not sure I entirely understand just what Yocto is. I am not a linux noob, but an average user, not a programmer or developer. I am interested in building my 'own' Linux system. I was considering "Linux from Scratch" before I came across the Yocto Project. Is Yocto a tool that can help me in this regard? thank you02:56
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bluelightningrespawn1: the Yocto Project provides tools to build your own custom Linux distribution, yes03:16
bluelightningrespawn1: if you want to try it out I would suggest following our quickstart guide, it's fairly straightforward03:16
respawn1thank you03:17
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respawn1is it hard to maintain such a system?03:20
bluelightningthere's a learning curve, certainly... but it'll be significantly easier to maintain than Linux from Scratch though03:22
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mwarninghi, how can I enable barebox features in a recipe?07:28
mwarningI have a patch that applies and changes the arch/arm/configs/am335x_defconfig file. But that does not seem to work.07:30
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mcfrisk_hi, I'm updating my tree with latest jethro branch updates and diffing the manifest files shows that libssp0 got removed from my images. Which commit in jethro is causing this? I don't have any hardening features enabled.07:58
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Noorhi all08:00
Noorwe are building qt5 with qemuarm08:00
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Noorand we have enabled egl with qtbaase and trying to run opengl examples but they are not running08:01
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Noorwe are trying to set depth using fbset fbset -depth 2408:01
Noorioctl FBIOPUT_VSCREENINFO: Invalid argument08:01
Noorwe get this error08:02
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NoorCan anybody help08:02
Noorwe are on the master branch08:02
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raykinsella78what is the name of that command, that lets me automagically bbappend a reciepe?09:32
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CTtpollardraykinsella78: I'm not exactly sure what you mean there09:39
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Noorraykinsella78: bitbake atutomatically apply bbappend to the recipe09:51
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RPraykinsella78: recipetool newappend ?10:45
RPNoor: that sounds like the framebuffer driver simply doesn't support the video mode you're trying to set10:46
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NoorRP we were running qt5 opengl examples that come with qt510:57
RPNoor: Try different hardware, I suspect qemuarm only supports 16bit displays10:58
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NoorRP: yeah on other boards those are working10:59
NoorRP: how can we confirm that qemuarm only support 16bit11:00
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CTtpollardis there any nvidia supported bsp layers, for the jetson tk1 for example?11:12
rburtonCTtpollard: and its many forks11:15
rburtonnone of which are supported by nvidia, obviously11:15
rburtoni'd trust kraj's fork to be usabl11:15
CTtpollardcheers rburton11:16
rburton(yay google :)11:17
CTtpollardI saw the cubicool one, just wanted to ask the 'official' question11:17
rburtonafaik, there isn't an offiicial one11:18
rburtonharass nvidia for that11:18
rburtonif enough people ask, they may look at providing one11:18
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raykinsella78RP: go it, thanks11:23
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daviskergoth: are you here?12:32
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simonlHi, I'm trying to install the yocto plugin into Eclipse (with CDT) Mars.2, a pretty fresh install. Apparently the plugin cannot be installed from the update site, and I don't understand why.12:33
Noordavis: he will be available in about 3 hours12:34
simonlAny suggestions for what I may be doing wrong or what I can do to debug it?12:34
simonlUsing this update site:
davisNoor: many thanks12:36
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davisI used kergoth's suggestion to build an appends setup for my kernel config.13:11
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davisI've made a gist of the result. However, it does not work.13:11
davisany suggestions is much appreciated13:12
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marex-cloud____davis: what are you trying to achieve and what does not work? It is unclear from your question13:46
davismarex-cloud____: i'm trying to get a kernel to build with a modified kernel config13:47
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davisi started off doing $bitbake -c menuconfig virtual/kernel, saving my changes and then $bitbake yocto-nsdk-ip-image-sfu13:48
davisthe image build will build the kernel, but when I program my device with the resultant image13:48
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davisboot it and then $cp /proc/config.gz /tmp and then $gunzip /tmp/.../config.gz I do not see my mods to the kernel config13:49
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davismarex-cloud____: Marex did you see those messages?13:50
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davisI wonder if kergoth joined or that is just an autojoin after a netsplit13:51
marex-cloud____You can use zgrep FOO /proc/config.gz , it's quicker13:52
davishmm.. i did not know that. thanks13:52
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marex-cloud____You provided whole new kernel defconfig to the build system, right?13:53
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davisfwiw, this target does not have zgrep, but I recorded this in my notes for future reference. thanks.13:54
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davismarex-cloud____: yes, kind of13:54
marex-cloud____zcat |grep works too13:54
davisat the bottom it shows the recipe13:54
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davisit shows a config, not a .config or defconfig13:55
davismaybe that is the problem.13:55
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marex-cloud____Ha ... What is in that bbappend file?13:56
davisim looking13:56
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davispfft, i noticed all my edits where I had foo/goo and rewrote them as foo_goo since you can't have / in the file names were tossed13:57
davisi'll have post the bbapend file again. one sec13:58
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davisactually it is there. it just reordered it13:59
davisits about 2/3 through the gist13:59
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davisit specifies the file as config14:00
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davisthe last file which is a tree of the meta-JFD-KERNEL fs shows a complete config file in linux-stream800 subdir14:01
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LinuxMiceHi everyone, I use dart 6 ul som module whis is variscite kit, and i use yocto fido 1.8, and i installed apache, tomcat7, after, i deployed my webapps, but device is locked when my webapp is started, so i research a little and i saw mmcqd and swap process on top, the output of free -h command is swap byte is zero, what is swap process and mmcqd,14:05
LinuxMicemmcqd and swap process is took a large cpu percent14:06
davisis mmcqd somethign to do with flash file systems?14:07
iontei have this custom device tree that i fiddle with. each time i change it the whole kernel is fetched and rebuilt. anyway to avoid that, and just build the device tree?14:09
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davisahh, is a kernel thread for managing io queues on the sd14:10
ionte(apart from doing it manually using dtc of course)14:10
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davismarex-cloud____: you stil around?14:17
LinuxMice<LinuxMice> Hi everyone, I use dart 6 ul som module whis is variscite kit, and i use yocto fido 1.8, and i installed apache, tomcat7, after, i deployed my webapps, but device is locked when my webapp is started, so i research a little and i saw mmcqd and swap process on top, the output of free -h command is swap byte is zero, what is swap process and mmcqd, [17:06] <LinuxMice> mmcqd and swap process is took a large cpu percent14:19
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davissince i have done a .bbapend is there anyway to see if it was run and appended to the results in log?14:26
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davisso i was thinking maybe the name of by bbapend file was incorrect, but it appears to match14:29
boucman_workdavis: I usually check with bitbake -e <recipe appended> and check in the output if the variables touched by the bbappend are correctly modified14:29
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davisvirtual/kernel resolves to linux-stream80014:29
davisboucman_work: let me see if that looks correct. in this case im guessing its my SRC_URI since that is the only variable in my appends file14:31
boucman_workalso look at the comment above SRC_URI it tells you all the places the variable was changed14:31
boucman_workpretty handy14:31
davisim looking14:32
davisi found iit in the -e output, but I dont see my new layer in this area yet14:33
davisperhaps its not beeing applied, I see file://defconfig but I dont see file://config which is from my appends14:34
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respawn1hello. I had some questions yesterday about trying out Yocto even though I am an average linux user, not a programmer and not a developer. I was referred to the quick start guide. I forgot to ask though, can this be used to install a linux system on a laptop? I feel as if it is geared towards less powerful devices. And what would be the advantage of installing one's 'own' system over something like say gentoo? I am truly14:39
respawn1blown away by what the Yocto Project has accomplished, putting this power into our hands, and if there is even a slight advantage to me, an average user, over a precompiled distro, i will go for it and try it out14:39
boucman_workif it's not there, your bbappend is probably not applied. is your layer correct ? do you use it for something else ? do the names match ?14:39
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boucman_workrespawn1: I don't think yocto is the right tool for that. It can do it, but it's not really meant as its primary use-case14:40
davisboucman_work: so I modified the filename so instead of config, i called it defconfig. I modifed the recipe so that it used the new name as well.14:40
davisboucman_work: i restarted the build of the image and it detected the kernel needed to rebuild14:40
daviswhen its done, I'll test it and see what the result is. Many thanks pal, i appreciate your expertise14:41
davisrespawn1: its not for laptops. If you want to up your linux skills for a laptop, I suggest gentoo or arch linux.14:41
boucman_workrespawn1: but to answer your original question : yes yocto can create images that you can install on a PC, it's just... not the tool I would use. you'll learn a lot about how linux works, though :P14:41
davisfwiw, yocto came from open embedded which came from gentoo14:42
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davisarchlinux is somewhat different but I prefer a arch distro to gentoo. It is very flexible and well documented.14:42
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respawn1davis, boucman_work thank you14:43
davisyou are welcome. good luck!14:43
respawn1I already use arch, but as per your suggestion I will try out gentoo14:43
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fabotripzero: Hi, you're the right person for mraa/upm recipes update, right?14:45
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davisrespawn1: i was looking for the link relating yocto/openembedded poky to gentoo's portage, but its not here14:45
respawn1I think there is some mention of the relation in the BitBake wiki14:47
respawn1thank you for the information, it has helped me tremendously14:49
davisheh, your question helped me14:49
davisthat aosabook looks like I should read it again now that i have some working knowledge14:50
davisit kind of put me to sleep when I first found it14:50
marex-cloud____The kernel defconfig is always called defconfig iirc14:51
davissounds reasonable14:52
marex-cloud____You cannot relate yocto to portage14:52
davisim programming the board now14:52
daviswill see in a bit14:52
marex-cloud____You also cannot relate poky to portage14:52
davisyeah, i'm just echoing this line from that url, BitBake is a Gentoo-Portage-inspired build tool, used by both the Yocto Project and OpenEmbedded communities to utilize metadata to create Linux images from source.14:53
davisi only know what i read and not the histoory. i was assuming they knew what they were talking about14:53
davisdamn,  zcat /proc/config.gz | grep USB_ETH14:54
davisCONFIG_USB_ETH is not set14:54
davisuname -a also does not show my custom version append.14:55
davisso if I do bitbake -e virtual/kernel and grep for JFD14:56
davisI see my new layer at top14:56
davisi see in some lines which correspond to my layer.conf14:58
marex-cloud____bitbake -c virtual/kernel14:58
davismarex-cloud____: i did not do that. After I made the mods to recipe, I did the build of the image and I thought i saw it rebuild the kernel. I was doing -e to see if it appended the variable. i'll do a -c virtual/kernel and then then bitbake imagename and see if it shows up.15:00
davisbitbake -c virtual/kernel fails, do you mean bitbake virtual/kernel?15:01
marex-cloud____-c clean, sorry15:01
davisahh that makes sense15:01
davisfwiw, maybe i should mention this15:01
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CTtpollardjust be ware if you do manual changes to the kernel source and do -c clean, it will overwrite them15:02
daviswhen I do these commands, even before I made my mod, the last line of the laers would always show "<unknown>:<unkown>"15:02
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davisnow it shows meta-JFD-KERNEL   = "<unknown>:<unknown>"15:02
davisanyway bitbake virtual/kernel is now definitely building.15:03
davis0: linux-stream800-4.1-sure008 do_compile (pid 6436)15:03
davisi alwos wonder about that bit where it appends sue00815:04
marex-cloud____You can check in work if the kernel was built with the correct kernel config of course15:04
davisits like this kernel has already got an appends setup15:04
marex-cloud____You do know git grep, right?15:04
davisbut if my layer is last i think mine is applied as well15:05
davismarex-cloud____: kind of, I noted it in my notes.15:05
davisone sec15:05
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davismarex-cloud____: actuallly no. I only have entries like this bitbake -e virtual/kernel | grep '^FILE'15:06
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davisi do a lot of find . -type f | xargs grep FOO and find . -type d | grep FOO_DIR15:08
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davismarex-cloud____: I booted the image after the clean of kernel and rebuild of image15:22
davisand yet again, my USB_ETH mod to /proc/config.gz does not show up.15:23
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simonlWhich version of eclipse should be supported by the adt plugin? I have tried with Mars.2 and that doesn't seem to work.15:25
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tripzerofabo: yes.15:27
davisobiwan, where are you?15:28
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tripzerofabo: I can talk with others about mraa/upm recipe updates15:28
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tripzerofabo, I see your patches.  They will likely need to be rebased and can you submit the patch as a github PR (
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fabotripzero: sure. I'll do that in a few minutes. Thanks15:39
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fabotripzero: mraa update submitted as a pull request. UPM update isn't needed since your repository had already latest version.15:54
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khemzeddii_home: around ?16:05
khemzeddii_home: docker that you have in meta-virt can I create docker images for host using it16:05
khemzeddii_home: or is it only for adding docker infra to yocto based images16:06
khemREADME tells me its the latter16:07
khembut I am looking for first option16:07
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riz__when configuring the kernel using menuconfig the using diffstat, soes the fragment.cfg file that is generated just show the difference from your last changes or from the generic kernel configuration?16:16
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kergothgood question16:20
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kergothAny folks around that know EFI well? Looking for input on bug 938416:20
yoctiBug enhancement, Medium, 2.2, eduard.bartosh, ACCEPTED , wic should write startup.nsh for bootimg-efi16:20
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khemkergoth: you can just boot kernel directly16:22
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khemyour approach is sane in the sense that u will get a boot menu16:25
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* kergoth knows squat about efi and just copied the bits from live in bootimg which are also the same as those in :)16:27
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khemkernel itself is a EFI app so thats not needed if you dont want to go through hoops16:29
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daviskergoth: yay! i've been looking for you. And regarding UEFI, i did some work on uefi and used to read the tianocore website all the time. I enjoyed the work but not enough to miss it.16:53
davisregarding that bug. i've got a regular minowboard. I used it as a uefi reference board. do you need someone to test the patch?16:55
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denixanyone tried building qt5 for multiple machines lately?17:43
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likewiseWhat's the way to interactively adjust the configuration of a yocto kernel. I have found that bitbake -c menuconfig goes nowhere17:59
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kergothwhat does "goes nowhere" mean?17:59
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likewisekergoth: not where I expected. However, it seems the documentation for the Yocto 1.8.x I am using is no longer online, so I am looking at the wrong docs here.18:06
kergoth-c menuconfig should open menuconfig. changes made there will end up in the results of that build, but of course wiping tmp will lose the change unless you persist it into a layer18:06
likewisekergoth: that did not work for me. It did not end up in the build. This used to be the case, but with Yocto-config-fragments, things seem to work differently.18:07
likewiseI now ran the kernel_configme, menuconfig, diffconfig steps for Yocto 1.8.1, and I got a .cfg fragment dumped in my work dir. However, I am still figuring out how to get it picked up in an incremental build step. (i.e. compile, deploy)18:08
kergothit's supposed to taint the tasks to force them to re-run after menuconfig changes the config, but it's possible you're on an old enough version that it didn't do so. if that's the case, you can bitbake -C configure virtual/kernel after running menuconfig to get it to rerun the later tasks18:08
kergothyou'd need to create a layer, put a bbappend for the kernel in that layer, put the fragment next to it, add the fragment to SRC_URI in the bbappend, and add to FILESEXTRAPATHS so it can be found18:09
kergothrecipetool's appendsrcfile is the easiest way to do this, but not sure it existed in 1.818:09
likewisekergoth: but will that not rebuild the complete kernel as the recipe changed?18:10
likewisekergoth: I am in development mode, fine-tuning the kernel in test-cycles against the target.18:10
kergothI don't understand the question. if you append it and the bbappend modifies SRC_URI, yes, it'll rebuild, as the sources were changed18:11
kergothif not, and you just want to test a quick change without persisting it, then you can use the -C command i gave before with menuconfig18:11
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likewisekergoth: I am used to fixing bugs, adding code, and modifying the kernel config in the work dir, then compile,deploy, and reboot my target to pick up the new kernel. I would like this cycle to be short.18:12
kergothyes, like i said, it's trivial to force bitbake to re-run the build tasks after you make such a change by using -C18:13
kergothonce you get it nailed down, then you could do the diffconfig and save a fragment to a layer to persist those changes for later18:13
likewisekergoth: ok, so after menuconfig I can -c config, -c compile, -c deploy and my changes should be affective?18:14
kergothif you really want to do it manually, yes, but that's what -C does, it tells bitbake to taint the specified task which will result in re-running all the tasks that come after it18:14
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likewisekergoth: -C on menuconfig does not work for 1.8.x: ERROR: Task do_menuconfig is marked nostamp, cannot invalidate this task18:18
kergothno, that's not what i said18:19
kergoth-c menuconfig, then -C configure18:20
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kergothtainting menuconfig won't do anything, you need to taint a task that's actually run normally so tasks after it get re-run18:20
kergoththere are no tasks after menuconfig18:20
likewisekergoth: ok. My confusion is I  thought "configure" configures the kernel purely from the metadata, not from anything in the work directories.  So tainting/running configure after menuconfig didn't make sense to me. (It still doesn't, until I understand the underlying mechanisms.)18:23
kergothafaik configure writes .config from defconfig if it's not there already and then runs make oldconfig from that, but it varies slightly from one kernel to the next18:24
kergothif configure overwrites your changes for this kernel, you could presumably just taint compile instead18:24
likewisekergoth: yes, that's with non-Yocto'ized-kernels. That's actually what I am used to. The Yocto config fragment systems seems pretty convoluted though.18:25
kergothits true, the linux-yocto build process is definitely complex and I don't know it well, I'm sure others in here could be more helpful with those specifically18:25
kergothstill the menuconfig to test changes process should work just fine with it18:26
likewisekergoth: thanks for helping out18:26
kergothno worries, good luck :)18:26
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kergothHmm, wonder why buildhistory-diff doesn't diff the pre/post inst/rm scripts rather than showing hte before / after values18:50
kergothi htink a diff would be more readable than a hundred lines of before and after18:50
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karobarI'm getting 'Computing transaction...error: Can't package provides'. Where is the version number for this .so determined, because i have a version 54 in my sysroot?19:37
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gnavaHas anyone had issues with Ubuntu 14 trusty's version of matchbox-keyboard showing up very small?20:10
gnavaI'm running a 64-bit OS.20:11
gnavaIt's so tiny.20:11
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gnavaLook at how small it appears:
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kergothI'm thinking we should rework the color handling a bit. Rather than only enabling color on ttys, instead explicitly filter out color codes on fds that aren't ttys20:41
kergoththen we could add color to messages in more places than just the prefix added in knotty20:41
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kergothi.e. the new recipe+task and filename prefixing could be colored for easier visual parsing, rather than only coloring NOTE/ERROR/etc20:42
gnavaMy issue appears to be a bug, I've reported it here:
karobaranybody have an idea why I would be getting 'computing transaction...error'...'no package provides' from running smart during a do_rootfs?20:49
karobarI'm trying to make an oracle jdk 8 recipe20:50
JEEBthat sounds like something is either depending on libav or ffmpeg's library and it's not in the build20:54
JEEBor that version of it, specifically20:54
JEEB(unfortunately the library API versions have nothing to do with actual release versions of either, unless you have a very good memory of which API version got released where)20:55
JEEBbut yeah, see if you have FFmpeg or Libav in your build, and if yes which API versions of libraries it provides20:56
JEEBnot sure why it would be a dependency of JDK, though :P20:56
JEEBsince I'm pretty sure nothing in it should depend on libav*20:56
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Xzhi there20:58
JEEB(thus I recommend seeing yuor dependency chain in general)20:58
Xzweird thing - I'm using some old Yocto branch and when I try to build mpfr it fails to apply a patch20:58
Xzthat's where patch sits20:59
Xzbut Yocto says patch doesn't exist there and it searches directories like poky/meta/recipes-support/mpfr/mpfr-3.1.1/x86 etc.21:00
Xzany idea why the patch is not getting found?21:00
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karobarJEEB: thanks, i'll take another look. I'm using a bunch of .inc files from meta-oracle-java which I think's my problem21:01
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karobarand I have a in my sysroot's /usr/lib, which is frustrating21:02
Xzit actually searches directory where that patch is stored also!21:03
Xzand still no luck21:03
karobarerr .54 rather21:03
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neverpanickarobar: happen to have any prebuilt binaries or packages that were not rebuilt against
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kergothokay, this was amusing. i accidentally added commercial to LICENSE_FLAGS instead of LICENSE_FLAGS_WHITELIST in local.conf, which marked every recipe as commercial, making no recipes anywhere buildable21:27
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wyrmNote to self: don't do that.21:46
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-YoctoAutoBuilder- build #468 of nightly-oe-selftest is complete: Success [build successful] Build details are at
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kergothpossibly should add a sanity check for that.. that's a var that only really has meaning in recipe context22:08
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khemkergoth: thats interesting caveat22:31
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